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Yes. I'd like to welcome you to the third evening lecture on Eastern Europe and the world in transition sponsored by the Institute World Affairs. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that the speaker tomorrow evening will be Paul Sweezy. And the title of this lecture is \"The Future of Capitalism\" at 8:00 PM in the same room right here on this room. While the first two evening lectures, in the series is focused on political and economic changes in Eastern Europe. This evening's speaker will examine the role of culture specifically theater within the context of significant political and economic revolutions which have been occurring in Eastern Europe. Indeed, there has been an acute awareness and often painful awareness of the relationship between culture and politics in Eastern Europe. Culture has played a major role in the self-definition and self representation of Eastern European nations during the past 40 years. Unlike the West where culture and politics were often perceived as separate spheres which like religion and politics, should not or could not mix. Socialists models, positive. The inextricable links between cultural productions and the sociopolitical context. Perhaps it is not appropriate on this election night that our speaker will address the role of the arts within the political context, a topic which has recently received great interest and attention in the United States. Phillip Groom has directed the Polish premiers of Elegy for a lady and some kind of wealth story by Arthur Miller. Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean by Ed Graczyk's. Serenading Louie by Lanford Wilson and true West by Sam shepherd. And in addition to translating plays from Polish English into Polish. He has also translated works by France Cafca, Coastal Hine, he's German writer. Coastal Hine and Ingabo Backman. He is currently a lecturer in performing arts at Washington university in Saint Louis. Will you please welcome Philip Berne.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Thank you Mark for taking this opportunity and inviting me. And I hope you're good for bustle up hub today. 44 years ago, and three hundred miles South here, Winston Churchill delivered a speech. From Stettin in the Baltic. He said, , an iron curtain has descended across the continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Central and Eastern Europe. And he proceeded to list all those capitals. The faculties that Stettin or Stethin, is not on Baltic Sea. Isn't England Port built on blocks, overlooking the river old draft or older which flows into the Baltic on 40 miles to the North near a town Apple Tinuista and then pour the waters, Sinusoidal. Surviving Churchill used Shinousta. Maybe it was a matter of science. Stretching is about several times as large as sea Houston. But the ladder isn't just a fishing hammer. It's during the war it played a native role is to make a military objective. And to this day it serves as an important clearing dock for Polish trade. Perhaps it was a matter of rhetorical stock. Few politicians that devoted as much time and energy their speeches as to deter. Oratory was his art. And he was acutely aware of the words he used, the Southern you do have these, the rhythms and the rhymes. Stetson in the Baltic simply sounds better. He probably couldn't even pronounce Sino Huston. And in 1926, the German Spino Nunda that would a graded on Anglo-American years in more ways than one. But whether his reasons were political or demographic. Steting was unquestionably a convenient choice, both metrically and geometrically. And in the end, it really didn't matter. The iron curtain soon apart capital letters and began to define the borders of Soviet, Germany and Europe. He imagined, but nevertheless very real line dividing Europe and the whole planet into East and West. The fact that church implements this division was in immaterial. A new European tragedy could indeed begin at disturb with reason. Either plays into my field, Iron curtain has another meaning only without capital letters. Theaters everywhere subject to very strict fire regulations. In addition to the alarms and extinguishers many municipalities are barriers which prevented flames from escaping into the house. Some theaters, particularly in east and central Europe are equipped with metal Perkins which drop them in fires detect but they don't always work. A few years ago, I was in Warsaw when something happened that seemed to pre-state much of the change we have witnessed in the last several months. Fire broke out in the national theater. The barrier did not function properly and the theater was destroyed. I think that Iron melted. In any case there were the usual suspects. The theater's artistic director was a member of the party and consequently had very few admirers. So rumors spread as quickly as the fire stuff. Some claimed it was minor arsenal. Others maintained, it was a worker who'd been sacked because he was with solidarity. Also others, were convinced that it was obvious provocation of the work of the secret police. Maybe someone was drunk, maybe it was just a careless error. A commission was formed to investigate but I'm not sure what they finally concluded. I think it was carelessness. Anyway, the theater had to close. And not just the new theater because of the 20 odd state sponsored theaters in Warsaw. It was one of the largest. It was also one of the most important symbol of Polish dramatic achievement. In front of the theater stands a statue of Wojciech Boguslawski, known as the father of the Polish stage. Now looking a little worse for the wear after being so specific. The national theater itself traces its origins to the 18th century. And this particular building aged to the early 18 hundreds. The theater witnessed all the forest during the occupation. And like most of the city dusty trials were theater square listen to people be destroyed in the aftermath of the war. After the war, the new Polish government led by the communist Polish United Workers party created a Ministry of Culture and Art and designated funds to rebuild that theater and other theaters throughout the people's Republic. But unlike many States funds for theaters that enjoy certain autonomy, the national theater was placed under the direct supervision of the Ministry of Culture. That's the government in the form of the ministry appoints its head. The theater's first artistic directors were fairly prominent artists including Krzysztof Warlikowski and Erwin Axer. The Roman Director Kazimierz Dejmek took over in 1962. He was still in charge in 1968. In fact, it was Dejmek's production of the post classic forefathers eve which sparked the student riots that same year. Those riots in turn led to the government's brutal intervention, a wave antisemitism and the forced immigration of thousands of . Dejmek himself had little to do with any of these. But he was purged anyway, and the theater passed into the hands of Adam Mickiewicz. Mickiewicz ultimately overcame, the initial resentment of the artistic community and enjoyed fairly popular tenure. Until he too was dismissed this time by the Jaruzelski government which had seized power in December, 1981 illegally and in defiance of solidarity's hard one to be thanks to the courts. It was then after martial art had been declared that the party member I mentioned before became director of national theater. During this time those actors and directors participated in a boycott directly against the new regime. Then marshal art was lifted, boycott slowly ended and actors began entering to work. Except the majority of the artistic community continued to ostracize certain theaters, answered the directors. This was the case of the national theater. And this is what fed the flames of rumor. This isn't to confuse you with all these dates and possible names. But the fact of the matter is that this like everything else, all the events of 1989, have to be understood in context. And the context in Poland and Eastern Europe in general always involves history and faith. And history and faith are often synonymous. Well, let's return to the National Theater. The fire played a role because it was a strato. Just like day makes night in the 68 production at forefathers eve, was credited with the design not far from the director's plan. This is a typical phenomenon in that part of the world. A few years back, it was just another example. This time I was watching a stage version of a marriage of FICO. One of the acts that aligned which became the words he wonders about. On Polish you can say this in various ways the original translator used the Polish words ownership too loud. The accurate chose a synonymous verb, ownership by lens. Which of course sounds like led by lens and immediately sent heater throughout the house. But Beaumarchais was not writing about Poland, and this particular director had made no attempt to link the play to solidarity. So the illusion was really just a gimmick. A political gimmick, good for a cheap laugh. That's how politicized the theater there is or was. But now that was not so cheap. In fact, there is prices of products and services have finally come into check. Inflation of humorous goods continues on a bay. This is not because demand is to exceed supply. Humor has always sustained people in times of oppression and East Central Europe, possesses tremendous resources of Irony, parody and satire as literature shows. In fact, I think that Andre the dress who'll be speaking here soon has secured that kind of humor first hand lately. In announcing the old days people's republics it was easy for the people to divide their local world with us. And they were the target for satire, labor and power. They lacked legitimacy, put a boundary in competence. They used force to preserve their position and created 11 lies to justify their passions. But reality gave a lie to their jarring. And the truth expressed by many artists who are too threatening or too embarrassing or both. So they reacted defensively. They sense of place and books hanging and even music. They outlawed any art, which stated the obvious fact that the improvement was new. And now they are making their exits and former sensors are looking for new employment. Unfortunately, this is not the end of censorship. Even in the United States and perhaps especially here the issue of government control is not remote. As we see with the controversy surrounding the national downfall of the arts. That the different states have connected sponsorship is to censorship. Especially in the sponsor of the state. And socialist countries the sponsor was always the state. But their sponsorship was intolerable. The sponsorship of the arts, was far more generous than our own generous. It enabled theaters to stage gigantic productions and many artistic directors initiated enormous products without regard to cost. The subsidy supported large athlete ensembles, and even larger typically inefficient bureaucracy. Actors, directors and designers receive salaries comparable with other professions, comparably low salaries but that they were comparable with us. Can you imagine that here? There's no question that the socialist States have been generous or even wasteful in their sponsorship. At the same time their censorship has been tolerably severe. Some regimes more than others, but all have been arguably intolerable. The patient States are by no means patients sings. Now the market is replacing the government as chief censor and the arts are in danger. Subsidies must be caped. In worse more so there's a new minister of culture a well-known theater director who had been persecuted by the old regime. It is typically ironic that she must not preside over what essentially is a ministry dismembered. Freedom enterprise, gone down the drain increased prosperity. Your artificially constructed and poorly planned economies of the socialist governments were literally and figuratively bankrupt. But to date the Prius market has been the illegal ones. So-called Black Market. And Eastern enterprise would have to pass through several shades of gray even to approach our Western markets. Right now however, a form of looping capitalize and predominates for three competes with the need and the access to opportunity is grossly unfair. You've had some similar stages long ago. Some theaters have already shut down. Others are reacting as best they can. I know actors have recently performed for no pay just to save their theater from immediate closure. One stage the war cell known person Mary Ellen Garth productions is currently offering a type of dinner theater for participants pay or 100 thousands Zloties. It's about 10,000 to see a performance and to meet with actors and then have a meal on the show. Until recently tickets to that same theater went for a few hundred Zloties. Which was about hundreds of the same . Even now most of the performances only cost a few thousand. Some theaters look to the NACY businesses for support. In the best of all possible capitalists worlds or enterprise prospers and all citizens enjoy ample free time and discretionary income. This is the ideal solution. But even here in the United States for business and the arts prime benefactor, the extent of patronage depends on profits, tax schedules and market wins. It's hard to imagine how such a dependency could begin to function would have that where businesses are much more vulnerable and unfortunate enough to market. But the idea is there and playbills are now showing fewer and fewer essays and more and more analysts. It's not hard. I try to do some of myself and of all places. The managing director of the local theater is a very good example of when your conference. More immediately budget funds for a poster. So being good nurse, what I called the local distributor at Pepsi Cola and ask for some funds, is it too late? That line that they promised in the future they could help out. The idea never occurred to date. The back impresser. Actors now I'm in line of scratch more than that. They sell their services to special groups. Private children's shows are often more profitable than more ambitious productions of their own so-called mother theaters. A friend of mine lives a good example. From 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM, he rehearsals in this theater. Then he rushes to the radio for a quick report. Then some ID. Then by four O'clock he takes a couple of TV studios, where he works until nine or 10 PM. And then there is another taxi at home because he has a phone commitment with . Another friend who directs plays who recently named artistic director for a small stage without a regular on song. He says it's difficult to get actors to commit to a show. And if they do sign one, then they feel low remorse at breaking their contract. If something more lucrative to come their way. And my friend came to sympathize with a third friend who decamped. And a forth, who worse of has a letter hanging in their kitchen signed by the artistic director of a theater. In his letter, he regrets. He doesn't see any place for her special talents in the coming season. Next to the letter there's a plaque that she once received in France. The grand prize for acting presentative can. He's one of two Polish actresses to have ever received. A national laid off. This woman is one of the best actresses in the country. With her director really doesn't need because for his new season, he has chosen plays with do not require an actress of her caliber. In other words, my theme this new season sadly luck any ambition. This is what I mean by Mark Censor. It will affect theaters all over East and Central Europe, but to varying degrees according to the screen for the local economy and the link of theatrical condition. I mentioned how theaters in Poland are refusing cuts. Things are a little better than what's now the Eastern part of Germany. There, the general bile now on your way. Will ultimately include the arts. Some theaters would be converted into department stores but others will receive the same support that the federal Republic has always provided. This Western German model includes having municipal days. So that almost every large town sustains a professional theater and major city support centers. Local and national funding also support a host of museums and other artistic endeavors. And while the actual percentage of federal spending may not equal with the socialist States once boasted management is unquestionably more efficient than it was in the German democratic Republic. And the new government will certainly continuing to be more generous in Hungary and the United States. In Hungary, the theater has always been a little more less politicized than in Poland and Czech Republic. It takes excuse from Budapest. And Budapest has never really lost its focus on Vienna. Theater entertainment would like to dominate they're subject to all the dangerous of the market. In a market that's been developing in Hungary longer than any other eastern nations. But the most curious case of all is Czechoslovakia. One of the most heavily sensitive nation has now elected the playwright President. The so-called velvet revolution to the problems directly from a theater to the famous magic land. Here, there is no West Czechoslovakia to absorb the costs. Yet the new government will have to find a way to continue to support the arts. People have to introduce sponsorship without censorship. And it has to do because that is its moral platform. In his essay entitled \"The Power Of The Powerless.\" That's the problem analyze the ossification of ideology and the socialist States and the emergence of an utterly corrupt host hotel currencies. He described the demoralization of the old system to show how people are constantly and consistently forced to live within the lie. His analysis was correct. And the regimes in Eastern Europe all collapse because they were spiritually more advanced. With the exception of Romania. They also come with not the physical violence but the moral forums. People resisted the lie, driven by an innate gearing for the truth and the desire to meet gain control of their own responsibility. In his first new year's address as President Pablo discussed that responsibility. And he made a point of sharing responsibility for the system that he himself has so long protested. Because all of us, he said everyone used the totalitarian system and accepted it as an immutable path. And thereby actually helped keep it going. None of us are only as victims. We are all also responsible for it. Russ Kali was another artist from Poland here who became President. The history of the 20th century has endowed his writing with a certain disturbing clairvoyance. And even as most personal lines that acquired monumental significance. And he once wrote, \"a lie was rape, and we shared in the telling him.\" Leave in West and share you're life with the East. We have helped restrict the truth. Not always politically, often not even consciously, but in other more subtle ways. For instance, financial. Why so few Western plays make it onstage behind the iron curtain. The coming reception holes that they were out. But the fact is in many Western agents, wouldn't hear it being paid in his blogs or forums or anything but the hardest occurrence. Of course there were those made anonymous, but in my attempts to stage American replays abroad, I often heard things like why should we get them in? Or those people are always trying to get something for nothing. One case I ended up paying a little bit myself and the cultural attache, our embassy in Warsaw, we made up. And these were not political sanctions. They were not decisions designed to achieve concrete diplomatic goals. They were not like the embargoes occasionally imposed on the Soviet Union or South Africa. They were private responses to an appeal for help. And their refusal generally came from utter ignorance of the situation. What's worse from a lack of any desire to understand. This Blissful ignorance was part of the lie. Just as it was convenient for church with the place that steadily in the Baltic. It was convenient for us to draw the iron curtain shop and think in terms of East and West, or really just in terms of West. The remains mean for us to relegate most of humanity some third world. An artists like Pablo are cautioning us. They're calling on us to recognize the truth, the whole truth, as equally as we've recognized the new government, of which he is now a President. Last February he told our Congress, we too can offer something to you our experience and the knowledge that has come from. The specific experience I'm talking about has given me one great certainty. Consciousness precedes being and not the other way around as Marxists claim. For this reason the salvation of this human world lies nowhere else than in the human heart, in the human power to reflect in human meekness and in human responsibility. Pablo warned that we are approaching a tasktrophy, psychological, social, demographic, or a general breakdown in civilization. Unless we experience a global revolution in the sphere of human consciousness. Baseball Prime, a German writer once from East Berlin, put them a little differently. If we don't succeed, you said a year ago we will be devoured by McDonald's. Artists like Iron and Pablo are not powerful because they have received thousands of dollars in grants. They're not powerful because the media has molded their image into a face of this common denominator with so-called broad mass of fear. They are powerful because they have been unafraid to speak the truth. And events of the past months that given tangible credibility to such a fine rhetorical effect. In Eastern and Central Europe. Truth is no longer in fine arts. And the artists are no longer sensible. But this does not mean that we should stop being relieved. From Spino Winchester to Timon Schwab and all the way to aims. The East has returned to the part of Europe, and we should start listening with pulse. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Any questions on that topic? Anthony.\r\n\r\n- For the future of theater and in Eastern and Western Europe Do you see really good prospects right now?\r\n\r\n- Asking for greener prospects?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Like I said, it depends on the region, but most places, theaters are being drastically cut. I've been talking about Romania, you can only imagine what it's like there. And it's very good. And also the role of the text is different. A play that made sense even played by Hobble, made sense because they had a certain resonance, a moral resonance when they were in opposition to something now they've lost that resonance in a way. Literally, his theater has moved out of the theater. So he's an African American stage now. And core of the theater mean new writing. Not all East German writers. Because of all the specialists in East German literature. So is the\r\n\r\n- To follow up, what do you think can be learned as far as you know, constructing?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think Howard's point is, it's not necessarily a question of slicing the budgetary pie but it's a question of how you approach the problem that is to say theater has an inherent value in itself. Arts are inherently valuable to civilization and much more valuable than missiles. Sorry, pardon me how? And I think that by listening to what some of these countries have gone through, and he said, listen to us, we've had this experience. Conscious of PC being, we have to think the way you think. This means, he's calling for no less than, what change the way we thinking, the way we look at the world and realize that we drink coffee in the morning, realize where that coffee comes from. So it's not something that can be here across the national endowment for the arts has a very small budget. And in the debates that surround it and already the question is on the front page. But what tends to ship is only the tip of the iceberg.\r\n\r\n- Before Pablo was chosen to be president, there was a great deal of coverage on radio, about people in check as the block. They said, oh, hell no. He understands he's a fly, right? And he would never want to be president. And then of course the change. And I wonder what's your perception of Pablo as a president is?\r\n\r\n- So far. And it's so hard to say I have a very good perception of him. He did not want to take it, but then he talks about responsibility. And I think that he saw it as his responsibility. He also talks about the responsibility of people over there in general, to change the way they have been acting. And he completely in his new address, he referred to his predecessor, who was the first President of newly independent checklists with the first war. And he quoted as a matter of fact and mostly it was developing a program I guess you'd call it small scale work. And this is designed to build up a local decentralized economy. There's very big political plan or economic plan. And Pablo was supporting this idea. Here, we time to some of what was said by Dina Johnston in view of decentralization. These economies were all very qualified. And Pablo sees that's it's his responsibility to help implement a policy, which has remained theoretical. If he can help with that, you've been able to do it. That's how I perceive him. He's also a let up on the board borders easy with Justin. He won't pay away. Any other question?\r\n\r\n- What direction do you see directors taking in terms of the texts that select, you mentioned that the directors choosing different types of texts there was a weird there Canada and the East juicy, either new Canon developing or do you think there will be dependency towards commercial production?\r\n\r\n- I think there's a tendency to direct more commercial productions. And right now that also means a certain political backlash. You can see a number of performances of plays that were banned until recently. And these plays are generally not very good either. But I mentioned that I saw production of darkness at noon at a patient at darkness at noon. And I was bored on my list. 'Cause they kept on doing this thing, knocking on the wall. And they did this in the theater. I thought it was darkness at noon. It had been a big book, but it was very... But then at one point, but it's now no longer done, and you know, people we're glad that it ended early. You can see that. You can see there are plays now opening. I think President Neil Simon would be in Warsaw sooner. There's Mary Shelley already there. I'm not gonna lie Andrew Lloyd Weather. Oh, the music was not there. There's different things you run into the... My feeling is that the American musical has always had his counterpart in the European. That the operetta is a slightly different format. For instance, in Hungary that format is a much more dominant form. And so the Hungarian theater is closer to the Austrian theater and there's a certain, record cam that is cool in here there's a Hungarian pastries. And this is particular theater is the smear theater but places I told them to Czechoslovakia the theater was very politicized and often not so cool. And they will have to evolve new artists will have to evolve their work and it will be the trial of the artists to see how they do it. But at the moment, a lot of people are doing either these political things that have been banned or are doing dinner as the theater has been banned.\r\n\r\n- Do you think that as the Eastern nations become more and more candidates towards capitalism, that the dissenting artists will become more and more like dissenting artists did and\r\n\r\n- Think they were very far sighted artists according to Christopher Higgins. Richard Russo is a good example. There're many far sighted artists there. And I think Pablo is also saying, you know understand that we don't necessarily want McDonald's. And I think that there are dissenting artists are dissentive by nature. And I think it's not to say they are destructively critical but I think their nature is to probe examine and consequently dissent where to dissent is warranted. So it is not, that dissent will be warranted as these nation become Capitalism to Western Capitalism as you say. Then I think, they will continue to do this. Some of them will be made to commodities. And we were assessing both of you. Someone who was originally from West then he decided to move to the East but was kicked out to the East. I mean, what's in both of their minds now? And he must have gone through so many levels of self agony that so...\r\n\r\n- So I don't think that yeah, such names, but oh, why is it bad? We here in the West. Well, especially in this part of the United States have seen so few productions of plays like Eastern Europeans or the West. I don't know 10, 15 years say and might be worthwhile a long as we reactivity.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, very good question. The fact of the matter is that most theaters have the capacity to produce such a play are afraid of their creative risk. I'm in this, I suffer from this. I'm going to the theater. I say, hey, I'd like to do something back to David from his age. And they say, who? And I say, it does not really it's for them to know, but I say would you read this? And they say, oh sure. And there's no way that they're going to do it because they're subscribership. They are afraid their subscribership will sort of dwindle. I think they're making the stage because what they end up doing is citing certain sociological reasons trying to please as part of the populace and the theater was never designed to please everyone. And so they're sort of misguided in my opinion. But they're basically afraid to take the risks. They don't know about the tradition. Unfortunately the United States is not known for tradition to examining other cultures and accepting other cultures as it is. There's a strong part of anti intellectualism in this country that is still invisible in certain ways.\r\n\r\n- Why are you going back?\r\n\r\n- Why I'm going back? Well, I'm going back, that's my worse. But pardon me 'cause I can't do this regardless I've got something to do. On the other hand, ill be able to pull, you want to still bury each other. So everyone seems to do it. But no, I'm not planning to go back as much. I'm planning to be a bachelor actually. And then that's part of the Reece thing. Some of my products that fall through because it's now a theater . As it is, the theaters have been working. They will continue to receive the state subsidies. So in a way I'm lucky for been working with Denise Tyrone theater it's very difficult and they they're also going to have to change their rehearsal process. We used to be able to rehearse for months and that's going to shrink. Any other question?\r\n\r\n- Do you think that the theater in the former German Democratic Republic would take a different track after the reunification because the German support a theater and then the arts which is quite substantial that these directors in East, East Germany, and former East Germany will have then different opportunities continue performing well.\r\n\r\n- I think that to some extent, as I say, I think it will in will be in better shape than the other countries but the Eastern part of Germany will also have to cut back and there'll be some directors who will try and move West and they won't have an easy time but just because they're what they're used to doing is different or they're talking about, how the theater academies and the general production in the East ended more towards the classical or the stylized towards acting which is an older European model. But it's not, does not trend in the West. So that some of these people coming from the West. and they'll start becoming much more gentle in the West. And they'll say, you can't act like that. I mean, you know, we're doing this now. And so they won't give it. They all won't give a chance. So there'll be a mix. Nonetheless, there will be some of that. Sure, and I think that certain directors there are very interested in that. There are people like and kind of new there's texts performed in the East and the West DDR state. And we're two completely different productions. And these two different productions and different statements different reviews interpreted the same text and completely different. That'd be amazing.\r\n\r\n- So bold to be willing, to offer some comments about other artists in the theater music.\r\n\r\n- Music is curious, depends on what type of music. Again, the East have very strong classical programs for instance, Hungry have very strong Baroque music groups. And as a matter of fact, that been exchanged between Hungarian roots and Western roots for a long time. And he pulled up that as he has been traveling around as the Santa Fe opera did it. And Oprah was in American for a couple of years back and he has been able to come to the center for a long time. He's been, can be sometimes conductors on would work. There are another composer in Poland. So there will be some of the same elements that we should mark, I think there'll be some exchange. Some of the festival artists will have more access to the West but probably there will be less classical production. And there would be more influenced American English popular music. I knew one of the few blues players in Warsaw and you'll probably find himself competition. Polis jazz that developed quite a bit at one point. And I think now they won't be able to travel. So it's a real mix. As far as music goes, the Opera near the state funded opera some Opera houses were closed because they weren't that good and do be more importing performance. Whereas I saw more, so say free performances in the same building public theater. I'm sure that in the future I reviewed seven or eight. Does that answer your questions?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Now you can talk about thinking to everyone. You might say, all right, galleries going to close.\r\n\r\n- I think private galleries will open, I think. The museum of linen will flow back to the dilemma. Just curious. So none of the museum that I actually know has closed. And I know a few private galleries that have opened. A friend was trying to convey Polish work to London, you said. If this will happen quite a bit. I think the work of Eastern artists will appear in Western galleries more than the past. Because there's still going to be a lot easier to sell to East here for less than the West. And people in East aren't going to have money to buy Western work. That's the general phenomena. So it'd be somewhat to go. I don't wanna use words like funder, but it wasn't being, it would be a more of a magnet.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- One thing I don't get in the context of the discussions we've had this week. It seems like we've had a wonderful uprising so to speak and democratic movements season to societies. But it seems like now all the pictures being painted are ones that you know, kind of a strategy and disruption, a ponder. And maybe what's being built, you know?\r\n\r\n- Well, one of the, you raised several issues. One thing I would ask is why is it that you have the impression that it's a wonderful democratic And the euphoria that television viewers here witnessed in 1989 with only park picture, a concrete example which has been used by some journalists when the Berlin wall collapsed all of champagne what was there the next day lots of broken glass and the sticky stop. The news didn't show that. They showed the moment before it was political before but the economy remains bleak and the economic prospects are similarly bleak and the daily lives, remain little chains, where we still stand in line for certain items and still have to peel and deal. And so I think part of the reason is that our perception is limited. As far as building something what's being built at depends on where in Poland solidarity was batting against the wall for so long. And finally it came down, but the people are jaded. And now it's a question of finding the drink and then where would we begin to build something. And Czechoslovakia it would be slightly easier in some ways but there are so many things that, where do you start? And that's what house has you start here? And you start by changing the way you work. I used to have problems. and say the first one have a stage manager. 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