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Susan asked me, what she should say in the introduction. I said just above all be brief. And she did reasonably well. Thank you. When we talk about El Salvador and we're talking about a place where the United States expended more money, put more guns, developed more military doctrines than any place since Vietnam, with approximately the same result. Now in order to understand El Salvador, what I'll try to do is tell you how El Salvador used to be. And then go quickly through the war and tell you what the outcome was. And then talk about what, whether it'll work or not. And then we can have a dialogue. This shouldn't take more than 20 minutes or so. El Salvador I divide up, pre-war El Salvador into four actors, the rich, the poor, the military and the church. Primarily the Catholic church but all the main line churches are represented and have played a positive role. Traditionally, El Salvador was run, controlled by the rich for their benefit. And it was, they exercised their control through the military. And the role of the churches, the church was to counsel the poor to wait for their reward the next time around focus on the next life. And all that changed in 1968 at the Bishops Conference at Medellin. Many of you have studied the Medellin documents. But it was really when the charter of liberation theology was written in that in America. And you can sort of sum up Medellin in Pope Paul's words when he said that the poor of Latin America have a right, not only to the fruits of what society produces, food, shelter, clothing. But also the poor have a right to share in the direction of that society. And so when the church in El Salvador began to preach not class warfare, not revolution, but conciliation, dialogue, some beginnings on a just society. The poor of El Salvador, listened to these new words and they began to develop campesino organizations. They began to revivify labor unions. And out of these efforts grew the so-called mass organizations. The blockades. Where they could put 150 200,000 people onto the street, if there was a half cent rise in the price of milk. And so they developed these politics of confrontation which was after all, the only way you could do politics in El Salvador. And this aroused the worst in the right. And in some sense, it aroused the worst in the left too because instead of looking for ways to achieve modified objectives, they began to go for the total change of all society, and the Marxist rhetoric truly frightened not only the people inside El Salvador, but also the people outside of El Salvador. Now the third actor. The rich also heard this new voice of the church. But with fear and anger, and first they warned. And when the warnings had no effect, then they began to do what they have always done. They called out the security forces to literally decapitate the leadership of the poor. And this is really the origin of the revolutionary movement. Poor people trying to reclaim some power, and for their troubles being persecuted, tortured, and killed. Now the military, the fourth actor in this tragedy. Run out El Salvador openly with military presidents from 1933 until Napoleon Duarte was elected the president. Even then, the final arbiter of politics was the military. Even when Duarte was president. Because it was the military who decided with deadly force who could, and who could not participate in the civic life of the country. So it was this inter-action between and among these forces that sort of set the stage for the revolution. And remember that there was as a backdrop to this was always the United States, the looming presidents of the United States and the power of the United States projected into El Salvador. And those of us who served in Central America in the sixties and in the seventies. And these some of us sent back reports saying, \"Look, the people who stand for change are not necessarily enemies of the United States.\" Indeed, that most of them do their inspiration from our political institutions and from our political leaders. But as fast as we would send back these reports it seems that our leaders would find a new way to identify with a corrupt and brutal status quo. Until finally the poor people, particularly the young people of El Salvador, basically gave up on the United States. They could not figure out what we were doing. They understood that we had a democracy. And they could not figure out why we did not back democracy. And finally they put it down basically to kind of racism. And I'm not sure that they're entirely wrong. Then if they were entirely wrong about that, I think that one of the things that's affected US policy towards the third world in general, has been this sort of arrogant assumption that blonde, blue-eyed people are capable of democracy but somehow brown and black people are not. And that has been a theme that's really run through much of US diplomacy towards the developing world. Now, in one sense it's wrong to speak of the poor as an actor. Actually, they were as you know, Archbishop Oscar Romero used to, was called the voice of the voiceless and in one sense, and that was really an accurate description. And so what happened was that the church became a voice. And then as the mass organizations grew and then under provocation developed gorilla wings and gradually coalesced into a revolutionary movement which can call the FMLN, even though it's not quite there yet. So you had a new voice of the poor, which was the FMLN And its sort of companion, political companion. The democratic revolutionary front which was basically the non-fighting, the politicians who stood for change. And then there was the international coalition of backers here in the United States. The churches, the many different solidarity groups. And these were replicated in Europe and in Europe particularly in the Scandinavian countries. They came through with really important support funding. But that coalition, which is on the face of it. A weak, somewhat disorganized and not really totally compatible organization took on the rich of El Salvador, the military of El Salvador and the might of the world's really only super power. And we set as our objective the crushing of the Salvador and the revolutionary movement. And it's not, I mean you have to face the fact that we failed. We did not succeed. There is as a latest Rand study, points out there is a yawning chasm between our objectives and the final result. Now, then ensued 11 years of war. Where the revolutionaries really fought the military to a standstill. And it became apparent that neither side could win. A clear-cut military victory. So the negotiation, now you have to remember that, you know, everybody always talks about terrorists and freedom fighters, And there's a lot of sloppy use of words. But the real way to tell a terrorist from freedom fighter is that one, a freedom fighter only takes up arms when all other methods, political methods have failed. And then once he begins to achieve his objective by fighting, he's willing to negotiate. He or she is willing to negotiate and willing to compromise. And a terrorist really is one who doesn't do anything. Looks to violence as early as the way to solve political problems. Refuses to negotiate and looks to totally crush. The opponent looks upon force as a way, as a sort of a method of social organization by that standard. The military of the government of El Salvador falls into clearly into the terrorist category. And the FMLN and clearly falls into the freedom fighter category because it was constantly the FMLN that proposed peace negotiations and the military or the government of El Salvador rejected them under our region. But finally, the negotiations came about. And in November of last year, they signed the New York Agreement. And then completed that agreement, on December 31st and January 1st of this year. And Alvaro de Soto, the chief negotiator for the United Nations described the outcome as a negotiated revolution. And he is not wrong on that. It's an ambitious term, but it isn't, it corresponds to the reality. The treaty itself, changes the reality of El Salvador. It does not redistribute wealth. It does redistribute power. It does not redistribute power so much on the ground as it does by process. The essence of the treaty, is that the FMLN lays down at its arms and becomes a legitimate political party. The military are cut in half and in size. The security forces, the various police functions, and intelligence functions are abolished. The military is confined to the external defense of the nation. Their mandate to enforce national security is totally taken away. So they have no more legal mandate to play any role inside El Salvador. In order to the coercive power of the police is vested in a new civilian national police that is bossed by a civilian minister. And in which the FMLN will have a significant presence at all levels. So what you have is in effect, the military being totally removed from any role in internal politics. The sick-dreaded security forces abolished. And the, a new police force made up from what is really a kind of a cross section of society comes into being. Now the key question here is, will the different parties play by the rules? In effect, the left has no alternative but to play by the rules because they give up their armed capacity to continue fighting. So they have to depend on compliance. So the key question is, will the right will play by the rules? And the answer I have after a lot of study and a lot of talk, and a lot of thinking that through. I think the answers are qualified yes. I'm not confident that it will work, but I'm think it's a reasonably good bet. And the reason I think so is this. Before the war, the rich had no concept of politics whatsoever. They basically hired the military to kill anyone who tried to bring about change. And in order to give a facade of political legitimacy to this, to satisfy the United States and other other actors. They had, they permitted some political parties, but there was an official political party, called oddly enough, the Party of National Conciliation. And they in effect function as a front for the military. Now. And then under that rubric, under that set up, the military, I mean the rich totally divorced themselves from politics. No, basically no rich person ever got involved as a candidate for anything. It was sort of a dirty profession. Paid hacks, went into it. Now with the exception of people, you know, there was a Christian Democratic Party which you and I think of today as very conservative but in those days was almost a clandestine party and they were considered to be radical people who couldn't be trusted. Now, the war had a dramatic impact on the rich. What they saw was they became progressively poorer except for a certain favorite few that were in on the inside. But most rich people became poor. And most, and the military both individually and as an institution became immensely rich. The 14 families were replaced by the 15 common dentes. And the biggest, for example, the biggest bank in El Salvador today capitalized at over a hundred million dollars straight out of your pockets. And mine is the social security bank or of the armed forces. And so what the rich saw was that in military that if the war went on much longer, was going to totally control the society. And they were going to be reduced to powerlessness. Now what happened? I suppose most of us looked upon the creation of arena in 1981 as a bad development. Actually it turned out to be a wonderful development because the rich, for the first time became involved directly in politics. And they learned, how to organize politically. They learned that they could win elections with organization and with money. And so they grew up inside arena. Two competing groups, two wings. One represented by d'Aubuisson and the president vice president Marino that believed in death squads and believed in the old style repression and wanting to bring back the old days more or less as I have described them. And the new group of what you might call neoconservatives represented by president Cristiani, who basically said, \"No, this is not the way to go. We can continue to exercise political control, not by violence, but through organization, through the intelligent use of money, we can win. We can dominate the political scene. And moreover the power that we will achieve that way will be legitimate power. That is power that doesn't, that the left cannot challenge. If you go the other way they pointed out, you are really getting illegitimate power which will bring a response, a violent response from the left. And the crucial point was that Roberto Darvison at a certain point around the 86, about no, about 8788, knowing that he was under a death sentence, turned around and became and in effect joined the moderate wing of the party and lent his immense weight to a new role of sort of conciliation and working out differences politically. So what you have is a rich, people of the rich sector have really learned and met a great lesson over these 10 or 11 years. And while I don't, I think that it's very possible that they will try to cheat, that they will try to interpret the provisions of the treaty in such a way that will cause difficulties and give it an unfair advantage to them. I think all in all, things will, and they've already tried that in a couple of instances. But, that fifth act, or if you will, or that the backdrop of power is no longer the United States, it's now the United Nations. And the United Nations has an effect taken over. And now the sovereignty of El Salvador is now shared with the United nations. You can almost say that El Salvador has become a UN protectorate. There are now something like 1200 court observers and court from the United Nations called Honor South. And they in effect act as a check on and make certain that all the parties fulfill their obligations under the treaty. So what is our conclusion out of this situation? Well, my first conclusion is that, the United States lost the war, but that out of the war came at least something that has demonstrated that both the left and the right, have the capacity to change. Now the real question for all of us is, has the United States learned anything from this disaster? And you have to say that so far, the evidence is not good. In Peru today there, the United States is beginning to intervene more and more over but we began by chasing narcotics traffickers, and we have ended up hunting down a shining path, gorillas. This thereby preventing this sixth society of Peru from coming to grips with itself and sorting out its own problems. And of course, as far as I can tell, the military of the United States are anxious to become more and more involved. And yet it is, Peru is such an intractable problem. The guerrilla movement, and I am no admirer in any way of the shining path. But you have to recognize that this guerrilla movement has emerged from the soil of Peru and can no way be considered to be have any kind of foreign roots. And so it's really up to the Peruvians to work this thing out themselves. So in a place where we should be extremely. We should show ex-restraint. We are not showing restraint. We are enthusiastically again, involving ourselves in a situation that we don't understand. And then we have a situation like Haiti, where the United States, when the military and the rich people of Haiti over through president Aristide, the first freely elected president in the history of Haiti, after only seven months in office, the United States acted with wonderful rhetoric. All the things we did and said, I mean all the things that we said were wonderful. And, but yet we have showed too much restraint at a time when we should have been bold because the international community had voted in effect to almost a blank check to itself. And in the organization of American States to restore the legitimate government of Haiti. And yet what we are doing is permitting these gangsters who have taken over in Haiti to consolidate their power. And we are looking totally impotent when the solution to the problem is really not difficult and it would not require a force. So, to conclude, in El Salvador, we are now seeing the end of one of the most disgraceful chapters of American diplomacy. To Alexander Haig, then secretary of State and to President Reagan and William Casey and those people, going in through El Salvador, reserve the international equivalent of breaking the air controllers strike. It was a demonstration project where they were going to go in and a few months wrap up this funny little war in this funny little country. And demonstrate the power of the United States and the ability that it had to crush revolutions. Well, as we all know, it took 12 years, 75,000 dead people, a million refugees in this country, and 7 billion or so dollars to prize us loose from this delusion. And the primary failure, I would put down first to the Pentagon and it's belief, it's faith, I guess is a better word. And in low intensity conflict, which the Rand study, the most recent Rand study which I recommend to any sort of real close students of El Salvador. It's a recent study by Benjamin Schwartz where he just concludes that LIC, the low intensity conflict, simply does not work. And the CIA who under the guidance of William Casey, should have, what they should have done was by objective and now analysis give political leaders the rationale for getting out of El Salvador under some kind of negotiations. Instead, the CIA permitted in the intelligence function to be put at the service of policy, they distorted their reports and they provided the rationale for further involvement. So as you think, as students of foreign policy. As you think of the future challenges coming down and then in the rest of the century and beyond, keep in mind the problem that the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency absorbs 95 cents of every dollar that we spend on foreign policy. And if you look at the future and analyze what the problems are that are facing us in the foreign policy field, just tick them off. You know, you've got population explosions. You've got shifts of populations from south to north. You've got environmental degradation. You've got the control of nuclear weapons. We could go on. Now what do all these problems have in common? First is thing that they have in common. Is it the, that military power has no relevance to working out any of these problems, nor does covert activity have any relevance whatsoever. What these problems demand, our coalition diplomacy, working through international organization trying to address these problems as a community rather than going at it alone. But you watch how desperately the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency try to hang on to that disproportionate share of the foreign policy dollar and how, if we are not very alert, you will find that we are addressing the problems of tomorrow with the tools of yesterday. Thank you very much. I'll be glad to take any questions that anyone has for as long as you have. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Roberto D'Aubuisson is still .\r\n\r\n- Well he died. Roberto D'Aubuisson died about a month and a half ago. Yeah, he, it was a strange, strange, and you know, US America was undoubtedly responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. Including one senior Oscar Romero. And a man who really under in any civilized society should have been excluded from politics. And yet in the end, one has to admit that he played a positive role because as the the darling of the violent right, when he in effect converted to a more moderate stamps there was no one who could have the right to call him soft. And so he really and this is not some perception of a foreigner, you know, who doesn't know. Yeah, he and I were sort of, you know, truly enemies. I mean, I hung this phrase around his neck of a psychopathic killer. I called him a psychopathic killer. I think every death notice that I saw of Roberto D'Aubuisson included my statement, that he was, I almost, you know, I sort of regret it on the other hand. I think it serves some purpose, but in any case Ruben Zamora whom many of you know. The Ruben Zamora is one of the truly great democratic leaders of El Salvador who had death threats on him from 1979, on whose brother David was killed by the military. And he is now the head of the so-called, Conrad Henson Democratic, the left-wing coalition. And had told me personal experiences many of them. How D'Aubuisson did play this truly positive role. And I guess it has to do with death. Impending death, concentrating your efforts or your changing your perspective. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Do you expect the disinherited to hold up political power so as to bring about a redistribution of the wealth throughout the society?\r\n\r\n- Though I expect the disinherited to form coalition to redistribute the wealth. I think that there'll be some of that. It's extremely difficult. One of the problems is that you have 5 million people in this tiny country. It's the most heavily populated country, I think in the world, but if not the one of the two or three most heavily populated countries in the world. And there's no way that say that land reform is explicitly endorsed in the peace agreement. And it's explicitly stated that in the holdings of any, any holdings over 245 hectares are illegal and must be passed to the state to redistribution. Now that'll be a good test. Some of that will take plans. But the only solution is to have two solutions for El Salvador. And that is that the well-known genius for entrepreneurial genius of the rich and the tremendous capacity of the poor for hard work can be and it should have turned El Salvador into sort of the first tiger of Central America. Now there's some good news on this. I mean, you know, one of the things I think that President Bush has done is because we were broke and didn't have any money to give to Latin America. We put to this sort of North American free trade agreement and the idea ultimately, a hemisphere wide free trade agreement. And that has had the virtue, just the talking in that way of getting the various governments getting rid of state-owned enterprises and a lot of the things that really did nothing except favor a few rich and influential people who in effect had government sponsored monopolies. And I went to Mexico for signing of the Salvadoran peace treaty which is really quite inspiring thing to see former enemies embracing that kind of thing. But the sense of confidence in the future of Mexico was palpable with the taxi drivers, and the waiters, and the people you talk to on the streets. And they are economically better off today than they have ever been. And you can sense this movement inside. One of my taxi, one of the taxi drivers returned from Los Angeles because things were better here and there in Mexico. So there's a certain surge. And what you kind of see in Central America is, central America is going to become Mexico's Mexico. That is Mexico is gonna start putting into Central America, the sort of these maquilas these plants with cheap labor that turn out to exploit, no question they exploit people and all that. But Central America desperately needs investment. And they'll probably have to go through this transition period. But you can sense in Central America, some beginnings of prosperity. Now what's going, the reason that this won't happen is that the military of Guatemala and the military of Honduras, look upon what has happened in El Salvador as something terrible. And the rich in Guatemala who are even if possible more reactionary than the Salvadorans used to be. Are determined to maintain the small Island of privilege and the big, the great mass of people in poverty. So it'll depend a lot on whether the United States and the world community give the kind of assistance necessary to give El Salvador a headstart. So it can serve as some kind of exemplar, or some kind of example for the rest of Central America to follow. That's a big leap and I'm just not really sure about how that will work. I think there is some chance that people are so exhausted and tired of war that they really are ready and willing to try new compromises. And that's the hope, but there's nothing certain about it. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Like recently a lot of people changing jobs in El Salvador and do you think the FMLN actually would be ready in cooperate the new police force. And what will happen to the part of the army that's basically based in the El Salvador .\r\n\r\n- All right, the question basically asks about the future of the two armies. That's an excellent question, because you know the United States government, again, demonstrating we've learned nothing is still asking for military assistance for the Salvadoran army. The last thing, the last thing we should ever do is give a nickel to the Salvadoran military. What we should do is certainly give military assistance in the sense of mustering out pay. A way of demobilizing the army, and in a sense providing a combination of the GI Bill and the 40 acres and a mule sort of thing from our own history. That would do more to help El Salvador than anything else because the young people of El Salvador have been fighting for the last 10 years. And they desperately need assistance, training, education, some stake in society. And by the way, they're correct. You know, when I was in El Salvador as ambassador, the total size of the military was about 10,000 men. When the war ended, it was 57,000 men. They claimed it was 62,000 men. And so they cut it to down 31,000 men. Why did they inflate this by 4,000? Let me explain to you. That, according to the officer Corps, there's 2200 officers in the Salvadoran army. To the Salvador and officer court, they comprise the military. The enlisted people are basically don't exist. Not they're not entities. They are brought in for a few years. I mean drafted and then left, and then let go. Non-commissioned officers are discouraged. They've probably got the lowest in effect officers do the work that non-commissioned officers do in most military. Why do they do this? Because every private pays and, or every enlisted man pays into a common fund for retirement and for other benefits. None of the enlisted men practiced 95% of them, this has been, never get a nickel. It all goes to the benefit of these 2200 men. But they are so greedy. They don't even stop with that. They create what they call phantasmas. Ghosts. And so the 4,000 extra people don't really exist. They're just names. And the monies that they go to pay them and that they pay, go directly to the officers and a divided up. And it's just simply another corrupt practice of the Salvadorian military. Now the good news is that because we now have a right wing in El Salvador, that basically believes that it can, has a decent chance of controlling El Salvador through the political process. They no longer see any real need from military. All it is is expensive to them. And so when the budgets come up, you're going to find that increasing squeeze on the military. And hopefully they will downsize to some rational level. If we had, if the United States had gotten behind the peace process in the way that we should have, we should have worked for the total abolition of the military because there's no need for a military institution in any of these Central American countries.\r\n\r\n- You have addressed one explanation that USA since Vietnam in Central America and South America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115509#t=0.0,2787.216"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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Peru,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=7.07,11.621"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and some other country's in South America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=11.621,13.293"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, the question 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intervention","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=22.06,25.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as communism served in the past?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=25.84,28.963"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it won't serve as an adequate 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best,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=41.55,44.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or they're doing the best they can with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=44.35,48.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now,`one of course, the first thing of course to realize 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effectively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=57.65,60.902"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The only way to solve the narcotics problem","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=60.902,63.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is to solve it on the demand side","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=63.48,65.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by cutting down, in a sense,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=65.76,68.163"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what you have in the narcotics trade","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=72.83,74.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the perfection of capitalism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=74.74,77.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a demand here in this 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ineffectual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=117.37,120.693"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Secondly, they are worried to death,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=121.72,125.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and properly so, about 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president.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=1275.322,1278.043"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, look,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510#t=1278.95,1279.783"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42905/file/115510/transcript/27149/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thank you for your 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Well, it won't serve as an adequate pretext, it won't last, I don't think, but it's certainly doing it's best, or they're doing the best they can with it. Now,`one of course, the first thing of course to realize is, you can't interdict narcotics, there's no way to do this effectively. The only way to solve the narcotics problem is to solve it on the demand side by cutting down, in a sense, what you have in the narcotics trade is the perfection of capitalism. There is a demand here in this country, and that demand is going to be fulfilled regardless of laws, regardless of attempts to interdict, and the only way to stop it is to cut down the demand at home. Now, to it's credit, the Pentagon has resisted becoming involved in the war on drugs. They know perfectly well, one, that they can't do it. I mean that they're going to be ineffectual. And they don't like, anymore than any other organization to be viewed as ineffectual. Secondly, they are worried to death, and properly so, about corruption. You know, Latin-American military men are no more, I mean they're not automatically corrupt, Latins are no more corrupt than Anglo-Saxons, what happens is, that in Columbia for example, they have a saying, \"plata o plomo, money or lead,\" and that's the choice that the drug dealers give the military and, you know, the military usually makes the rational choice and has no reason to expect that, I mean, I believe the American military are probably much because of their traditions, and because of the rewards that are given to them for serving well, I think that it is a military that can resist corruption much better than can the poorly paid Latin-American military. But, there's always the one in the hundred that will not resist, and I think that the Pentagon is worried sick that not only will they fail at this mission, but in the process some corruption will become public knowledge. I mean Noriega for example, in Panama, did corrupt five of six military, and had them reporting, of our military, had them reporting to him, so it has happened. The military are really used in Peru, they're going in, I testified before congress saying that we would, against involvement in Peru, saying that we would start out chasing narcotics traffickers, and we would end up chasing Shining Path guerrillas. Much to my surprise, the Pentagon spoke and said \"that's exactly what we want to do.\" And he had absolutely no bones about the fact that their primary purpose was to go in there and fight the guerrillas, and this is most discouraging because if there is one thing we should have learned, is that, that, is a futile exercise. Yes?\r\n\r\n- No, the Peace Corp once had standards, and they refused to go into Nicaragua for a long time because Somoza was there, but then under Nixon, the Peace Corp went into Nicaragua and into El Salvador. I believe in the Peace Corp and I think it was, and is a wonderful organization, and I think it's one of the best preparations for a foreign service officer, or for someone who's going into some kind of, any kind of international worker business. But, the Peace Corp is supposed to reflect the idealism of the United States, and unless you have a president that can find some drop, some iota of idealism to give to the American people, it's doubtful to me that the Peace Corp can supply that gap. So once you have an administration that can fashion, as I think John Kennedy at least tried to do in his brief time, a policy that was inspired by something other than national interest narrowly construed. If you have that, then you can have a wonderfully effective Peace Corp. If on the other hand, you have a President Nixon or a President Reagan, then what you send into these countries are people who are basically at odds with their own country, and who are not proud to be serving abroad as Americans, and their utility goes way down. So the Peace Corp can never become really a technical service agency, 90% of the idealism, you can find it among liberal arts, graduates of the colleges and universities of America, and you're probably not gonna get the kind of people that are technically qualified to change these countries, or to help change them. So I think that basically it comes down to the United States projecting a foreign policy that under that rubric that young people will feel called to serve in a variety of ways including the Peace Corp, and let's hope that that happens, but it doesn't look as though it's gonna happen too soon.\r\n\r\n- Yes?\r\n\r\n- In the near future, what do you think is gonna be the role of the United States in foreign policy and relations with Nicaragua, and Central America, in the near future?\r\n\r\n- Well unfortunately, I believe that the United States wants to forget Central America. I think United States would like to forget all about Central America. I think that it's clear to President Bush and Secretary of State Baker that the involvement of the Reagan administration in Nicaragua, and in El Salvador, was not only destructive of the countries themselves, but in the process, we broke our own laws, and I think that many people high up in this administration, including the president himself, would just assume that Central America did not retain any real currency in foreign policy because the more interest, the more focus there is on Central America, the more focus there is on illegal doings and whether the president knew about them or not. I remember that the whole Iran-Contra thing really started out, in many ways, as a way to get funds to the Contras. So I think that while we have spent untold hours, President Reagan once said that 95% of the time of his National Security Council had been spent on Central America, that's truly a shocking statistic. But as things turned out so well in the rest of the world maybe that's a recipe for successful foreign policy. But in any case , there is very, it's practically become a tradition in US foreign policy that we have any amount of money for destruction, and no money for re-building. And right now what we are doing is neglecting our responsibilities, Violeta Chamorro in Nicaragua has really done something unique in the history of Central America, she's actually lead a government that has attempted with some success to reconcile the Sandinista's and the Conservatives, and has in a sense, formed a coalition with the Sandinista's to try to bring about a more civil order in Nicaragua and were we fulfilling our responsibilities of providing the bare minimum in order to rebuild the shattered economy, she would really be a demonstration for the rest of the developed world, unfortunately, Nicaragua now has something like 60% unemployment, so the poor people of Nicaragua are identifying democracy with the worst kind of grinding inhumane poverty, and before long they'll become nostalgic for the days of Somoza if were not very careful. This has been the history of a lot of democratic movements throughout the developing world where people ultimately return, or turn back to dictatorship because they associate it with better times.\r\n\r\n- Yes?\r\n\r\n- What about Cuba, do you think their policy will change?\r\n\r\n- Well, the policy towards Cuba's, the problem with that is you see is, Cuba is not treated as foreign policy problem, it's a domestic foreign policy problem, a domestic policy problem. In the center, the policy is really made in Miami by right-wing Cubans, that it's not sufficient for them to have a peaceful transition towards democracy, which I believe there is quite a bit of evidence that Castro would exceed to, they want his head on a pike, and they want violence in the streets and they wanna restore the status quo anti. I think that it is possible that if a democrat is elected, or if President Bush is re-elected and therefore has less reasons to worry about his future electability, that it's possible because it makes all kinds of sense to change our policy. Right now we are ratcheting up the pressures on Cuba, what this does is give Castro the nationalist card to play . And so the Cuban people, even though I think most of them would like to have change, they don't want change dictated by the United States and they will fight against that kind of pressure so you're really doing is strengthening this system, but eventually it will crack, and it won't crack tomorrow or next year the way the Cubans and Miami believe it will, but probably in five years or so. Something will happen, there'll be a demonstration and blood will start, there'll be violence, and who knows where it'll all end up? If on the contrary, you took off all the restrictions, allowed commerce, allowed tourism, well, at that point Castro would be able to say, \"look, I have achieved the revolution, \"we have together achieved the revolution, \"and now the United States has changed, \"now it it is time to go into \"a new phase of the revolution,\" and he would be willing at that point, I think, to gradually introduce some kind of democratic change. But as long as we continue our present policy, we are simply going to insure a violent result and it will not end i fear, in a democratic outcome. So I'm really sick about the, we try to work on this problem, I go to Cuba frequently and I bring delegation's there and try to encourage the Cubans to ease up a little and let some of their human rights people meet more openly, but it is a, right now they are immobilized and they see Castro believes that if he changes, no matter what he does, that the United States will never ease up and so he is not about to change, so it's a really discouraging picture. Oh you had a hand up, last question, yes?\r\n\r\n- If we intervened in Haiti, would we ever get out?\r\n\r\n- If we intervened in Haiti, would we ever get out? Sure, I think so, and let me tell you why. There is I think regarding Haiti a kind of collective bad conscience around the hemisphere, almost around the world. And if there's one country where the World Bank and the Inter-American development bank and other relief agencies are ready to move in, in an important way, and give all the help possible, it's Haiti, and that was beginning to happen under Father Aristide. But, that all came to an end of course, with his overthrow. Now the international community, what their basically saying is \"look, \"restore the legitimate president \"and we can all begin again in this urgent task \"of developing Haiti in an intelligent way, \"reclaiming the environment, etc.\" I don't think if you intervened in Haiti or anyplace else on the side of an unpopular government, that's when you're trapped. That's when you're trapped, when in effect your military power is the only thing that's keeping the government in power, or the regime in power, which is basically the situation, say in, El Salvador, or was. In Haiti what you would be doing is restoring a president who is enthusiastically, wildly supported by 70% of the people and therefore the only you'd have to do is in a sense, neutralize the military of Haiti. And frankly, I went to Haiti a few times recently and I talked to General Cedras, the man who is now the leader, the practical leader of the regime and the man who consolidated the coup. And the impression I get is that if he had really understood that the United States was serious about democratic government, that they never would have gone ahead with this. But we never really gave the message to these people that there were serious penalties, they thought that this democratic stuff was just rhetoric, well you know, maybe they're right because we certainly haven't acted in an extremely, in any way that would convince them otherwise. But, this is what I'm trying to do, bring congressional delegation's down there to tell people like General Cedras, you will never be recognized, you will never get a nickel from us until President Aristide is returned, and I think gradually having some effect. So I really don't see, now I'm not advocating in any way unilateral intervention, in fact I think the ideal thing would be, if all other measures failed, to have a multilateral force with the United States was really not part of it, only in the sense of perhaps providing logistics, or the ships, but I don't see any reason for us to get bogged down in Haiti because we would be restoring a popular, legitimate, president. Okay, look, I thank you for your attention and I hope you all retain your interest in foreign affairs because there's gonna be fascinating challenges ahead. 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