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Thank you for joining us. This is a lecture sponsored by the Summer Cultural and Recreational Events funded by the government of the student body. We're very pleased tonight to have with us Mr. Leslie Gelb, the National Security correspondent for the New York Times to speak to us on Nuclear War and Nuclear Peace. Mr. Gelb is particularly qualified to address such a subject by his academic background, by his governmental service background, and also by a service in some non-governmental organizations that have dealt with this question of arms control and nuclear weapons. Mr. Gelb has held various positions within the government dating back to the mid 1960s when he served in the Office of the International Security Affairs of the Department of Defense and dealt with the questions of policy planning and arms control. In fact, he indicated to me earlier that SALT I discussions were just beginning during his last year at ISA. More recently, he has served in the Carter administration from 1977 to 1979 as Director of Political Military Affairs within the Department of State, again with the principle responsibility for dealing with questions of arms control policy. Aside from this governmental service and some additional work upon Capitol Hill with Senator Javits earlier, he has also participated in arms control activities associated with the Brookings Institute and with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. In addition to these kinds of governmental services and non-governmental services, he has also written widely outside of his newspaper responsibilities in terms of various journals, but also has had a very significant book published called The Irony of Vietnam: The System Worked in which the book that won the American Political Science Associations, Woodrow Wilson Prize for the best book in international politics in 1981. So Mr. Gelb really does have a very sound background to address the question of Nuclear War and Nuclear Peace. Mr. Gelb.\r\n\r\n- [Mr. Gelb] I've always very embarrassed being introduced because I've had nine jobs in 20 years and my mother thinks I'm a bum. I also managed to come in government at each opportune moment for a disaster, my first day being associated with the Vietnam War and the second with the SALT II Treaty that never got ratified. Subject that we're gonna talk about tonight is one that I care an awful lot about, Nuclear War and Nuclear Peace. I care a lot about it, not only because our survival really is at stake, these weapons, although they haven't been used, we can't assume be confident that they won't be used in the future. It means a lot to me, obviously for that, but just as much by virtue of the fact that this is an area where almost more so than any other foreign policy area, you have a high bologna factor. Foreign policy in and of itself is filled with bologna. Our government gets away with it in good part because people don't know much about it and they think it's beyond them. It's too complicated. It deals with parts of the world that we can't be expected to really know a great deal about. Some people kind of shrug and give up and go along. And the bologna factor is not monopolized by either the right or the left in our foreign policy debate. It's both. It really is both. And what I'm gonna ask you to do at the start of my talk is stay with me on two assumptions. One, that you really can understand this subject, that nuclear issues are in fact, less complicated that trying to understand a tax bill or a piece of welfare legislation, that it is well within your comprehensibility. And secondly, stay with me on this, on the assumption that both left and right in this debate about nuclear affairs may have led you astray. So set aside what you've come in with and just believe those two things for the next 50 minutes. I approach this subject in the spirit of the great American philosopher, Woody Allen, who said, \"We are at a crossroads down one path lies total destruction, down the other, complete annihilation and Holocaust. Let us pray that we can choose wisely.\" Why is it? Why is it that it took four years from the time really? I left the government in 1969 until 1972, before we got the first Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty, SALT I. It was a treaty and treaty and an executive agreement to be precise. It was an ABM Treaty, an Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty that said each side could keep the Anti-Ballistic Missile sites it had developed up to that point, but no further. It was an executive agreement that said each side could have as many missiles as they had deployed up to that point but no more, but that could do anything else. Why was it that it took so long to allow each side to do what they were already doing? Why did it take four years? Why did it take another four years before Gerald Ford was on the verge of signing a SALT II Treaty that would have reduced these numbers very marginally? Nothing more. And why did he pull back from signing that agreement since it did nothing more than that? What was the harm in it? What was the problem? And why was it when I reentered the governmental picture in 1977 with Jimmy Carter that we didn't pick up where President Ford had left off with the outlines of an agreement that was called the Vladivostok Agreement in honor of his meeting with Leonid Brezhnev, the Soviet leader in the City of Vladivostok. Why don't we just pick up with that, sign it, go on to the next stage of agreement? Why was it that instead President Carter decided he wanted a comprehensive agreement to go well beyond the Vladivostok terms. And it took us another two years, two and a half years to be precise before we signed that agreement. And why is it that it's been four years since then, four years since we signed the SALT II Treaty that we didn't ratify, that we've been negotiating and haven't got anything at all? I've been in Geneva now for four years and literally have not progressed on one major issue. Why is that? Why is it that we've had now arms control for almost two decades and have done so little? Why is it that President Reagan is observing the SALT II Treaty when he called it practically treasonous, said he wouldn't submit it for Senate ratification because it was so bad. If it was so bad, why is he observing it? And why is it if he believes, as he has said, the Soviet Union has strategic nuclear superiority over the United States and he's negotiating with them at all, because he has said over and again, that the United States must not, cannot afford to negotiate from a position of weakness. And if we're not in a position of weakness why is it taking us so long to strike a bargain? And if we are in a position of weakness, if we are as inferior as our president tells us, why would the Soviet Union make the kind of concessions he's calling upon them to make? Where's the sense in it all? What's really going on? Nuclear politics really is a beast unto itself that you have to begin to understand in its own terms, it's special, it's different. In Milton's Paradise Lost, toward the end of Book Six, the angel Raphael takes Adam aside and he explains to him the war among the angels. And he tells Adam that when Satan and his followers began their rebellion, a war started between the loyal angels and Satan's followers. And in the first day of fighting, the loyal angels seem to be prevailing. And that night Satan gathered all his followers and they were discussing why they were losing. And they agreed very quickly that it wasn't a question of intelligence or ingenuity, it must be that the loyal angels had better weapons and this rock Satan's lieutenants suggest, \"What we need is a better weapon.\" And Satan says, \"That's exactly what I was thinking. And in fact, I've invented one, a field gun, and we'll put it together tonight. We'll manufacture many of these and we'll turn the tide of battle tomorrow.\" And they did. When the battle started, Satan's forces began to push the loyal angels back and the loyal angels in their frustration, resorted to the ultimate weapon. They began pulling up the Hills of Heavens by their very roots. And they started to win. And Satan's followers of course, responded in kind pulling up the other Hills of Heavens and hurling them at the loyal angels in a battle that Raphael described to Adam as one which, he said it was an uproar that made a civil war look mild. And he also told Adam that the kinds of weapons being used there, these ultimate weapons would be reinvented by your progeny if malice abounds. At some point in this battle, God sends his son to intervene, stop the fighting and Satan and his followers are cast out into darkness. And the angels would have survived anyway even if heaven had been destroyed. But we wouldn't, we can't count on that divine intervention and we would not survive the ultimate weapon. So how have we come to deal with it? Because this weapon truly is special. In August, 1945, we dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. That bomb killed instantly upwards of a hundred thousand people. It was a bomb of roughly 12 kilotons with 12,000 tons of TMT. That is now the size of the smallest nuclear weapon we possess. Let me give you an idea of the kind of power we have now harnessed for purposes of military use. Take one Poseidon submarine, one U S Poseidon submarine, sails out from a port in Groton, Connecticut and it's being tailed by some of our own ships, just to see if we can follow it. A submarine at some point dives and after 24 hours, it's lost the chasers, and it's sitting out there somewhere in the North Atlantic. And this one submarine has 16 missiles and on each missile is 10 warheads, 160 different warheads. There are about 200 cities in the Soviet Union with a population of 200,000 or above. Each one of these warheads is about 40 kilotons or more than three times the destructive power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. So one Poseidon submarine can destroy 160 cities in the Soviet Union with three times the force of the bomb we dropped on Hiroshima. We have about 10,000 such strategic warheads. We have another close to 7,000 tactical nuclear warheads deployed in Europe, battlefield weapons. We have another 6,000 such weapons deployed in the Asian theater and roughly five to 6,000 of these tactical weapons, nuclear weapons stored here in the United States. So today United States has something like 25,000 nuclear warheads and bombs. Virtually all of them are more powerful than the one we dropped on Hiroshima. This is the kind of awesomeness that by itself, or to make us wanna know what's really going on to find out the answers to those questions that I asked. As we try to come to grips with this nuclear reality, kind of three images began to dominate the public debate. As we tried to understand this power, come to grips with it. One was the image of Armageddon that we now have the power to destroy ourselves. And this kind of mentality, the image of Armageddon led to two conflicting feelings, to some it led to a very devout idealism that we've got to rid ourselves of this capability. We can't trust ourselves with it, it's too horrible. Let's have real disarmament. And others who have this Armageddon image in their head became almost totally despairing. There was no hope and nothing to do. And in many ways, this mentality I think characterizes the political left in the United States, a combination of idealism and despair. A second image, second way of trying to grow with the nuclear reality was Hiroshima itself. And again, it had a Janice face and a Janice-like kind of effect because to some Hiroshima was the forerunner of the ultimate horror of Armageddon, but to others, curiously enough, it was a demonstration that somehow one could endure a nuclear war, that it could be fought and that we could survive. They said, yes, Hiroshima was horrible, 85,000 dead right away, hundreds of thousands, maim forever thereafter. But look at Hiroshima today, it's a thriving surviving city. Nuclear war is not really so unthinkable, both looking at that Hiroshima experience. You have many people today involved with nuclear weapons policy who believe that you can fight and win and survive nuclear war, that it can be controlled. And reinforcing this is the third conception of reality, the third way of coming to terms with nuclear weapons that arose out of the Cuban missile crisis. In October, 1962, President Kennedy found that the Russians had secreted medium range missiles in Cuba. Without recounting the whole story, the essence was he told the Soviet that either they would have to take those missiles out of Cuba, or we would take some unspecified action somewhere to get them out. In other words, he seemed to be threatening nuclear war and in fact later his biographers noted that he thought that the chances of nuclear war after his public declaration Soviet either had to take them out, face the consequences. That Kennedy thought the chances of a nuclear war was something like one in three. But the Russians did take the missiles out and this led to the notion that one could engage in crisis management with nuclear weapons, that you could use them as an instrument of diplomacy, that we had gained a major diplomatic triumph in this, that there was some real value to nuclear superiority. We had it, the Soviets didn't, it came to a crisis. We told them to get out and they were forced to do it. Nuclear superiority had wheel power effects. And we've come to the point now where the combination of Hiroshima survival and crisis diplomacy, all of the Cuban missile situation in October '62 is painted on the one side against a whole other group, despairing and believing you can get rid of these weapons on the other. And these people have truly dominated the debate from these two groups. Now, it isn't a partisan question, the distortion of the debate that we're talking about tonight over nuclear weapons, is not the sole province of the Democrats or the sole province of the Republicans. In 1956, a very good liberal democratic candidate for President of the United States, Adlai Stevenson made a major issue of what he called the Bomber Gap. He said President Eisenhower had allowed the Soviet Union to get way ahead of us in the development of long range atomic bombers. Well, in fact, there was a bomber gap, as it later became quite evident in our favor, by the thousands. We had thousands more atomic bombs to be delivered by long flying aircraft and the Soviets did, Stevenson tried to make that an issue. In 1960, you may be better familiar with Kennedy's raising the issue of the missile gap. He said, Eisenhower allowed the Soviets to get way ahead of us in the development of Intercontinental missiles. Sputnik went up in 1957, it looked like in the age of rocketry we were being left behind. But the Soviets had over 2000 of these ICBM's and we were just beginning to build them ourselves. And Kennedy discovered when he was elected if he did not know so beforehand, and I believe he did know the truth beforehand. He discovered after he was elected, that there was a missile gap, that we had about 2000 and the Russians had at most 50 or 54, I think the number. Astonishing that this could happen. And it was a very effective campaign weapon too. Similarly, Ronald Reagan use this against President Ford in the 1976 elections. And then again, President Carter and whenever the next election was, 1980. In 1976, I mentioned before, President Ford was on the verge of concluding an agreement with the Soviets based on his Vladivostok meeting with Leonid Brezhnev. And depending upon who you believe they were within five or 10% of the agreement, and they had several meetings in the white house, President Ford, Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld, who was Defense Secretary at that time. Fords political advisors, they say, \"All right, do we make the necessary compromises now to close out this agreement? Or do we string it through the election and deal with it in the next term?\" And almost all Ford's advisors urged him not to even try to conclude the treaty, that Ronald Reagan who was running against President Ford and the Republican primaries was making a major issue of the SALT Treaty. And that this was a very effective rallying cry within the Republican Party. And they in effect, the advisers told Ford that, \"If you conclude this agreement, Reagan is gonna take the Republican nomination away from you.\" Ford backed off. There was no treaty. Subsequently if you take a look at his memoirs, what I'm saying is not speculation, it's all well-documented and admitted to by President Ford and the people who were involved in the center prize at that time. He wrote later that he had made a terrible mistake, should have concluded the treaty because it was right to do so and because it would have been good politics too, but he got frightened off. In '77, Reagan takes on the same issue with Jimmy Carter. Carter, Ford, Nixon, according to Reagan had allowed the United States forces to fall into disrepair. Meanwhile, the Soviets were steadily climbing in their capability and had reached a position of superiority. And the polls that were taken during the 1980 election showed that most people believe this. Most Americans thought United States have now become inferior militarily. Well, it was a Republican issue and a democratic issue. You have people saying these things even today who are Democrats, as well as Republicans. Let's examine the truth of it. Let's look at each of these major charges that have been made and see what the facts are and see how far the facts can take us in answering the major charges. There are three. First that the arms control agreements between the United States and the Soviet Union, somehow lulled the American people into a false sense of security, that they taunt and arms control caused us to lower our guard, spend less on the military than we needed to spend, Charge One. Charge Two, that the Soviets cheat on the arms control agreements. Charge Three, that the United States is in a position of strategic nuclear inferiority. Now, what I'm gonna tell you in respect of these three questions is the facts. Where the facts are in doubt, I'll tell you that. Where the judgements are different, I'll tell you that too, but this is not a question of my opinion against somebody else's opinion. The first one, that the American people were lulled into a false sense of security by virtue of improving relations with the Soviet Union and specifically by virtue of these arms control treaties, that somehow the American people fought and because we had signed SALT I, that peace had broken out and we no longer needed to make the defense effort that we had in previous decades. The facts simply don't support that proposition at all. Here's what the facts are. In 1970, there began in our country, a strong movement to cut monetary spending. That's a fact. And the movement had its origins in two things, the Vietnam War and the quest for domestic priorities, they were related. Coming out of the Vietnam War there was a feeling that we had devoted far too much of our resources to the war and too little to domestic problems that were bubbling up. And then we had to take from the defense pot and give to the domestic pot. And mind you, this was not simply a democratic issue. In 1970 Defense Secretary, Melvin Laird, Nixon's Defense Secretary sent his budget to Congress, and in his budget presentation said exactly what I told you that he is proposing the Nixon administration cuts in defense spending because as we trail out of the Vietnam War, there's less need for it and two there's more need for spending on domestic matters. It's right there in black and white anybody to look at. This was a general sentiment. If you go back and look at the debates in Congress which horror I put myself through in order to see what the truth was in this matter to read through all those congressional debates is nightmare, I'd rather read a classic comic book. There are only a handful full of instances over the course of a whole decade where congressmen justified their votes to cut defense spending on the grounds that they thought that the Soviet Union had now become a Pacific power and that we could afford to do it. Defense spending over that decade was, and this is a fact as Reagan says, defense spending was a smaller part of our gross national product and a smaller part of our federal budget than it had been in the fifties and sixties, as the percentage of GNP it was less. But in absolute terms, it remained pretty much the same. And beginning of 1976, it started to go up a little and it would have gone up even more but just think about what was going on at the time. We had enormous inflation particularly in defense costs because of the increase in price of oil. The price of oil quadrupled, and this directly affected a good deal of the planned increases on military spending. In other words, they were spending more money just to buy a lot of the same amount. I think the record is very clear that the American people are not so stupid as to believe that because the Soviet Union and the United States signed some arms control treaties and started cultural and scientific exchanges, that peace had broken out between our two countries. Even though Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger were telling them that we had entered a new era of negotiation, not confrontation, it was a structure, a new structure of peace. They didn't believe it. They had enough sense to realize that we have an ingrained competition with the Soviets, that arms control might be moderating that to some degree, but it hadn't made it evaporate. So charge one, it just doesn't stand up. Charge two, Soviet's cheap. This is a tough question to deal with because the Soviets are tough to deal with. In June '79, I went off with President Carter to the summit meeting with Brezhnev and the signing of the SALT II Treaty. A little sidelight on that. The evening before the talk started, we'd go to the opera house in Vienna and when President Carter comes into the Royal box, the applause from the people downstairs. Brezhnev comes in, sadly there were more applause for him than for Jimmy Carter. And then as we're all looking at Brezhnev and Carter, the applause from downstairs starts to well up just feeling the whole house and we assume that the Austrians are now cheering the two world leaders. We're looking at the leaders very proudly and then as the applause go on, it's becomes very clear there aren't cheering these guys at all, that the conductor had mounted at the podium. He was an elderly man of great repute in Austria and named called Berm and this was to be his farewell concert. And it turned out that that was far more important to the Austrians than Jimmy Carter and Leonid Brezhnev. And when they met the two of them the next day, an incident occurred that shows you how difficult it is to deal with the Russians and how one has to keep that fact in mind in making arms control agreements. When two leaders meet at the summit, everything is worked out well in advance by aids, it's staged. There's actually scripts written. And we worked for six weeks prior to the summit with ambassador to Britain, the other Soviets in the embassy in Washington on exactly what issues would be discussed, what our guy would say, what his guy would respond and how the remaining issues on SALT would be resolved. Because when you have the two heads of state present, that's the final word, you don't wanna make a mistake and the scripting allows for precision. Also, when you have heads of state meeting or foreign ministers meeting, they're the only ones at the table who can talk. Presidents meet only they talk. It's a meeting of foreign ministers, only they talk. It's a very carefully choreographed event. One of the issues that hadn't been fully and finally resolved with respect to the SALT II Treaty concerned the Soviet aircraft that we call the Backfire. There were some Americans who thought it was a long range aircraft, and should have been counted in SALT totals, SALT limitations, and others felt it was a medium aircraft didn't belong in this agreement. Soviets of course, insisted that it had nothing to do with a long range capabilities. And the way we compromised was to agree that the Soviets would produce no more than 35 Backfires a year, and that they would not improve or increase the range and payload of this aircraft by more than a certain minimal percentage. And our leaders were to confirm that at the table. Jimmy Carter was to say, \"It is my understanding that you agree to the following and state these two points.\" And then Brezhnev was to say, \"Yes, the Soviet Union accepts those two conditions and we understand you will state those conditions to Congress and presenting the Treaty to the Senate.\" So Carter says his piece and Brezhnev says, \"I understand.\" He was supposed to say, \"I understand and I accept these terms and understand you'll present them to the Congress.\" He only said, \"I understand,\" which in terms of legal obligation is quite different from saying, \"I agree, I accept.\" Carter let it pass. And when we all met later on, everyone jumped on him and said, \"You can't do this. It's a major issue. We could lose the treaty over it. You've gotta go back.\" Raise it the next morning, even though it was not on the agenda, it had been passed and it was all over with. So go back in the next morning, Carter raises it, Brezhnev says, \"What are you talking about? I told you, I understand. I said, it's no problem.\" And Carter said, \"But he was supposed to say, I accept and agree.\" You said, I said it was no problem. At which point Gromyko starts to talk, absolutely unheard of enters and you're trying to make this summit fail. You raising this extraneous issue. What are you trying to do? Make fools of us. Then Vance started to talk. Again, this is chaos, but one of these carefully scripted events and then finally Brezhnev said, \"All right, all right, but so important to you. I accept that and I agree with it.\" But the fact is he knew exactly what he was supposed to say and he tried to do something different. And dealing with the Soviets as much that way. I find them very much akin to Labor Union leaders or Mafiosi. And when you think about it, this is how they come to get power in the Soviet Union. That's a very rough and tumble atmosphere. And one has to be a very hard-headed bargainer to survive that process. It's not a question of going out and having a lot of rubber chicken dinners with the folks. A hell of a lot is at stake by the time you've risen to that level there. Excuse me. Maybe, maybe in their case, all I think style is quite different and the style of these people is different. They are rough and tumble. They do like to engage in this bargaining process. Where we have had precise agreements with the Soviets, they have always complied with those agreements and no one who's looked at that record will say otherwise. Where there is ambiguity, they have interpreted it to suit them and we've complained about it. And in most cases, each of us has gone by our own interpretation and not resolved it, but where we could show that we had cause for the complaint, they often complied with that. And where we couldn't show good cause they went about their own business. That's why when we negotiate these treaties with the Soviets, we have documents appended to them that explain the words of the treaty. If you look at the SALT II Treaty, you'll see that the appendix is 10 times the length of the treaty and the appendix consists of a whole series of what are called the greed statements and common understandings, where because our past experience with them, we try to nail down every possible ambiguity. You can never do it all. But where we have nailed it down, a record of compliance is very, very good. Now what's the proof of that? The proof of that is again, let's take Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan came into office saying the Soviets had massively violated past agreements. He has yet to formally charge the Soviet with a single violation. And I submit to you that someone who felt so strongly about their cheating would have been eager to go bring it to the appropriate channels and would have made the formal charges. He did not. He has not. Third point. We're inferior. Ronald Reagan says that, Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger says that but the previous Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, David Jones says, \"No, we're probably superior.\" And the present Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Vessey says when asked, \"Would you trade your forces for the Soviet forces?\" He says, \"Not in your life.\" What are the facts? The facts are that the Soviets are better than us in ICBM's, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, the land-based missiles, theirs have more destructive power than ours and almost equal accuracy, and theirs are better at destroying hardened targets, targets hardened by steel and concrete, like other missiles, silos, command and control bunkers and the like and there's never been a case in history where air defenses have shown attacking aircraft, nowhere near it. But even if it's shot down 25%, that would still leave 75% to get through. So air defense is very limited in success against aircraft under any circumstances and in a nuclear war it means practically nothing. So if an only if, if and only if you think that land-based missiles are more important than everything else, could you believe that the Soviets have nuclear superiority? The fact of the matter is that the time will come when land-based missiles will be vulnerable to attack and when that time comes, the Soviets will be in far greater jeopardy than we, because they have 70% of their total strategic nuclear capability in land-based missiles sitting there one day to be vulnerable. We have only 20%, our capabilities across the board. 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That's a fact. Now why given all this can't we do anything? To me, it's not that the record of arms control has been so bad. It's not that we have accomplished so little, but that we have taken so long to do it. Two decades. In effect, to get each side to agree, to do nothing more than they had done at the time they signed that agreement. What's going on? To be sure there are problems of trust. That's inherent in the situation. Great powers like individuals who just don't trust each other, and we and the Soviets don't trust each other are not going to make big compromises. It's asking too much, to make big compromises with no confidence there. It's also a fact that their forces are very different from ours. Their state of technological development is behind ours. And it's difficult when you have a situation like this the apples and oranges to make big trades that both sides are prepared to accept. How do you equate your concession against the other guys? It's too difficult to calibrate but each time we have entered a negotiation with the Soviets, instead of taking these realities into account and planning the negotiations accordingly we start off asking for the moon. It was Nixon's proposal that the Soviets virtually dismantle their land-based missile force at the start of SALT I that took four years to complete that negotiation. It was Jimmy Carter at the beginning of his administration wanting this comprehensive agreement instead of completing the work that Ford had done at Vladivostok wanting to go beyond Vladivostok that took us another two and a half years to finish it. And here president Reagan is now talking about deep cuts and strategic forces. And up until six weeks ago, talking about eliminating all medium range missiles in Europe we know that's not going to happen. We know we wouldn't cut such a deal and we know the Soviets wouldn't cut it. But you have demands from both the political left and the political right for real arms control. Let's do something that's militarily significant. Let's freeze things. Let's eliminate all these systems and it's simply not going to happen. There isn't the trust, there isn't the symmetry of capability. And there isn't the support in either place for making big compromises. We could go much further, much faster in dealing with the threat of nuclear war if we recognized this overwhelming reality and took smaller steps took them faster to get where we need to go sooner. Because as matters now stand we've been negotiating for two decades and we have only one ratified treaty doing it this other way. Well, we started out asking for a lot because of what both conservatives and liberals were demanding and then gradually pulled back gradually pulled back. 'till you got something you could deal on. Only one ratified. We haven't had a single arms control treaty with the Soviet Union ratified since 1972, because people's notions of what you can accomplish by this have well outstripped reality. And that will continue to happen until people show the political leadership that they understand. And understanding means the mythologizing those arguments, what are, what damage arms control has supposedly done us making progress means depoliticizing this enterprise to some degree so that politicians are not rewarded for saying ridiculous things. When you do the small steps I'm suggesting I'm not arguing that you're going to end up solving the problems inherent in the political differences between the United States and the Soviet Union. We're not going to be able to solve those problems with arms control treaties. But without them, there are no solutions. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Mr. Galvin has agreed to entertain questions for a few moments.\r\n\r\n- We don't need to restrict ourselves to this subject we can go on some other things that you would like.\r\n\r\n- SALT II where do you see\r\n\r\n- Well, I'll tell you, I haven't.\r\n\r\n- Did you like the final version of SALT II?\r\n\r\n- I thought it was the best we could do at that point. I would like to have done other things but there's tomorrow you fix what you can now, then you go on to tackle other problems later. I wish the Soviets would have made a hundred more concessions to us but they weren't going to do it. We put a lead on the competition. The treaty was to last for eight years we were gonna start negotiating on another treaty as soon as that one was signed, we would have dealt with some of the other problems next time. I found very few people in the Reagan administration who have read the SALT II treaty and I've had conversations with an awful lot of them. Most of them haven't the foggiest idea what's in there. Before I left the administration, I went around the country to different groups to talk about the agreement. And there had been people there before me talking about it, opponents, who had said certain things were in the treaty that were not in the treaty. And said certain things were not in the treaty that we're in the treaty. Now, here I am in front of a group and it's a, it's a kind of subject you know people think very technical. They're not gonna understand it. As soon as you get into any of the details the eyes start to glaze over and it takes a minute to lay down an accusation and an hour to clear it up. And a number of these people were going around making the charges. I knew, knew better. They had read the document. They were against the treaty for broader reasons. They just thought arms control was not the thing to have at this critical testing moment in Soviet-American relations. And we had to begin alerting the American people to the imminent Soviet danger. And you couldn't do that and at the same time argue for arms control. And they were very cynical in attacking Seoul to achieve this larger purpose. But it's very difficult when people won't take the little time out necessary to understand to deal with that kind of problem. You know, I would come in behind some retired military officer, a former deputy secretary of defense and the people would walk out. I could see it on their faces. They would say, \"Well, this fella Galvin seems \"like a straightforward, honest guy, \"but the other guy seemed \"like a straightforward, honest guy to me too. \"So I don't know who to believe.\" And at best you end up with a wash and I even used to bring the text of this thing along. Point to it because I found that if I could really catch them black and white in something that, that would affect people's perceptions. But if those who had been there before me had been more clever, it was hard for me to point to a specific passage and say, \"Look they're just not telling you the truth.\" In the case of Ronald Reagan I would bet you dollars to donuts he still hasn't read it. And the case, every conversation I've had with Casper Weinberger he shows no evidence of knowing what's in that agreement. A number of other people at middle levels have read it. They have their differences, to which my response has been, well go negotiate some revisions and let's seal it up and go on.\r\n\r\n- What kind of a small step do we advocate that would as far as eliminating nuclear weapons.\r\n\r\n- Well, the main problem to get at is the hardest one to get at. Namely the growing capability on both sides to believe that they can control a nuclear war. They can fight a precision conflict. They could hit certain targets, not others. They could limit population deaths. They could fire off a few Salvos, hold back and see what the results were that they could conduct this more or less as an artillery duel. Now both sides are developing weapons with the kind of accuracy and command and control capabilities with the kind of reach instantaneous reach, to give leaders on both sides the illusion that they might actually be able to control this. That to me is the single most dangerous thing that could happen. Because if you think you can manage these things you don't treat them with enough respect. I don't want any human being lacking in wisdom as we all have that kind of belief about nuclear weapons. I don't want it. Its too dangerous. How do you get at it? You hate it frontally you run up against all the problems I talked about. I want to build some momentum in this process. I would start, excuse me, with something very small indeed dealing with medium range missiles in Europe just to break that deadlock, do very little on our side ask very little of them so that we can then throw all medium and strategic weapons into one pot where it's easier to make compromises from a one to one pot is more to deal with. It's easier to make reductions. At the same time I would accept the reality that we're not gonna get the Soviets to eliminate the one thing they're better than us at, land-based missiles. While we retain all our advantages in the other weapons. And I would be prepared over a long time over a period of 10 years to have them phase down some of their land-based weapons. As we agreed to curtail numbers of our weapons in other areas, but they're not going to do it over the short run nor are we. I was in the Soviet Union in March. And one of the people I spoke to was Marshal Ogarkov who was the chairman Soviet armed forces equivalent of our Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff. And he said to me then as he had two years before, that he would be prepared, over time to phase out land-based missile phase them down but it would have to take a very long time because the quicker they phase these down the more our advantages in these other areas would count against him. Now, even though I could argue with him about that he's not going to change that view. And I would grind that into the step-by-step process. I could foresee if we lowered our sites for each step three or four agreements over the next eight years putting us at the position for the first time of being able to get at this central core problem the illusion that one can fight and survive and win nuclear wars. I've spelled this out in some greater detail in an article I wrote that's on the cover of the New York magazine about three weeks ago. And for those of you who may be passionate on the subject we can talk about it later. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Do you believe that nuclear war is an eventuality? And if it was do you honestly believe it would be relevant?\r\n\r\n- I tell you, its very hard for me to believe that unless we take a lot of steps and make a lot of progress in this area that we can avoid some outbreak of nuclear war. And that once it occurs, it will be very difficult if not impossible to control because the devastation on both sides so enormous that'll be difficult to hold back those who want to fire off more weapons. Just the dynamics of the situation, I think we should never assume are manageable. And I only talked about Soviet-American nuclear competition. There are other countries that will in time develop nuclear capabilities unless we give them good reason not to. And while I don't think we and the Soviets have any particular monopoly on wisdom or the French and British or the Chinese. The fact is that the more societies one has where one could have unstable leaders does increase this risk. And these problems must be dealt with with some celerity. Otherwise none of the rest of it is going to matter. You know, even if you say the chances are less than 1% it's too high, given the consequences. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Do you think that these arms limitation talks, is the real purpose or intention of each country to have a good, fair limitation of the arms between two countries? Plus each country going to the talks trying to come out with an edge over the other country and not just the Soviet Union but us too.\r\n\r\n- Sure, you always try for an edge and the bigger the edge you try for the longer it takes for the negotiations to consummate because in my judgment the Soviet Union, United States are in a position of rough parity and neither has to make major concessions to the other. And either will wait both will wait there long enough to come out with an agreement that it considers equitable. You will find that if Ronald Reagan gets a START treaty that he will have abandoned almost all of his major positions, otherwise not gonna get it. And you know, it only stands to reason one could look at the president and say, Mr. President why do you think the Soviets would give you what you're asking when you're asking and in fact, to tear down the one area where they're better than we are, and we hold on to everything else? When you yourself are saying, they're stronger than we are why should cut such a deal? Why shouldn't they negotiate from strength? So if there is to be a deal it's going to be much more modest than where both sides are right now. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Maybe I misunderstood regarding what is your position on ?\r\n\r\n- I'm against it. Because I think it would take longer to negotiate far longer to negotiate than the kind of steps I'm talking about. First of all, to negotiate ban on production of nuclear weapons would in itself be a breathtaking enterprise because we would have to be in a position of being able to enter almost every major facility in the Soviet Union and to let them do the same here and to work out the details of that forget everything else would be a five-year enterprise or longer, maybe never achievable at all. Point one. Point two you'd have to spend a great deal of time agreeing exactly as to what would be included, what would be excluded. Would it be just strategic weaponry? Would it be everything else? Would it be a freeze for six months or a year? Once it's for a year let's say it might be difficult for us to say we wanna resume politically, but pretty easy at any point the Soviets might wanna say for them to just start deploying again. In a democracy would be hard to overturn something like that in a dictatorship not, we already had that experience with the Soviet 1960s when there was a moratorium on nuclear testing in the atmosphere which they woke up one day and broke. We couldn't do that. They could, if the freeze is to last over several years how do we maintain our production lines, design teams? A congress gonna foot all that money for them to sit around and literally do nothing. The Soviet Union that's no problem. There are hosts of other difficulties practical issues, but the nub of it to me is that it seems simple to say, freeze, but go negotiate it and you have a very complicated, time consuming process on your hands. One that falls victim to the very problems that I've been trying to outline. And one that stands in the way of taking those small steps that will carry us to our ultimate goal far sooner. I would take on that freeze debate with anyone. And I'm an arms control advocate All way in the back.\r\n\r\n- You talk a lot about nuclear arms in this country obviously because I suppose of their destructive capabilities, but the Europeans have been focusing on commercializing conventional because they think that in this trying times, playing games with nuclear weapons they obviously know it's like nuclear war and we don't. I've heard Western European countries expressing the opinion that we should learn more about conventional forces than we should nuclear forces without\r\n\r\n- Well, I wish that were true, but it isn't. In fact, the French and the British are spending increasing percentages of their military budgets on nuclear weapons. And both countries are about to go into full-scale modernization programs. Right now between them, the French and British have about 300 missile warheads, medium range missile ward heads. By the end of this decade, that will be around 1500. The British are going to buy from us a new Trident submarine missile and the French are going to deploy a whole new generation of submarine launch missiles themselves. And these expenditures are very very costly and are going to 'cause both countries to cut back on conventional force expenditures. Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Do you think that's one reason then why they are not very receptive in bringing their nuclear forces in to ?\r\n\r\n- Absolutely, It's one of the main reasons. You see here's a typical problem. Let me just take a moment now to illustrate exactly what I'm driving at. We have the talks between the Soviet Union and the United States on medium range forces in Europe. The Russians say they should cover missiles and aircraft. We say just missiles because we say that's the real problem. Those are the dangerous weapons. And besides we can't agree on what aircraft should be included and not included. The Russians present a list of some 2000 American aircraft they say should be included. We present a list of 200 American aircraft and I tell you having participated in SALT negotiations in 1969. And then in the Carter administration we can sit there 'till doomsday with them arguing about what your aircraft to include and not include. The second issue, the Russians say that our totals should include French and British forces. They say hey, when the missile comes over Soviet territory does it say on it I am a British missile, I am a French missile, what do we care? It's coming from your side. They're not going to shoot it at you. And we say, I can understand you're saying that but the fact is we don't control their forces and we don't! So why should we count in our totals forces that we don't control? And they say, I don't care whether you control them they're going to hit us, they're your friends, not ours. And besides we're not going to touch our forces in Asia because the Chinese have nuclear weapons there aimed at us and you're putting new battleships out into that area armed with nuclear tipped cruise missiles. And you want us to have just one pot of medium range missiles and forget about your forces and Chinese forces in Asia. Now, a Solomon with a mandate from heaven could not resolve those things in one package. How do you do it? The solution I offered was to try to skip some of these problems now, because you're not gonna work out the compromises on them, your just not. Their fundamental. I would say to the Soviets look you don't have to touch your best medium range weapons at all, your SS-20's. You can't deploy any new ones but you don't have to destroy any older ones. You only destroy your older medium range missiles the SS-4's and fives. We in turn would only deploy our ground launch cruise missiles and not the Pershing ballistic missiles. Pershing ballistic missiles can reach Soviet territory near the Soviet capital in about 12 minutes. Cuts down on their warning time. Cruise missiles fly at the pace of an aircraft so it gives them more warning time. We don't deploy any ballistic missiles on our side you have them on your side. You don't have to make any big reductions in your SS-20's and that's the compensation in effect de facto, for the French and British forces. So you get around the compromise because you can't make it at this point. Then in the second stage I would take all those medium range forces and combine them in one negotiation with the strategic forces where when you're not dealing with a few hundred warheads but you're dealing with 10,000 you have more room for compromise and maneuver. It's that kind of approach and mentality that I hope to see injected into the debate. Otherwise you get nowhere you just sit there and look at each other.\r\n\r\n- Do you characterize take much longer than they would ordinarily presumably take because people are asking too much from your side, people are looking for an advantage and I've always thought that arms negotiations were basically show and tell and find out what kind of agenda they're really was behind such criminal activities that is the complete destruction of North hemisphere at least even an attempt for the arsenal on both sides. Could you tell me why at least you can't speak for the other side. Could you tell me why our side continually go on building so much?\r\n\r\n- Well, first of all it's a fact that when these negotiations start we end up asking for the kinds of things that people on both the left and the right think should be included. Yes, indeed. And we end up simply legitimizing the arms race. You start off with something terribly ambitious, you end up accepting the status quo. Now why do we do it? I'm an old movie buff. I like to stay up late at night and watch the movies from two o'clock in the morning to five o'clock. And I read TV guide to get the descriptions of these things. And one night as I was thumbing through it, I came across a movie with a fascinating title was called 'Night of the Lepus'. So I looked up see what the movie was about. And this is 'Night of the Lepus' giant rabbit terrorizes Arizona. And I said to myself, hey that's what's going on in my business. You have, as an arms control advocate so much as it is these political extremes, driving our leaders to do things that just aren't very sensible. Now do arms manufacturers wanna manufacture their arms? Yes, to be sure. Is it difficult to control technology? Yes. But you could tackle every one of these issues. If we approach these negotiations with more realism I'll tell you something about the Soviets, the Soviets while they are far more unreasonable than we are, are far more realistic than we are too. You can have a conversation with a Soviet. I went over there for two weeks this last time and it's an experience because they never agree with you. They just don't. The best you'll get out of some of them is the pass onto the next subject. And it comes time to make a compromise they will make the compromise. They set their sights much lower because they know right off and are prepared to make a big move. And in fact I think the way they've approached our arms control far more realistic and responsible than in the way we have. I wish they would be more forthcoming. I wish we would, but they won't be nor will we. And the reason isn't the military industrial conspiracy it is primarily that our political debate is our own worst enemy. And that we continue to reward our politicians for being the giant rabbit. Yes sir.\r\n\r\n- You've mentioned that you have some real fear of nuclear war in the future. 1% of that, you mentioned that the only agreement that we've had recently basically was an agreement that we will do just what we've already done, really didn't break ground. What real objective do you think there is in a negotiation that could be accomplished or what benefits could be accomplished over having none at all? What is the reason in fact to have motivation especially in light of new technologies which ?\r\n\r\n- I don't think that the initial agreements would solve the most important problems. But I also know that no agreements are gonna solve the problems either. And I think that if we begin to corral this competition, the ways I've suggested and bite into it where we can, that you get to the point somewhere over the next decade of being able to tackle the harder problems and have leadership on both sides being willing to make those compromises, because they will have built up over that time some greater confidence in the reliability of the agreement some greater sense that we can manage the relationship with each other, even with these agreements. And over the course of the decade, a sense that our forces are more comparable, that we're not attempting to realign them to unilateral advantage but it can't be done quickly. It's an enterprise for a decade or more if we do it right it's an enterprise that we'll never get started on at all if we continue doing it the way we have been.\r\n\r\n- I'm doing a follow up on that, I'm sure your familiar with this sort of balance of power notion about whether ones that has balance is secure than the other or if they're both equal. Do you think that if the nuclear situation was such that each side had half the weapons they do today, they would be more secure than if they both had twice. Perhaps the leaders are equally afraid of the complexities and the great dire effect and the fact that everybody's afraid to push a single button because it would unleash 10,000 things. Don't you think you'd be more afraid if you would only unleash maybe 100 or 1000 missiles than it could unleash 10,000?\r\n\r\n- Well, you know, it's not necessarily true that the fewer weapons you have, the safer we'll all be. It's not necessarily true that if there are deep reductions that you've actually reduced the risks of war. Let me give you an example because this is another point where I feel both the left and the right have managed to substantially distort the debate. When you're thinking about planning nuclear wars or the feasibility of it, the critical variable is the ratio of warheads to targets, bullets to things you're gonna shoot at. And if you feel you have got enough bullets so that you can use only a few of them and destroy all the targets and still have bullets left and the other guy hasn't got many at all then you're in a situation that's inherently unstable. And if you take the Reagan proposal for deep cuts in strategic forces, where he wants to cut both sides missile warheads. Follow me, you can understand this. He's proposing to cut the number of missile warheads on both sides from about 7,500 to 5,000. By a third, big cut. When you work out the mathematics of it the fact is that he would have increased the ratio of warheads to targets rather than decrease it. It made the situation even more unstable. So reductions in numbers of weapons and warheads per say, doesn't make it safer. The key things are the kinds of weapons involved, the systems for controlling them, the development of new weapons underway. These are things that will really cut into the kind of problem I think could cause war. The feeling that you could control and manage it even win it. Reductions per say, sound good, but in the end they really don't add much to stability and don't make life much safer for us. Yes, we should do them. They ought to be part of an arms control package but you are not to delude yourself that you've made any of us safer in the enterprise. In fact, by focusing all the political energy on reducing numbers of missile warheads you may be putting it in the wrong place. Yes.\r\n\r\n- What do you think should be done about considering Soviet Union and US funding of in the Middle East and Central America?\r\n\r\n- Funding of what?\r\n\r\n- Of conflict, funding of guerilla groups and military stuff like that.\r\n\r\n- Well, big question. Now, what's going on in central America makes me very glad I'm not in government. Don't have to face those kinds of choices. You know, we are very lucky as Americans in the life we lead and the freedom we have. And we've been so rewarded by our history and by our geography that we know less of the world and maybe any other country in the world. Were less concerned with them, we need them less. And when it comes to the issue of change, it frightens Americans. It really does. And in our roots because we do have something so special here. So important, so good. That when change occurs anywhere, it seems to threaten our vitals. It makes Americans very nervous. The feeling that somehow this can set off a chain reaction that would somehow tumble to our own borders at some point. And we believe that in Vietnam American supported the war in Vietnam until quite late even though it was 10,000 miles away and the much more frightened underneath it all by something happening on the borders. By change. And even though I think most would probably agree that you're gonna get social change in an area like central America whatever the Soviet Union does and whatever Cuba does that it's primarily because of internal causes, history. The feeling still is that somehow it could, it could affect us, change us. And most Americans are willing to try to do something to prevent that. Not quite clear why, they're willing to do something. Certainly not necessarily send American troops. Second thing is, it's hard to know who to help and who is right and who's wrong there. I know nothing about Central America. The last two years, I know independent basis of judgment in the way I would any number of other areas that I've spent the last two years talking to people about Central America because it is so important trying to know. And yesterday I had a conversation with a nun who has been working in the town of Jalapa in Nicaragua. It's right near the Honduran border. Her name is Lisa Fitzgerald. Comes from a good conservative Irish Catholic family became a nun, gets shipped down to Nicaragua spends the day going out in the fields at 5.30 in the morning and work until three and coming back and doing hospital work after that. And I said to her, \" You know, tell me \"tell me whether the leaders \"of the Nicaraguan revolution in your opinion \"really are prepared to abandon their dictatorship \"because they are mostly interested \"in doing right for their people. \"And they don't want to spread revolution \"throughout central America, \"they want to take care of their own problems at home. \"Tell me that if you believe it. \"Tell me whether you think we're telling the truth. \"The administration that the government down there \"is simply a dictatorship in Nicaragua \"and that their main aim \"is to spread revolution in Central America.\" She says, \"I'm not going to be able \"to help you with your problem.\" She's down there now for two years living in inside this problem and her answer to it was not this side is telling the truth and that one is lying. It was that we don't know them. They don't know us, better leave them alone. And her instinct on this I must say it was like my own instinct. If I don't know something, I don't try to reshape it. I respect my lack of knowledge. And in the case of Central America, I would as hard as this is to say, I would essentially go with the flow down there. I think that we can live with social change. And I think in the end if we do these people will look far more to us than to anyone else. They need us. And in the end, we're far better for them than any Soviet model or Cuban model. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45522/file/118485#t=0.0,2536.1502"}]}]}]}