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That they're deficient in and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2814.95,2817.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's why they're schizophrenic. And if you can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2817.98,2820.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"embed that enzyme. Into. Their brain cells. Gosh I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2820.14,2825.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mean that's incredible. That and I really don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2827.1,2830.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think we've been we know I think neurobiology just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2830.52,2834.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in general how the brain works. And as I told you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2834.72,2838.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"earlier my husband has Alzheimer's. And when you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2838.98,2841.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"realize that there are parts of the brain that do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2841.95,2845.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this and parts of the brain that do that. And if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2845.01,2848.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can repair are people who have strokes or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2848.01,2851.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things of that sort. You. Know how the brain in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2851.19,2855.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the various parts of the brain interact with other","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2855.32,2857.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"parts of the brain or how you can replace function.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2857.64,2860.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know they know that in a way because five","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2861.15,2863.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people have strokes and they lose the ability do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2863.3,2865.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something. Another part of the brain learns how to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2865.56,2867.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do it. We need to understand that. And so I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2867.48,2872.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"neurobiology or neuro biochemistry. Oh. That would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2872.13,2877.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be fabulous. Really what it. Sounds like you enjoy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2877.86,2882.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your career and your life isn't. And I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2882.31,2885.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly enjoyed this interview with you. Are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2885.36,2887.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there any questions that I should have asked that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2887.73,2889.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I missed. Probably but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2889.62,2891.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you do then. But no I that's one bad thing the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2894.21,2898.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"memory does begin to go though. Thank you very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2898.89,2902.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much. I enjoyed it. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=2902.91,2904.44"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36709/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/709/original/MS0650_Ravel.vtt?1650911284","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/709/original/MS0650_Ravel.vtt?1650911284"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36710","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0650_Ravel.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938/transcript/36710/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿- About 27 2002 and I am in the home of Dr. Joanne Ravel and looking ahead now. So tell me what you remember about growing up. And how did you develop an interest in science or what are your memories in that time period. I don't know how I developed my interest in science. I grew up just a normal household in which there were no scientist. They weren't doctors or scientists of any kind. And I enjoyed chemistry in high school and I liked math. And when I got to college I couldn't decide whether I was going to major in. Speech. And then I thought about microbiology and then I took chemistry and I had this great professor. He was a freshman chemistry teacher and he taught me and at the end of the semester and asked me what my clients were and told me I'd done very well in the course and so would I think coverage Nathan major in chemistry. So I did. And that was. When you were doing a. Yes that was and. I entered college in nineteen forty one. And I took freshman chemistry that year and that was of course then the war broke out. And so we went to school all year round. And so I graduated in three years. But by the time I was a junior there were no men so I was a laboratory assistant and analytical chemistry. And I just headed the semester before. And then they were recruiting women to teach. And that was here at the University of Texas. Yes. OK. So you decided to go on and do your masters. Yes. Mainly because as I had said to you earlier I didn't know what else to do. It was a question of going out and being a laboratory technician or something of that sort. And so I applied for a job. I don't know if I applied or was just offered a job group called the Clayton foundation biochemical Institute which was a research organization attached to the university. And had a very famous director Dr. Roger Williams who is one of the discovers of many of the B vitamins and he had this real interesting group of researchers mostly did research in B vitamins No. B One B6. All those and so he offered me a job as a technician a research technician and then I applied to go to graduate school at. The university. Of Texas at Austin. And. I. Started working toward my master's degree. And so your research then was also in vitamins. Yes we did what was called microbiological assays. These were set up where you used microorganisms to test for amounts of B vitamins the microorganisms required vitamins for growth and so you developed a medium that had. Missing one ME BY THEM AND THEN. WOULD ADD. Different amounts to the bottom and then make the organisms grow. And then you can measure the amount of that by them in a food or foods up on other things of that sort or how the vitamins functioned. That was the other thing that we did too. What else do you remember about that time period. How was. The environment for women. At that time. Well there were no men thing they were all off it or. And. So actually I think we were called into service and more than anything else because they were not men to the university. I first entered had 12000 students and by the end of the three years there were only six thousand students because all the men were off at war. And so we were we get all of things I mean we. We thought. And. Helped each other right. Of course it's. And. Then you went on to do your peacetime. No actually I. Then. Oh yes. Yes. I did. No. Now that I think about that. No I went to work. That's not true. I. Was to get my masters and we were still on trial semester so I would have. Gotten through in March. And I met my husband in November. At a Texas Texas thing and then football game. And that's important because that's a big college rivalry between two schools. I guess that's true of Iowa and Iowa State. Well Texas they N.M. and Texas have a big football rivalry. And I mean his two brothers but I've never met him before. So he was back from the service. So I was introduced in just the two. It was on Thanksgiving Day. And how did you know his brothers. They actually moved to Austin. While he was in medical school. So he had never lived in Austin. And so I've never met him because he'd been off at medical school on them residency and. Service. And so. He really. He and his two brothers were home for Thanksgiving because their father was ill. And so I met him. And. He claims he said to his brother maybe. What did you say that girl's name was. Stuff. That he called. And asked me out. And we were married like four. Months later. Oh is very love at first sight. Yeah. And I by that time got my master's in March of that year and we moved to Galveston where he was finishing his last year of residency and I went to work in the only G Y N department. Down there mainly because one of my professors and asked them his former roommate was a professor at Galveston. So he got me a job as a research scientist. So then after we moved back to Austin. At the end of that year. I went back to work for a Clinton Foundation about an million state as a research technician. And I worked with him I met the name of William Scheib. He just died this last year. And he was. Very famous for all the work he did in the function of the B vitamins. V12 folic acid. Board and. Things of that sort. And I will I was this sort of girl Friday and that's what we were in those days for about five or six years. And. Then. I decided I really needed to go back and get my PSP and by that time I had. One child. And. Our daughter missing was born in. Nineteen forty. Nine. And when she was uh. Oh I guess about three years old. I went back to school to get my Steve but I had been working at research for so many years it didn't take me very long to get to be a state. I just tend to take. All the. Preliminary courses in chemistry. In those days biochemistry was kind of the stepchild. Of. Chemistry. I mean we were. Considered by the chemist not to be chemists but we still had to take the preliminary exams and organic and physical and analytical. And then organic chemistry so you had to pass those in order to get a B and C so I decided that if I could pass the physical chemistry pity on him that I'd get a p h and if I didn't pass that that I'd quit. And that I would just quit being a biochemist. But I passed it just barely. And so then I got my pizza in 1954. And was awarded an Eli Lilly. Research postdoctoral research. So I did all of this at the University of Texas at Austin. I'm. Very inbred. Because I did my undergraduate work. I got a master's here and then staying here and did a postdoc. And then after that I went to work as a research scientist and Dr. Chavez group. And. I was there from 1956 to 1970. To. Fill. Out what 16 years and. I helped. Direct his graduate students and then did independent research and it was a wonderful time because I didn't have to raise any money or anything I could just go and run my research group and. Have graduate students without the responsibilities required to do that. So it's a very nice setup. But at that point he became chair of the chemistry department and was not there. A lot of the time. And so I really did have the responsibility of running. And then looking after the graduate students and then by that time. I had started working in. Other areas. We worked on enzymes and feedback inhibition of enzymes. And. Control. Of metabolism. How the. Part of a pathway goes back and stops the pathway at the very beginning. And. We did all these with using microorganisms. And. By that time. I. Was. Known. In. Other places. In. I was invited to give seminars. And. At different universities and. To. Be on the. Panel and set national meetings and things of that sort. And I was and. That was some time when they were beginning to put women on all the national committees on me and I committees and all the boards of. Editorial boards and biochemistry and journal Biological Chemistry. So I was being pretty busy. But I I was I had this research position a long tenure position at the university. And I. Really didn't think very much about it because it was all. Pretty. Interesting. But it was actually due to. Another woman who was a postdoc here in another laboratory and she came into my office one day and said to me it's all your fault and I said Why's it all my fault. What is all my fault. And she said there are no women members of. No women who have tenure. Track positions in. The. Chemistry department and it's all your fault. And I said Well I don't know why it's my thought. And she said well because I was told that if they were going to hire anybody they would hire you. And so as a result you're keeping other women from getting positions in that. Department. Well that really upset me and it upset me with regard to the chemistry environment because if they didn't want to hire me That was one thing. But to use me as an excuse. For not hiring other women I was really pretty annoyed about it. So I went to talk to some of the other people and some of the. Men. In the department. And actually it was very interesting. It wasn't. The older men in the department but the younger men in the department people who had moved here from elsewhere although I don't know that they came from departments and had women on the faculty. But they had worked with me at my position as a research scientist. And so they went to the department and said we don't understand why she's not a member of the faculty and they were the ones who proposed that I become a member of the faculty. So at that point I was appointed. An associate professor. Of biochemistry that's with tenure. I didn't go in as a full professor to begin with although some people thought I should I held out for that. But. I didn't really care. And so it worked out. Fine. So then. I became. The first. Woman member of the. Chemistry Department. And. I must say that once I got into the department. Once I was hired. As a professor. I couldn't have been more fairly treated. I mean they. There was no discrimination in. There. Everybody was very helpful very cooperative pleasant. I guess it was just breaking the barrier. Of getting in. That mattered. And. Of course when I came on as a faculty person then of course I had to teach. Which I had not done before. I mean I had given lectures and other people's courses but I had never put together. A course you know. And so I wound up teaching the undergraduate biochemistry course. Which is. For biochemistry majors premed prenatal students and it is a a very difficult course. In that. No one for the grade point average of the. Class is like 3 5. Out of. 4. Because these are all. Hardworking premiums you know. And so. I had never top a complete course because I got a court a set of notes from one of the other people who had done it a number of times. And then about four textbooks I started putting this course together. There were nights at 2:00 in the morning when I didn't have tomorrow's lecture ready so I would fall back on Dr. tiptoes notes at the end. But it was a marvelous experience. I never learned so much in my life. I did that year. But then of course. I get a little bit sorry for the students who made. Things. Harder than you think. Well yeah I didn't know what I didn't know and whether how to explain things and which were important. And so you know teaching is very different. Than doing research. I mean you're not just responsible to yourself. I mean you're responsible. And having that kind of class. They've demanded. That it be a very difficult cause. They wanted to learn as much as they could before they went to medical school. So that was quite an experience I think I got a little better at it and later developed instead of notes that I course model every year. But. Well in biochemistry you just can't sit back. I mean. We have a new textbook every two years and so you know there is stuff out now that wasn't even known or heard of or imagined. When I started teaching. And I must admit it was much more difficult. To. Teach. And do research at the same time because they're all I would say teaching a full time job. It certainly eats into. Your time. Plus the fact. That. I wound up being on a whole bunch of committees and stuff which I finally had to be much more selective was otherwise an effort to get. Women on all the editorial boards and women on all. And its committees. You can spend all your time. Doing that and be accomplished. I know and you know it takes you a while to understand that you have to say no. And I think a lot of women got caught in that. And they wound up of course men get caught into it. It's very flattering to be eyes to be on a. Panel. Know our. Advisory committee or something of that sort. And. That happens the men too. And it really hurts your research in that you don't have the time. To do on that. So during this time you have how many children. I have. Two children. They are five and a half years apart. I. When I had missing I stayed home for two months. And then went back to work part time. Steve stayed home for two weeks. But then. But times were different then too. I mean we were very fortunate in that we had. Very very good domestic help in comparison to. Now were so difficult. I mean I had a full time housekeeper. Who came to work at 8:00 in the morning and. Left at 7:00 at night. And she was a very good cook and she fixed dinner and we sat down and had dinner every night at six thirty. And. Somehow or other I have skipped. An important part here and that's the role that my husband played in all of this. He was a very. Ahead of his time person. This is 1945 1946 when we met. And. He not only didn't have any objections to my working I was really happy that I was working. And he was perfectly willing for me you know to get. Help and we were fortunate too. In that after the first year he was in. A medical practice. I mean we made enough money. To where I could afford. That sort of help. Yeah. Well after his first year in medical practice. We made enough money to where I could afford. Help. And so. Let's see Missy our daughter was born three years after we were married. And by that time we could afford. Domestic help and. Things were different. And I didn't have to rely on daycare centers and things of that sort. And he was very supportive. Emotionally and then so far as taking care of the kids you know not too much housework he never was much in the housework or yard work but. We could afford to have it done. And that's very different. Today. And that women. Have to juggle not only their careers. But. And some men are real helpful at running. The House and all that stuff and others aren't. And so that makes a big. Difference. And he certainly always encouraged me like when I decided to go back and get my THC. I mean we had been married at that time for probably about five years. And he encouraged me to do that. And never objected to. Like. I would take trips DNI or the medical meetings or things of that sort. In fact it turned out to be great because we used to meet sometime he would go to a medical meeting and I would go about chemistry meeting and then we'd meet in New York for the weekend. And that was really nice because we could afford that we would take the kids on like one big vacation year and then we would have a vacation year without it. So. That. Was good. And so on. And. You had this help with your children. Yeah. And. They grew up and they're professionals. Right. Our daughter has a PHC and educational psychology but she actually practices clinical psychology with Kaiser in. California. She was married and has two children. I have. A granddaughter Emily who is 26 and a grandson Jeremy who is 21 and. He. Is. A junior. In college. And then. I have a son Steve. Who didn't get married until he was like in his forties and so he has. Twin girl boy twins that are five years old. So we have grandchildren and great grandchildren sort of all in one generation which is very nice. Our daughter lives in San Diego. And. Steve our son who is a lawyer lives here. And it's really interesting we always laugh about the fact that neither one of them took a chemistry course when they went to. They took physics and they took biology but then I got a strange. Did you ever worry when they were growing up. That their development because you were a working. Professor. No. There were people you know in those days who would in a sense say how can you were talking you leave your children and have you know how many you know they're being well cared for. And. We had a friend who taught me was a professor of psychology and he once said to me you know it's not the quantity of time you spend with your kids it's the quality. And it is true. I remember clearly coming home sometime in the afternoon like five thirty or six o'clock and being very tired and I my next door neighbor would be out in the backyard and I'd come up the back stairs their house. And I had to stand there and listen to her cry for 20 minutes about what a horrible day she and. Her kids see that. No I actually enjoy seeing our kids and it's true that when you work all day. I mean you're really happy to see your kids. And. I'm not saying that everything is perfect but I mean I we got along just fine. And. You know we spent a lot of time with him. Because of the fact that I did work and my husband worked long hours too. We. Very specifically spent time with him. We took them on vacations we went places with them we. You know supported whatever. They were both swimmers. We went to swim meets for years and years and years you know and over time that swim meets and stuff. So no. I. I think they knew we were there for them. And that we spent. A fair amount of quality time. With them. And besides. The family are balancing. Their. Membership in other organizations and going to conferences etc.. How did you do that. The one I did that when it had to do if my work. Now that's the one thing and I see that now because now I do volunteer work and I see young women. Who are trying to balance their professions and their marriages and do volunteer work. I didn't do any volunteer work. I did not work with the girl scouts or Boy Scouts or any other really good productive organization. I couldn't do that. You have to restrict. You only had so much time and energy so I spent all my time on my work and. Organizations related to my work and then my kids and related so what they did. Not true. I mean I always went to the PTA meetings but I was never president of the PTA. I mean I just didn't have time for that. And I do see women now. Trying to do that. And they miss meetings they can't do it. It's just too complicated. So I think you have to pick and choose. And I after I got over my business of saying yes to every scientific organization that I just wanted to be on the border. I got to the point where I said No I'm sorry. I just don't have time to do that. And you just really have to pick and choose. Now that was the one thing my husband I always had a social life. I mean we went to concerts and the plays and to all. Of. You. Know it's the same business though that if you're busy you're pretty well organized and you know it's that old saying if you want something done you ask the busiest person in the room. And that's true to a large extent because you just can't afford to dilly dally away time. And I've been fortunate too and. That is that I've always been. Moderately good health. And. And physically. Fairly strong. My daughter just looks at me every now and then says you just make me tired looking at you you know. But I mean I've always just been lucky in that I have a lot of energy. You know. And so. I don't really mind. And. You assume. It's. Thinking about your your career life. You met several women. That you. You work. With three new ads. To various organizations. One of these women with the ring. Magic. Yes. Tell me about her. Yes yes yes. This is really interesting. Laurie Rogers later became president the University of Texas at Austin. She started out. As a woman. She was married to a chemist an organic chemist who was killed in an industrial accident. And then she was widowed. And after that she went back to graduate school in English and then she decided no that's not what you wanna do. So she came back to Texas where she was from and where he had gotten his degree in organic chemistry and she got a degree in organic chemistry and then was going to be about chemistry. Most days the chemistry department didn't hire women. She's about 10 years older than I. So she and another woman who had also majored in biochemistry went to Sam Houston State Teacher's College which is a small college. North. West I guess or east of Houston near Houston. And they both taught nutrition in the home economics department there and then they came back to Austin. And. Her friend Margaret became a professor of nutrition and she became the assistant director of the Clayton Foundation about gun point Stuart. So she went on up the ladder. And. Nutrition and administration and eventually became president of the University of Texas at Austin. I think she may have been. One of the first women. To be the president of a large state university. She. She and I used to laugh about the fact that we were always roommates when we'd go to the federation meetings the Federation of American Association of biological chemists. In an Atlantic City because we were very careful to get this definitely went to the meetings and we wore high heels and if you've ever tried to walk on the boardwalk in Atlantic City in high heels you know they get caught between the boards. But we just kind of tiptoe their way down the lane because we really felt very strongly that that women biochemists didn't have to look like the terror that took her. Know. Look of the woman scientist then clunky shoes and you know an old beat up sweater and stuff like that. So we were very careful about the way we dress to. You had two meetings. And. I mean she did that you know. Later of course when she was ministrations she was always impeccably dressed and. Handled herself extremely well. To. Somebody else too became and university president Mary Sue Coleman. Oh see. I did a postdoc with you. Yes. OK. So she's another example of women who just kind of manage to get to the right place at the right time and so she was a wonderful host I see obtained here from North Carolina and our husband had taken a position at the University in our town very close to Austin and she had an NIH fellowship and work in our lab and she is a delightful person lovely bright but just. Just fun to be around. And when she was here she actually. Had. Her one and only son who was born while she was a postdoc here in Austin. But her husband was not happy at this small college and got a really good offer in Kentucky. So she went from as she was able to change her and eight fellowship where she could complete it at Kentucky. She went to work and I'm sorry I can't remember the name of the man that she worked with there. And she sort of started on the same. Pathway that I did and then she was a research scientist at Kentucky and did not have a faculty position or husband then but she did. And they were interviewing four people for a position that was open in the department of biochemistry at the University of Kentucky. And she looked at all the people who were coming through and she thought well you know I'm as good as they are. So she went in for the job. Well she only got the job. You think. That she just went straight up the ladder after that. I mean she went from assistant professor on up to full professor and then was head of a cancer institute there and then has went from Kentucky to Arizona and now she's at the University of Iowa and she see there what the president of the Chancellor. Sure. So she's have a whole university of. And she is. A really wonderful person. And somebody else you work with. Maryanne Fox. Well I said I didn't really work with her but she was the second woman in the chemistry department. She was the second one to come after. Me. And I love to tell the story about we had a budget Council which is responsible for hiring and new faculty and for determining promotions and things of that sort. And they had a committee and they had picked five people to come in to be interviewed for a position that was open and one department. And so I went to the budget council meeting that had to do with who they were going off the job. And the person in charge of the committee said that when they had. Picked these five people to come they had write them to begin with you know one through five. One being the top and finding the lowest. And he said that and of the five. One was a woman and he said I want to tell you all that that that after the people came and were interviewed and and things of that sort the person who was in the fifth position. When we first started considering them in our opinion moved up to the first position after we heard what they were going through and what they had to you know what they had done in just meeting with the faculty and everything. And he said and that person was Marianne Fox who was the woman and one woman out of the five. And he said we did not start out to hire a woman. And he said now maybe Joy it's not going to like this but that's not what our plan was. We just brought these people in and then we write them before and after. And I said to him I don't know why you would have to. You would think I would object to that because that's the way I think it ought to be done. You picked her because you thought she was the best of the five. Not because she was woman. So she then came on faculty and then went for me an assistant professor to a full professor and chaired professor and then had huge grants. And I think somebody gave me how many million dollars to like the project she was working on here. And then she was offered positions all over the country but she accepted the position as I think it's president of the University of North Carolina State University at the wrong. She was also president. Oh yes. So that's three university presidents that you have known. Oh yes that's true. I mean she's a president. She didn't go there is a professor. Oh no no no. She's head of the university. I mean. Yeah no I love a fair number of the women that I work with have gone on to become full professors but I'm trying to think of it the others have become presidents. I'm not sure about that one young woman who was a postdoc and. Went to the University of North Carolina after she finished her first year started out as an assistant professor Carolina Chapel Hill but she decided that administration was not her. So she is back to being a full professor of. Law. Well that's a chemistry biochemistry department. Yeah I should say. That. It's kind of interesting because. Texas. Was unusual in that we did not have a separate biochemistry chemistry department. There weren't that many departments. In the country. That were. Where biochemistry was part of chemistry. Texas is and North Carolina. That's interesting. There is the Department of Chemistry and chemistry. Too. So there might be others throughout departments. Throughout the. Country but. I don't know a. Lot. Of. These women and that we were just talking about and have received wide recognition for what they've done. Have you received recognition for your work in. The position that you. Certainly want to various or no. Not many. No. No. 0 1. Yes. I was made an actual Smith professor. Here at the university. And then is given to. People. Who. Are considered to be very good teachers. In addition to whatever their. Work is you know their research. And so I was real pleased with that. It's it's a shared professorship that doesn't carry much extra with it. But it is an honor and that they it's to award people that I think do a good job of undergraduate. Teaching. And. Of course that's them. That's. Very rewarding to. Do. Undergraduate. And since. You've. Mentioned that you've also advised. Still you lost a particularly female student. No not particularly female students. Although it is true that female students particularly from other departments. Chemistry Palmer I think was always very fair. And I don't know if I mentioned that once I became a member of the chemistry department once and broke the barrier. I. Was very fairly through. The chemistry part of it. I mean. When I. Read so. Many requests I made where I thought handled. Very fairly. And I was not dumped on from the standpoint of teaching. I did not teach any more than anybody else did which is something unfortunately what happens to women. Very often women work in a. Much every year teaching loads than them. And. I wasn't I mean. It was. Heavy enough but I taught an undergraduate course every year and a graduate course every other semester. So. That was. Certainly. I thought. Enough to be one of the early research but no. But I used to have women come from other departments. I thought that was always kind of interesting ones that would have trouble with their supervising professors or didn't feel they were being fairly treated. They did. They came. And occasionally someone would just appear at my office and say I. Don't like to talk to you. And. OK so. Since you've been at the University of Texas and. We're at the University of Texas for. Quite a long time to quote you got your education there and you weren't there I'm sure you've seen many changes during that time. Can you talk a little bit about that and particularly the changes in his second stances of women. Well I can't talk about that mostly so far as the chemistry department and that is that that a.. I don't remember how many years it was after I was maybe a member of the department that Marian Parks was five members of parliament and since that time there were. Three other women with him in my. Department. I really don't know specifically about other departments. I do know in microbiology that woman the. Chair of the department was a woman in the last. Five or 10 years and they have quite a number of women members of their department. But I. Know I Don't Know. Specifically about. The other department that team does after. You talked earlier a little bit about. A reward ceiling and that impact. And what about the impact of the women's movement in the 70s. Particularly. Affirmative action and those kind of policies. How did that affect. The situation. I really don't have any firsthand knowledge of this. I think this goes along with the fact to be perfectly honest that I was so busy. Doing what I had to do such as research and teach that I really never got very much involved. In. Various causes. This was true of my personal life too in the sense that I just. Had so much media spread so far and so I never really got. Very active and didn't really keep up and I was. Oh I was only on one national committee that had to do with women and science. I think it was part of the Federation. And I don't even remember what we did or what we accomplished. You know I guess in my particular case I really feel that look. The biggest contribution I have to make. To that. Was being a role model. For other women and I was married I didn't have children I didn't have a very nice position even if I didn't win know like national awards or stuff like that. And then there's this is what they wanted to do that they could do it. And I did try to counter. Actually a movement that was started by women that I really was opposed to and that is that you can't have it all and that you have to give up and you can't be married you can't have children you can't do this you can't do that if you want to be tops in your field. Well I don't like that message. And so I think it's everybody's choice. If they want to give up that much of their personal life and choose to do that. That's fine. But I don't like. Women being told You can't. Be a professor you can't be a research scientist. And have. A private life too. I just don't. Like for them to be told that. And they can decide how much they want to give up of each side how much. You're willing to settle for about not breaking the glass ceiling and how much you do or do not want to have a family and it's your choice. But I don't want them to be told they can't and if they want to try her every bit of it fine. You know. I do think I feel strongly that men should have been told somewhere along the line that this was one thing I did resent when I first started out. Some people say to me how can you continue to work. Shouldn't you be home taking care of your children stuff. And I always resented the fact that they never said anything to the men in the department. Who worked every night and who worked weekends. And unfortunately some of. Their children turned out. To. Not very well. And I just wonder how much their lack of being a father. Had to contributed to their children situation. Something else that you've mentioned is you believe very strongly in. Looking at some of his qualifications. Not at. All. In terms of. Deciding to hire somebody based on if they have disadvantages in the background or et cetera. Can you tell me a little bit more about your philosophy. On that. No I'm not really sure what you mean. I just think you have to look at their background. And see what their strengths are and it's true that in every department there are some people who are better teachers. There are some people who are better researchers. There are some who are very good at both. And unfortunately this is the third quarter. Now I don't know. I'm not real sure what the question is. And. So. Do you feel that you've been able to accomplish what you wanted to or where there's some things that you would have liked to accomplish that you denied. Well I think there are always things you would like to accomplish that you did not. But. Overall. I'm very happy with my life. I mean I feel that I was extremely fortunate. And I have a. Husband that I know not only liked a lot. But who was very supportive. I have two wonderful children four wonderful grandchildren. And I got to do work that I really loved doing. I love working in a research lab. I love working with the students and I must say that is the thing that I miss the most. Now that I'm retired. It isn't so much the work. It's the interaction with the students. They're wonderful. I mean you know they're so different. And sometimes our philosophy is so entirely different. And particularly now that is you know it's a typical generational thing that we think well they don't work as hard as what you did but you still are. Inspired and energized and. Interacting with with young people. And that I really do miss. I miss in lecturing. I mean you can lecture like do 10 lectures and it's fine. You covered all the material and you made it through the time and everything but now nothing special happens. One day you walk in there and you give a lecture and you swear to pee you can just see the light on in their head. That doesn't happen. Every day. And that makes you feel so good as you walk out of the room. And you know you know you just turn on a light and somebody say. And interestingly enough one of my biggest problems after I retired was what was there to do with the rest of our life you know. And this is something you and I have not discussed at all. And so I am never been in the volunteer field because I didn't have time to do that and I I'm very carefully tried not to take on more than I can handle. So I tried to enter the volunteer world. I called the high schools and I offered to tutor in math and science. They never called me back. I went to Children's Advocacy and they had me Xeroxing stuff and I thought this is not for me. And finally I got back to an organization that I had been connected with very short time and that was reading is fundamental. It's an organization that gives free books to children and from economically deprived backgrounds in schools it's elementary schools that are where the majority of the parents are below the poverty level. I started working with this organization. And it was almost as thrilling as teaching somebody by chemistry. I mean you walk into a school and some little kid comes running up to you throws their arms around your knees and said it's the real lady she's going to come give us free books you know. And this interesting thing happened to me is that we do a little motivational activities when we put the books out for them. They choose the book it's their book they take it home it's theirs forever. And if I hadn't had this feeling since I had actually retired insofar as the teaching part but we read stories to them of the books sometimes the books that we have put out. And I was reading this there's the story about. It had to do with where words come from and how it's called Friendly. I never even heard of this book. And I read the book before I read it to them. And so then I proceeded to tell them a story. And I sat there and here were these little. Fourth grade kids just absolutely fascinated sitting there. And the lights went on in their hair and swear it was just this lovely wonderful feeling. That you had had an effect on somebody. So I guess really that I just have been very lucky in that sense that I really enjoyed teaching those big undergrad courses and biochemistry. And it just sort of basically you kind of feel like you made a difference to someone every now and then a student will come back and say I'm so glad I had that biochem course in undergraduate school because it was so easy for me. You know in medical school or they'll come back and they say every now and then I'd go back and look at your notes you know and I find this stuff. And that's the reward really when it comes right down to it. And something else that you've been doing in your retirement and I believe is collecting art. Oh Dale we did that before. Oh yeah. Now. That the I had the collecting art and then I read a lot I read junk you know total job. Mostly mystery stories you know like that. And and yeah it's nice. I love the travel. I love to go places. And I have a very good friend. I didn't tell you about this at all. I'm one of the nicest times it wasn't so. That it was great scientifically it was great. Personally as I spent three months in Paris at the University of Paris seven and I worked with this wonderful woman named Annalise Amy. She's Swiss but she's been in Paris for many many years and it was such a joy to work with that woman. I mean she just had this wonderful attitude. Did marvelous research and all the people that worked for with her just adored her. And what kind of research did you. Well I actually was passing by was synthesis which is what I did for about the last five years or so that I did research. And they they had some viruses and it was translating the viral messenger RNA is in and what was found in vitro system where you do it in testing and. But the science was fine. But the other part. That I've learned from her just how to be a wonderful person was just fabulous. It really was. And so that's one nice thing of your positions too is that you get to go meet such interesting people. I think the people I met online can I study sex and tell someone we're not nice. But both of them are really interesting people. You know you just wouldn't have gotten to know them otherwise. You mentioned earlier. That you've seen so many changes and actually rapidly biochemistry. Where do you think that's going now. That hold hands. That is just I can't imagine. I mean I really do believe that they will be able like if you're a diabetic and don't make insulin or I'm just trying to pick easy examples that the time will come when with some virus they'll be able to enter that gene into your genomes and then you will. They'll be able in that sense to not necessarily repair a defective gene but replace it. And that just blows your mind. Really. I think that's much more exciting than the cloning of a person or a sheep or whatever you know. But just to be able to treat diseases. Once it was about like somebody who's a schizophrenic and there's a particular enzyme. That they're deficient in and that's why they're schizophrenic. And if you can embed that enzyme. Into. Their brain cells. Gosh I mean that's incredible. That and I really don't think we've been we know I think neurobiology just in general how the brain works. And as I told you earlier my husband has Alzheimer's. And when you realize that there are parts of the brain that do this and parts of the brain that do that. And if you can repair are people who have strokes or things of that sort. You. Know how the brain in the various parts of the brain interact with other parts of the brain or how you can replace function. You know they know that in a way because five people have strokes and they lose the ability do something. Another part of the brain learns how to do it. We need to understand that. And so I think neurobiology or neuro biochemistry. Oh. That would be fabulous. Really what it. Sounds like you enjoy your career and your life isn't. And I've certainly enjoyed this interview with you. Are there any questions that I should have asked that I missed. Probably but you do then. But no I that's one bad thing the memory does begin to go though. Thank you very much. I enjoyed it. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73098/file/158938#t=0.0,2907.742"}]}]}]}