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And sometimes you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2440.56,2444.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guys do back the wrong horse and that America is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2444.88,2448.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"known to have backed the wrong horse all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2448.57,2451.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that you probably should question who your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2451.51,2453.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cisco State is backing these days in in South","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2454.09,2457.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Africa. 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What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2457.48,2461.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the other part of your question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2461.26,2462.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well if you see here in in when I came to this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2466.27,2470.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"country and I want to talk about this country I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2470.41,2472.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't want to gossip about Germany and Britain and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2472.21,2475.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so on. I could do that later on. But I'll stick to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2475.57,2478.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Americans now. When I came here when things","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2478.48,2482.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are not on TV the problem is solved here. 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You know the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2491.02,2493.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"problem is solved. It's not on TV number one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2493.78,2496.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Number two there's a sense that sometimes people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2497.02,2501.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't really question a lot what's on TV. 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But as I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2627.1,2630.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talking to him he said to me you would make a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2630.28,2632.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pencil bomb. Now he's 10. I said gee you know I. 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And I say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2648.55,2651.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gee do I want to the home before I throw it. He","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2651.7,2655.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"says no don't be crazy. You shake and shake it a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2655.18,2657.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bit. You know he keeps telling me a ten year old","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2657.43,2661.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how to be more effective in being destructive","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2661.42,2664.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when children are asked in South Africa. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2666.31,2668.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's not on TV. You see when children ask in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2668.74,2672.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"South Africa. It's been specifically in the last","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2672.25,2675.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"few years. What do you want for Christmas. I want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2675.49,2679.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a machine gun or an AK 47 and you're going to do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2679.15,2681.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. Shoot the soldiers. Now you cannot I don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2681.82,2686.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think any parents would want to trade the children","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2686.5,2688.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to say such things but that. Environment. Does","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2688.63,2692.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that watch over. And maybe we shouldn't even try","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2692.92,2696.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and get them out of that because it's the way they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2696.07,2698.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"survive when they wake up they are hippos and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2698.08,2701.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kaspar's industry. And that's the reality. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2701.05,2705.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those are the kind of things that's not on TV. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2705.52,2707.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yet again I said what I say again. I didn't say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2707.95,2710.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well the other thing was right. But these are the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2710.86,2714.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things that people need to know because we want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2714.52,2716.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you to be so indignant about apartheid. We want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2716.83,2720.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you to be so indignant that your government is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2720.4,2723.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"having dealings with America that you will not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2723.58,2726.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"allow them. That's what we want you to do. We want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2726.7,2729.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you to be so indignant that our humanity and our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2729.37,2732.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dignity and our equality is well taken seriously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2732.49,2734.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you cannot be indignant when you when you see","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2735.88,2738.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the wrong things. I hope to have answered your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2738.22,2741.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"question and told you I cannot answer this short","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627#t=2741.85,2745.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105627/transcript/22559/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way. Right. 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You have children who are stunted. They're not just hungry but they are stunted because of long term hunger and repression. So that when we speak I wanted to not just see it as something that we're doing because we interested in South Africa because to me this in some way is part of the revolution because revolution deals with changing. It deals with sort of revolve doesn't it. Therefore it's important in our struggle that even you change. And if you change your government's policy we hope towards South Africa will change. And if your government's policy towards Africa will change some things will change for us so that this is not just a speech or just talking but it's something that I'm trying to engage you with so that you can become more involved as a person in the whole process for liberation in our country. It's also a very emotional process so that it's kind of difficult to be all scientific and theoretical. I know that because my family and in most of South Africans families who are inside that you know people who are here South Africans as families at home it is an emotional thing. And I want you to see it as that. It's a very very heavy discussion because it's a discussion that leads with life and death. What I would like to do with you because your theme for this week deals with revolution and social change. I would like to help you through the process of how we as South Africans have moved from reformist to revolutionary thinking and that it has been a very long process for us. One of the reasons why I also do that is because a lot of times in American public just because people here have heard about the South African situation for the last five years perhaps the last four years they feel it's a new thing. Well it's not a new thing. The liberation movement in South Africa have been I have been there even before the Soviet Union became the Soviet Union. So I just wanted to see that what I'm talking about is a process and that this process that we are involved with now which I say we are at a revolutionary stage have gone through different stages and we have reacted differently in the different stages. I'm going to talk specifically about four stages. We started with revolutionary. I mean the reformist thinking we had then there was like a kind of revolt thinking it's people who are revolting against. Then we went through a process of resistance. And I think now I would say that we in the process of revolution and it's important that you see it like that because we have grown. And as you grow in your understanding of social change and what you want as a person and as a nation you will see that your thought patterns about freedom liberation equality what justice is what economics what politics is. It goes through this what I would call the spectrum from from reform to revolution. Also one of the reasons one of the things that I really would like to just touch on a little bit as I speak to with you tonight is just people's ideas of Africa. We've been told and I think I mean Africans have been taught we've been taught that we are poor as Africans. We've got nothing. We have a barrier. You know we are sort of a little bit uncultured that we need Western culture to become better. You know all these kind of negative things. And when it came to the US I was kind of surprised you know when I told someone yes I'm Jane's sister or James cousin. You know Jane Townsend they. I thought they believed me. But there's a real sense that people do not have an understanding of Africa. And you have an understanding of Africa which is in the interest of your state. And it's not in the interests of us as Africans. And I also want you to see that and begin to make it feel a little bit about uncomfortable about what you feel and perceive Africa to be and perceive Africans to be because we probably not what you think we are. But that was just by the way. Now go to the body of of of what I'm going to say. And again. I'll go back to the process we've gone through. We've gone through the process what I've called from reform to revolution. And of course as I said as I say the progression and see the progression. I am very excited to be part of the generation that is within the generation that has revolution in thinking in that event in trouble. I'm going to start in nineteen hundred and twelve not because it's a magical date but because you have to start somewhere. And something very important has happened in our country. In nineteen hundred and twelve in nineteen hundred and twelve the ANC was formed the African National Congress. But we during the period when the ANC was formed I would say that they were kind of more reformist at that time. Why do I say that. I say that they've been reformers because when you look at the statements that the ANC made at the time they were more saying that we want to be part of the political process. We want to have a vote. We want to have more say about our rights. And if you look at the rhetoric of the ANC at the time they were not in essence saying that the government was illegal. They may have thought it but they have not said it so that they said we would like to have more rights in parliament we want to have the vote so that it wasn't really specifically challenging the state as a state at the time now. And in that in in in the 30 years after that can find that there was lots of delegation sent to the government saying and normally if you send a delegation to someone it's normally because you've you feel that person can change things for you isn't it. Or you recognise the authority so that at this stage we kind of recognised in some way in a name where I think the authority and said we would like this we want that. We don't want this. We don't like what you're doing. But we went and at the time also the people who did that were mostly the the people who were teachers or doctors or or lawyers in our community at the time. Now I'm going to skip from 1912 1920 area when we did sort of consistently this type of thing and go to the 1950s. Something very very exciting happened in the 1950s. You find that in the in then in the late 40s the youth within the ANC became more radical. The people who were the youth at that time was people like Nelson Mandela and all and civil where all those kind of people were the people who were the youth. And it was at the time that they were beginning probably to talk about. We've been doing nonviolent change all the time but it's not working. So there's sort of ferment and talking you know within the movements. Also what is but what is really exciting is that at that time during the 50s in the 60s the South African government was trying to get women who never until this point in time tried to get women to carry passbooks. And the plus book is a very very terrible thing to carry. In South Africa because it's inflects control it controls who can live in the city. If you have a prospect as a black person it tells the police or the people that you're looking for. In the book it says where you work. Were you born. Whether you have a right to be in that place. If you have if you employed. If you're not employed normally you cannot work in a place where you were not born or if you didn't live there consistently for 15 years. There's all kinds of rules and regulations. What you know within the possible. But in the 50s women didn't have to carry the passport. And at this in the late 50s the sort of early 50s the South African government gave its intention that it wanted South African women black women to carry the passbook men. By this time already for a long time since the beginning of the century have been carrying passports. So they've been used to carrying passports. The women knew what passbooks meant. They meant it. They knew it. Breg broke down families. They knew it was a very very negative thing in the life of a family. So then what. I said it was an exciting time. So what was so exciting about carrying a passport when it happened during this period is that for the first time we began to change our tactics. You find that people didn't just send delegations to the government. They began to be involved in great big acts of civil disobedience. I want to read you a quotation from a research paper that someone did during this period. It's a bit long. So don't fall asleep. It says protest against the pass laws was not an innovation of the 50s. The African National Congress the ANC had been organizing opposition to this legislation since its founding in 1912. The. Significance of the campaigns of the 1950s lay in the adoption of new strategies for bringing about fundamental change. For the first time and Depass protesters employ techniques of mass action strikes boycotts and civil disobedience on a wide scale wide scale abandoning the constitutional appeals petitions and end departures deputations that have characterized the ANC protests for more than 40 years. But also what is exciting about this period especially for women was that it was the women who were spearheading this. It was the women who were organizing women in small groups. They were. It was during this period for the first time that we had a National Women's Federation. Women were organizing at local groups at city groups regional groups national groups. It was during this period that about 20000 women marched to Pretoria saying we are this deep. We won't carry. It is possible to be a burning out passbooks. Not if anyone would try and get even 10 women to walk in the same direction at the same time. It's a kind of a difficult thing to organize them to do that. Now what about twenty thousand women so that if anyone tells me it was a spontaneous they think again you'll never get 20000 women spontaneously walking in the same direction at the same time. So there was a sense that women were organizing other women. They were at this time also within the ranks of the of the ANC. There was also campaigns within the ANC and at the time also the PSC where they were campaigning against the principles. But what was exciting and I want to go back to my say from the beginning we started with reformers thinking now it was kind of the revolt. People began to realize that whatever you do all these deputations in what was and what was we've been doing didn't work. Perhaps we need to use another strategy. But also it was perhaps because people were maturing beginning to realize that their liberation and whatever problem that they have is within themselves. Also during this period the late 60s within the ANC there was there was some some friction in terms of people's political understanding. There was some people who said that as black people we need to work alone. And then there were other people who said we need to include white people. It was during this time that also became a split between the ANC and you had the Pan Africanist Congress of Zambia. And you had the African National Congress. It was during this period that the South African government when there was all this resistance against the passed laws it was also during this period did the first of May in 1960 when the sharp fall event happened when there was a big demonstration in shopfloor men women and children were marching to the to the police station saying that they refused to carry passports where the where the police shot these people from from behind. You could see that they were already running away from the police when the police shot them. And even today the 21st of March is a very important day of of remembering people who've been who gave their lives for our liberation. We will which we will have soon. So that during this period there was a real sense of activity. There was a real sense of differences a real sense of of political excitement even within the people. Now how did the South African government respond to this. What they did was they they they banned the African National Congress. They banned the Pan Africanist Congress. It was during this time that people like Mbeki Nelson Mandela went to jail. A lot of women were put in jail at that time also. So that what the government did was to suppress people. A lot of people got missing. A lot of people were killed. But but what I'm trying to portray here is that what June this period where was the way of expressing our political disgust. Satisfaction was in a revolt fashion. The South African government the only way they can they can deal with us was to kill to put into jail. They also declared the first state of emergency. Then this. An African government thought that they've dealt with us. Now we'd know if ever we try and be big for our shoes. They put us in jail and therefore we won't do anything. You'll find that in the 60s there was a kind of a relative quiet but it wasn't very quiet because within the late 60s and the 70s the movement that became very strong during that period was the black consciousness movement. What is so exciting about this movement specifically because it was a movement that was beginning to. Deal with with us as people where we work. If you look at the educational system in South Africa and if you look at the educational system of all colonial states anyhow you'll find that it's been in the interest of those people who are pressing others to define that way. For example Africans are told that they are like this or like that or like that. What we've been told is black people in our country. Is that as black people we don't really know how to rule ourselves. Black people. We are lazy black. You know all the negative things we would told that to be black is really a terrible thing. So that's how we were educated and we began to believe this. Now what was important in the 60s and in the during the era of the 60s with within the black consciousness movement was that we were beginning to say but who tells us who we are. We need to begin to say to ourselves who we are. And it's during this period and probably the same thing happened during the civil civil rights movement here where people began to say that black is good. Black is beautiful. Black is right. If you're not black. Try and get black. You know if you want to be in you need to be black. You know there was a sense that they did the term black became something very very exciting. And during this period with the rise of the black consciousness movement and a sense of people beginning to decide for themselves who we were we beginning to say this is who we are. I think at the same time some questions were propping up you'll find in 74 75 76 specifically where I think maybe subconsciously the young people would were asking well if it's is to be black is good wonderful marvelous precious why is it that my parents are looking hard and they never get rich. Why is it as black people we can never own land. Why is it that we are living in hovels. Why is it that we are told we poor we work hard. The white man sits and watch how we work. He gets rich. We we we get poorer. So then I think these questions really commended in terms of people's understanding of themselves which was positive. And you'll find in in in 1976 when the South African government was trying to get black people again to to do their education in Afrikaans. It's like people here don't do the education in French do they. They do it in English. Now it if you may all be very bright. I'm sure you are. You must be very clever. Now if you don't know anything about French and I ask you one plus one in French now you may be very bright but you won't get it right isn't it. I can ask you what your name is in French. You may know your name but you won't get it right. So that there's a sense that the South African as black people we've been doing our education in English all the time. Suddenly the South African government just to show how strong they will wanted students again to do their education in Afrikaans. And I think it was the right thing students that we will not do this. So but this didn't just happen in isolation. You know the student revolt this educational crisis and we are still within an educational crisis in our country. It came out of the history of our struggle. What happened in 2012. What happened in the 60s. What happened in the 50s. But now at this time was happening within the black consciousness movement. This whole sense of we are okay. And if I'm okay I need to live. OK. And since that period you had a real sense of resistance. I think the key word when people spoke about South Africa and the liberation struggle at that time was that there was a resistance. You know people didn't again talk about revolt or reform. The government always talks about reform. It's natural. But we were at that time they were talking about the students resistance the resistance movement. And this was very very exciting. And it really is because that momentum has never stopped. There's still these students are struggling with what is education. What is the education. The. The slogans that we are struggling with presently is do we have education for liberation or do we have liberation before education. So these are the kind of educational things that we are struggling with. And this educational process or this struggle and resistance has never stopped. But also once again how did the government respond to this. How did the government respond to people's resistance today. Oppression. Well. The black consciousness movement was banned at the time. The same as the ANC and the Keesey previously was banned. A lot of other organizations church organizations were banned. Anyone who dared to do anything different at the time were banned. Many people were under house arrest at that time. There were many people who were put in jail. Also during 76 and especially early 80s it was fashionable in our country that people died in detention and the government would say that they would commit suicide and all those kind of things. So that once again you find. How does the government respond to people's resistance to them is to oppress them more. To kill him more. More and more people got lost. Missing. A lot of people had to run out of the country because the police were harassing them. But also what I wanted to see is that in the 60s it was the women who were in a sense highlighting the struggle at the time in the in the in the 50s the late 60s in the 70s. The group that highlighted the struggle were more like the university students at that time. People like Steve People and his contemporaries were university students. But in the set in the late 70s in the 76 to 80 the group that were highlighting the struggle were not just the university students it was the high school students. You find standard not even high school children in fourth grade saying we're not going to school. I mean children in fourth grade making a decision. They're not going to school. Their parents would give them a whacking here. But at home being that the parents know these kids say they're not going to school probably there's something else bigger than what they are discussing have been happening so that you find that the more and more people are getting involved in this struggle as the struggle is continuing that it's not just that when the women were highlighting the struggle they didn't just stop. They continued. So that in in the in the period of the 70s and the early 80s you'll find that new student movements were rising. You had SACEUR Slosson Zao so you had all kinds of student movements coming up during that period. And it was very very important for us. It was very uncomfortable that the students should highlight the struggle at that time. And that's the strike. What I call the time of real resistance in our country. Now in the early 80s you'll find what's been happening is that the trade union movement had been growing in our country. I mean there's not I'm sure if you people are reading the newspaper in the newspapers by of Africa the thing that comes to mind presently is trade union movement. I mean there's either strike or a strike there or something like that. But within the in the early 80s even to now you find the growth of the trade union movement. Just two months ago the National Union of Mineworkers were having a terrific strike. Of course there were people who died and all those kind of things. But you find that this trade union movement have been growing. But what is exciting about the period that we are in now is that you'll find that the trade union the trade union is saying that we need to take seriously. The youth of say we need to take the women seriously. The women are saying we need to take the church seriously. The churches are saying if we are not taking seriously what the people are saying we won't survive. So they're into survival tricks these days which means they have to be more revolutionary what they even want to be. And Armitage peson. So I feel I could say that. So that this what is what is so exciting about this moment in our history which I call that the moment. And it could be a long moment. You know the moment of revolution where we've moved again I go back to what I want imprinted in your head. We've moved from reformist thinking to a revolt type of activity and to a resistance movement. But now we I think in the process of revolution and in the process of revolution is when all the forces are beginning to take each other seriously. But I mean the South African government isn't slipping you know. They are also doing they're not in 1985. They declared the first state to be the second state of emergency in 1986. They declared the third state of emergency in 1985. More and more people disappeared. More and more of all our children are dying. I remember the last time I was in home I was part of a boycott in front of a police station. But why are we there. We were there because in front of the police station there were eight year olds nine year olds 10 year olds. So did you find that the whole community these days. That involved that the whole community is involved in in in the activity for liberation. There is a sense that you cannot you cannot sort of be a bystander. You just have to go. And this is the kind of mood that is in our country presently. Course this problems. There has to be problems. The state has a problem. They have a people who do not want to be ruled that I never wanted them to rule. And we'll have not them into power. But also during this period I was just trying to to get you to see all the forces involved with in our country also outside. I mean there's been weeks since I was born. I was born in Port Elizabeth. Now when I was born I feel that we have that GM belonged to us folks that belong to us just down the road from us. There was this factory citra you know this French company. I thought Jean we as a kid I thought you know we're doing just fine with all these things that belong to us not realizing that it's people who are making profit out of my parent's agony. Out of all our parents agony of their death under their destruction out of the oppression and they stole there. GM of course said that they did disinvest. But I mean we still have to be cars. Some of the South Africans who here. Do you still see GM cars at home. We still have them. We still have phones. We have we have all of you guys there. The only thing that the only group that has really divested very well is Kodak. And so I'm encouraging you guys to buy Kodak don't drink Coke so that there's there's a sense that our suffering is not just something that is local. It's also an international thing. And I think we we as Americans you really and people are concerned about liberation of people. You should ask yourself the question how are you part of my oppression. Because whether you like it or not the fact that you know American makes you part of my oppression. What I would like to do now though is to give me some to read some of the words from the people at home so that you can get an understanding and a feeling for the kind of people that are there whether they are children or whether they are grown ups. And I try and and wrap up a little bit. Then we can you can ask questions. I love questions so you can ask difficult questions. You can ask easy questions and all of them. I'll answer it in a very long winded fashion too. I just want to read you a little piece that came from a Working Process magazine. It was recently in May. There was the metalworkers union there. They formed a coalition with a lot of other metal workers type unions. And this is what they said at the Union Nymphos Policy a political policy. The resolution concluded that the organized workers should consult with their allies especially the organized youth in order to build a program which can bring together as many groups in society as possible other significant and natural allies as the organized working class women students and the unemployed. And they too should be consulted in the formulation of a workers program for a democratic socialism is to be found in our country. So did you find that the workers these are the kind of things the workers are saying. I want to read you something that the teachers are saying. I'm reading from the Kairis document which is which has caused a big stir in the life of the church in general in the world. Not just I think more so in the world than in South Africa. It says this document says the time has come the moment of truth that truth has arrived. South Africa had been plunged into a crisis that is shaking the foundations. And they have every indication that the crisis has only just begun and that it will deepen and become even more threatening in the months to come. It is the chiros or moment of truth not only for PATHIC but for the church. The church also seen that it needs to be more and more saying what the people want to say and move in that direction. They don't want to read a poem that was written by a twelve year old. No. A 10 year old South African girl. And she's from Cape Town. Her name is Moss. And I want you to listen to this because she is 10. And in some ways when you listen to the poem she doesn't have the luxury of being a 10 year old. She already has to think. Some would probably move then some could limit the agony of someone's heart is all also the price of coal. The death of miners hunger strikes all for the price of coal but was told there is another thing just for the price of coal. The death of one hundred children and more was over the price of coal. Is this what we pay for the fight. The great anger. Pain. Even hate. Is this the price of coal. I want to read it again because it really says so eloquently what is happening in our country. From a 10 year old's perspective the agony of someone's heart is awful. The price of coal the death of miners hunger strikes are all for the price of coal. But so there is another thing just for the price of coal. The death of one hundred children and more was all for the price of coal. Is this what we pay for the fight the great and compelling need. Is this the price of coal. I have a problem that I talk a lot. I think I in here and maybe you can ask some questions and you can. Thank you very much for that. Oh boy. I am not so ofay about the code Bojo in terms of South Africa. Because you do not get news out of South Africa. What I do know though is that we still get Coke at home number one. Number two what do we. What we've been trying to say is that we it would be nice if Coke gets out of South Africa completely because what they've been doing is to open the plant where they make their coke. What's this sir. The concert or whatever in in Swaziland. And they they exported to South Africa. I think what what would be good is for Coke not to do that because that's what we've been asking. Not been asking to have Coke via Swaziland or Coke via whatever other country. And that's what's been the whole issue presently with the whole divestment issue is that I think one of the reasons why some of the companies are saying that they are divesting is because they have found ways of means of staying inside the country without really leaving. And just to try to get you guys off their backs. But I think what people really need to do is to find out what they really did and to continue the work. What I tried to do through my talk is to get people to give people be the defense that liberation doesn't come overnight. It's something that you work on continuously. And as an Americans who are interested in liberation in South Africa you know it's not something that you can say. Now I've done my my my stint for this year. They just sense that it's a continuous thing. You always have to check up on people that you asked to do things especially the companies who are supposed to be divesting. The state of. You mean oppression of the press. Oh the press. Yeah I just did. Oh press censorship. Ah sorry. He was speaking American. The. It's real bad example. People sometimes do not know. You can hear about the golf tournament. Yeah. I mean they would tell you about the big golf tournament they had and about the American golf players who did kind of play and about the cricketers that they were able to buy some way in the world to come and play a world tournament. So I think you get those things but you don't get news about the rent boycott next in the town next door or things like that. It's it's very very bad. People are saying that there's a real sense of not knowing what's happening in different areas. People only know because you have a cousin so-and-so who lives in this place or in that place. And most of the progressive newspapers have been rapped on the knuckles and some of them have been banned. You know and they come back again. But it's a real battle. It's the same as the educational thing. They will never be free press whatever the government says as long as there is oppression because they have something to hide. And as long as you have something to hide you don't feel like the press. So it's not very good at all. Could I just if I come back to ask one at a time. Now you see. Well if you if you do studied most revolutions you find that things don't naturally go. Kaddouri after the revolution because in a revolution everyone you are trained to to breakdown. You see since I was born my probably my mother's womb. I am trying to break down the South African system. That's that's who I am. I haven't had a chance yet to think about what we're going to build up. I mean I'm thinking about it every now and again. Like most of Africans. But of constitution in a sense as people is to break down because that thing is fair not for our good. And we'd better get it out as soon as possible. Now then the other question about tribalism. You sort of spoke about that. That is how the South African government's propaganda really works because in South Africa unlike and I don't know about tribalism in the rest of Africa but if there is a lot of tribalism in the rest of Africa. Well it's not manifested in the same way is in South Africa. The South African government have consistently been trying to try to realize this. I'm not saying that we are not the same. We as South Africans do not want to be the state and show some South Africans in this room do not want to be like me. And I probably don't want to be like that. And it's like in your country probably. Take the example of Switzerland. Switzerland has about five to seven million people. Now the Swiss are extremely tribal extremely tribal people. Why. They have about 16 cantons each canton. They sort of organize themselves. And you have the Germans and the French Swiss and the remote launched Swiss and the Italian Swiss. And they do not want to speak each other's words and they will not speak each other's language. Now when it comes to the Swiss are trying to be nice. They seven million they maybe this the world allows them to be different. Now when it comes to us as Africans we suddenly. And how much are we. How many. We about 30 million people. Now what the heck. We'll never think the same will never be the same. But also the way tribalism is is explained these days in South Africa. Isn't government propaganda think you find that within the last 10 years and retire to form homelands. Why should they form homelands if we are already tribal. Shouldn't we be in our homelands already. And I'm not saying that we are homogeneous but I'm just saying that we need to check up the source that gave me that information. Probably come straight from Pretoria. Also South Africa is you'll know that urbanisation when people are urbanized there's a sense that different tribal people come together begin to talk each other's languages and have a real sense become more sort of conformed to each other. And there's is one difference. Egypt is one of the greatest urbanized countries in Africa. So I think that should also be to our advantage that the we the whole tribalist argument is not our argument. And I tried to earlier on explain to you that we want to define ourselves. That is the definition that the state the South African state have of us. It's not necessarily our definition. Of course you can buy anything. They just the other day bought a guy called Gotcha. But unless you know you can buy anything Americans know that you just pay. Now you get what you pay for. I'd like you to follow up on early part of this question though about Bob I because the assumption of the previous question here was that sounded doubtful to Ian Smith. I think I'd like you to address the legal process whereby when there was a negotiated settlement I mean and secondly whether or not this question of tribalist. The first part I'm not I'm not. I don't want to talk about Zimbabwe because I do not know all that much about Zimbabwe. What I do know though is that for example one of the problems we also had as a South Africans is that people in the West decides who are the leaders. You see they people here outside you decide who is our leaders. And when we by the time we have our liberation decide you are needed up you get such a shock and you say oh these Africans don't know what they want. You know it's you guys who don't know what's happening. So you might as well take it. You know you don't know everything. So that there's a sense that I think that comes to play quite a bit. And sometimes you guys do back the wrong horse and that America is known to have backed the wrong horse all the time. So that you probably should question who your Cisco State is backing these days in in South Africa. And it's probably the wrong group. What was the other part of your question. Well if you see here in in when I came to this country and I want to talk about this country I don't want to gossip about Germany and Britain and so on. I could do that later on. But I'll stick to the Americans now. When I came here when things are not on TV the problem is solved here. So it's really bad for us when we're not on TV here because people think of South Africa. You know the problem is solved. It's not on TV number one. Number two there's a sense that sometimes people don't really question a lot what's on TV. It's like it's on TV. It must be true. And I do not know how you you can't do that. But it's been bad for us in the sense that we were not seen by the American people on TV. Also sometimes the kind of things is been shown on TV has not really been to our interest as black people. For example take the issue of violence. Someone may want your version of violence. So I ask with my take the question of violence on TV. It was the show. You remember the time when when a black woman was having a tire around her and being burned. I mean it was it was on your TV. Quite often. I am not saying that that is right. But you see what's not on your TV often is that out of every thousand children that get bored in South Africa every year 300 of them die before they are two years old. And I think that should be on your TV. And this thing about children you know in an industrialized country with stunting takes place. You know children can't think any more. The other thing that should be on your TV is the way the government has declared war on the young people in South Africa. If you look at the people who are in jail they are 15 16 17 18. As my work as the youth director of the council I had to choose. I don't know if you know about the children of war tool. It's keep children from war torn situations who come and speak to children in America in North America in the USA and in Canada. And I had to choose a child from home. He was 10. I chose him because he could speak English quite well. He lived in a township. He lived in solitude. And you know he was just a kuduro boy Chevy Cheat's. And I thought you know he's his mother was very involved. So he knows about politics. And he when he plays outside he knows about the soldiers and the hippos and all that. But as I was talking to him he said to me you would make a pencil bomb. Now he's 10. I said gee you know I. I didn't want to talk about I think you know a 10 year old. You don't talk about these things. Not that I didn't know but he he he tells me you know. Well what you should do is you take Farfel and you noodled and he tells me how to do it. And I say gee do I want to the home before I throw it. He says no don't be crazy. You shake and shake it a bit. You know he keeps telling me a ten year old how to be more effective in being destructive when children are asked in South Africa. And that's not on TV. You see when children ask in South Africa. It's been specifically in the last few years. What do you want for Christmas. I want a machine gun or an AK 47 and you're going to do it. Shoot the soldiers. Now you cannot I don't think any parents would want to trade the children to say such things but that. Environment. Does that watch over. And maybe we shouldn't even try and get them out of that because it's the way they survive when they wake up they are hippos and Kaspar's industry. And that's the reality. And those are the kind of things that's not on TV. And yet again I said what I say again. I didn't say well the other thing was right. But these are the things that people need to know because we want you to be so indignant about apartheid. We want you to be so indignant that your government is having dealings with America that you will not allow them. That's what we want you to do. We want you to be so indignant that our humanity and our dignity and our equality is well taken seriously. But you cannot be indignant when you when you see the wrong things. I hope to have answered your question and told you I cannot answer this short way. Right. 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That's very contextual you know. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=119.84,123.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't know much about that. Yeah I mean that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=123.71,128.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bad. I didn't read the paper. 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You have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=136.34,138.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to say because Dohle isn't he. He's an American","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=138.62,142.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"senator. 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And is he for a mile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=148.28,152.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Perhaps he's a great friend of the senator from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=153.65,155.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Iowa. So you have to check out your senator to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=155.69,158.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"check out. Why are they not doing things. 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Let me let me know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=499.46,504.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry. Sorry. With a tough economy or the white","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=504.43,507.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into. Let me use an example. 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When I came here this house is empty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=528.2,531.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This house is mine. You say I'm going to take it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=531.95,535.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to court. But I say I'm homeless. 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And you better","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=542.96,547.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get out of the toilet when I want to use it. Or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=547.16,550.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you could just use the pantry. 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Do you think I don't want to go to jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=564.47,569.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So take your house. Do you think we can negotiate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=569.57,573.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you want to give me a place. 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And it's important for us that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=597.98,600.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we want to our own interest. And it's in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=600.86,604.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interest of South Africa that we do because we are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=604.37,606.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the majority. They are only. But I'm going to be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=606.62,610.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nice. Six million. And we are the rest. The other","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=610.31,614.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"half million 25 million. 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I don't even want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=626.48,628.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"beat them up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=628.73,629.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they will have to make a decision. 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Last question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1187.61,1191.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Already there is a revolution ready to capture","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1195.9,1198.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"another land and be ready for some.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1198.86,1200.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see when we when we take over we have to take","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1203.57,1208.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over the life because we have nothing. 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Also if you look at the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1215.72,1219.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"revolution in South Africa it's different from the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1219.5,1221.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russian or the Chinese or even the Nicaraguan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1221.75,1225.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"revolution. We do not have land. We have nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1226.04,1230.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have nothing to lose but gain. You know even","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1231.29,1235.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when people talk about the peasants. You know you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1235.64,1237.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of think the peasants are people who are able","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1237.65,1240.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to support themselves. 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I mean they may be cartwell","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1263.72,1266.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people if they begin to act like people because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1266.63,1270.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these days they're acting like no news from outer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1270.11,1274.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"space or something. 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And also they have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1279.41,1283.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trained themselves to see us not as human beings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1283.13,1286.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you look at the literature that's written on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1287.39,1292.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Africa specifically do colonial period they always","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1293.93,1297.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"speak about Africans in zoological terms you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1297.14,1300.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's the same thing. It's they have just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1301.64,1303.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"perfected it. They do it zero zoological in a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1303.71,1306.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"scientific way. 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But I think when you talk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1309.38,1313.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about the revolution in South Africa it's a good","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1313.64,1315.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing if you begin to it's very very different","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1315.86,1318.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from a lot of the other revolutions. Thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1318.8,1321.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=1321.77,1322.36"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22561/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/561/original/AV203714_The_Process_of_Change_in_South_Africa_b.vtt?1613489713","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/561/original/AV203714_The_Process_of_Change_in_South_Africa_b.vtt?1613489713"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22562","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203714_The_Process_of_Change_in_South_Africa_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629/transcript/22562/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Is it the black consciousness movement. It really will hold in the church. You find a lot of the people who were involved in the leadership of the black consciousness movement were involved with black theology which is like a theology of liberation. And that has really stayed in the life of the church. It's also some of the things that inform me. It informs me about my relationship with God and how it is important for God's people to be radical be radically impatient for justice. So that there is a sense that the church has that function and the church has been forced in a sense by people to be more revolutionary in its thinking. And the church generally is quite conservative. You do find within the church very very conservative people. But there's a very strong group and young people in the church they are forcing the church to be much more more radical than what the churches in the church do play quite an important role within the life of people because the church has resources that other organizations don't have. The church is not just a local or national organization. It is a global organization. And you can mobilize people against apartheid internationally very very easily as a church so that the church has both negative and positive aspects about it. But I think there is a sense that the positive will grow more and more because of the radical element in the church. Recent refusal of television stations to carry advertising from time criticizing Robert George Soros. Well I I. That's very contextual you know. I didn't know much about that. Yeah I mean that's bad. I didn't read the paper. I should have read the paper. No but I think if if you see that's the problem that you guys would have. Yeah. You have to say because Dohle isn't he. He's an American senator. And TransAfrica is trying to get him to look like real bad you know. And is he for a mile. Perhaps he's a great friend of the senator from Iowa. So you have to check out your senator to check out. Why are they not doing things. I'm not I'm not too sure what's happening there. Not a very exciting question. It's exciting because there's suspense that I can't ask. It is but give me a break. I mean I'm not. I can't look into the future. But exciting because you have to any group that wants to be involved with the liberation of the people need to know what the people are saying. Now I can only tell you what I think they are saying. When you hear young people speak they talk about a socialist country. They talk about a place where we can have equality. They talk about a place that says that the people will share the land. They talk about the fact that it's and that's a very important one because in South Africa presently more than 87 percent of the land belongs to white people. They really plan. It does very good there. It's it's worse than in any other part of Africa. Work in South Africa. Black people cannot even own land. You know if you have a house the house is yours and the land is not yours. So that if you are if the government thinks that you you are real bad they can say we're taking the land. Take your house. Now what are you going to do with the house without some way to put it on. So the people young people take the issue one very seriously. They are talking about a place where within the economic system we will have people sharing more of the fruits of our economic system. We're talking about gold or diamonds uranium platinum coal you name it. We have it. And that's showing off. But we do have it. We want people to be part of that to live off that much more than just the small group that's living off it now. So that if if you want to call that socialism then probably is a socialist type step. But we do not we're not going to have racist capitalism that's for sure because we have a very very negative experience of it. And I don't think it will work. I'll come back to you. Now let me be nice to the side. I only met the one. I didn't tell you. Yeah I think also one of the things that especially South Africa is we are struggling with very much is because everyone is telling us we should all have one voice. And there is a sense that maybe there's something important about having one voice. But we need to have unity. But unity is not necessarily uniformity. That's the thing that we are struggling with us as South Africans presently very very much is how do we accommodate each other without destroying each other. And it's it's it really is very very much a problem for us as as a people. How do we allow our differences to be there and still to get out of the rotation. Because there is no way no way in heaven or hell that you will get 30 million people to think the same because they will have to be some people who oppress others to think you know what they want. And in some ways even if it is very uncomfortable even if it's very difficult it's important that we go through this process now so that once we are liberated we are able to work with it much more creatively. And if maybe that was some people or any other people think that we should do it the way they want us to do it. But it never works that way. We can I think and I'm glad you asked that. Perhaps you can tell more people about it that they should expect us to be normal and abnormal. What is the idea. For me the important question now is whether we're going to do with this with the effort. And I never really thought about it cause a lot of people have been saying that we want to kill them. You know other people from outside tell us that we are saying that we want to kill and we want to throw them in the sea. We want to do this and that. We've never said it number one. Number two is it for me the most important question now is how do we get on a mission that's important. It's not important for me now to work out how am I going to check and and work out the interests of the Afrikaner in South Africa. Let me let me know. Sorry. Sorry. With a tough economy or the white into. Let me use an example. If I steal your house I'm accommodate you on holiday. OK. And I come and I say this house is empty. I'm taking it now. You come back and you want your house back. I say give me a break. When I came here this house is empty. This house is mine. You say I'm going to take it to court. But I say I'm homeless. I have no place to go. This house is mine. If you want to stay in this house you can use the toilet. And you better get out of the toilet when I want to use it. Or you could just use the pantry. Now to some extent it's that I think what should happen in that case is that if I am a homeless person I need to say you know I took this house because I'm really homeless. Do you think I don't want to go to jail. So take your house. Do you think we can negotiate. Do you want to give me a place. Then you can say you can live in the back yard. You. You could build a shack in the corner. But the thing is is that there is a sense that there are some things that needs to be done first. And there is to some extent that even if I want to talk about what will happen to the Afrikaner it would be unrealistic because they are not interested in what's going to happen to us now. And it's important for us that we want to our own interest. And it's in the interest of South Africa that we do because we are the majority. They are only. But I'm going to be nice. Six million. And we are the rest. The other half million 25 million. So that I think when we look at that and I'm not I am you know they are some of those people that often liberation. I don't want to touch them with a stick because of what they've done to people. I don't even want to beat them up. And they will have to make a decision. What they need to. They have to you know in any even be in America. I mean you got the court of law. If people did wrong you need to check them out. You even put people in electric cars here. And all I'm saying is that we are human. We've been told and you've been told we're not human. And that was our downfall. I think that that's something that needs to be done first because we before I can answer that question realistically. And I do not want to answer it really. I don't think I can answer it because it's not a question I'm dealing with now. It's not the most important question for me. The most important questions for me is to first come to the point where we can say we have the authority to make decisions here. And therefore we will make decisions now. And what are we doing that will be helpful for us as a nation if we're going to do things that's going to break us down as a nation than we are being stupid. But we need to do what is helpful for us as a nation and we probably will do it much better if we wait for the right time. They want an answer now. It's in their interest. There was a question. It's generally touching that the number of not that it is about. What is that. Well we we've kind of I think you know what I do know is that the minister of defense at the time the minister of defense some years ago was in newspaper said if they have to use nuclear weapons against these impertinent blacks they will. Which is very stupid because they'll die too. But I mean we have not there's a lot of things that South Africa has. And I think that we as a nation later on need to to work with in the interest of of ourselves as a nation. It's really difficult for me as an oppressed person with change and everything and everyone's feet on me to still think about nuclear power that we have. It kind of seems irrelevant. I'm sure that some people are thinking about it but I can't really answer that question. I think it is interesting to know whether we up to do at this to the whole. And. The severity of what the educational system is controlled by the government and what they're teaching us is that. You know normally society trains you for society. You know as Americans your education is the first to perpetuate the American society you know and it's the same in South Africa. We are trained to be to be good blacks. And a good black means someone who doesn't ask too many questions. Someone who knows that he will. They will be too many doctors. There won't be too many lawyers. We only need a few so that they did in the system these training us for to be underdogs. The education that I spoke about is more informal education like students beginning to come together saying who are we. You know where do we come from. What is our history. This is what the school to say. But we all know it's not right. So. So what is it. It's more an informal type of teaching. Also there are some teachers who know that what they are supposed to teach us is wrong and they let the children know. But it's sort of a long term process. This thing that we began to train ourselves and to educate ourselves. It's done in churches. It's done in community organizations. It's in leadership training programs. It's done at political meetings. And it's really not the formal education. It's more at an informal level. Also I think you know the more you it's just I think it's a natural thing. The more you oppress people the more they want to be free. Perhaps you can I would like you all to do an exercise with me but it will only take two seconds. Can you hold this hand out of this and please. I do it. You won't be funny. No one will laugh at you. Just do this and press with his hand down on the set. Press. Ha ha. What. What's happening. The more you press down the more this one comes out. You didn't think about it did you. It was just a natural thing. I think it's the same with humans. I mean although we were humans who did this. But I think also that the more you oppress people the more people begin to fight back. And the more you going to put more power on it the more power comes from above. So I hope it answered your question. How are we doing for time. Well two more questions. I'm dreaming. Very powerful. Yeah. All those who really want to ask the question is. And with the atomic weapons. But that's what they doing already U.S. Senate. One of the things that I find very strange that I talk about revolution I talk to say the revolution is happening isn't it. To me it's happening. Everyone else when they ask questions is like when the revolution know there's no such thing it is happening. They are already killing as many of us as possible. Let me read you a list. I did have a list here about 32 people to be executed. The average you. Yeah. But the thing is is that it's just it's like the genocide with Jewish people. It's they did die. You see you don't die more. If you shot with a bullet than when you die because you're hungry you still die. And I think that's what people need to get in. It's still the same violence. I don't according to you do I. I think I look kind of nice you know middle class. If I walk down the streets of Johannesburg and where I was working they always always had police bad army guys. You know these 19 20 year olds and you just want to kick them in the backside. They weren't there with their guns and sometimes they walk towards you. And like I'm smiling along go to work. But in my head what am I thinking. If I can get a gun you will be dead meat. That's what I think. Now is that nonviolent. Is that nonviolence. I mean really it affects you. So this I think people need to begin to really reevaluate and redefine the sense of violence because the violence is escalating in our country. And also answering your question further in in South Africa we have come to the point that you have to kill us if you want this line. We cannot. You can you can do what you like but you cannot live here without consent and protest the way you do it. I think it's just I think people do that. It's it's a sense of survival. Survival is not just living. It's living in the fullness. And if you are a Christian you're probably going to spend it because the Christian tradition talks about when Christ came became that we may have a life and not just life but life in its fullest you know abundant life. And there's a sense that if if that's denied for too long you know there's this sense that people are saying this is death and I'm not going to take it. I need to move to a form of life. And in the Christian tradition anyhow out of a death out of life out of death comes life. So that there is it's very logical thing that people will not give up just because you have Malden's you just become more sneaky. Last question. Already there is a revolution ready to capture another land and be ready for some. You see when we when we take over we have to take over the life because we have nothing. Eighty seven percent of the land more than in the hands of of of white people. Also if you look at the revolution in South Africa it's different from the Russian or the Chinese or even the Nicaraguan revolution. We do not have land. We have nothing. We have nothing to lose but gain. You know even when people talk about the peasants. You know you kind of think the peasants are people who are able to support themselves. We can't have those people who are so-called peasants and their husbands work in the mines because they cannot be peasants and still live. And I think people also need to try and make a distinction between other revolutions in South Africa because the people who are pressing us are not our people. I mean they may be cartwell people if they begin to act like people because these days they're acting like no news from outer space or something. I think people outer space would echo that. But you know they really are acting in a very strange way. And also they have trained themselves to see us not as human beings. If you look at the literature that's written on Africa specifically do colonial period they always speak about Africans in zoological terms you know. And it's the same thing. It's they have just perfected it. They do it zero zoological in a scientific way. You know they talking about experiments and so on. But I think when you talk about the revolution in South Africa it's a good thing if you begin to it's very very different from a lot of the other revolutions. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36562/file/105629#t=0.0,1329.696"}]}]}]}