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In Texas where I come from this is the dead of winter and you wouldn't touch anybody out on a night like this. We're delighted to have the first of our public installments of the seventh annual conference on religious ethics. It's a series of conferences that has spanned the gamut of ethical issues, technology, Ag ethics, in this year, political ethics, political ethics in a revolutionary situation, are two very distinguished speakers are both from a Latin American context. And so the sub theme of our conference is the Latin American political situation. As part of the theme of our Religious Ethics Conference sponsored by the Religious Studies program. The religious dimension of this question has to do with what has become known as liberation theology. Our speaker tonight is one of the fathers so to speak of Latin American liberation theology, a theology which has certainly political implications and has been a central element of the Latin American and Central American political process over the last two or three decades. We've, because of the size of the crowd, we've already run out of brochures. So let me just go through the other two public events. Tomorrow there will be a dialogue, Peace, Justice and Revolution in Latin America. Our speaker tonight Jose Miguez Bonino and tomorrow night's keynote, Rodrigo Carazo will be our panel in the maintenance shop at 12 o'clock. The structure of that will be an open dialogue, they will have possibly opening statements and they will be introduced and then it is the context that will determine what is talked about. So come and participate in that kind of discussion. Tomorrow night, here at eight o'clock, Rodrigo Carazo, President of Costa Rica in the early 70s, or actually late 70s, early 80s, right? And founder and president of the University for Peace in Costa Rica will be our speaker. Tonight are in fact let me have him stand up. President Carazo will speak on War and Peace in Central America eight o'clock tomorrow night. Tonight's speaker is Jose Miguez Bonino now retired from his post, as dean of postgraduate studies at the Protestant Institute for Higher Theological Studies in Buenos Aires. He is an ordained Methodist minister from Argentina. As I said, he is one of the fathers so to speak of Latin American liberation theology. His book, \"Doing Theology in a Revolutionary Situation\" is a classic of that genre of theology. He was also one of the presidents of the World Council of Churches, from 1976 to 1982. Educated in Argentina, and the United States Emory University and the Union Theological Seminary in New York. He is currently the distinguished visiting professor at Emory University, where I've met him several years ago as a student. It's my very great pleasure to introduce to you, Jose, Miguez Bonino.\r\n\r\n- Let me get over the shock of seeing so many people here. I expected this will be a sort of family conversation, but I see that it is a rather an extended family. I hope that we can somehow make this a conversation, to some extent, the silent or you'll part, but I hope there will be some time for participation, it's really a great honor to be here to have a chance to visit the university with different group of students and to be here this evening and to share this event with the ex-president Carazo, who was on the eve of becoming president of Costa Rica, when I spent about six months there at the beginning of '77. I didn't have a chance to meet him at that time, but it's really a pleasure to be and an honor to participate together with him in this event. Now, the organizers of this thing have thrown into the title so many things that you don't know where to begin. Political ethics, some people would say there is no such a thing. Ethics and politics do not have anything to do with each other. And of course, we immediately think of Machiavelli would have something to say about this title of political ethics. In a revolutionary situation, what is it? What is the revolutionary situation? Can you characterize Latin America as a revolutionary situation? I hope that President Carazo will at some point discuss the question of revolution situations, but I think it'd be very difficult to say that Latin America is a present in a revolutionary and some people would say even in a pre-revolutionary situation, and then when you throw in theology and so on, the thing becomes even more complex. So I decided that it would be impossible to try to give a very systematic exposition of the issue. And I would simply try to make five points, not very systematically connected, but which I think they represent an understanding of the Christian faith and the political situation, and the Christian responsibility in Latin America. So I'm just trying to articulate this sort of five points, and comment a little bit on them. And then let us gather as much time as possible for your own comments and questions, and so on. The first one is this. The fundamental point of departure for many Christians today in Latin America, is that Christian faith means for us an experience of God in and with the poor, and a commitment to the poor. Should I repeat, that for many Christians in Latin America, the Christian faith means for us an experience of God, in and with the poor, and a commitment to the poor. Now, faith, of course, is a relation with transcendent reality. You could say it is an absolute relationship of love and reverence and adoration with this transcendent reality that we call God. But faith is lived on this earth under the conditions of human life, faith is always lived by particular people in a particular place, at a particular time. And therefore, the way in which they live, they experience, they expressed their faith is related to the very concrete conditions in which they live. In Latin America, faith has to be expressed in the concrete conditions of time and place and that means for Latin America, but not only for Latin America, to try to live this relation to God to transcendent reality in the world, that is defined by the present, by the presence and the suffering of a large and growing majority of the poor. If we speak in Latin American in terms of absolute and critical poverty, you are speaking of more than two thirds of the population. But you could extend that to world terms. Sometimes we who live a more or less better life, we come to think that the world is more or less like the world in which we live. That is the normal thing. That unfortunately, in this ocean of normal life, there are some islands of poverty and oppression. When you look at the world as it is, and in Latin America it can be seen, we live really in an ocean of poverty, in which there are some islands of abundance and comfort. So, if you believe if you are related to God, to have in Latin America and I'll say in the world, you have to live that faith in this world in which poverty is a whole overwhelming experience for a large number of the population of the world. Now, this experience of relating to God in the world of the poor is not first of all, the result of analysis or the result of an ideology. It's first of all, an act of faith, I would say that it is a sort of cry of concern, in which you say no this cannot be. A sense of consternation that is been throat thrown down by a reality which is overwhelming the reality of hunger, of exploitation, of suffering, of sickness, and so on. Of crying out, God how can you let this be? Which is half a cry, half a complaint, half a prayer and it becomes a commitment, what can I do at this point? Now, this is the basic experience then you have to try to understand, you have to try to articulate your faith, you have to try to articulate your theology, but the originating fact it's not an analytical fact, it is a response to a situation. When we speak of option for the poor, which is the name that is given to that experience, we are referring really to two things, which are inseparable but are distinct. One is, we are talking about this majority of the poor that means the economically oppressed which can be measured by unemployment, can be measured by the number of calories a day, can use every day, can be measured in terms of housing, can be measured in terms of all the indicators of economic poverty. It means the culture is deprived the people who cannot express their own culture, but are subject many times to cultural control and domination cannot live and create their own culture. It means the racially discriminated the large minorities, Indian minorities in many Latin American countries, which in some cases are not even minorities they are majorities of people who have been discriminated against, marginalized from life for centuries in Latin America. It means to speak of women and children of the 16 million of abandoned children roaming the streets of the cities in Brazil, and of the women who are oppressed because they are Indian, because they are poor, because they are Latin American, and because they are women. It means the countries, us countries sinking under the weight of foreign debt. It means the politically disenfranchised who for dictatorships or for other in other ways, have no way to participated in the decisions about the life of their own people. So we are speaking of the poor as victims. But we are also speaking of the poor as the struggling poor. They are not only visible as victims, but they have waged for centuries, and are still waging a many sided struggle to change their condition. We were talking now about the new social organizations that appear at the level of the poor, of the base, and that are growing constantly. About neighborhood organizations, about workers organizations, about basic occlusive communities, about the last demonstration that have taken place, during the military dictatorships in several Latin American countries, about political struggles also, so that the poor are no longer the victims they are the victims but at the same time that they struggling poor and therefore commitment to the poor, this basic experience for many Christians does not only mean denouncing poverty, bringing whatever help we can, we can, it means also solidarity with the poor in their struggles, and participation with them in their quest for change, and that leads us to the second point that I wanted to make. This participation in the struggle of the poor, is therefore, inevitably, also a political decision. I say also, because the relation to the poor is not only a political relation, it is a spiritual relation and perhaps first of all it is a spiritual relation. It is, I think, a passionate relation. The Italians use without shame, the word emotional, and as a son of Italian, an Italian mother, I don't want to leave that word out. It's an emotional relation, it's an spiritual relation, it's an emotional relation, it is a physical relation which you try to be with them to talk with them and so on, but it is also a political relation. Faith is not and cannot be politically neutral, or politically absent. Therefore, this is the second point that I wanted to make the participation in this struggle of the poor, is inevitably also a political decision. Faith is not in cannot be politically neutral, or absent. Now, for us in Latin America, this affirmation that faith cannot be politically neutral, does not need to be demonstrated theoretically because it has been lived historically. Religion has played a role throughout all our history in political life and a decisive role in political life since the beginning, Since the time of what is called the discovery of America. It has participated in the political life as a support, and legitimizing the existing power structures. We know the whole history of the colonial Christendom, in which the church supported the state or the crown if you wish, and the crown supported the church. And there was this sort of amalgam of unity of church and state, and therefore there's been a presence of Christianity as a support of the total social economic political system. It has been present in politics as an instrument of domination. And there's no doubt that part of the conquest of Latin America had a religious side to it. It is not for anything that the first word of the conquerors to the Latin American to the indigenous what not that Latin American was what was called . In the name of God, who is the supreme authority of the world. We request you obedience to the king of Spain who is the representative of that higher God. So you see, immediately God becomes the support of the authority of the king. So we have had religion present in politics, we have also had religion present as a protest against domination and against cruelty. I will mention at some point the most famous name, Bartolome de Las Casas the defender of the Indians at the beginning of the conquest but he was not alone, and there's a whole number of people, Christian people who try their best to show a different kind of God, who would side not necessarily with the king of Spain, but with the poor Indian. The role of religion in life in Latin America is not declining. Some people have thought that we were moving into a secular world in which religion will not play any more role. This is not the case in Latin America, and I suspect from my little experience of the United States, that the role of religion in politics is not declining in the United States, also. So, how, since religion does have always a certain political weight, how should it exercise it? Now here, you come to the question of theology, and theological ethics. Now, you have to think this commitment to the poor. What does it mean? When you try to relate it also to the political struggle of the poor, to change the conditions of their lives. And this brings me to a third point, I'm trying to move more or less quickly, to give us more time. How is religion present in political life? And I would say that that's the sort of thesis that I want to defend at this point, that religion is present in political life fundamentally, by helping in the creation of the views of the world, the understandings of human life, the emergence of reality, which gives meaning and orientation to the life of a people. Now, this is a rather complex statement, I will repeat it and then try to break it down. Religion is present in political life fundamentally, by helping with the creation of the views of the world, the understandings of human life, the emergence of reality, which give meaning and orientation to the life of a people. Certainly, in Latin American life, at the churches particularly the Catholic Church, being the majority church has been present directly participated in the political life like in the Christendom colonial regime. It has been also indirectly participating in political power, influence legislation for instance when last year, the Congress in Argentina voted a law of divorce, for the first time in Argentine history. It was against the teachings of the church and the church lobbied against it. It won that struggle 50 years ago, when there was a discussion, it lost it this time. But there's a history of the churches trying to influence not only the Catholic Church, but churches trying to influence through they use indirect use of political power. But I think the most important way and it will increasingly be the most important way in which the church and religion participates in political life is by creating and helping to create into interjecting the life of people, the minds of people, the soul of people, certain views of the world, certain views of reality, certain views of social relations, certain understandings of what authority is that we do not learn from books but which we learn at home, in school, in the church, and are part of our life without thinking it is this finally that that moves us. You see in any Latin American country, a four year old, will listen to somebody knocking at the door and will look there, and will shout back to the mother, \"Mom there's a woman here.\" Or he will say, \"There's a lady at the door.\" Who taught him to distinguish between a woman and a lady. Nobody taught him but he learned, and there's an understanding of human relations there. That will be more persistent in the mind and the heart of the child, than all the lessons that he will learn from the school and from other sources earlier on. Now, that's a way in which the church and religion operates in human life. Paulo Freire talks of a conversation with a Brazilian patient, about the situation of the patient and so on the poverty and a question was now why are you a peasant? \"My father was a peasant. \"Yes, of course, and my grandfather was a peasant, \"all my family have always been peasants. \"We have always been poor. \"That's how it is.\" And then Freire push the question, why is it? \"Well, I guess that's what God wanted. \"That's God's will.\" You see, there's a whole worldview, a whole understanding of reality that of which God becomes the fundamental stone which justifies the whole system. That's a way in which religion operates in politics much more than by direct exercise of power, or even by indirect exercise of influence or legislation. It is by creating a mind set, an understanding of human life. The Brazilian military government was very intelligent, when in the Education Act of 1966 or '67, they say, I don't have the quotation here I wish I had brought it. I have it in the hotel. But they say basically, that one of the purpose of education was to instill into the mind of people a three layer view of reality. In which there is the transcendent real that directs the whole of life. There is the moral duties that are the result of obedience to the transcendent real, and there is the civic virtues. And the civic virtues are defined by the government. So you see, there is a direct line if you obey the laws of the government in that case the security, national security doctrine that the Brazilian military guy was teaching, if you obey that you are obeying the moral laws. And if you are obeying the moral laws you are obeying the transcendent power. On the other hand if you disobey the civic laws, you disobey the moral laws and you sin against transcendent power. Now that can become a part of the whole understanding of human life, it has become part of the whole understanding of human life. And I think that's much more powerful as a presence of religion in politics than any other way. Therefore, I think this is precisely the point. How is society structure? Who is a good person? How do I see other people? How is authority justified? Now there are religious ideas that enter into the mind of people. But I think it is also interesting to note on the other side that politics has also this expressive symbolic dimension. As much as politics has an instrumental pragmatic aspect. Politics means policies, decisions, agreements, laws, administration. But politics means also symbols, sentiments, values, look at your presidential campaign last time. Some people were disqualified for their trespasses on sexual behavior is that because the sexual behavior of the majority of the population is so pure that they resent that? Or is that because a symbol was used, which has religious connotation, and in the lack of that symbol of a personal integrity of an honest person in the light of that symbol it was possible to destroy the image of somebody who had betrayed that symbol. It was not really politics in the pragmatic sense. It wasn't a discussion about the political abilities and so on. It was a symbolic world. I followed with a great interest, this whole debate about abortion laws in this country, this last months and so on. I'm not going to say what I think about it. So that don't even ask the question later on, but it was very interesting. The point of the votes were some very concrete laws, about the time of interruption of pregnancy, conditions about people who have a woman who had suffered rape and so on, so forth. But really, the symbols that were brought to the forefront did not relate directly to the very specific points of the law, that we're going to be voted. Credited to emotional response, pro-life, pro-choice, life and choice are two values. It was a struggle that was cast symbolically, in terms of values, in terms of the emotional response to values. And behind that, of course, there were some concrete decisions, political decisions, so on. So politics has also this very strong if I can call it religious aspect of commitment to values of emotional response to symbols and we could give a number of examples. How much of this is religious? I think that is a very, it's very difficult to say, at what point these symbols have religious connotations and appeal on the basis of the religious connotations and to what extent they are symbols in a more secular way. I watched with great interest since the 80s the revival or the appearance of a very militant political attitude on the part of churches which traditionally have claimed to be non-political. Now, this very large churches in the United States particularly in the south but not only in the south which have always claimed to make a very strong separation between politics and religion. Religion doesn't have anything to do with politics. It's a purely spiritual thing has to do with the soul and God, it has to do with the other world. And it doesn't have, at most it has to do with personal ethics, but not with politics suddenly in the 80s it erupted as a political movement. You could even say that the repressed political element in that religious faith suddenly exploded in an almost fanatical way. You cannot repress this political element which is present in religion just as you cannot eliminate the religious aspect of a political life and reduce it to a purely pragmatic exercise. So, my claim is that the most important relation between religion and politics, the political life is at the level of symbols, of representations, of commitments. And then I come to my fourth point, the relation of liberation faith in theology to political transformation in Latin America has two very powerful symbols, which are traditionally part of the religious life of the people, which have new meaning and power for change. Now, going to mention this two very important symbols, religious symbols, which I think have also a great political power. One is the symbol of the crucified Christ, which has been all along present in Latin America Christian history. They crucified, tortured, wounded Christ. It's interesting that some of the Indian and Mestizo painters in Peru depicted the crucified suffering Christ with the face of an Indian. As saying, it is us, who repeat now the suffering of Christ. They identify themselves with this crucified Christ the symbol of God's identification with their own suffering. de Las Casas whom I mentioned before writes as he goes to Spain in one of his trips. \"I see in the Indies.\" Latin American countries time, society time. \"Jesus Christ, our Lord, \"whipped, wounded, crucified not once, \"but a million times.\" Now, the poor is the place where God meets us, and this is the meaning of that symbol. There is between this God who becomes poor and as a poor suffers. There is a kinship, a parentesco we would say in Spanish. A kinship between this God and the poor which is rooted in the very fact that this God has wanted to become one of the poor. A Christian ethics for politics does not begin by asking what can I do for the poor but by assuming the powerlessness of the poor and asking from the condition of the poor, how can we change human life? So I think this is a very very important symbol. In political terms, this means several things. It is the experience of suffering, that shows the gaps that exist in reality, the world may look quite alright when it functions well for us. Human life seems normal because I more or less have the things that I've needed for human life. But would you look at human life from below, from the condition of the poor, the world doesn't seem well organized, logical, rational reality. It looks as what it is as an absurd, contradictory, destructive reality. So the gaps of reality, the irrationality of the society as it is can be discerned from below, from the life of the poor. In a way in which it cannot be discern from the top of society. That means there is a way of knowing that relates to the condition of the poor not because they are more intelligent, not because they are better people, but because they stand at a different point. And the things that you can see depend on the point at which you stand. There are things that I can see from here that you cannot see from the place where you are and vice versa. Now, the poor stand at a place in society from which they can see things in the economy, things in political life, things in the churches, that the people who control economy, who control political life, control the churches cannot see because they do not sit where the poor have to sit. So this identification of God with the concerns for the poor, means that God looks at things from God's experience of identification with the poor. And since God has come to exercise power in the powerlessness of the crucified, a Christian political ethics will look at the crucified of the world as a political actor and not merely as political victim. Christ on the cross is not merely the symbol of God's powerlessness it is also the symbol of God's power, of God's power to transform reality from the powerlessness of the poor. And therefore we have to look at the poor not merely as a passive suffering victim, but as a place where human beings are fighting for change. The second symbol is the symbol of resurrection. When I use the word symbol I do not mean to detach from the reality. I'm speaking about the cross of past as reality. I'm speaking about resurrection as a reality. But I'm speaking now also about the symbolic power of that reality. The Guatemalan woman poet Julia Esquivel says at one point we are threatened by resurrection, we are threatened by resurrection. That is resurrection isn't only a promise, it is also a call. If resurrection is true, you can invest your life. A Brazilian song in the Peace community says, We are already risen, we are people on the match. And you see this connection between being already risen, having the power of resurrection because they come from death, because they have come from the cross. Means also to be on the match, to be moving. Now you'll find this, if we had time to go into the stories of resurrection in the Gospels, how much they are connected with people that are walking, that are going to someplace, that are moving, and so on. The resurrection does not eliminate the cross, it really does not explain the cross it generates within suffering the promise of life and the power of hope. And the symbol of the resurrection is this for the suffering masses that there is a promise of life, and therefore there is a power of hope and you can start moving in the direction of that hope. The political level that raises the whole question of a place of utopia or a place of hope in political thinking. And I think this is both strength and weakness in Latin American political thinking. The Christian faith, the Christian hope is not an utopia, but it can generate hope that transcends person's reality, and again, this is a very important thing. Because to have an horizon of hope, to have a prospect of hope brings people together, unifies people, gathering people around the symbols of their future hope and therefore, to inspire and strengthen the match towards the future. Because this hope can relate the small struggles and the very small victories to the larger course. You see a small community may only be able to struggle to get running water into that neighborhood. It's a very small thing. But when they do get it that becomes a sort of little thing that gives them strength to go on to the next thing. So the little things relates to a larger hope and is able to be introduced into this horizon of hope. 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But for us in our part of Latin America our immediate political concern is to enter into and to move forward in the process of democratization. So the step ahead is building up, strengthening, deepening fulfilling the promises of real democracy. There's so much glorified transitions to democracy in our continent, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay hopefully in Chile in the near future, Paraguay have to be looked at realistically. They are the result of the struggles of the people. They are very fragile, precarious in some cases, quite partial democracies. Nevertheless, they are very important. And we have to take care of them like a small plant that has to be taken care of with great love. But at the same time realistically we have to realize that this is not democracy. This is just a transition, a process of transition, to democracy. And therefore we want to distinguish between democracy as a more or less formal concept and a process of democratization as a larger and all encompassing understanding. Not this the democracy not the point of arrival that not the goals achieved. They are the points of departure for the democratization of our society. Sometimes we speak of this democratization at three levels the political system, elections, representation, separation of powers. What you have in the constitution that we have in our constitutions. The rights and warranties and freedoms for individual and social life, freedom of speech, association, right to fair trial, and so on and so forth. In the democratization of society as effective participation of all the people in political decision the creation and the enjoyment of culture, the control of the resources of the country for the common good, so that democracy, when it is unpacked it means political democracy. It means cultural democracy. It means social democracy. It means economic democracy. We have just begun to have some elements of political democracy and these have to be preserved because they are an open space which is necessary as a presupposition for the fulfilling of the democratic process. And in this situation, a great deal of care, of prudence, has to be used. Not to destroy this little plant, but also not to let it stay like that only to help it grow. The measure of courage and patience of prudence and boldness, I think it is the recipe for realism. Realism means precisely risking what needs to be risked and preserving what needs to be preserved. Fulfilling, whatever is possible, and moving towards what is not now possible. So, these will be some of the things that I think we would try to say about talking about political ethics, religion in Latin America's situation. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] I realize a few people need to go. If you need to leave at this point, we'll give you a couple of minutes to do so then we'll have a question and answer session.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 1] Yeah, I have a question.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] As you leave, please leave quietly.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 1] I would like to hear your perspective of the environment especially when we view the environment and environmental questions throughout the level of support.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Have you been able to hear the question?\r\n\r\n- [Audience] No.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] No. The question had to do with the growing concern in the developed countries about the environment and whether that concern is also present in the less developed or the poor populations. That was basically the question I think. I think it poses a serious question for the poorer countries. Because on the one hand, they have to grow. They have to increase the production of food and resources of different types. They need to use some technology in order to be able to respond to the needs of the population. And that is a paramount concern. When you have majority population deprived of the basic necessities of life, the need for increasing the production and so on, it cannot be silenced. On the other hand, we are experiencing the rape of nature perhaps even to a larger extent, than the developed nations. The destruction of the environment in our countries, the cutting down of forests, the use of land, which becomes wasted and cannot be used anymore. The introduction of technologies which are destructive of the environment they use precisely over third world places and people for polluting industries. Since the governments of the weaker nations are less able to control pollution of the environment. And the worst thing is that this destruction of the environment, is not resulting in the betterment of the lives of the people. So that we need an increase of production, and at the same time we are suffering the destruction of the environment without fulfilling that need. It is from this two-fold concern that we are concerned with the question of the environment. Because precisely the exploitation of third world, its related destruction of the environment, and because at the same time it does not allow us to use the resources of our environment for the needs of the people. So I think really our basic concern would be to relate the conservation of the environment to the needs of the people. I wonder whether that is not a good approach to the question of environment worldwide? The relation of the preservation of the environment, to the real needs of the people because one suspects that the large damage to the environment has very little to do with the real basic needs of the people in the world. At that point we can find a common ground in the question of the struggle for the preservation of the environment. After all it is at that point one world. And if the boat sinks, rich and poor will sink with it. Of course, usually, the poor are down, and the rich are in the upper deck. So they may sink a little bit later. But that is not a great comfort.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 2] You said that a democracy like in America must care for but you clearly see that the rich countries of the world have a real concern about the\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] I don't know. I think that some people have a real concern. Some governments have no real concern that we can discern at least. But I think Latin Americans have to free ourselves from being so mesmerized, so bewitched by the power of the great nations that we think we can do nothing. There are many things we can not do, but there are some things that we can do. And I think that we have to stop looking at the powerful as if they were the all powerful, sort of omnipotent shapers of the future of humankind. Of course, you would say to them, you have to be realistic. Now what it means to be realistic? If you were writing about who controls the world around, I don't know, the year 1600, what would you say? Of course, the kings, the emperor, and perhaps the papal state, the pope and the heads of the church. In 150 years, some things have changed. And the people who are shaping the world, the new world that was emerging, was some of the people who didn't count. These people that were getting together in the city, the Berbers, the bourgeois that were gathered together in the city, these little merchants that were moving around all over Europe, doing their little trade here and there and so on. These trade groups, these little lenders of money that will begin to use and accumulate money and so on. In a century and a half, these would be the forces that were shaping history. Who would have made a bet on them by 1560? Let's say very few. Certainly not the intellectuals of the time. So let's not be so bewitched by the existing powers. And let us be concerned with how do we build around the people an awareness of reality, forms of very simple organization, small goals for small struggles, and let that thing ripen in the future. That doesn't mean that's a very smooth road. The roads of history usually have setbacks. And you move ahead, and then you have to move back again. And then you advance a little bit. This is the way in which history usually moves.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 2] Can I make a comment?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 2] You don't put the minister of the economy as some guy that is a of poor caliber . And I feel that these people have a vision of the reality but don't agree with what you say-\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Yes, certainly.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 2] About the reality of Latin America.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Yes, certainly, certainly, yes. I fully agree with you. I don't expect a who has placed the minister of economy in Argentina to be so dramatically concerned with the poor. They are concerned with some other things but they are not eternal. And the IMF is not determined. The World Bank is not the last thing that was created in this world. It was not the first thing, it will not be the last thing. The people will survive and the IMF, and the World Bank. And I prefer to bet on the people, although I may not see the achievement of some of the goals. And I prefer to do a little thing in that road of the poor that to become so completely overwhelmed by the power of the World Bank. They say, \"Well, after all, there's nothing that I can do but sit down and let things happen.\" I'm not denying the reality of what you're talking about. Yes, here please and then...\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 3] You have explained the conditions of the perception of the news and the theology and also the political hardware since the condition of the whole. But precise in the causes of those permitted to be poor. What makes the society poor? What creates the economic conditions that are pervasive in societies like Central America? As one a specific answer to create those parts that create new societies where the relations of poverty are going to be covered from with also a perception of religion because always the Latin American society leads conditions of poverty the perception of religion and how do you come across to a couple ways that they can start to change?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Yes. What I tried to emphasize was that this perception of poverty with religion is what is changing in Latin America. Religion, Christian faith, is being perceived more and more not as the support and legitimizer of poverty but as a concern for over , the image of Jesus is not the image of the one who said to the poor stay as you are, but the one who tried to raise up the poor and to overcome sickness and poverty and marginalization and deprivation. So, at this point, I think there is a change in the meaning of the religious symbol. And that is what I tried to emphasize. Now, if you take this seriously then you have to face the question, how is it done? And then you have to move to the level of sociological and economic analysis, which is what you are calling for. What are the causes of poverty, and therefore what are the ways of overcoming poverty? Now I did not get into that because that would lead us into a very long discussion. But I would say that in Latin American theology, that is a very important question. The question that your religious commitment in order to become effective socially has to be mediated by sociological analysis and understanding of economic factors and political factors and so on and therefore has to be mediated by or so political action, not as theologians, but as human beings, as citizens, as part of the life of the people.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Yeah, we'll take one more question. And then we have lots of food over there for our reception so that you can continue a discussion. Plus tomorrow, the hour at the maintenance shop is designed for participation. You can stay here, I'm sure, for many hours. We won't do that tonight. So I invite you back tomorrow at noon to continue this discussion. To continue this discussion right now one more question in the back.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 4] In America, we're taking on the appearance of a third world nation. In the inner cities, we're seeing the same things happening as in the third world. In my opinion, the churches are appeasing power structures. And the churches needs to stand on the side of poor. I don't see this happening in America. I don't see a global awareness in America. I see the press becoming more concentrated in the power structure. What do you see as your role of the press not only in the third world, but in America? I just got through reading a newspaper that was talking about an organization called Project Uncensored. Picks out ten stories that do not get the light of day in this country. And one of them was the Bush contract, drug connection. How do we bring morality back into the press, and back in the power structure, and back into our big government?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] I don't know. If I could answer that type of question, I would certainly be at a different place. But I agree with you. The fact that really the information that you get, that we get, all from the mass media is not only misinformation, it is disinformation. It is painting a picture of reality which is not true and hiding to what extent it's on purpose or to what extent it is simply the ideology that leads them to hide elements of reality. And I think that you have to use all the political means at your disposal to change that. But I realize that this is a very important battle. I have sometimes thought that churches could do something in providing alternative information. And some things are being done. I was in Canada about four or five years ago in the winter that was much worse than anything that you have here now. But I was really surprised by the amount of information that the members of of local congregations had about the world issues that they didn't get from the television or from the radio. But they got it from the churches, from church bulletins, from church publications. The church was doing, at that point, a job of giving alternative information. That really, I was very much surprised. I was saying today to Russel, I met a congregation in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan with about 20 degrees below zero in an evening, there were elderly people there. And they had questions that emerged from a knowledge of things that really surprised me. Now, I don't think the churches are doing that to the full extent that they can. You have, for instance, most of the large churches here have made good pronouncements on economic corridors. If you take what the Catholic bishops have said about the economy of this country, what the Presbyterian Church, the Episcopalian Church the United Church of Christ have said about the economy in terms of the global situation in this country some of the things that you are saying about the growing poverty about the ghettos and so on. I don't think that has got down to the congregation. And I think that there is a gap there in communication. And to fill in that gap, it would be very, very important for raising the consciousness of the population of this country. But those are some of the little things that can be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40882/file/112699#t=0.0,1521.216"}]}]}]}