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Is currently teaching a course in the Frank Capra and Hollywood cinema. Bernard Dick is Professor of English and Comparative Literature at Fairleigh Dickinson University. His books include \"Radical Innocence\" a critical study of the Hollywood Ten in line with what today's lecture is about. And now like to introduce the Pogue reading Bernard Dick's lecture of the origins of McCarthyism.\r\n\r\n- I can't say I'm exactly happy to be here because it means that someone I liked very much you can't be. That's ironic in part, because this is a paper about people who were forced to use fronts or mouthpieces to distribute their work. It's doubly ironic because the mouth PCs doesn't work very well today. It's an interesting and eloquent paper and I will do my best and I beg your indulgence and I hope the water works. The title of the paper is the origins of McCarthyism. The story of the Hollywood Ten by Benard Dick. The name, normally not assumed consequently or their own names follow from character. Thus Chico and Dante's Inferno is aptly named for his name means hog. At the other extreme, is the what's in a name philosophy. Actually, there's a great deal. Another reason Proctor in Arthur Miller's the crucible will not allow his name to be solid. Is that his name is unique. I cannot have another in my life. The name is the outward mark of that unique person that is oneself. If that is blackened, the self is diminished. If that name is removed from the bearer so that the bearer becomes nameless that uniqueness, which is each person's right to possess, is destroyed. Being blacklisted, relegates the individual to anonymity. For a writer, our name means the difference between acknowledgement and oblivion. If the writer uses the front, another receives the credit. If a writer uses a pseudonym the credit literally goes to a non entity. Names are important. And another Arthur Miller play after the fall, Nikki a former party member tells his friend Lou they should both go before the committee and name names. The idea of being the each was named the other. Nikki phrases his request, and a gentlemanly fashion. Lou is incredulous. Let me understand, are you asking my permission to name me? Lou subsequent speech in which he argues that if everyone broke faith, there would be no civilization is far from gentlemen Lee. However, if one is getting screwed there's no reason to behave like a gentlemen. Naming names there, something odious about it. Perhaps it all goes back to the allegorical garden where a man implicated if not his wife, then his rib. The woman you've placed at my side gave me fruit from the tree and I ate. A male student hands in a paper, filled with misspellings and typos and gets a deservedly low grade. My girlfriend types it, he blurts out, pity of the girlfriend. Naming names is easy but it also gives a third party control over the one who is named. This is how lists are compiled. Lists of the prescribed and lists of the unemployable. The principle behind the carthyism is ancient. Hence McCarthyism can also be one of those terms that has become timeless because implicit in, it is a situation that is also timeless. The interweaving of accusation and hysteria. Hysteria is induced by an imagined or exaggerated conspiracy leading to the naming of those involved in it. There's a little difference in saying I saw George Jacobs with the devil and I was assigned to a unit composed of those party members who were like myself members of the group theater. And then in numerating names as Elliot Cazan did in 1952. Four years earlier in may of 1947 when HUAC was conducting closed hearings in Hollywood, Jack Warner asked committee chairman J Parnell Thomas. Remember that name? Ask the committee, chairman J Parnell Thomas. Can I say something off the record? \"Put it on the record,\" Thomas answered, it seems that Warner had been in New York recently. Then I've seen him performance of Miller's all of my sons as he called it. And when someone infuriated by it, then he almost had a fist fight in the lobby. And it was directed by a chap called Eliya Cazan who is now at 20th century Fox. And this is in quotations. This fellow is also one of the mob. I pass him by, but won't talk to him, unquote. Ironically, Cazan was no longer a party member but that didn't stop Warner from naming him. He did after all director play about an aircraft manufacturer whose greed resulted in shoddy construction and ultimately the death of innocent fliers. May, 1947 was a critical in Hollywood. This the hysteria had not yet begun, that would not happen until the fall. But there was something unsettling about HUAC arrival in Los Angeles to begin its investigation of communists a version of the movie business. Today, with a so-called end of communism. And in some quarters, the end of history, the idea of communism in Hollywood sounds like a feeble joke. Indeed, one can imagine rhetorical texts if there are such things anymore using Hollywood columnist as an example of oxymoron instead of the traditional cheerful pessimist in sweet pain. But there were communists in Hollywood in 1947. There were communists in every field, even in the classroom but not for much longer or at least not as communists. There was also considerable diversity within a type generally considered mano linear. The Hollywood communist ranged from Stalinist who were few to the increasingly larger number of new deal Democrats, socialists and progressives. It is commonly believed that HUAC singled out the movies for investigation, rather than say the publishing world or academe because there was a certain glamour about Hollywood. Since the hearings will be broadcast and filmed for the newsreels, the audience would be greater if stars were in front of the microphone, rather than academics who would be more articulate, but less exciting. Oddly enough, the only stars turned out to be the friendly witnesses. Robert Taylor, Walt Disney, Ronald Reagan, Gary Cooper George Murphy, who are neither exciting nor articulate. Another reason HUAC targeted Hollywood was the belief that the unionization of the film industry which extended from actors to grips was I left wing attempt to radicalize a business whose purpose as stated in the preamble for the production code, was entertainment. The formation of the Screen Writers Guild was another attempt at the Hollywood intellectuals, another oxymoron, to control screen content. Thus the expressions Hollywood communist and Hollywood intellectual or Hollywood liberal for that matter were interchangeable. Interestingly, HUAC targeted the screenwriters believing it was mainly through the script that red propaganda reached the screen. This of course shows the committee's ignorance of the medium it was investigating. A true communist film like \"Potemkin or Strike\" is almost wordless except for a few intertitles that drama is visual. Potemkin advocates revolution by showing the human conditions that cause it. Hollywood never made a communist film, the system would not allow it. More important, Americans wouldn't see it. Soviet montage would drive American audiences up the wall and has been known to drive some students up the wall. But then as Elizabeth, the second told Kitty Carlisle Hart, when Mrs. Hart criticized British school education, quote it is good for the children if they survive it, unquote. And so is Soviet montage for budding Sydney asks. If the Hollywood left inserted propaganda into its scripts it was propaganda reduced to humanitarianism. Instead of comradeship, one spoke of brotherhood instead of preaching socialism, one preached adjusts society. One says, not power to the people but the earth belongs to the people as Anne Baxter says at the end of the \"North Star\" written by Lillian Hellman. The \"North Star\" from 1943 was one of a series of films that celebrated the Soviet Union's repulsion of the Nazi invaders. If there was a flowering of Russia affiliate in the 1940s it was only because it was breaking of the Nazi Soviet pact made Russia and a lie. And so the godless atheist communists as they were redundantly called run our side. In actually in \"The North Atlantic\" written by John Howard Lawson, Dean Clark is a merchant seaman on a Liberty ship transporting war material to Murmansk. At the end, he hears the sounds of planes. Looking up at the sky, he cries they're ours. Actually, they were Soviet planes but what was ours was theirs and vice versa. This was after all the time of land lease. To the left, the grand synthesis was about to occur. And if we could not throw a bridge over troubled waters, we could at least meet via them embracing our Soviet comrades at the elbow. That was a rare moment, unlike all such moments, it was short-lived. And so it was Hollywood, Russia Ophelia, another oxymoron. Russia phobia or Soviet caricature had been our norm in the NASCA a female Komisar played by Greta Garbo stops at a Paris Bistro. The proprietor asks her what she would like. And the NASCA says, \"Oh little father just some raw carrots and beets,\" to which the owner replies, \"Madam this is a restaurant, not a meadow.\" Russians would never be so amusing again nor would they be as noble as they were in the North star counter attack and the days of glory. When world war II ended, Southern American Russia phelia which had to be reckoned among the sins of the left along with the formation of the Screen Writers Guild premature anti-fascism, social consciousness films, unionism, studio strikes, supportive the loyalists in the Spanish civil war and membership in the Hollywood Anti-Nazi League and other progressive organizations. And HUAC would see that Hollywood paid for its sins. The May, 1947 hearings, which were so private that they made the front page of the New York times HUAC with enough names for the four hearings which would take place not in Los Angeles but in Washington, thus providing a national backdrop for an event that had international consequences. There was also the symbolic value of a Washington inquisition. The nation's capital would be a tribunal for those who would make it into the Kremlin. In the fall of 1947 subpoenas either 43 or 45. The exact number aren't clear. We're sent to a range of individuals from Sam Goldwyn and Charlie Chaplin to Trombone and Bertolt Brecht. The witnesses were labeled friendly and unfriendly. The friendly witnesses included those who have been gracious enough to appear in May and who would return in October to embellish what they had already divulged. The unfriendly witnesses number 19 soon to be known as the Hollywood, excuse me. Hollywood 19, 11 of whom would be called. The 11th was Bretch who admitted in somewhat guarded language that he had not been a communist then committee thanked him and he then left the witness seat and subsequently the country. With his departure there were 10, the unfriendly 10, the Hollywood Ten. When there were still 19 the unfriendlies reached a decision and by no means an easy one. To make the entire affair into a first amendment case, they met at the home of director Louis Milestone one of the 19th, but incidentally not a communist. They met there at the urging of Herbert JV Vermin who was a communist and his organizational powers were awesome. Lieberman may not have been a great screenwriter. And last one, consider his action in Arabia and the master race, great films. Still, he could have had a good career in the theater had he not embraced radical politics. Lieberman would have directed \"Green Grow the Lilacs\" for the theater Guild, the play on which Oklahoma was based. Yeah, Lieberman directed one of the greatest independent films ever made \"Salt of the Earth,\" which depicted the integrity of the working class, better than any one of other social consciousness movie and without resorting to low key photography or high angle shots to make the workers look oppressed. It was probably attorney George Kenny's idea, to make the investigation a first amendment test case. Supposedly, all agreed to abide by it. Bretch did not, although perhaps being an alien he thought the first amendment would not protect them. Whether Milestone, Howard Kotch or Irving Fishel, the three non communist of the 19. What have answered the argument now ever and have ever been questioned as a moot point since they were never called. The 10 did not answer the question. In other words, they did not take the fifth amendment which if they did, would apply either that they had something to hide or had done something of which they were ashamed. I stress this because in a recent PBS program, on the group theater there made it by Joanne Woodward John Howard Lawson, one of the 10 it said to have taken the fifth. We are still in 1947. The big decade for taking the fifth was the 50s when it was even possible to take the diminished fifth. In the 50s, the fifth that becomes something of a joke since even gangsters, didn't take it. Excuse me, since even gangsters were taking it. The 10th probably should have taken the fifth. Yet if they had, they would not have won the respect and admiration they subsequently did. The first, served their purpose because they wanted to show the Congress that it could not investigate what it could not legislate. Since Congress could not legislate one's politics, it should not investigate them either. There were problems with this approach. First, the United Front conjured up the image of a monolithic position. The car is taken by a hard line, reds. More important, radicals never fared well under the first amendment. In August of 1918, three anarchists and the socialists were convicted of sedition for circulating anonymous pamphlets on the lower East side, attacking President Wilson for intervening in the Russian revolution. Although justice Holmes to Seth, the sudden arguing that the first amendment guarantees freedom of speech and that the pamphlets did not threaten the government before were sentenced to 20 years. Freedom of expression is a noble idea unless there is a clear and present danger a phrase that can be variously applied. Certainly in 1947, there seemed to be a clear and present danger, if not clear and imminent danger. Three years later, when the 10 went off to jail the danger seems to be clear and arm the present. However, in October of 47 the 10 hope that their statements, which they were prevented from reading would establish themselves as loyal Americans and they would win their case. Dalton Trumbo, who otherwise. When Alva Bessie asked Trumbo what he thought would happen, Trumbo without hesitating said, \"We're going to jail.\" And then the they did. The October hearings lasted nine days. Each of the 10 unfriendly witnesses had been heard and dismissed from the witness stand for refusing to answer the, are you now or have you ever been questioned, which is the freedom of expression. What the effort is to obscenity by . The real reason the investigation did not last the schedule two weeks, was a wining of interest, coupled with Thomas' desire to get to what he thought would be the resist thoughts and announcement the 10 were atomic spies. The illogic was extraordinary. It seemed that some of the 10 knew a Louise Brandston who knew a George Ellenton who worked for shell. And Ellen's knew a Berkeley scientist who had tried to get classified information from J Robert Oppenheimer. Eriko the tongue had been into the Manhattan project. And so 10 individuals became 10 subversives, staffed with a label that no more reflected their diversity than any umbrella term does. They were indicted on the same charge contempt but did not receive the same sentence. While eight received the year, Dmytryk later became an informant and Liberman got six months. Even if the 10 had prevailed or the convictions then overturned, their lives and the lives of virtually everyone who had ever been even slightly left of center, would have been affected. Between 1947 and 1950, the \"Red Scare\" had become the red menace. With or without HUAC XL, there would have been a blacklist. Even if HUAC hearings had never been held, China would still fall into the communist. There still would have been in his case. The Rosenbergs and the Korean war or police action ex-President Truman called it, all of that would have happened. All of these events were unrelated to HUAC which itself fell under the rubrics of the cold war. If Miller's the crucible and UNESCO's rhinoceros are accurate in their portrayal of a society that had become so polarized that it literally becomes a case of the one versus the many. The one would either go to his death like John Proctor or out into the street, like UNESCO's Berenger to face the hordes clamoring for him to join them. But to do so he must become a rhinoceros himself. He toys with the idea of becoming one of them wondering whether a hide, whether I hide is better than a skin or a role better than language. Resistance may be absurd but conformity is worse. Quote, I'll take on the whole lot of them on the last man left. And I was staying that way until the end. I'm not perpetuating, unquote. We don't know what happens to Baron J except that he reappears in some other UNESCO place. But we do know what happened to the 10 and the other victims of the blacklist. In some way or other, there lives wouldn't be changed. There was bound to be an investigation just as there are bound to be war trials after a war ends. Historians can argue about the date of the cold Wars beginning, as they argue about the date of Vietnam although I am not an historian yet it is my third love after literature and film. I prefer 1946 for both. For it was in 1946 that the first Indochina war began ending eight years later with DMV and food. It was also in 1946 that Winston Churchill gave us iron curtain speech which legitimized the cold war and which Hollywood legitimize two years later in a film appropriately entitled \"The Iron Curtain\" followed a year later by eyeing their eight communist. The film that asked the question, what would you do if you married a communist or were to strike fear in the heart of any decent American woman? I realize it is difficult for students who have witnessed one of the century's most significant events which will be either the collapse or transformation of communism to go back 40 years to the time of the Hollywood Ten without comparing them with Ceausescu and Hanukkah. Actually, the 10 would have applauded the revolution in Eastern Europe because like Charles Foster Kane who was ultimately called a communist and a fascist. They too could say, as Kane did, I am, have been and always will be one thing, an American. And that is what most of the Hollywood radicals were, Americans. Specifically, American anti-fascists. Some premature anti-fascists as if one can't be an anti-fascist early enough. But if that's all they were, why was there a witch hunt? I'd like to become personal at this point, irony here and explain how one person that a mature anti-fascist and in so doing, describe the climate of the times and how they shaped one individual. I was 10 when world war II ended and it spent the warriors like many children at the movies. If Pauline Kael could claim to have lost it at the movies, I can claim to have found it at the movies. It being the spirit of anti-fascism, which I attribute to a great extent to such movies as \"Tomorrow The World\" written by Ring Lardner, Jr \"None Shall Escape\" written by Lester Cole. And perhaps the one that left the deepest impression \"Pride of the Marines\" written by Albert Maltz. We were Lithuanian and live them what I thought of as a neighborhood until a sociologist friend of mine told me it was a ghetto. Let's upgrade it and call it an Eastern European enclave. The people next door and across the street where Russia and there were Polish families up the block. There was rarely any friction, except for those occasions when the polls would call us look backs and we would retaliate and call them Polacks. But for the most part, there was harmony. About 1946 the atmosphere started to change. I would overhear conversations between my mother and then who had served in the war speaking bitterly about the Russians and their behavior when they entered Berlin in the spring of 1945. I later learned but the rape of Berlin was afraid to be taken literally. Suddenly everything changed. We were not the same as we were, and God knows our teachers weren't either. One day, when I was in the 7th grade our teacher came into the classroom in a state of shock. And for claim that the Reader's Digest had gone communist which was a neat trick given the fact that the Reader's Digest is the most unoriginal publication in existence. Even the idiom was interesting. Go communist, like go Hollywood. We began hearing so much about the communist and I began to wonder what they looked like. The Nazis I knew who could miss them but what were communists like? Although my grandmother always remained on friendly terms with our Russian neighbors, I began to wonder about them. Could it be that Mr Slagan and Mr. Stankovic were communists? They were certainly humorless. And the absence of a sense of humor is surely the mark of a communist. I finally concluded that Mr. Stankovich was not a communist, but Mr. Slagan could be. He had bushy eyebrows and read those funny papers with strange print. But the clincher was that the slogans kept the geese. We, on the other hand were assimilated. We kept chickens. I'll grant you, I was not being very logical but this wasn't exactly the age of reason. The communist is other. The communist is that, which is not odd. It was not all that different from the way anti-Semites and racists think thus anti-Semitism and racism were favorite themes in left wing screenplays because the Hollywood left regarded anti-Semitism and racism as more virulent strains of fascism. There is a common thread running through the work of the Hollywood left. And that is the portrayal of fascism as a threat to the natural equality of all human beings. \"Crossfire\" produced by Adrian Scott and directed by Edward Dmytryk. Two of the 10 treats the anti-Semitism as fascism the anti-Semite Maltz Robert Ryan is a right-wing militarist whose twin poles of experience are the American mother and the American wasps. Both of which were identical in the sense that the only good American mothers are wasps and conversely, the only good Jew is a dead Jew. When the left went after fascism, it went for the juggler. It was precisely the less unremitting anti-fascism that made it difficult for HUAC to distinguish between the work of communist screenwriters and anti-fascist scripts by liberals. Well, HUAC lacked integrity in the popular sense of the word. It also lacked it in the more restricted sense of ignorance of the whole. Thus, it could only look for phrases, allusions storylines no wonder some winners fought gentleman's agreement was subversive because it Derrick could suggest that a very gentlemanly way that there were restricted hotels and communities in the land of the free. By contrast, \"Crossfire\" all that rubbed America's nose and its anti-semitism. That's Maltz killing of Samuel's the Jew is that a senseless as the Holocaust and therefore as frightening because there was no reason for it except paranoia. Well, the left did not pull punches, while pride of the Marines did not deal with anti-Semitism and such. It did include a character who was clearly identified as a Jew, something many films in the theory had failed to do. In the most world war II movies, the only time you knew there was a Jew in the film was it Sam Levine were in it. In the film, \"Lee Diamond\" played by Dane. Clark is returning to civilian life. He is not saying what about it, since it means returning to an America where he will not be welcomed because his name is Diamond, and because he celebrates Passover instead of Easter. If this is ideology, it is ideology reduced to humanitarianism. Ideology purged the partisanship and reduced it to the common denominator of the human condition. Hence HUAC was totally wrong, when it said that the script was the source of propaganda. HUAC was no more concern with scripts than it was with truth. To the committee, the script of gentleman's agreement read no differently from \"Crossfire.\" HUAC one of the victims and got them. Yet by a delicious stroke of irony, one of the victimizers became a victim himself. On November 8th, 1948, J Parnell Thomas was indicted for the fraud in the US Treasury. The charge carried a maximum penalty of 32 years imprisonment. Thomas was convicted and sentenced to serve eight months to two years. He was sent to Danbury Federal Correction Institute in Connecticut, where he enjoyed a strange reunion with two of the 10 Lester Cole and Ring Lardner Jr, who were also serving their sentences there. In autobiography, Hollywood read Lester Cole describes Thomas's prison duties which consisted of cleaning the chicken coop. Quote, my own personal confrontation with Thomas came when the hay was ready to be cut. And I along with others was handed and put to work, cutting. My work took me to the chicken yards where a top one of the coops was Thomas scraping chicken droppings from the roof to which the hens would often fly. He saw me and no doubt feeling secure with an eight foot barbed wire fence between us called down, \"Hey Bolshie, I see you still got your sickle where's your hammer?\" And I yelled back that I see just like in Congress you're still picking up chicken, unquote. And from then on, he was politely addressed as Congressman chickenshit. Congressman and Thomas got his sentence reduced to nine months, thanks to the president chairman. And then returned to his home in New Jersey, where he drank himself to death. But irony cannot balance the scales. Actually, they can never be balanced. History has decreed otherwise. The era that Dalton and Trumbo called the time of the toad, saw the convergence of two forces the inevitable and the unpredictable. And trying to reconstruct the events leading up to it when feels they could not have happened any other way that there were going to be hearings. That if HUAC could not initiated them, McCarthy would have. And so the inquisition would have started in the Senate with the state department and the army escape goats and then it spread to Hollywood and Broadway. Yet even after US establish a nexus of cause and effect, there remains something beyond and outside of the historical, the morality of the blacklist. How are we to feel about the informants? The ones who named the names many of them were quite prominent and highly creative. Budd Schulberg, Clifford Odets, Budd Schulberg Edward Dmytryk, Michael Gordon, Sterling Hayden Lloyd Bridges, Jerome Robbins. One can well understand as while many blacklists these still refuse to speak to informants. First of all, the informants prospered in their careers. The exception perhaps being Larry Parks who may have groveled too much when the mere naming of names might have done it. Yet something drove these informants to the party even though they became disillusioned with it there was still a reason to cause them to join the party to join up parties, excuse me that promised to fulfill their needs and expectations. Their basic instincts were good. They believed in the betterment of humankind which would be impossible under fascism. Thus, they joined the party, that was unilaterally opposed to fascism. The end was noble. The means dubious yet that gave him the right to name those who believe in the same end. Ironically, many of the blacklist fees felt more deeply about people in the party, which was only a minor aspect of their lives that they did not disassociate themselves from it sooner may simply mean they believe in some kind of vague socialist future. That they valued the friendships that have been formed there or simply that they enjoyed the sense of camaraderie that came from being with people who thought along the same lines. There's one pay the price for past associations. Can one with the same associations force another to pay that price? The time of the toad in addition to being morally ambivalent was also immoral. Everyone knows that the performing arts and the writing profession are subject to Fortune's wheel. While an actor might undergo a succession of flops or long stretches of being at Liberty, at least the actor cannot say, that he or she was prevented from working. If writers can get their work published even if it is unfavorably reviewed they at least have not been stopped from writing. What is it moral about the blacklist is that it deliberately caused the cessation of careers, appropriating to man what is under, if not God's jurisdiction, then faith. And artist's life is erratic because it depends on variables that the rest of us take for granted. We are not affected by changing styles of acting or storyteller, they are. Screenwriters often wait years before their scripts reached the screen. It is one thing for a script to go into turnaround, or to be on the verge of being produced where all of a sudden the new regime takes over the studio. It is something else, to have one script sabotage because someone detest your politics. If as Cassie says in a chorus line a dancer dances, that a writer writes and an actor acts. To prevent them from doing so is to deprive them of their craft. I once learned that there were four sins that cried to heaven for vengeance. But I can only remember one, the oppression of widows. I will add a fourth, the suppression of artists. I said at the outset that there are certain words that bridge the years. Communism is not one of them. There's an enormous difference between the way communism is practiced in monastic communities and the way it is practiced in Albania. Since history has many cunning corridors, it is possible to get lost in them, particularly in the corridor of equivalency. Because of the absence of knowledge, or the need for over simplification. We tend to create equations that help us remember periods and movements. Neoclassicism, drive an equal Pope equal Johnson. Romanticism, Wordsworth, equal Coleridge, equal Shelly equal Keats equal vibrant. Communism, mark SQL Lennon equal, equal Stalin equal Dashiell Hammett, equal Lillian Hellman equal Langston Hughes, equal Gus Hall, equal Angela Davis, equal Ceausescu. This is reducing history to an umbrella that needs as many folks as possible to keep it up. But this approach will continue, as long as there are overly zealous teachers who wants to simplify complex material and students who want the material simplified. As a result, there will be outlines lists, schemata, summaries of events and catalogs of names. The Hollywood Ten were American anti-fascists and that is the best label, something as slippery as the English language can offer. I asked the young particularly to learn, to make distinctions since the ability to distinguish is a mark of the educated mind. I hope you will take your cue from Brexit poem to posterity. And when she asks those born after him, to look at his generation, not from their perspective, but from him, but from his which is the only way that hindsight can be fair. And this was the Breck poem. \"You who shall emerge from the flood in which we are sinking think when you speak of our weaknesses and of the dark time that brought them forth.\" We went changing our country more often than our shoes in the class war, the spirit when there was only injustice and no resistance. We knew only too well that hate this figures to face and anger against injustice makes the voice grow harsh. Alas! We who wish to lay the foundations of kindness could not ourselves be kind but you, when at last it comes to pass that none can help his fellow man. Do not judge us too harshly. There are some expressions that transcend time and can be applied to any period. Chronology has never stopped critics from applying Freudianism to pre Freud in literature and Greek tragedy is about as as one can get. Anyone believing in something as archaic as plot is, Dublin Aristotelian. One even reads about the romantic movement in antiquity inaugurated supposedly by the Latin love poets. If there can be romanticism in classical times and for idealism in pre classical times there can be witch hunts at any time. Certainly the word was not part of our political vocabulary any more than cold war and iron curtain work to tell around mid century. might debate the exact year but certainly after January 22, 1953, when Arthur Miller's the crucible opened on Broadway it was impossible not to equate the HUAC acquisition with the Salem witchcraft trials. HUAC was full swing and Miller himself would appear before the committee three years later. Incidentally, I realize HUAC is the wrong acronym for the house committee on un-American activities. It should be HACU, which is more like a response to what the committee represents, then an acronym. So if the purist will forgive me, I'll stick to HUAC. Actually I should've said HACU now that I think about it, I just got the joke. At any rate, the reason that John Proctor in the crucible gives for not disclosing the names of non witches is his own name. How may I live without my name? I have given you my soul. Leave me my name. Bernard Dick thanks you, and I thank you for your patience.\r\n\r\n- Then we can get it started.\r\n\r\n- Well, thank you\r\n\r\n- I do need the technology today. I had stood there and you couldn't, okay. What I was suggesting was that we might want to try to talk about his paper a little bit. I'm in the same position as you are for the most part. Are there things we should think about here?\r\n\r\n- It isn't part of the problems Images are subject to interpretation and any of the films that came out and or supportive of the kind of system that condemn a number of people.\r\n\r\n- I think the point that Dick is trying to get at is that labels amount to interpretive hypotheses. Once you attach a label, you will search for those elements of the artifacts which confirm it. And apparently HUAC was very skilled at attaching their preferred labels and then finding just what they wanted. And I think you're right to say that in the 40s context there was enough overlap where you could get what you wanted out of this stuff. I think his point is that they were bad interpreters not only of the text, the specific film texts but of a larger text of history sort of wildly strong miss readers is what it amounts to. 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Couldn't call it a technique, was it either 'c'?\r\n\r\n- He tended to use both in the paper. And I must admit, I cannot tell you what the principle of variation is.\r\n\r\n- Well, I always thought that the capital letter 'c' means they're members of the Communist Party and I see it in the Hollywood world, like.\r\n\r\n- The basic fact here is that there was a very active communist party in Hollywood in the thirties. There were a lot of people who belonged to it. All of the people who were called, at least as I understand this, you know, the unfriendlies, had, in fact, at least according to this paper, been, you know, members of the Communist Party in the same way that I'm a member of Amnesty International. Which is to say you sent them a check, I would imagine. And then after that, it's a question of whether you actually go to the meetings and so on. In that sense, and by your usage, we're talking capital 'c'.\r\n\r\n- Was he suggesting that that teachers give up lists and diagrams and schema in order to not simplify history? And if so, I don't understand, you know, does he have any suggestions but how are we to organize that information in our heads? You know, it'd be great if we could spend a lot of time on each subject in history but a lot of teachers, especially in high school, don't have the time.\r\n\r\n- Well, I remember the passage that you're speaking of. I imagine his reply would be something like this, that the HUAC witch hunt represents the reductio ad absurdum of the habit of attaching labels. I don't think he would say that lists and schemata and frameworks are pointless. And I would agree with you, we need them, we use them. Part of the catch is that sometimes we take them as encompassing truths which they are not capable of encompassing. So for example, I understand what he means when he says \"Neoclassicism: Pope, Dryden, Swift.\" Or maybe it was Pope, Dryden, and Johnson, I forget. I also know that there's a whole lot of difference between Dryden and Johnson. And putting them together with equal signs runs a risk. I would prefer to put the names on the page, no equal signs in big brackets, as encompassing them within a framework and leaving open to question the precise relations among them. I imagine he would probably agree with that. So I think there's a middle ground between no schemata, which is to be, you know, complete babbling idiocy, and overly simple schemata which have the, both the capacity and the reality of dehumanizing people, which is to say another version of babbling idiocy. Other questions, Jim?\r\n\r\n- Well, it's interesting in his point that he says over and over again how these hearings would have been held anyway maybe starting in the Senate, but they were inevitable. And yet at the same time, there was no legislative purpose. I'm wondering if you'd like to comment from your experience, what do you think was the real reason these hearings were in fact held. Why was there not too many, other than some rather nondescript, unimportant Congressmen getting a lot of publicity? Just what was that?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'll give you a complete speculation but I think there may be a germ of truth in it. And I wish at this point I knew the party affiliations of the members of that committee. But I think it is generally accepted that Hollywood was sort of pro-war, long before Pearl Harbor, that it had jumped on the fascism question early in the game. And a sense that Roosevelt and the Democratic Party had in some ways used Hollywood films as propaganda for siding with Britain. You know, there's a whole long history here of Lend-Lease and all the bills that went along with that. And the weird apotheosis of this came once the war started. And the first thing they did was hire Frank Capra to run the propaganda arm of the U.S. army. George Marshall said, \"Here, you are going to make \"the films which will explain to the soldiers \"what we're fighting for.\" And Capra made the \"Why We Fight\" series. And at the beginning of that, he was very anxious and he asked Marshall, \"You know, gee, I don't know what our policy is.\" And Marshall says, \"We'll make it up. \"And if we don't like it, we'll tell you.\" So Capra just went off and did it. As it happens, I just seen almost all of that \"Why We Fight\" series, it was on arts and entertainment like about a month ago, spent a lot. And historiographically there's some wild stuff like, you know, doing a whole Battle of China without one mention of Mao or the Communist Party. And this is supposed to be a history of the Japanese invasions and all of the events leading up to American intervention. So historically, that's obviously, it seems to be a crux. Then you get to the last film in the series, \"War Comes to America\". In many ways, that's a wild twin of \"Meet John Doe\", which he did in 1941. A lot of the same images, a lot of the same visual strategies. And it's pretty clear that the America the war comes to is Hollywood. And it's Frank Capra's America, war came to. And I think in some ways it's sort of an astonishing honesty that Capra would end the sequence with that kind of admission. But what that does is it lends some credence to the notion that Hollywood was deeply engaged in constructing pictures of our country and its relations and its interests which would have the effect of making people do things. So, you know, the anxiety about the influence of Hollywood, I think, and especially its connection with the Democratic Party. What was McCarthy?\r\n\r\n- You know, these committees would normally be bipartisan, not necessarily equal, but-\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Both parties.\r\n\r\n- You know, Little jumped into McCarthyism just as, almost as much. leaders and he went right by him.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Affected black people just as much.\r\n\r\n- There's another raw factor and that's that through the course of its lifetime, as an art form, cinema has not enjoyed universal approval. There's always been a strong anti-cinema element in the American populace. Look at all the brouhaha about \"The Last Temptation of Christ\". And you can trace that all the way back to the Fatty Arbuckle case and the Hays Code and the Motion Picture Ratings Association. And now with their bit about lyrics and so on and so forth. There's always been that kind of censorious strain of American culture, and which is in a way an implicit acknowledgement that popular culture has power. And the question is how to manipulate it. Well, Hollywood obviously manipulates it well enough. It continues as an institution. If it were better at manipulating it, there would be fewer flops. And that there are so many flops means that it's not a science, it's an art. And for that, I am grateful. But that fear of manipulation, that fear of mass media, is a longstanding strain in American culture. So, you know, I think there are a lot of cultural, you know, both long-term and more short-term streams flooding into that general issue of the HUAC investigations. Well, it looks like we're dribbling our audience away and my voice is about shot. Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40897/file/112728#t=0.0,562.512"}]}]}]}