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I'd like to thank the ISU Lectures Committee for bringing us the speaker tonight. His name is Roger Molander. A bit of a background I think will help. He's a small town Wisconsin boy, BS, mechanical engineering from Wisconsin. He did his PhD engineering science from Berkeley. He's worked in Washington on nuclear war issues for the last 15 years, in the Pentagon from 1973 to '74, and on the National Security Council staff from '74 to '81 in the end of the Nixon through the Ford and through the Carter administrations. Since last year, he's been executive director along with founder for the Ground Zero National organization. The book put out by Ground Zero and written by a staff, along with Roger, is called \"Nuclear War: What's in It for You?\" And I told him, I'd give a voluntary plug. It's a excellent introduction and study in this issue. So, I'd like to thank Roger for coming out to Ames and presenting to you now. We will go probably till nine, if he has that much material and then we'll break for questions and after questions, coffee will be brought up. So, you're welcome to stay and we have no end in sight for the night, so, unfortunately for Roger. Roger Molander.\r\n\r\n- If you don't mind, I'm going to get this off because even though I ended up in Washington, I still don't feel comfortable in these kinds of outfits, I will probably talk for maybe about 40 minutes. Hopefully not that long. It depends on how much I go on. But I will try and give you a little perspective on what's happening now, kind of our part in Ground Zero, your parts for some of you in what's happening in the country. And maybe talk a little bit about the future of Ground Zero and the future of this issue generally. And therein engage in sort of outright speculation because what's happening on this issue is as unpredictable as anything could possibly be. Certainly over the last few months, probably since very early this year, we have seen a remarkable growth in American interest and concern about the nuclear war issue. It is a growth that has been a source of awe to the media, to politicians, and to, if you will, observers of the contemporary American scene and they keep asking, you know, \"Why did it happen? How did it happen? \"Can it be sustained? \"And what does it all mean for the future?\" Not only in terms of what happens in this country, but also I think in particular, in terms of our dealing with the Soviet Union and other countries beyond our borders. What I will do is run through my version. We, in Ground Zero, have been a close to at least a part of what has been happening, but it's still just our version of a little bit of the history. And there'll be a lot of probably revisionist history written about this period because it happened so fast that people are still trying to, as I say, figure out just what it was. But underneath it all, I would call attention to another question beyond the why, how and what does it all mean types of questions, which is a question that is on the minds of many people these days. And it's a question which I would characterize, should I be involved? Is something happening here that I should be a part of? I see some friends and neighbors and colleagues involved in this. Should I be a part of it? And I would say that is the question to which there is an unambiguous answer. And the answer is yes. Not only should you be a part of it, but for those of you who have not already, but in fact you must be a part of it. Because in fact, what is happening is really classically a democratic thing. The issue of how to prevent nuclear war is being taken up by the people of this country. And when the founding fathers decided that the best way to run this place was to have a democracy, it was with the full faith that, in fact, that was the way the ultimate kinds of national decisions, that issue of national security should be made. And as we all know, democracy works best when the largest number of people in are involved and they are as well-informed as they possibly could be. Because make no mistake about it, the issue of how to prevent nuclear war is at least in part in the hands of the people of this country and what we should be looking to, and I think in fact, what we are looking to is a future in which there will be a partnership between citizens, government experts, if you will, and elected officials as we try and find a solution to this problem. So then, why in fact did this happen in this country this year? Why after 37 years of basically leaving the issue of preventing nuclear war to elected officials and the experts, which sometimes we refer to ourselves as a, as almost a national security or a nuclear priesthood, why after 37 years of leaving this issue in the hands of that community of people are the people of this country insisting on being involved? The simple answer is, of course, a lack of faith in that community in whose hands this problem has been, a lack of confidence that nuclear war will not occur. That's very simply what it is. A feeling that rightly or wrongly, obviously well-intentioned, obviously quite competent people, have been unable to get a handle on this most ultimate problem. And it's really a lack of confidence in the path that we are on. Obviously, nuclear war has not occurred and we all hope and pray that it will not occur, but as people look to the future, they really don't have the confidence that they want. Young people, and I think that's sort of at the level of teenagers, which is one of the most powerful things that's happening, and one of the most disturbing, don't have that confidence in the future, which we all know to be really critical to, if you will, getting on that magic train that takes you from working hard to the point in life where you can say, \"Look, I did something with my life.\" And the debilitating effect of that is disturbing to a lot of people, but why? Why now are people sort of have they, are they expressing this loss of faith? I liken it in some ways to passengers on a canoe who for a long time have basically left a few paddles in the hands of a very small number of people. And they now, you know, hear a low roar coming down the river. And, you know, millions of Americans are literally taking up paddles saying that \"I don't know where this business is going, \"but maybe I can help. \"Maybe I can help keep it from happening.\" Now, to understand the reasons in, if you will, my guess, best guess, at how this happened, you have to go back to the Cuban missile crisis, which I think was a trigger point and a real benchmark. And certainly to now the quintessential event of the nuclear age. The gods picked the United States and the Soviet Union up by the nape of the neck and basically said, \"Look, it really can happen.\" And the more we know about that crisis, the more we know how close we actually came to nuclear war at that time. But out of that experience, both superpowers were really sobered and shaken and it ushered in nearly two decades of what I would characterize as roughly honest and forthright efforts to get this nuclear war problem under control on the part of both the Soviet Union and United States, generally serious, at times a little halfhearted, but generally serious. But focusing on what I would characterize as trying to find a technical solution to the problem, a solution in weapons systems and arms control agreements, where one would try and develop a complement of weapons systems, missiles, and bombers on the one hand and a set of constraints on the other hand, on our arsenal and that of the Soviet Union, on the growth of the spread of nuclear weapons to other countries, but a sort of technical solution that would make us all feel confident that nuclear war would not occur. And it is really that strategy, the search for a technical solution, the search for a magic formula, magic combination of weapons systems and arms control agreements that has failed. And that is what I think the people of this country know. Now, the history of the failure is fairly well known to students of this business and to most people, the building of bigger and more powerful weapons, gradually pulling ahead of the SALT negotiations and other efforts at controlling them, the failure to control the spread of either nuclear weapons technology, nor the materials to make nuclear weapons, to countries of dubious stability, Iraq, maybe getting nuclear weapons, Qaddafi maybe getting the bomb at sometime in the future. And then also then sort of the, I would say, the failure to improve relationships, which everyone knows is seminal to the issue of whether nuclear war would occur. The final straws in this, I would say, came at about the same period of time and really accounted in large measure for the triggering of the effect that you saw build to a crescendo the last few months. And those occurred in the period of late 1979, early 1980, and the first was the failure of the SALT negotiations, the failure of the SALT II treaty, which I was among the people that was closely associated with, to gain popular support in this country. The treaty had gone signed in June of '79, had gone before the Senate. Things had gone fairly well in the opening series of hearings in the Armed Services Committee and the Foreign Relations Committee. But then there was an issue of Soviet combat troops in Cuba. You know, \"What's going on there? \"I thought there weren't supposed to be any, \"how long have they been there for?\" The Secretary of State, Cyrus Vance, saying the status quo was unacceptable and suddenly the specter of the Russians. And can you trust them being raised? And the American people basically slowing down a process that was, would otherwise have probably led to SALT II ratification by the Senate in the fall of 1979, but instead it was a, \"Hey, not so fast\" message that the American people were giving to the leaders in Washington. The second event was a, if you will, the, in the weapons system area where the MX mobile ICBM system, so to the less, latest, next best system to emerge from the weapons system community kind of coming to the American public and coming first to Nevada and Utah, two states with very strong, if you will, conservative traditions, very, very pragmatic, if you will, approach to the whole national security issue, taking up the issue of whether the MX was a good idea. And over the time period of late 1979 through early and mid-1980, in some ways, and I think it was one of the early sort of bellwethers for us, the States of Nevada and Utah, a very small percentage of the population went through a ground zero experience, went through learning about the issue of the MX, what it really meant for national security, whether their communities were going to be targeted in a nuclear war with or without MX and coming to the conclusion that, and rightly so, that with or without MX, most of Nevada and Utah was going to be targeted in a nuclear war. And so, they faced the issue of would MX be a net plus or a net minus in their view on the issue of whether nuclear war would occur. And they came out to the conclusion, I think, that it would probably be a wash, maybe, maybe not. And besides it came with all this baggage, impact on the environment, economic impact, all this stuff that was not appealing to them. And a very small percentage of this country, maybe 5% of the people in this country, less than that, made the decision on a major weapon system for the rest of us. And they said, \"No.\" They said, \"This doesn't make sense.\" And it was very interesting, not only for the fact that it happened there, but also the fact, of course, that nowhere else in the country did people leap in and say, \"Oh, well, put it here.\" That was not the response. And yet this was, as I say, a weapons system that was supported by both Democratic and Republicans, generally. I mean, Ronald Reagan sort of at one time took potshots at it, it may very, it's right now back on, if you will, one of the options lists. But it was clearly supported by the establishment that sort of had in its hands the responsibility for these nuclear war issues and the people rejected it. The third thing that came to pass during the same period of time, and it was certainly the final nail in the coffin of SALT was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which told people just how bad U.S. Soviet relations had become. Now, nobody has ever been happy with the Soviet Union for the, you know, the last 37 years, but that step, it was like their invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968. And people thought we'd put that kind of thing behind us, but it showed just how strained and how unsuccessful the effort to improve U.S. Soviet relations had become. So there you had these three factors, the failure of the flagship of the arms control part of the strategy, SALT, the failure of, if you will, the newest and best flagship of the weapons systems side of the strategy. And at the same time, this testimony to how out of control U.S. Soviet relations had come. And it was in that period that we started Ground Zero, I guess, sort of being very close to it, recognizing that, in fact, an old strategy had run out of gas and there was a question of what the new strategy was going to be. And how in fact was it going to be developed? It was in that period that we in Ground Zero, and why don't I come back a little bit later to sort of some of these early history, but decided that that not only did people need education, but that people would want basic education on this kind of issue. That as people came to realize that the nuclear war issue was really out of control in the sense that one could not give people the confidence they wanted, there's plenty enough things in the world to worry about. You know, God forbid you should have to worry about being blown away in 30 minutes. It's just another burden people didn't want. And yet, it had come upon us. And legitimately. People were right. The issue really was not under control. That, from there on in, I think you can account for the growth in large measure, by what I call kind of a knothole effect. Like there's been this fence around a, like a construction site and behind it for 15 odd years, as I say, the priesthood and the elected officials were pursuing a particular strategy, which had been quite consistent from the time of Jack Kennedy onward and pursuing it pretty much out of public view. But then a few people started saying, \"Hmm, this MX weapon system didn't seem to make sense. \"Arms control isn't working. \"U.S. Soviet relations are a mess. \"Let me look through the knothole \"and see what really has been going on\" and came away horrified, came away looking at, you know, a growth in numbers of nuclear weapons that clearly had, people had been unable to get hands on and all these other phenomenons about relationships, sort of an inability to control escalation and crises for which we have had vivid testimony this year in both the Falkland Islands and the Middle East crisis. And realizing that in fact, you know, there was a real problem and then sort of, if you will, beckoning to their friends and their neighbors and their colleagues and saying, you know, \"Come and take a look.\" And as sort of some of the technical people can sort of testify, from there in, it's sort of like a, you know, like a chain letter, it's sort of two to the Nth power, sort of passing on, as more and more people came to realize that, in fact, this was a problem that we had not figured out how to solve. There were for us a number of other benchmarks in terms of sort of giving testimony to public interest. One of them, one of the strongest ones was about a year ago in June when CBS ran a series, a five part series, called \"The Defense of the United States.\" And some of you probably saw it. And the first of that was called Ground Zero, just coincidentally, probably because I had done some work with the producer and she was hoping to help us out at same time. But what it did was that the audience response to this, so, the viewer response to this was extraordinary. The producers at CBS really weren't sure whether they were going to put out a bomb or something that they would get pilloried for by, you know, \"How dare you talk about nuclear war? \"That's a problem that should be left to the experts.\" But instead 30 million Americans watched the first program in that series and the succeeding programs did almost as well. And that was something that said to us, as we were planning Ground Zero strategy and trying to develop the program, that people really wanted to know about this issue, that people really were concerned. And there were other benchmarks along the way. I think that can, that whole phenomenon of individual citizens gradually understanding that this was a problem that was out of control, accounts for the why. The how, in terms of, \"Well, how was that translated \"into concrete political programs, \"efforts like Ground Zero and the others?\" Is also interesting because it's a classic testimony to democracy in action, grassroots efforts and sort of people in this country saying, \"I'm going to take this issue on for myself.\" The first of what I would say is sort of the three major efforts is what I call the physician's movement. Starting really in 1980, a group of physicians based in Boston called the Physicians for Social Responsibility, largely, and there was another physician's group, but major that one, started going around the country telling people about the medical consequences of nuclear war principally, but to a lesser degree about the problem. And were able to get a lot of media attention. And to get a lot of attention from doctors and that whole phenomenon, finding established members of the community that people have a lot of faith in, I think it was one of the fundamental techniques that has been used not only by the physicians, but also about Ground Zero, in terms of helping people to come to this issue. The second sort of effort is the Freeze campaign, the Freeze, which initiated in Western Massachusetts, really in the bit, in the Boston area in mid-1980, sought a very simple political statement from people, a statement that simply said, \"I've lost faith. \"That to me, the nuclear war problem is out of control. \"Most particularly the nuclear arms race is out of control, \"and I want it to be stopped. \"Stop it now. \"Don't bother me with these fancy words \"of counterforce capability \"or countervailing strategy or mutual assured destruction, \"or who's really ahead in the nuclear competition. \"Just stop it. \"And then we can take up some of this subtle stuff,\" if you will. That simple argument, if you will, that said \"Stop it,\" was clearly a, if you will, a gold mine and sort of struck a chord with the American people. It was simple and it was straightforward and allowed people to express concern, not only to their friends and neighbors, to make a statement of a signature or a check on a ballot, but also to express concern to their elected officials, the basic message that said \"I've lost faith.\" And so, the Freeze campaign, and clearly to some degree Ground Zero benefited from it as well, sort of was a critical factor in bringing people to the issue and also in bringing the media to the issue, which is a factor that I will come back to later. The issue, and I know I will get questions, so I will sort of delay it now of, of kind of how does the Freeze campaign mature? Where is it really going? Can it really be turned into other than simply a grassroots statement into a real political force, which actually puts the Freeze someplace in the forefront of dealing with the Russians, is something that we can come back to. Finally, then there was Ground Zero. The objectives of Ground Zero from its inception in 1980 were educational. Grounds that, we often now are getting questions of, you know, is Ground Zero gonna start supporting candidates, supporting the Freeze, supporting, you know, other initiatives, fighting for MX, for civil defense or all of these kinds of questions, are questions that we answer always in the same, that Ground Zero was, is, and always will be a strictly educational project. There are going to be lots of people advocating different positions on things, but we feel so strongly that there is both a market and a need to have some organization who doesn't do that, but just does basic education. That argument is so strong that that's what we will, that's the why we started. And that's what we will continue to be. From its very beginning, as I say, Ground Zero anticipated and also sought to stimulate the interest in obtaining basic education. And in that sense, and I repeat this because I think it's important. It's that kind of fundamental statement of faith in democracy working that I think is very much in the minds of people as they come to this issue, this feeling that as, when the founding fathers chose democracy, as I say, that there was confidence in that common sense of people that is, if you will, characterized by those two words of common, that sense, which is common to us all that was needed in dealing with security issues. And I think that's one of the most powerful arguments as one looks very closely at the nuclear war issue, which I will come back to and sort of trying to analyze and structure the problem that some of those very, very basic instincts on for which members of the nuclear war priesthood or elected officials have no monopoly on, but for which individual citizens have as much judgment and as much a right to make judgements as any of us. You don't need to know every last detail of SALT II treaty or how our weapons system works to bring basic instincts to bear on this issue because that's really what has to happen now. Well, we started with the recognition of the problem, you know, that we hadn't figured out how to prevent nuclear war and we thought, how could we take citizens through an educational process that would, first of all, that they would, of course, they would take if you will. And secondly, something that would prepare them for being active participants in the political process. And in that sense, we saw Ground Zero as a passage that people would go through after they first became concerned or interested in the nuclear war issue. And they would sort of pass through it on their way into the political process. And that's still basically how we think it really works. And when we started to put together Grounds Zero, and since we have some time, let me tell you a little bit about that. It started first with myself and a friend sitting up far too late one night, sort of saying, \"Why don't we try and do something?\" And within a couple of weeks, I had pulled together a group of about 10 friends who then, and this is how things started, and one of the things that can happen in this country, for the next probably six months, we got together every Thursday night about the same 10 people plus or minus one or two from time to time to talk about the problem. And the group of people divided roughly equally into three different categories. First was about four of us that knew about the nuclear war issue that had sort of, that was our trade. Secondly was a group of people that understood about education, my wife happens to be in the education business and she pulled in a few of her friends who understood about theories of education, how you do it, how you deal with complex subjects and things like that, which I knew nothing about. And third was a group of people that had experience in political campaigns who knew about taking issues, if you will, more out to grassroots America, because I think that captures, those three groups, nuclear war people, education people, and political people, sort of what we characterized as the problem we were facing, which was how to do education on nuclear war, comma, a politically volatile issue, because needless to say, you know, two months ago, if you had stood up and said, I want to talk to you about nuclear war, people would immediately look to their left in the thinking that you were out there somewhere on the left part of the spectrum, that doesn't happen anymore. But we knew that was one of the problems you're going to have to face early on. And sort of legitimize talking about nuclear war or thinking the unthinkable and all of these terms. And that led to the design of the program. We spent a lot of time, not just talking amongst that group, but to other people about how to do the kind of thing that we sought out to do. And we decided to, we recognized, if you will, that we could not show up, even though I, we might be able to write a very interesting book and put together very interesting curriculum materials. We could not show up and say, \"Hi, we're this group from Washington. \"And we'd like to educate all your people \"here in Ames, Iowa, about nuclear war.\" I mean, want you to draw 10 people to something like that and they all would have been, you know, sort of well out on the spectrum. And so, we recognized that one had to come through conduits where people would have confidence and faith in who they were getting this message from. And what that meant was that we had to start by persuading people that we could get our hands on, if you will, that this was a good idea. And so, we started with that recognition and also with a recognition that, if you will, that the community was the highest level of social aggregation at which people still had confidence in working together and still really could work together. States are kind of an anachronism sort of leftover from the colonies and they don't sort of work issues very well. And the federal government, clearly, people had lost a lot of faith in. And so, the community was immediately apparent to us as the basic unit that we wanted to work with. The second was that we needed to establish institutions to work through. And to that end, we went after the national organizations that sort of were situated in Washington to see if we could get their endorsement. And we ended up in, I could tell you stories about, you know, who people, who stands up and who doesn't, but we ended up with good support from the education community, from the health medicine community, from the religious community and little, not quite so good, but also from the scientific community and from the unions. And it was that, with that in hand, that probably even some of you started getting phone calls from people in Washington saying, \"There's this idea. \"We want to do some basic nuclear war education. \"We want to focus on a week in April, \"and we want to see \"if we can put together community-based operations and, \"you know, take some very basic fundamental education \"to issue, fundamentals, to people, \"in a manner that they can understand.\" And that's really what worked. We like to say that basically what we set up was a franchising operation. And as many of you know, the national office kind of got organizations and communities started, gave them some basic materials, a few tips on organizing, and then just shoved them out of the nest, if you will, and said, \"Good luck, you're pretty much on your own.\" And it had to work that way. And not only did it have to work that way because we didn't have the money to work it otherwise, but that was the only way that you could really get a community to take up the issue. And in that sense, we had a, really a lot of faith in people that this kind of franchising operation would work. And in fact, people are always asking us, \"How did you do this much on the minuscule budget \"and the minuscule staff that we had in Washington?\" And it was because of this. And we sometimes jokingly refer to us, which one reporter sort of said, which is as a Kentucky Fried Nuclear War. I mean, it was that kind of franchising operation. Some of the franchises worked and most of the, great majority of them worked a few didn't. I mean, we can tell you about some places where we started franchises three or four times. It never really kind of got going, but in the great majority of communities and it totaled over 650 communities by the time Ground Zero week rolled around, people took up the challenge of trying to help educate their friends and their neighbors and their colleagues about the problem of preventing nuclear war. We saw that base, that education problem as sort of in four basic steps and some of this is familiar to all of you. But I think it's important to dwell on them a little bit. First is the question of how nuclear war might occur, because the problem is the prevention of nuclear war. The problem is not stopping the arms race. That's one of the prescriptions for working the problem. And it is critically important that we all keep in mind that the problem is preventing nuclear war because in structuring a solution to the problem, it's going to be necessary that we start there. If you only work the arms race, if you only work arms control, you're never going to solve this problem. And I'll come back to that. Secondly, there was the question of what would be the consequences of nuclear war? We feel and it's sort of been born out there, there's absolutely no substitute in gaining the kinds of motivations and the kind of commitment that's going to be necessary from individual citizens to work this issue, to face up to the consequences of nuclear war. And I think that's, again, one of the great accomplishments of Ground Zero is that people came to realize that this business that they always knew was bad was in fact even much worse than they had ever grown, even really sort of had their worst fears in the sense that sort of every community in this country, down to a population of 15 to 20,000 people, is likely to be attacked in a nuclear war. For a time, I think people thought, \"Oh, it'll just be the big cities.\" And, you know, the Ames Iowa's and the Muscatines and the Marinette, Wisconsin, where I grew up, would escape. But we now know that might've been the case when the Russians only had a couple of hundred nuclear weapons, but in a world in which they have 8,000 nuclear weapons and we have 10,000 pointed at them, those are just the intercontinental weapon and 50,000 nuclear weapons in the world overall, there is no escaping just because you live in a town of 25, 35, 50,000 people. And also, and I think critically important that even if you survive, you would not survive with a life like you had ever known that it would be the death of life as you know it. And in some ways, I guess people face death fairly early. I have a five-year-old who faces, has already talks about death and that sort of thing, but people think that \"Well, life will go on.\" But there, we have found extraordinary power in confronting the postwar world for people to see this is what, if you will, the lucky or unlucky ones would be left with. And it really to recognize that in fact, that what is at stake here is really, as a minimum, the death of this country and not just of individuals. That we felt that it was critically important, and that was one of the reasons that we did things in a concentrated period of time, to move people beyond that whole numbing phenomenon and move them into the problem. And that's why we sort of encourage people to go to that third step, which is to look at how this country has sought to prevent nuclear war in the past and the Soviet Union as well, to look at that history of, from the time we had a monopoly on the bomb for four years to the Russians getting it, to the period when they could attack Europe, but not the United States into the mid late 1950s. And all of that sort of thing. You know, I was one of these people that was introduced to nuclear war in the mid-1950s. You know, the hide under your desk, go get in a, the heating tunnel between the two schools and all of that sort of thing. But to watch how we try different techniques, if you will, to slow the Russians, to give us all confidence that nuclear war would not occur with a feeling that it was critically important as we looked to the future and new solutions and new strategies that people understand the, not the mistakes so much of the past, but sort of what had been tried in the past and how it might've worked for a little, for a while. And certainly some things worked for a while. We didn't have nuclear wars. And that's an important thing. But yet, you know, to understand maybe why things didn't work as we look to the future and look for a better solution. That is a part of the problem that I think people had initially shied away from by because of terms like mutual assured destruction and things of this character that seemed to put people off, that it's some jargon that you would never be able to understand. And it was fundamental to what we tried to do to take these kinds of concepts, which were very simple in terms of what they really sort of meant and draw analogies for people that they could understand. Any of you that have read that book, which a few of you probably have, I know, can see how we tried to do that, drawing almost schoolyard analogies between the way the United States and the Soviet Union behave towards one another, where mutual assurance is really, assured destruction is really of a kind of a \"Don't hit me or you'll be sorry,\" kind of concept. And it's really no more complicated than that. But to help people understand that, you know, that people like myself have invented complicated names for things that are really very straightforward in terms of what they sought to do, in terms of the way sought to, if you will, stimulate decision-making on the other side or mold it, or sort of make it come in a direction you'd like. I think that in taking people through those three questions of sort of how might nuclear war occur and sort of what would be the consequences and at least partway into this, so, how have we sought to prevent nuclear war in the past? We have allowed people to reach that point where they realize that this is not an issue that is beyond their ability to understand. I think that probably that's, you know, of the accomplishments that we think we made in this period this spring, that is probably one of the most important where people it's been months since somebody has said to me, \"Oh, this is an issue that must be left to the experts.\" People have read into it enough. And that especially includes the media to recognize that this is an issue that at its fundamentals does not have to be left to the experts, that any American who can, sort of has a feeling for human relationships has a little bit of an understanding that a missile or something that's lit at the bottom and not at the top can really come to grips with this business. And that's because of the way it actually works. The fourth and, in many ways, the most challenging question which we think people need to address is that of the Soviet Union. And I think that that's one of the things that we tried to say to people that, you know, \"We're asking you not to just put nuclear war on your plate, \"but to put nuclear war \"and the Soviet Union on your plate together,\" because it is the Soviet Union that has nuclear weapons pointing at us. If there is a nuclear war and we all die, it will because of nuclear weapons launched by the Soviet Union. And so, it was critically important, it is critically important that we look very hard at that relationship and our successes or our failures, if you will, in dealing with that relationship, which I characterize is trying to more effectively engage the Soviet Union in really what has to be a mutual effort to prevent nuclear war. There is no way that we can solve this problem by ourselves. There is no way that we can solve this problem if it's just us and every other country in the world except the Soviet Union that is on a particular tack. We must find some means of working this problem with the Soviets. In that sense, as we move to the future, that will be one of the important things that we try and help more with. In a way, what we said about Ground Zero in its first phase was that we sought to strip the mystery and the mythology from nuclear war. And in that sense, one of the things that we will be looking to do is to also strip the mystery and the mythology from dealing with the Soviet Union or from the Soviet Union itself. In terms of the lessons learned that we learned from Ground Zero and that you all learned from, who participated in Ground Zero, that that is one that stands out that somehow we have to figure out how to deal with the Soviet Union. Somebody said to me recently that one of the problems is that the American people would rather be working this issue with the Canadians, a nice group of friendly neighbors, you know, common language, common heritage, you know, we, they play football too. And all of these kinds of things, but it's not the Canadians that have 8,000 nuclear weapons pointing at us. It is this group of people that, that is a closed society, whose history we don't understand, whose leadership we don't understand, but for whom we must find some way to better understand them because we certainly haven't figured out how to make them do the things that we think make more sense because invading Afghanistan and Czechoslovakia and developing threats through our ICBM force are not what we think is the sort of right way of finding a route to preventing nuclear war. And so, that is one of the things that we saw people with a lot of concern about, but a lot of, if you will, misconceptions about, but, you know, it's one of those things, you know, even viewed straight up, you know, the Soviet Union is neither three foot tall teddy bears. And I know some people that think that that's the case, nor 10 foot tall monsters, they are just normal sized people who have a rather bizarre history and who are extraordinarily difficult to deal with, even in the best of circumstances. At the height of detente, if you will, when things were going well for Kissinger and Nixon, and I had some dealings with the Soviet Union on arms control and stuff, they were just the most extraordinarily difficult people to deal with. And that was in the, if you will, in the salad days. But, you know, nevertheless, you cannot escape it. There's no way that we're going to be able to build some great glass bubble around the Soviet Union and let them stew in their juices and go under economically or whatever people keep hoping they will do someday. We have to confront the fact that it's an issue that we have to deal with. And as I say, in the next phase of Ground Zero, and I'll talk about the details of that somewhat, we are clearly going to have to face up to trying to understand the Soviets, difficult as that might be and challenging as that might be in the sense of, if you think people swing it, you know, two years ago, swung and looked to the left when people started talking about nuclear war, when you start saying, \"Let's think and rethink our relationship \"with the Soviet Union,\" that is going to be very tough stuff, because we have had a long history of, if you will, not dealing very well then. And I won't say that these are prejudices that are built up, but more of a hope that they would just go away. And I think probably the best example, if you will, of our unwillingness to face the problem is our unwillingness to face it at the top. Here, clearly the president of the United States is our principal agent in dealing with the Soviet Union. That's the way international politics works. We can't escape that. It may be different someday. And maybe we can foster things that would make a difference, but the president of the United States has met with the president of the Soviet Union only once in the last seven years, it was June of 1979, the signing of the SALT II summit. I was there and some of us had our hands up the back of Jimmy Carter clearing up a few minor SALT issues. So in fact, there really has been no instance in the last seven years when the president of the United States has had a serious conversation about mutual security concerns with the president of the Soviet Union. That's just one data point, if you will, that gives vivid testimony to how far this country is going to have to come to engaging the Soviet Union. And it's not going to be easy. Let me now talk about sort of this question of, you know, will the current public interest and concern about the nuclear was issue be sustained? I would say that the answer is almost certainly yes. It's, there's testimony to it all around, your showing up here tonight, in the numbers that you have and similar meetings across the country gives poignancy to this recognition that the American people are engaged and will be engaged on this issue until such time as they feel comfortable to turn it over again for, well, another run, if you will, by that top community that has to operate on this issue, the elected officials and the experts, but it won't be for awhile. And I doubt if the next time, if you will, that community will get a run for 15 years without the general population checking in again, but we'll, there will come a time when the partnership, which is clearly now developing of people and government officials and sort of experts has decided on a rough strategy for pursuing this issue with the Soviet Union, where then you run with it for awhile, but that's going to be a while. And I think it's, one of the reasons for that is, not only have basic human instincts been stimulated by the events of this spring, the basic instincts of, if you will, self-preservation, the responsibility for family, for friends, for community and for national survival, which is clearly at stake. But I think something that distinguishes this period from any other, certainly from the early '60s, when there was also a very strong public concern about this issue is that the issue of human extinction has been raised for the first time and raised with the poignancy and persuasiveness that it had never had before. This has been done with extraordinary elegance and poignance in a series of articles in the \"New Yorker\" magazine that is now a book called \"The Fate of the Earth\" by a person named Jonathan Schell. He's an extraordinary human being. And I've had the pleasure of sort of sitting together with him over lunch on three occasions and talking about this business. And his argument is very simple. And it's true. He says that \"If we are not now, \"we will soon be looking at a period of time \"in which nuclear war will mean the extinction \"of the human species. \"If we continue on the current path, \"it may not be today, \"as best we can do technical calculations, \"it doesn't look like that would happen today, \"but in another generation or two generations, \"within the lifetime of my children, \"if we continue on the current path, \"we will be looking at a world of 150,000 \"or 200,000 nuclear weapons, \"a world of dozens of countries with nuclear weapons, \"and a world in which a nuclear war, \"when you do the calculations, \"will probably mean the extinction of life.\" I think this is one of the reasons and the fact that this, the recognition of this, especially within the religious community in this country, has that that will account for the fact that there will be sustained and unyielding public interest in this issue until such time where people are ready to sort of, as I say, let the community of elected officials and nuclear war experts take another run at it. 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one of the final questions it is what will be the impact on, on the internal situation in this country of this sustained interest? And I could talk about a little bit about dealing with the Soviets as well. As we search for a new strategy, because that is most clearly what we are about. And as this search is conducted through this kind of partnership effort, I would say that it will all as at a first stage, come to a head in the 1984 presidential campaign. During the next year and a half or so, there will be continuation of the things that we have seen today. And that there will become if you will, January of 1984 an expectation and a demand on the part of the American people to hear from those people who would if you will represent them in the government, in dealing with this issue, just how they're going to deal with it. By people who have come to understand the issue very well. I have this image, if we can do with ground zero and we, as I say, not just this headquarters of Kentucky Fried Nuclear War, but the people who are working on it. That if we can do what I think can be done over the next year and a half. That when that first presidential candidate sits down in that New Hampshire old new England house with 1520 citizens, or sits down not long after here in Iowa with some of you people and says \"I want to represent you in Washington. I want to represent you in dealing with the Soviet Union.\" That person is going to be facing an extraordinarily rigorous experience. Facing very demanding questions from people who will not take easy answers. Answers like, \"Oh, let's do nuclear disarmament, or let's try and rebuild the 20 to one nuclear superiority like we had at the time of the Cuban missile crisis.\" But instead demands real answers, a realistic program, or at least some idea of process for going forward to working this issue. I'm, I guess I can say I'm more pleased to be someone who will be helping to stimulate the questions than to be one of those poor people who will be trying to answer this. But I think that what will happen will be over the succeeding 10 months, of necessity would be leaders and not just in the President but also sort of in the Senate and the Congress. They will of necessity have to learn much more about this issue. Certainly one of my watershed experiences in emerging from, you know, the details of working on salt and going to make the case for the SALT II treaty to the center of the United States and sort of modest, but useful as the joint Chief of Staff used to call it, was defined that senators and congressmen didn't know anything more about this nuclear war business than any of you. I'd also done some speaking out in the beyond the Washington DC so I could make that judgment. And that was horrifying to me that these people and many of them are on the Armed Services Committee and the Senate Foreign Relations had basically turned this issue over to the executive branch. And so in that sense, as I say there's as much need for would be presidents or for would be congressmen and senators as there is for would be presidents to face up to this issue. But especially in terms of the president, and I think that come November of 1984 if all this works the way I think it probably will, and some of us will be looking to make it work, that the American people, will be facing a decision between two or three candidates who of necessity have gotten up to speed on this issue. Whose views on it are very well known to the American people because they will be answering those questions almost every stop they make, who will know somewhat more about how the American people feel about this issue because certainly the American presidential process is like no other experience for a president in terms of hands-on and hearing from citizens about how they feel about issues. And that when that person who emerges from that process as the next President of the United States. Or if it's the same President, I think that, that he or she will be able to really hit the ground running in at least the next step of dealing on this issue. How much of a concrete program, or whether it's just pointing in some directions or whether it's some very interesting new answer that people have, I don't know. I doubt whether anybody's gonna be able to come up with a solution that fast that people will have full confidence in. But the question is what are the interesting new strategies? What are the interesting new paths to take? I look forward to that very much. I think that when the founding fathers sort of conceived of the government and the way it was supposed to work, it was that kind of process that they had in mind. And it's that kind of process which on the nuclear war issue this country really is about to go through. And I would sort of say at long last. There are a couple of quotes which I, I like to sort of give which I think some one of which some of you have seen which I think capture the kind of challenge that people face, that we face. The first is a quote by Daniel Webster who said, \"nothing will ruin the country. If the people themselves undertake its safety. And nothing can save it if they leave that safety in any hands but their own.\" And that's really what is happening, I think. People are taking the issue of their safety into their own hands. The second is a statement by Einstein. Who talks about not relaxing our efforts to arouse in the people of the world, and especially in their governments. And awareness of the unprecedented disaster which they are absolutely certain to bring on themselves unless there is a fundamental change in their attitudes toward one another as well as in their concept of the future. The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything except our way of thinking. That is really the challenge, which I think we've all taken on individually and collectively to try and change our way of thinking with the recognition that we are going to have to because of nuclear weapons. Finally, let me say one final word about the challenge of dealing with the Soviet Union. I'm frequently asked, \"well how can you do, hope to make progress on this issue?\" They'll never be a ground zero or a free campaign in the Soviet Union. And that's absolutely right. Maybe not never, but certainly not for the foreseeable future. And that for better or worse, we are going to have to be working this issue with the leadership of the Soviet Union. The leadership and their technical experts. We will not be working this issue with the people of the Soviet Union. Although I think one of the most interesting things that is happening, is that people in this country are looking for ways of reaching out to the people of the Soviet Union. Whether it's through the people you talk to as part of , whether it's through people you talk to as part of building gas pipelines or just through educational efforts and exchanges or technical or whatever it may be. But people in this country are looking for ways to reach out to the people of the Soviet Union. We are gonna try and do some things ourselves to help foster that. But for the most part, we are gonna be dealing with the leadership of the Soviet Union. And that is a fundamental fact that we have to accept. And it makes the challenge of dealing with them that much greater because the leadership in the Soviet Union has had a very bizarre life. Emerging from the experience of the revolution, the non-recognition of the government by the United States until 32, 33 or whatever it was. The purges of the 30s, the experience of the invasion and the loss of 20 million people in world war II an experience that is totally foreign to that which we know. And that, although we say, that should not account for your behaving the way you do, it's important that we still try and understand how that leadership came through that experience because that's who we're dealing with. And what you will probably see, we and other people trying to produce is, you know if you will, here's your biography of Lena Brezhnev. It'll tell you about his kids and where he went to school, that type of thing. It's clear that here in this period of time we are facing period of historical importance. Someday, the historians are going to look back on this period and it will either be Southern hemisphere historians looking back and saying, you know \"in the early 1980s, you know, there was this effort to get people involved in this nuclear war issue and to try and get governments to recognize the sort of path that people were on. And that it was, you know, one last too feeble effort.\" Or it will be American historians and sort of Soviet historian and Western European and Chinese historians looking back on this period of time as really one of the finest hours of not just this government and its people, but of others as well. I think the events of this spring have been extraordinarily encouraging about if you will, that second scenario, that this really might be a kind of Renaissance in people's thinking about security issues in relations with other nations. It will in fact ensure that that kind of period, that history is written where we all can look back on it. We will be trying to do what we can to see to it that that second history is the history that happened. But what has happened so far is only a beginning. And as I said at the start, it won't be that way unless people like yourselves get involved. There is simply no alternative. Because we in Washington haven't figured out how to work this issue and we cannot work it without both support, interests and concern on people like yourselves. Thank you very much. And I'll now take some questions. I didn't mean to talk this long.\r\n\r\n- It's time for questions now, would you please, if you can, stand when asking any questions so that we all might hear. I will set the latest reports from the ground zero office on the back table. That you can pick up on your way out .\r\n\r\n- Go ahead. If you don't ask questions, I'll tell more stories about Washington. Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Is there some strange metamorphosis that comes over a newly elected president changes his attitude towards\r\n\r\n- There is an experience and I don't think it's as much of a sort of in the in the realm of a metamorphosis as it is in sort of facing some harsh reality. Prior to Carter coming to office, Ronald Reagan coming to office both made statements that, you know, those of us who were close to the issue viewed as just outrageous. I mean, it clearly revealed people that didn't understand what one was facing. I know Jimmy Carter came in and then made a statement which you people probably didn't notice that we did. And immediately asked that the joint Chief of Staff and everybody, how they would structure US forces at a level of only 200 missiles and bombers as opposed to the 2000 odd that were on both sides. Sort of a reduction to 10% of current force levels. Well, that was so far away from anything that could have been conceivably be achieved in the next 20 years that it was, I mean, I'm a real optimist about this stuff but to even spend time thinking that there, somehow just because he had come to office they'd been a watershed change in sort of the Soviet Union and the American general population they would think that sort of thing is possible. And also with president Reagan, he, you know some of the statements made like \"nuclear proliferation is none of our business.\" Well, if you look at how a nuclear war might occur and I think it's important, I would wanna, let me talk a little bit about that question cause I think it's important. You see that one of the most likely if not the most likely route nuclear war is through the use of nuclear weapons by third countries. And to say that that was none of our business was just not facing up to having if you will sat down with the military people who would say to him, \"here's how we think nuclear war might occur for which you are gonna be the Commander in Chief\" for which he would immediately see the importance of proliferation. And the same goes for the statement that he made that the way he was gonna deal with the Soviet Union was to achieve some measure of nuclear superiority. And then they were becoming hat in hand to forge better arms control agreements. You know a lot of people make statements like that but this issue of nuclear superiority is the boring one in the sense that we had it at one on time, quite clearly. And you know, at the time of the Cuban missile crisis we could have delivered some 6,000 nuclear weapons under Soviet territory. And they could have sent, though I don't know how many would have made it through but some, maybe 300, 400 nuclear weapons our way with bombers. Now there was the sort of 20, 30 to one advantage in nuclear weapons. That was through superiority but that was the thing of the past. I mean, there was nowhere you could get measurable superiority even if you could ever figure it out, how what the right formula was for measuring it. And so you see these the things, that when people face the harsh realities, you know, suddenly the strategy that they thought they were going to be pursuing looks less attractive. And that's part of the, of the problem of, as I say people coming to Washington, whether it's the White House or the Congress with very little basic knowledge about this most fundamental issue and it's a very bad place to do on the job training. I mean, it really is, especially the presidency. I mean, these guys are very beset with extraordinary demands on their time and energy and there's almost no time to, to do the learning that you would hope that they had coming in. And that's one of the phenomena. Let me talk a little bit about this how nuclear war would occur because I think that one of the, oh, thank you. One of the things that we are gonna try and do in ground zero, if you will, and moving a little bit beyond basic education on nuclear war and the Soviet Union and nuclear war is to try and help structure sort of if you will, the problem of preventing nuclear war because as those of you with common sense and the others of you with technical backgrounds, know I can say that, that the most critical part of solving a problem is to get it all structured so you really understand, you know, what are the component parts can you attack pieces of it separately and stuff like that. And I think since the problem as I say is preventing nuclear war it's critically important to literally write down, if you will, diagram, how nuclear war might occur. And I would say that that breaks down into roughly, and you can break it down different ways, into five different categories. First would be a bolt from the blue. That right now the Soviet missiles are in flight. And that it was a nice day in June. And I don't know why they did it but for some reason they did it, that's bolt from the blue and they might do it just as easily as we might do it. We have an option. You know, it's the first option that the president has is sort of the United States goes first out of the blue. That's viewed as one of the least likely ways for nuclear war to happen because the outcome of that is very predictable. The outcome for that is the 500 million people that we all know would die in nuclear war from the response that would take place no matter who went first. The second way that nuclear war might occur is through escalation in a European conflict. It's somehow for some reason, the Soviet Union decides to invade Western Europe. Believe me, you don't have to worry about the Germans invading Poland or anything, or East-Germany or anything like that but that, that happens. And that somehow in a European crisis, there is an escalation to first battlefield use of what we call battlefield nuclear weapons. That's, you know, if you will, the small stuff just Hiroshima sized bombs and to use of all nuclear weapons. That's also viewed as unlikely by most people. But keep in mind those are two realms in which the US Soviet relationship plays in. And one in which you can probably, I mean, in terms of the bolt from the blue especially you can make that outcome very predictable with arms control. And it's one of the realms in which arms control can clearly do good work. Third realm is escalation in a third world crisis. That is what most people think is the most likely route to nuclear war. It's somehow in the middle East or the Persian Gulf or in Southern Africa or even the Falkland Islands that somehow that nuclear war might happen through this problem that we have seen. So vividly of an inability of one side or another to say, \"okay I'll be the one to turn the other cheek \"or sort of go away with egg on my face.\" And it just doesn't happen. That's been the age old way of solving international problems that when they get acute you go to war and not long ago somebody said to me almost in frustration cause I knew this person had enough of a feel of the issue to recognize that, \"why don't we just have it out with the Russians? \"That's the way we used \"to solve these problems in the past.\" And, you know, that's just not on the options list anymore. We just can't do it because the outcome is very predictable. But in terms of escalation in the third world conflict if you think of how that might occur, and you've seen it in the middle East and sort of gradually the United States and the Soviet Union being drawn in because where the suppliers of the weapons as I like to say, \"we would be the founders \"of the flames rather than the calmers of the waters in almost any crisis.\" Because we're usually if you will, almost like spectators on the sidelines rooting for our team in the, in the conflict. And that that clearly has to change. And that almost no amount of arms control, no freezes no , no anything can do much to affect that escalation in those kinds of crisis. Controlling the spread of nuclear weapons can help but it's very possible and very easy for a-- computer started going one, two, five, 50, 100 and then 200, which was the saturation point and it's a raid more than 200 missiles coming towards the United States. And as we all know, that didn't happen. And what turned out was that the earth had moved around the sun and all that to the point where the moon was in the field of view of the radar. And it, even though it's a long ways to go it's a very large object. So what was happening was that the radar signals were going all the way to the moon and bouncing all the way back. And it had not been programmed if you will, into the software of the computer. And so if we had been in this sort of situation where, you know, you'd press the button on when you got warning of a Soviet missile attack, we might've started World War III because the moon rose one day. A second story happened just a couple of years ago, I think about three years ago. We now have some satellite systems that in addition cause we still have that radar warning system that literally stare down on the Soviet landmass and also on the ocean areas on either side of the United States and look for missile launches. They look to these plumes that come out. If you've seen a launch from Cape Canaveral or Cape Kennedy you've seen this plume spewing out of the back of a rocket, turns out you can see those things from satellites and this satellite brings its data down into a, a underground command post in outside of Colorado Springs, Colorado. And one day the, as you know happens all the time the main computer went down. Malfunction. You understand about those things. And they went to the backup computer cause they knew that would happen and then the backup computer broke down. And then they went to the second backup computer and that ran all right for a while. And then suddenly one, five, 10, 50 200 missile attack on the United States. ICBM's from the Soviet Union. And it was three or four minutes as the, you know, klaxon started going out before someone realized that what had happened was that they were using that second backup computer for training operators. And of course you don't train operators on just a benign stream of data. You know, nothing happened, nothing happened. And you put a real raid in there to see how they'll respond. And somehow a tape with a real raid on it, a practice tape, had been put on the wrong tape drive and introduced on the computer. Because of some human error, for a few minutes we thought that the Russians had attacked us. But again, because we do not posture ourselves we do not press the button when we, when we think the Russian missiles are coming, we will launch our airplanes but we will not launch our missiles. We really ride out an attack, and it's whatever missiles survive out here in the Midwest that would be launched. You don't try and shoot out from underneath because we are concerned about these false alarms. And another incident in sort of two years ago happened when the failure of one of these little microchips, I don't know, they used to be the size of the fingernail. Now I guess they're the size of something much smaller than that, failed in the computer. And again, indicated that there was a missile raid. And again, the proxies ran off and the pilots ran to the B52s and stuff like that. But somebody recognized that in fact because they called somebody else and said, \"our computer says that there's a missile raid.\" And somebody, said, \"our computer doesn't say that.\" And they finally got it straight. But that's, it tells you the kinds of problems that you have in this business, which is machines, don't work. People don't always work perfectly, I hate to tell you this is the case, and that there are these dangers. And in some ways we worry more almost about the Soviet Union and false alarms that they might have as best we can tell their technology is not as sophisticated as ours. And I don't know whether that's good or bad but we do worry about that. The possibility that the Soviet Union might get in a position where they feel they have to as we call it, launch on warning. And as you can see that no amount of arms control would save you in such a situation, if you really want the relationship to be in a better state. You know, if our computers were to say, you know, \"I think there's a missile launch from the British \"who have you know, several submarines \"that could launch missiles against the United States if they wanted to.\" You wouldn't really think that that was serious. You'd say, \"what's wrong? Something must be wrong here.\" It'd be a long time before we get to that state with the Soviet union. But clearly you'd like to be in a situation where you're not trigger, you know, sort of on a hair trigger because of these kinds of problems. Finally, nuclear war might also occur because of a terrorist attack or because of, or maybe even an accident or an unauthorized launch of a missile by people that could probably pull that off if you could put enough people together. But you get the impression. Well, we want people to look at is, look at all those ways nuclear war might occur and then try and see where arms control might work, where building better relationships might work. We're trying to understand how to resolve conflicts might work better because that's the kind of analytical process and common sense process that we're gonna have to bring to bear to decision. That's it. How's that for a long answer? Other questions.\r\n\r\n- You mentioned that dealing with the . The question of course is, do you have any ideas for developing a strategy for dealing with the Russians . It seems to me that the citizens should take something like that arm and develop a strategy. I wonder if we might have a beginning on that .\r\n\r\n- A beginning, but not much more than that. And it's a good question. We have, and you will see I think it's mentioned here. Anyway we are going to try and help people do something that we refer to as a pairing project or a sister cities program. To try and see if at the community level if one could build some bridges, you know, community to community. Communities have very common problems. Whether it's sewage disposal, school systems or whatever it might be that you, you know sort of looking beyond the national security responsibility that might be a basis for doing that. And there, I just was up in New Haven, Connecticut a couple of weeks ago. And New Haven, Connecticut has, if you will, reached out to a Soviet city, they picked another city on the black sea, there was sort of about their size. And they got somebody from the university who was a Russian scholar which you could do here as well to sort of if you will craft the letter so it would be in language palatable to the Soviet. And basically you sort of said, you know there's this problem with nuclear war. I didn't know how we're all gonna solve it but maybe it would help if we started trying to communicate at that level. We are going to be looking to, if you will, provide for people in the local community, ground zero groups almost shopping lists or menus of those experiences people have had whether it's in the grain business or in the education business or in the medical business or scientific, people are dealing with the Soviet union with a little bit of the lessons learned about how you do that, because it's quite clear that the initiative will have to come from us. It's gonna be very hard for it to come from the Soviet union just because of the way they run their operation. Another thing which I have been sort of hopeful about is that there might be some contacts between the military and between the defense establishment on the two sides. And in the June, 1979, Vienna summit meeting, the chairman of the joint Chiefs of Staff, the one that just retired Davy Jones and the secretary of defense, Harold Brown met with their Soviet counterparts. It was the first time since World War II that, that had happened. And it was, I'd say a very moving experience for both of them to sit down for an hour. The presidents on the two sides I'll have to say were very not so sure that this was a good idea, but for the military and the defense people to sit down for an hour and just talk at that level about these security issues. But I would say that generally, we don't have any better ideas than anybody else. Your instincts are as good as any. We will try and help people, you know if you will, facilitate the bridge-building, but it's all those things that I would say are common problems that you might use as the vehicles for getting them but it's the right thing to do. And certainly for the longterm.\r\n\r\n- I have a question about the demonstrations in Europe last fall. did they have any .\r\n\r\n- I think the demonstrations in Europe play an important role in were one of the contributors to, if you will, some people in this country say, \"Hmm,\" you know, \"look at what the Europeans are doing.\" Maybe that, you know, recognizing that that was not the right solution, if you will or approach for this country if you were taking it to the streets. But rather that the Europeans were speaking out and saying \"help\", and sort of saying \"we've seen a lot of Wars here in Europe. \"We think we know a pre-war period when we see it, \"and we are in a pre-war period and we feel very helpless.\" I mean, it was almost a sort of primal call for help because they're right. It's out of their hands and it was a call to both East and West. Although we of course, took it a little more personally. I'm sort of saying, you know, get it together. You guys are letting this thing get out of control. And I think Americans have a lot of respect for Europeans. you know, for the most part there. And that was really very important. So one of the interesting things is gonna be to see where the Europeans go next, but it's quite clear I think that they're taking it to the streets, if you will, that was characteristic of what happened in Europe. It was not necessarily the solution in this country. That it was gonna take there's gonna be more than just demonstrations. People are gonna have to engage on the issue itself. And people often also asked me a lot about what was the meaning of what happened in New York on June 12th? And I don't have any good answers to that. I was at, I think an example of a very large number of people making a very simple statement. It was sort of directed to the freeze and its terms of its characterization. But I think just more of, you know, serving notice I would say that, they're not gonna leave this issue in a very simple kind of statement that you can only make with that kind of numbers. And so I was pleased to see that it was peaceful less pleased to see what happened the next few days.\r\n\r\n- I'm concerned about the way What are some of the things that can be done in response to\r\n\r\n- Good question. In the Carter administration there was an effort to do what was referred to as CAT, Conventional Arms Transfer negotiation. There was, I think, one meeting in Mexico between US and Soviet representatives and I think one other meeting. And the best way to characterize it would be to say that it did not enjoy broad support within the Carter administration. didn't like it, Vance did, Brown was sort of on the fence about it. And as a consequence, it never had the kind of momentum and support that something like that needs to get off the ground. It's tough, but you're absolutely right. I mean, we are the the fuelers of that conventional arms race. We are the merchants of it all. And if one looks closely at this the issue of how nuclear war might occur and shows how our weapons supplied to countries in the middle East and those of the Soviet union, might be really contributing factors in our own demise as they lead to greater and more damaging conflicts. But that's an important thing for people to understand but boy, conventional arms negotiations and all of that sort of thing. If you try and do it as a negotiation, it's very difficult. I think that that's a realm however, in which unilateral actions on the part of the US can probably be safely undertaken than in the nuclear war areas safely, both from a political standpoint and from a pragmatic national security standpoint. But it's, I would say yet another level of maturity in people's thinking about this issue, but very quickly after you confront the nuclear war issue, you start sort of saying, \"Hey, wait a minute \"there's this other competition.\" And also, you know, have your tax dollars somewhere between 85 and 90% go for conventional weapons, not for nuclear weapons. and the nuclear weapons, one of the reasons they have grown so much is that they're cheap. It's the old more bang for the buck business and nuclear weapons are that personified if we accomplish all of them\r\n\r\n- If we bring all of those weapons into existence and I think a far greater significance of the MX and the Trident II, then the B-1, the B-1 is probably best judged in terms of its cost rather than its threat to sort of stability. But if you, if we did, and if you looked at the world from the Soviet perspective, if you will, which is one of the things that's not always easy to do but it's to try or to see myself as others see me, you would be looking at a situation where all three of the major components of the Soviet nuclear forces would be threatened. We already threatened their bomber force today. They have a very small bomber force of 150 bombers. If we launched the first strike against the Soviet Union we could destroy the bomber force. We do quite a good job of, if you will keeping track of at least some of their submarine force. And if we launched a first strike against that force we do fairly well at that already and probably even better in the future, their ICBM force, their Intercontinental Ballistic Missile Force is the great bulk of their force. Some 70% of their capability is in that, which we now pose a mild threat against. We could destroy maybe 30 to 40% of it if we launched the first strike today. But with MX and Trident II, we could probably destroy somewhere upwards of 90% of it. Now, if I were a Soviet looking at that situation in another 10, 15 years, it would not, it would be quite sober. And whether their response to that threat would be a first strike or not, I would hope not all rationality would still tell them no. They would be able to see that even with a ragged retaliatory force of, you know, 10, 20 30 missiles and a few bombers, they could make a mess out of the United States, but you know, what, what human beings and what nations do when they get cornered, and that's really kind of what they would be do is hard to predict, but it's one of the arguments. And I think one that should be at play in public consideration of issues like MX and Trident II which is what it will do to the Soviet perspective on the world and how they might react. It's the trapped animal, if you will category okay. I'll stop\r\n\r\n- Well, I certainly dismiss it politically today.\r\n\r\n- As a national security question I guess I would say it's unlikely to prove to be a very effective route for reducing the numbers of weapons in some crude way. That's what we did in the late 1960s not from about 65 to about 70. We slowed down a fair amount on building nuclear weapons and kind of hope that the Soviet union would catch up and stop if you will. And they, depending on who you talk to, they sort of did. And we sort of took off again and there's all kinds of different views on it. But I tend to think that, you know, that if you made a one-step, say cut 10% and you know how to cut 10% of the US nuclear forces you'd never go beyond that unless the Soviet did likewise, and then you sort of worked it out in the legal contract. And so that's kinda like what you try and do in Salt negotiations to start with and better you should just start with the bilateral negotiations in the first place. I think if the will is there on both sides you can work at bilaterally. And I think that, I tend to think that there is the will on both sides to work those kinds of basic arms control issues and in time to really reduce the numbers. But that's not gonna solve the problem of preventing nuclear war. It'll help to sort of ease some of the strains in the relationship, but it won't help a bit with things like escalation in the middle East crisis.\r\n\r\n- One. Being a expert , do really you would believe that the weapon systems today are And two, do you think that ability exists, do you think that has evolved intentionally or just food technology just adding a little bit in each year.\r\n\r\n- I would say that nobody knows whether those missiles would actually land with the accuracies that we if you will calculate them to have. But the problem is that somebody might think they will. That somebody on the Soviet side that a Soviet, if you will chief of staff would convince Leonid Brezhnev or his successor that in fact the accuracy was a 10th of a mile that you could land within a football field of a US Minuteman silo and blow it up. And then if they're convinced of it it doesn't matter whether it does it or not. Because once the war starts, then it's all over with. That's the second part of your question. I was gonna write it down.\r\n\r\n- Oh, that's right. On the part of some people, yes. But on the part of the political decision makers, no I think that we in this country are about to engage on that but we have developed quite a capable, you know, a quite substantial capability against Soviet ICBM's today. I mean, we can take out 40% of them sort of roughly, and within a few years we could have the capability even without MX of taking out 50 or 60%. And on the same thing on the Soviet side I think technical people just I can understand it can't resist the technical challenge. And with the feeling that the political decision makers will look after that the next level up. And I think that's certainly one of my experiences of sort of having Tom out of the technical community. Cause that's where I started in this business and gradually worked my way into sort of this more policy oriented stuff which is that's characteristic of the way the problem works. And I don't blame the technical people. Their job is to come up with the best technical options and somebody up above makes the decision. But it's the situation and I, I've written about that something that read where, you know, you get at a level and you sort of say, gee, \"at my level, this \"doesn't seem to work very well. \"People don't seem to know very well what they're doing. \"It must be at the next level up \"that people have got it together no matter where it is\" And, you know basically, that was the story of my life for seven, eight years in Washington. And then I got to the white house and it wasn't really much any place to go up beyond that. At least it was dealing with nuclear war issues. And I once I characterize this, quoting somebody in an article one time as a feeling of where are the grownups? where you suddenly realize that, you know there isn't anybody here more grown up than I am. And that is, you know it has its sort of mixed sort of responses. One is to be very sober needless to say that certain a year in a position where you recognized that, you know, as much if not more about this issue than, you know, anybody that's around you and sort of people that are overhead and there's nobody above them. And at the same but it's also a sort of the sort of exhilarating in the sense of sort of feeling well I can really do something, you know, sort of I characterize it as in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is King. Sexist statement. That's very much of the experience that in this business. There are no experts. I mean, experts, if there were experts we'd have figured out how to solve this problem. And it's fundamental to what needs to be done that everybody recognize that. You know, in this business there are no grownups, it's just all us kids. I'm sorry. I wish it could be other ones. I was gonna tell him to in it is sort of the question of whether the Soviets would attack. When I didn't have a story. When the Carter administration first came into office I survived the change in administration. And in the first couple of weeks, I was then called over to the white house to the situation room to meet with Hamilton Jordan, Jody Powell, and Jerry Ralph's unit up to three of the other sort of high priests in the Carter campaign to tell them about nuclear war and what this business was all about. And, you know, they were fresh out of Georgia and they knew a lot about how to get elected president but they didn't know much about nuclear war. So we started with the basics and I said, you know this is what it's all about. And you know, there's this basic issue of sort of how much is enough. You know, what do you have to be able to do to the Russians in retaliation so that when the, you know, Leonid Brezhnev is deciding whether to attack the United States on some calm blue day, he says no or yes. And we told him how well, you know, maybe its a few cities you know, maybe it's a thousand cities, you know but is we've sort of never been able to figure that out. And we built an arsenal 10,000 nuclear weapons pointed at the Soviet union while we've been trying to figure it out what turns off Leonid Brezhnev, what's his threshold of pain if you will. And Helen Johnson. And he says, \"well, I know \"that what would deter us from attacking the Soviet union \"And that is if they could respond with one nuclear weapon on Washington DC during working hours\", which that was sort of minimum idea about what it took to deter. But you know, I think it's certainly captured the low end of people's perception about what it takes to deter the other side from attacking.\r\n\r\n- Okay. 800,000 people in front of you. civil disobedience. Two days later I invite the question is what has it been better? wouldn't it be better if 800,000 people sort of on Monday and 1700 people showed up on Saturday a statement.\r\n\r\n- Oh, it would have been more of a statement. The question is whether it would have contributed to a solution to the problem. Let me make a, a general statement which says that I'm not, you know we all work problems in ways that are comfortable to us. And you know, I came out of a period of of the sixties when I couldn't appreciate some some acts of civil disobedience, if you will. Although that, wasn't the thing that that I did at the time, but I'd say that civil disobedience is when you don't have an answer to the problem, is different from, for example in the Vietnam war period where the answer was player you know, stop the bond and get out of Vietnam. The answer to this problem is not clear. And in that sense the people that engaged in civil disobedience, I didn't know what they wanted people to do. I mean what was the option that they wanted people to pursue that was different from what was happening in New York where people were sitting down and trying to sort of come to grips with the fact that this problem was out of control in a fairly serious fashion. And in one of the very few environments, admittedly not a very effective one, but in one of the very few environments in which national leaders get together and talk about the problem. And in that sense, it didn't seem very constructive to me know. And certainly I would say from a political standpoint not a very good idea at this point in time. If you believe that there's a very large number of people in this country who most of all need to simply if you will get into the tent and face some fundamental facts about nuclear war they're not gonna be encouraged to do so by 1600 or even 800,000 people laying down in front of the police in New York. I mean, that's just a personal view but I think it's analytical. 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