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And we're very privileged to have a speaker tonight who has been on campus a few other times throughout the years, but he's back here now to give us a presentation about religion and peace in the '90s. Our speaker is John Swomley, who is a longtime peace activist and academic who has authored numerous books, including some books we have here in the front if anybody wants to take a look afterwards, including \"Liberation Ethics,\" \"Religious Liberty and the Secular State,\" and other books, including \"American Empire.\" Dr. Swomley has been active in a number of peace groups throughout the years, most notably the Fellowship of Reconciliation, in which he served in national offices, and also with a number of other national religious groups and bodies. He presently serves on the board of the Fellowship of Reconciliation and also the American Civil Liberties Union. He is in Kansas City, Missouri these days, retired, and we are very privileged to have him speaking tonight.\r\n\r\n- Thanks. The topic... Well, I've gotta get this mic . The topic that I've been asked to talk about sounds rather innocuous. I didn't choose it, religion and peace, but I hope to speak to it. The peace movement today is probably in one sense the strongest it's ever been in the United States. There are literally hundreds and maybe even thousands of small decentralized groups all over the country. But it is also in a very weak position, because these groups all function by and large as local or state groups without any national strategy. And one of the emphases of the peace movement over the years has been nonviolence. But some people, people that I value highly, like the Berrigan Brothers, just keep on doing the same thing over and over again and have lost the public initiative in the sense that the media pays any attention to them anymore. So the peace movement in the United States lacks a centralized strategy, and it lacks some way of operating on the American scene so as to influence basic political decisions. The chief thing I think that has happened to the entire peace movement, religious and otherwise, is Mr. Gorbachev. Mr. Gorbachev, by his various actions and unilateral initiatives, has created a feeling that there is no longer any crisis and that therefore things are going to take care of themselves and people who operate in the peace movement are not going to have to worry very much. And that is a deadly thing. On the other hand, Mr. Gorbachev's initiative came, I think, out of the Institute for American and Canadian Studies in the Soviet Union. And the head of that institute, the director, a man named Georgi Arbatow, in a letter to the New York Times said some time ago, quote, \"We have a secret weapon that will work almost regardless of the...\" Excuse me while I get this thing... \"Almost regardless of the American response. We would deprive America of the enemy. And how would you justify without it the military expenditures that bleed the American economy white, a policy that draws America into dangerous adventures overseas and drives wedges between the United States and its allies, not to mention the loss of American influence in neutral countries?\" Now that's a very interesting concept, that a major power which has always been the opponent of the United States since the Second World War should decide to deprive us of an enemy so as to change the entire world political situation. And that is what has happened. However, it has changed almost everybody except the United States. If you think for a moment as to what the United States does in terms of foreign policy, you might realize that the United States has used the Soviet Union as an excuse for its tremendous military buildup. And the military, of course, has known, as some of us in the peace movement have known, that the Soviet Union really wasn't much of a threat in recent years. A recent statement by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the United States indicated that the primary Soviet concern is and it has been the security and integrity of the Soviet homeland, and, quote, \"Since the late '40s, the Soviets have demonstrated hesitancy to use military power to achieve their foreign policy goals,\" end of quote. And they indicated that the most important of their goals was to maintain dominance over the land and sea areas adjacent to their borders. Now, they never told us this during all of that period because they wanted to use the Soviet Union as a method for building up and continuing to build up American military strength. If we had a map of the world here, and I regret that we don't, I could demonstrate something of what the basic military strategy of the United States has been and how we are pursuing this in spite of Mr. Gorbachev. If you could imagine a map of the world here and you start up at the northern tip of Norway and you come all the way down the west coast of Europe to Gibraltar and then all the way down the west coast of Africa to the very tip at Cape Town, you would realize that there is no Soviet base along that entire area. Every base is controlled by the United States and its allies. You come across the Atlantic to the northern tip of Greenland and come down the east coast of Canada and the United States to Cuba. Even the major base in Cuba, Guantanamo, is under the control of the United States. And then you go all the way down the east coast of Central and Latin America, and there is no Soviet base. The United States or its allies control all of that. Now, you go to the Pacific and you start at the northern part of Alaska and come down the west coast of Canada and the United States and all the way down to the tip of South America, and you would discover that every major base, or every base, actually, is controlled by the United States and its allies. And then you go over to Asia and you start up at the northernmost tip, and the first important base that the Soviet Union has anywhere in the area I've been discussing is in the Kamchatka peninsula. If you don't know where that is, that's where the Soviet shot down a Korean plane some time ago because it was going close to the major Soviet base there. The next Soviet base is in the, inside the Japan Sea, Vladivostok, and the United States and Japan have a joint strategy of what they call choke points of bottling up the Soviet fleet or submarines in the event of any conflict. And then the next base of the Soviet Union of any importance is one we gave to them. It's Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam, which we turned over to Vietnam when we lost there and which Vietnam permitted the Soviet Union to use. But then you go down the east coast of Africa, and again the major bases are under the control of the United States or its allies. The United States Navy views every body of water as its lake. Even the Baltic, which is inside the Soviet orbit, the United States Navy operates steadily in underwater fashion, so that the United States has adopted a maritime global strategy. And why do we do this? Because the United States at the end of the Second World War inherited the ashes of the British, French, and Dutch and other empires. And the United States, while it has some colonies, such as Guam and Samoa and the three major island trusteeships which are in the Pacific and Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands and so on and a protectorate in Africa, Liberia, our empire is much larger than that. We have major holdings, we have 4,000 military or naval bases scattered all over the world, and 300 of them are really major ones. We also operate in a business capacity with something like 4,000 US-based multinational corporations that operate in most parts of the world, so that if you were to read the reports of the Secretary of Defense, as I have in recent years, you will note that the major military expenditure has not been to counter the Soviet Union. It has not been for nuclear missiles. It has been for the conventional military and naval forces that can preserve this American empire. I could describe it in more detail, but that's not the point of my remarks this evening, except to indicate that the United States has not been greatly impacted in its military buildup and military foreign policy since Mr. Gorbachev's initiatives. Let me give you an illustration. Mr. Gorbachev, as you know, has on a number of occasions announced unilateral cuts in Soviet expenditures and withdrawal of hundreds of tanks and armed forces from Eastern Europe and from Mongolia and other places. But the United States, instead of responding with similar cuts or with similar efforts, has actually used this as an opportunity to build up its strength, and it is modernizing short-range and intermediate-range missiles which the Soviet Union was cutting down on, which we read also, to do something about it. Or take Afghanistan. The Soviet Union acknowledged just the other day to the state, but it acknowledged it practically before when it withdrew troops from Afghanistan. But what happened with the United States? We escalated the conflict in the vicinity of Afghanistan. We escalated it in terms of military supplies and in terms of funding for Afghan tribes and for Islamic fundamentalist groups there. The Soviets also pressed Cuba to withdraw troops from Angola, but the United States, as they were being withdrawn, not only continued to finance and arm Jonas Savimbi, who was the major reason that the Cuban troops were there to protect the Angolan government, but we also winked at South Africa's continued support of Savimbi. The Soviet Union in both Poland and Hungary and in other Eastern European countries has actually permitted and encouraged voting and the reorganizing of these governments, even if they were to depart from having communist regimes. But the United States didn't do anything reciprocally. We instead are concentrating now on manipulating the elections in Nicaragua and are funding them through open United States government resources. And the Congress doesn't do anything to stop this. Bush says this is to level the playing field. Well, the playing field was long ago level, but we put an embargo on them and ruined their economy and did a lot of other things. Or you can take what we're doing in Panama to overthrow the dictator, the military dictator Noriega. I have nothing to say that's good about him, but I do want to say that we are trying to replace him with a civilian client government that will do what we want done. In other words, the issue here is national sovereignty. While the Soviets are beginning to respect national sovereignty in Eastern Europe, we are doing exactly the opposite and trying to extend our control in Afghanistan, because that's the issue there. We want to take over Afghanistan. We want to take back control over Panama. We want to take back control over Nicaragua, and so on. The United States, or the Bush administration, has shown no signs whatever of wanting to treat Cuba any differently as a result of the weakening of Soviet military power. Cuba has not been a threat to us in 30 years, 90 miles from our shore, and we treat them as if they are a very dangerous and hostile country. In the Middle East, the Soviets have pressed Syria and Iran to seek a regional settlement and even to set forth conditions under which they would release hostages. The United States, willing to accept whatever the Soviet grants in the Middle East, but the United States refuses to intervene in Israel, to release thousands of Palestinians held in custody without charges and without trial, and we continue to support whatever Israel does in that particular place. And one of the most recent things, of course, is the chemical weapons. Mr. Bush made a speech in the United Nations, and also we had discussions between Secretary Baker and Shevardnadze, and we called upon the Soviet Union to ban up to 80% of chemical weapons if we did so. They not only said, we will do that, but we will ban them all if you will do so. But what does the Bush administration respond? It says, 80% is as far as we're prepared to go. It's continuing to manufacture binary weapons which can be used. We participated as a nation in the international gathering of I think it was 147 nations, encouraging others, especially small countries like Libya and others, not to produce chemical weapons and to ban them. And now the charge that has been leveled against us is we do not want to ban chemical warfare. We want another Non-Proliferation Treaty in which we get all of these small countries to agree not to make it while we continue to make it, which is exactly what we did in the Non-Proliferation treaty but with respect to nuclear weapons. We got all these countries that we could to sign that they would not produce them, and then they insisted on a clause that if they signed, the major powers would then begin nuclear disarmament. Instead we rearmed. We're in that kind of a position in the world today where we have taken advantage of the lack of crisis with respect to the Soviet Union by continuing to renew our hold on and to try to expand the American empire. Now, what have the religious forces in the United States done, or religious forces anywhere, as a matter of fact, to deal with these things? First of all, I want to talk about the major problem that the United States has been facing in Latin America. I don't know how many of you are students either of philosophy or religion. Maybe you all are. But you probably know that the ancient Greeks or ancient Greek concern with the welfare of the city, which was how they identified the word politics, has a very significant religious counterpart in what we can speak of today as liberation theology and liberation as such, because liberation theology, which grew up in Latin America, is aimed at liberating people from whatever it is that enslaves or oppresses them. And one of the things that has enslaved and oppressed the people in Latin America for centuries has been the combination of the military, the civil government, and the Roman Catholic Church. Those three operated in behalf of the ruling classes. With the development of the Second Vatican Council and with the development then in Latin America of what is known as the Medellin Manifesto or declaration, you had also the development of a group called Priests of the Third World, who actually began working not for capitalism anymore, not for communism. That's why the Third World is, in their judgment, the Latin America, but it's other developing countries. And in Brazil, you had thousands of Roman Catholic poor people joining what are known as base communities, where they actually studied the Bible and where they viewed religion and politics from the standpoint of the poor. That concept spread to Nicaragua. And the heart of the Nicaraguan Revolution is not what President Reagan said it was, communism or Marxism. It was these base communities organized around economic cooperatives, around Bible study, and around literacy and other programs for the benefit of the people. Well, I believe that this is Biblical religion. I think the basic message of the Bible in the Hebrew scriptures and in the Christian scriptures is liberation. The word used in the Bible is redemption, but it has an identical meaning with our modern word liberation. And the Bible speaks, in the Hebrew Scriptures, redemption from slavery in Egypt, redemption from violence, redemption from adversity, and a number of other things. The Year of Jubilee was the year when Hebrew slaves were released. Jesus said in his statement of purpose, said he came to proclaim release to the captives, recovery of sight to the blind, and to set at liberty those who are oppressed and to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord. Now, the acceptable year of the Lord was the Year of Jubilee, the year of freedom, the year of liberation. And you could go through, I don't want to talk about the Bible all evening here, but you could go through it and you could find numerous other evidences of this. And one of the most significant bits of evidence is the fact that now, 2000 or more years later, the central Jewish festival is the festival of the Passover, which is the festival of liberation. So what happens now? The United States government does not like this. And the United States has a secret government. It's not simply the CIA. It's not simply the White House basement with Oliver North and Admiral Poindexter and others that are familiar to you. It's a whole group of special forces. In my audience this morning there was a man who had just gotten out of the Marine Corps, and when somebody challenged me on something I was saying, he said, \"Oh, I was in the Marine Corps, but there were these special forces that would fly off somewhere secret. We never knew what they did. And then they would come back and resume the uniform.\" Well, what they do is they go out, they descend on a country. They sometimes have a quick coup d'etat. They sometimes kidnap. They sometimes go in and shell. The most we know about it in a specific operation was discussed in with the way these special forces went into Grenada. But there is a whole secret process at work in the United States. Now, there is an even further secret process, and here's where I get into the religious forces. I want to say that if any of you who are either Roman Catholics or who are not and who might use this as an anti-Catholic argument, that that's not my intention. I want to discuss only the Vatican, not what individual priests, nuns, sometimes bishops, well, bishops have to conform more than they should, and certainly not laity. The most important link in the Latin American situation is the appointment by the present Pope of Cardinal Obando y Bravo. Now, this man, who was an archbishop, or is still an archbishop, was Somoza's leading religious supporter under the old regime where the church and the military and the political were pretty much like that. And he was chosen out of a number of much better possibilities. Interesting thing is that when he had his, I forget the technical term, but when he went back to Nicaragua for the big celebration, not one archbishop from any other country in Central or Latin America showed up, which was unusual. And Obando not only became the principle opponent of the Sandinistas, but a spokesman for the CIA-led Contras and the Reagan administration inside Nicaragua. Obando received $100,000 each year from the Reagan administration. In 1988, the National Catholic Reporter, published in my hometown of Kansas City, a front-page article said that the United States Agency for International Development was providing additional funds to Cardinal Obando so that he could pay each of five Washington and Miami-based consultants $9,000 every month, and not only a violation of the American concept of separation of church and state but a violation of international law, and so on. Now, when the Pentagon decided on psychological warfare by sending thousands of troops to Honduras to engage in what they were, what they called training maneuvers near the Nicaraguan border, the Nicaraguan government feared an invasion and began a program of military conscription of its youth. The cardinal immediately attacked conscription and made it the focal point of internal opposition to the Sandinistas, thus participating in the psychological warfare waged by the Pentagon. Now, there have been various other things happening. The Vatican has been trying to curb Latin American theologians. Some it has silenced. It has silenced some in this country. And it has also been appointing very conservative bishops who do not approve of the Christian base communities. And a very important Latin American publication that I read a few years ago indicated that the Pope has developed a theology of reconciliation, which is a good word, but it aims in this context at eliminating the church of the poor in Latin America by bringing them back into the traditional church and establishing a new, quote, \"Christian civilization, based on a church-dominated society instead of the modern secular state.\" End of quote. Now, what that means is that there is an attempt by conservative forces, which the Vatican goes along with, to turn back the clock in Central and South America. The Reagan-Bush administration has acknowledged this. In fact, there has been, so I understand, some real collusion here, according to the first ambassador to the Vatican, a man named Wilson. And the Reagan-Bush administration responded, first of all, by official diplomatic recognition of the Vatican in 1984 and the sending out of an ambassador. The second was the decision to stop funding any international family planning groups which either were involved in performing abortions or referring people to counseling where abortion counseling might have taken place. And when this was before the United States Congress for action, Mother Theresa was brought to the United States to lobby Congress, along with U.S. Catholic bishops, in an effort to stop all U.S. funding of family planning overseas except for those officially approved by the Vatican, such as natural family planning. George Bush, when he was vice president, then persuaded the U.S. Agency for International Development to end the US policy of providing aid to all family planning programs that offer access to all methods of birth control, now, this in spite of the fact that numerous Third World countries were asking the United States and the United Nations for a full range of birth control services. There's more along these lines, including the growth of funding the United States for natural family planning from $80,000 in 1981 to 7.8 million in 1985. Now, the second religious group... Well, let me say another word here. There are two other areas which I think affect the peace program in the years to come, and they certainly have in the past. One is in Lebanon. If you read the newspapers, you will discover that the papers speak of Christian militia and Christian armed forces, and they speak also of Muslim or Shiite armed forces. Now, the Christian forces are almost entirely Maronite, with a very definite link to the Vatican. Not this Pope, but I think the previous Pope was pushed by these forces in Lebanon for some support for military training. And a Lebanese journalist who was quoted in a book I reviewed for the National Catholic Reporter on the papacy in the Middle East indicated that a secret organization in Rome sent emissaries to Lebanon and selected the best of these Christian armed forces for going to a place that the Pope had arranged for in Belgium for guerilla military training. Now, I think we know the background of the Muslim forces. But this war has been kept going by religious incitement or religious cooperation at a number of levels, and one of them certainly has been Israel. Now there's a peace accord. The peace accord came as a result of the Arab League, not, basically, as a result of religious forces, unless you can speak of Saudi Arabia's leadership as a religious Islamic force. And then of course the terrorism that's taking place on both sides in Northern Ireland. We read much more about what happens in terms of the Protestant right-wing Ulster Defense League killing Catholics. But this process goes on with the IRA doing the same thing with Protestants, especially along the border areas, where farmers then fear for their lives and emigrate to another country. The background of this, of course, is that many, many people, and especially in Southern Ireland, are wanting the North to unite. The North, which is, oh, I don't know, it's, it's probably largely Protestant, it may be 60% or 65, doesn't want to unite because in the South you have a largely theocratic government. Father Pat Buckley... I was in Ireland just this summer. Father Pat Buckley, one of the outspoken Catholic priests, says that there will not be any cessation of this until Southern Ireland becomes a secular state which is not ruled by what he calls the shadow government. For example, nobody may get a divorce in Southern Ireland. If, in fact, couples separate, there may be no remarriage. There's no way for child support of these couples to take place unless the father and the mother who are now separated negotiate a voluntary agreement, which sometimes happens. No abortions are permitted, but the usual high rate of abortions, people go to England and to Wales for them. All of the schools are religiously dominated. The state provides for Protestant, that is, Anglican and an occasional Presbyterian, as well as one Jewish school in Dublin. But the great bulk, of course, in a dwindling Protestant and Jewish climate, are Roman Catholic, so that if you happen to be an atheist or a humanist or a Protestant or a Jew outside of Dublin, you have to get not only, you have not only to go to a Catholic school but get a Catholic religious training, because they're inseparable, and the state pays for all of this. Now, here you have a problem. How do you resolve that in terms of getting a substantially Protestant North to agree to unite with this group? How do you get nationalist groups in the South who go north to use military methods to deal with the problem, and then you get reprisals and counter-reprisals, and this thing, it becomes a very difficult process. So religion is very deeply involved in what I call military problems. Now let's turn to another group that is collaborating in this case with the United States government, and that is the Jewish national state Israel. And again, if any of you have inclinations toward antisemitism, forget about them. There are not only, as I may have indicated or should have indicated, many Catholic groups, perhaps the majority of priests, I don't know, who oppose what the Vatican is doing, but there are Jewish peace groups in this country. There are Jewish peace groups in Israel. And I helped form an American Israeli civil liberties coalition which is trying to get a bill of rights introduced into Israel so that people are protected. We must not use these for our own particular biases or prejudices. Now, in reporting this, I think it's important to note that almost every Jew, maybe all, view rightly with horror the Nazi German persecution of Jews and the Holocaust. But somehow in Israel, many have lost sight of this and are doing many of the same things to Palestinians. Let me just give you one illustration. A report coming out of Israel and especially out of Palestinian Israel entitled \"Children in Military Prisons\" describes the imprisonment, beatings, and torture of children who are 10 and 11 years old. Many are 12, 13, and 14 years old and are crowding the Israeli military prisons in the West Bank and Gaza. Many are the victims of arbitrary arrest, sometimes while attending classes at school. And of course there are literally thousands of adults who are in detention camps or in prisons because they're Palestinians who have been resisting the Israelis, some non-violently and some throwing stones. Although the United States government does not encourage such persecution, it vetoes United Nations criticisms of Israel and continues to provide a fourth of all U.S. foreign aid to Israel, far more than to any other country. Israel, with the knowledge and consent of the United States, has developed nuclear weapons and is estimated to have at least 200 of them. Israel also, I think with the knowledge of the United States, gave South Africa major assistance in developing nuclear weapons, now estimated at between 10 and 20. It helped South Africa develop a neutron bomb which could destroy large black populations without destroying any buildings. Israeli advisors have been teaching the South African government the arts of suppressing black South Africans who are struggling against apartheid. Israel's armed forces have been provided to all branches of the South African armed forces for training in counter-insurgency warfare against blacks and for counter-intelligence to discover what those opposed to apartheid are planning and doing. And Israel also helped South Africa establish control of the long-suffering population in Namibia, which is now at last beginning to get some signs of freedom. Israeli propaganda used the term community development programs, but this is a euphemism for what we called pacification programs when we practiced them in Vietnam. Israel is second only to the United States, if in fact it is second, in the use of terrorism. Since 1981, Israel has bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor, invaded Lebanon, bombed Tunisia, tried to persuade India to conduct a joint raid on Pakistan's nuclear research facility, and raided refugee camps in Lebanon many times. I could go on with this. Let me skip for a moment to Israel's action in Central America. Israel has technicians all over Central America who double as intelligence agents for the military governments of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala and as military trainers. The Salvadoran secret police had security advisors from Israel, and Roberto D'Aubuisson, who became the death squad and right wing leader in El Salvador, was a student of the Israeli instructors. Israeli technicians in El Salvador have installed a very sophisticated computer system to monitor telephone, water, and electricity usage in every house in the city, the capital city. Now, what they do then is to pinpoint unusual or heavy usage of any utilities. For example, they pick out what the norm is in each house for telephone usage, and if it increases substantially over a period of time, let's say over a period of three days or a week, then they conclude and report this to the Salvadoran military authorities that this is being used for organizing, presumably for organizing against the government, and the government then moves in. Or they do this with the electricity and water usage. They conclude that if over a period of a few days or longer much more usage is taking place, that there's more than one family harbored here and they may be harboring guerrillas, and then the situation is reported. But Israel also taught the Guatemalans how to use a scorched earth pacification program against peasants and against Indians so that they could not support guerrilla projects. Israel was a major supplier of military aid to the Contras, and when United States military aid was cut off by the Congress, Israel filled the gap with shipload after shipload of weapons and ammunition sent to Honduras for the Contras. There is some evidence that after the Argentine advisers stopped training the Contras in the early days, the Israelis took over, drawing top pay of $6,500 to $10,000 a month, presumably paid by the CIA, because the Contras didn't have any other real means of support. Now, what about the situation here in the United States? One reason that Israel can do this and get away with it is because of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC, A-I-P-A-C. You know what a PAC is. It's a committee, public affairs committee that you can funnel money into on almost any cause to send to a member of Congress or to groups of Congress for political influence. And this particular group is the main voice of American Jewry and probably the most feared lobby in Washington. It's been able to defeat senators on issues when they voted the wrong way in supplying Saudi Arabia or somebody else with weapons that the Israeli government didn't want them to supply. It claims the defeat of Senator Charles Percy of Illinois. Thomas Dine, the executive director of AIPAC, took credit for Percy's defeat in a Toronto speech when he said, and I quote, \"All the Jews in America from coast to coast gathered to oust Percy, and the American politicians got the message,\" end of quote. Ah, that's not true. All of the Jews didn't do that. I know some who didn't, and there are probably a lot who didn't. But the impact was one that he cited. Now, this particular group is a lobby. There were 13 pro-Israel PACs in the 1986 elections, and a Wall Street Journal study said that AIPAC officials, such as members of the national council or executive committee, are chairs or treasurers of at least 51 pro-Israel PACs. Now, what does this amount to? In 1984, $1.5 million was given to House candidates, especially those who were on the Foreign Affairs and Appropriations committees, and 1.8 million contributed to people, senators running who were also on these particular types of committees. Then something else has happened. The lobbying is not just with Congress, it's with the Executive Branch. For example, when Israel decided to invade Lebanon, the United States Mediterranean fleet took up battle stations along the coast of Lebanon to give air cover and other cover in case the Soviet Union would intervene. And since those days, also, the private American donations to Israel, unlike to any other foreign country, are now tax deductible. And what this means is that there's an additional U.S. Treasury contribution. To the $3 billion in current Congressional aid you have to add $1 billion that private Jewish organizations annually send to Israel. In other words, Americans contribute yearly about $1,000 for every Israeli person. Now, what this further adds up to is that Israel is the only country, so far as I know, that receives its entire aid in the first 30 days, rather than in payments over the rest of the year, and thus costs American taxpayers several hundred million dollars in lost interest. But Israeli products enter the United States without any duty charge. And this means that when we banned certain products from South Africa being sold to the United States, Israel had them sent or shipped from South Africa to Israel, repackaged, and sent to the United States duty free. If you want to check on some of these things, there's an excellent book written by Jane Hunter. I think it's called \"Israeli Foreign Policy.\" But it's a thoroughly documented book. Now, there are other groups, religious groups. There's the Institute on Religion and Democracy, which is a largely Protestant group formed in April, 1981 by a group of Evangelical religious personnel and political activists. And this group is, doesn't have a constituency. It's a board. But these board members are key people in forming other groups and participating in other groups. And among the activities that it pursues is opposition within the major Protestant denominations to hamper or stop any support of liberation movements in the Third or developing world. It was responsible for the 1963 Reader's Digest attack on the churches, the CBS 60 Minutes accusation against the social agenda of the Protestant churches, and it has even organized groups to infiltrate major Protestant groups. It's got a group within the Methodist Church and one within the Presbyterian Church which make false accusations claiming that, well, one of the claims is that contributions, well, let me quote here. One of their board members said, \"Most Methodist churchgoers would react with disbelief, even anger, to be told that a significant portion of their weekly offerings were being siphoned off to groups supporting the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the governments of Cuba and Vietnam, the pro-Soviet totalitarian movements of Latin America, Asia, and Africa, and several violence-prone groups in this country.\" But they never could demonstrate what these were. And, but the damage was done. 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They also include missions and centers, such as the Central American Mission, and Christian Center. And the Christian Center, is a project of Trans World Mission. That's been helped by the Assemblies of God Churches, that's been helped by the Campus Crusade. And they have actually organized, a administrative headquarters in Costa Rica, from which they organized secret cells, in such places as Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Guatemala. And they've received funding, from right-wing financial sources, including Adolph Coors the beer magnate, and the Roman Catholic. So you see the right-wing, gets support. Now let me say a further word, one of the major problems in this religious activity, against peace, is the Moon Organization. And the Moon Organization, is probably the wealthiest, of the right-wing groups. It is a part of a coalition, of groups that you don't think of, as being associated with them. For example, the Reverend Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, have as their fundraising organization, an organization under the control of a man named Richard Viguerie, who happens to be a Roman Catholic. So here you have a Catholic firm, with all of the lists of Protestant fundamentalists, and evangelicals, especially in the South and some in the Midwest. Now, when Viguerie overplayed his hand, and was heavily in debt by $1.5 million, so that he was on the verge of bankruptcy. The Moon Enterprises, they have a lot of front groups, over 100 front groups and one of them it's called the US Property Development Corporation. It paid Viguerie's organization, for the suburban Virginia office building, which housed his headquarters, it paid him the sum or that organization, $10 million. The result is now that Viguerie, serves on the five main board, of the Moon dominated American Freedom Coalition, so that you have this highly interrelated, right-wing group. And when the CIA Director William Casey proposed, that non-governmental funds be used for Nicaragua, after the Congress cut them off, Oliver North adds the creation of a non-profit foundation called the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund. On May 5, 1985, The Washington Times which is owned and controlled by the Moon Organization, its editor announced the birth, of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund in a front page editorial, which sought $14 million dollars in country aid, precisely the amount, the house denied to the country's just two weeks before. And Bo Hi Pack, Moons right-hand man, and a former Korean intelligence officer, provided the first donation, in the name of The Washington Times. Well, there is so much more, about their operation in other Latin American countries, in the Philippines, and around the world. On the positive side, let me add, that contrary to what I said about the Vatican and Nicaragua, the US Catholic Bishops have been staunch, in opposing US government aid Nicaragua. So have the Protestant Churches. There isn't a great deal, that is positive in the way of opposition to, the CIA at any other point. Or to opposition to US imperialism, at any other point, though, there was some opposition in the Philippines. What do we do now? I think that the those of us who are connected with whatever church or synagogue, have got to recognize that the world, is not getting any better. It's increasingly in a state of crisis, without are being fully aware of it, and therefore we don't act. We have got to do what we can, to bring influence, or pressure to bear upon our own religious groups, to change and not to support, American imperialism. And not to support the oppression, in the third world. We have also got to insist, that the United States stop, it's continued nuclear development. It's built up of secret forces. You know, the CIA during the Reagan administration, was operating in more than 50 countries in the world. The major place being Afghanistan, not Central American. They're continuing to do this. Without the aid of the churches, in speaking out and in loving, and other work for peace, there's very, very little chance, that few secular groups can do it. And certainly the disorganized Peace Movement, is not going to do it, because there has not thus far been a central strategy. I wanna close by saying that, a few years ago, I invited the Berrigan Brothers and Sid Lens, he's now dead, but some of you might know it. We called a group in, we sent out a letter to 50 people. Inviting them to a meeting in Washington, trying to get together, major peace groups on one common resistance program. We called this, The Agenda for Non Collaboration. 20 people showed up. But we've never really got it off the ground. We tried again, we had a meeting in Nyack, New York, of some 40 National peace organizations. We could not get agreement, on what to do in the field of peace, to try to reverse, some of the things I've been talking about here today. So if you are active in peace movements, peace organizations, do what you can. You don't have to wipe out the group, and join another group. You can get coalitions, you can get collaboration. But keep this idea alive. Mr. Gorbachev has not solved our problem. He's gone a long way, but we are the problem. And the problem is always, one of repentance. And I define repentance in political terms like this, that I have no control whatsoever over Mr. Gorbachev in the Soviet Union, or over Mr. Deng in China. I don't even have control over the President of the United States. I don't have control over any one of you, here in this room this evening. The only person over whom I do have control, is myself. My own church, my own community, my own college or school. If I wants to change the world, I have got to start at the point, where I have some control. And that means that I have got to have, a commitment of peace. And the things of peace, that make me work in season and out. Whether the church leadership, in the church I belong to, does it or not, I've got to keep this. I've got to do it in the college, where I'm at work. Because the world is going, to go repeatedly, to wars all over the place. If not a global war. And there are dozens of wars right now, taking place in the world today. So, what is our task? The task is repentance, is this what the United States is doing? Gorbachev may be doing it in part now. But Robert Hutchins years ago, summarized the American position, in these words, he said, \"The United States, \"is not seeking so much to be good, \"as to be powerful. \"In order to force other nations to be good, \"so that then it will be safe for us, \"to be good.\" Now that's a directory reversal, of the Hebrew Christian concept of repentance. And if we wanna be active, we've got to begin with ourselves, and with our own group. Thank you very much, and I'm open for questions if you...\r\n\r\n- Just raise your hand and John will, answer any questions you have.\r\n\r\n- I will try to answer--\r\n\r\n- Try and answer.\r\n\r\n- Okay. You don't have to have questions. All right, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- I have a question probably kinda technical, but you were talking about chemical warfare?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- what does that involve, what does that deal with?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Chemical warfare involves a whole range of weapons. Some of them are the kind of weapons used in World War One, such as mustard gas, which penetrates the skin and the lungs and so on. Kills you. But, what the United States is working on now, are known as binary weapons, that is they, create two different chemicals, which they put in the same shell, that is the, artillery or other shell. And in-flight they mix. And these binary weapons include again a range, nerve gas, just a slightest drop, on any part of any person's body, will kill them. And the United States stopped making weapons for a time. I think Nixon began the process of stopping, Carter continued it, and Reagan resumed it, and Bush's now continuing it. That's basically what it is. And we we did some damage to Libya, because they were alleged to have begun building, a chemical factory, that could be used either for agricultural chemistry, or for poison gas. And we precipitated, the destruction of their two planes. The only newspaper that I saw that actually reported this, on the inside pages was the New York Times. But we don't want other countries to do, what we want to continue to do. And that's the moral problem. Plus the moral problem, of what damage it does. Yes sir?\r\n\r\n- What do you mean by we, precipitated the destruction of those plants? So those plants that we've heard about, in the past year, in Libya, are now destroyed--\r\n\r\n- No, no, no. We did not actually bomb the plants. But the New York Times indicated, that the, naval action was preliminary, to taking out the plants. Now, the way the New York Times described it, was along these lines. They said that the United States, Mediterranean Fleet had for some time, been engaging in naval maneuvers, so close to the Libyan shore, that Libya would send up planes, to come out, into the Mediterranean, in their coastal areas. On this particular occasion, when we shut down two Libyan planes, one of them was alleged to have been armed, the other one was alleged to have been unarmed. But, the fleet, came close in order to provoke this, I quoted naval authorities who actually said this, in order to provoke it, so that they could tell how quickly, the Libyan Air Force would respond if attacked, and where they were based, and so on if the United States, chose to go and bomb the chemical plant. I wrote this up in a four page, thing I did, I don't have it with me. But based largely on the New York Times reporting. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I have two questions. Initially you said a statement, that the Soviets hesitated to react, circumstances. And what I know about history, is that doesn't occur. I just wanted you to expand on what...\r\n\r\n- I was...\r\n\r\n- About that opinion.\r\n\r\n- My statement about that was a quotation from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of the United States. I'll quote it again. \"The primary Soviet concerns the security \"and integrity of the Soviet homeland. \"And since the late 40s, \"the Soviets have demonstrated hesitancy, \"to use military power, \"to achieve their foreign policy goals.\"\r\n\r\n- Do you agree with that?\r\n\r\n- Yes. Not because they said it, but, what he didn't tell you, is I have a PhD in Political Science, and part of it is in Soviet and Chinese affairs. And I've been the Soviet Union, lectured over there. And one of the amazing things, is that, in the 40s, I wrote a critical booklet, called the Soviet Peace Offensive, in which I criticized it, as a tool of Soviet government in foreign policy. After I went over there, I discovered, first of all, that these Soviet peace movements, are officially sponsored. They're not like our peace organizations, independent, and therefore able to criticize openly the government. But, on the other hand, they did, again and again, come out against nuclear weapons, and against nuclear warfare. And I actually spoke at one of these rallies, of 10,000 people. Nobody asked me for a manuscript, I said what I wanted to say, I criticized the war in Afghanistan, this was in 1984. And afterwards, a whole group of Soviet citizens came out, we had a group of Americans there too, and involved with both peace crews. And some of our younger crowd, some even younger than you are, had musical instruments. And they came out ahead of the Soviet crowd, and they sat on the steps of this amphitheater. And they began strumming songs. And one of them was, Aint Gonna Study War No More. And I was amazed to see, roughly about 100 to 150 Soviet citizens, not only come over, and begin singing, but singing it in English. Well, as I saw one after another, of these things I said to myself, look, no government in the world, can have these things happening, year after year, and month after month, and week after week, and then turn around the next day, and launch a war against the West. They'd have to spend a lot of time, re-propagandizing their own people. Now that I attended, a congress of International Congress of philosophy up in Montreal a few years ago, and I was supposed to present a paper, but time ran up, and none of the Soviet bloc people had yet presented a paper. So I yield to a Bulgarian Philosopher. And he did an amazing paper. He discussed the Catholic doctrine, of the Just War. Indicated that the Soviets had a Just War doctrine, which was wars of national liberation. And then he indicated, \"But we have now come to the conclusion,\" that is philosophers and the Eastern Bloc, \"We have now come to the conclusion, \"that you cannot use, \"nuclear weapons. \"And you cannot any longer have a war, \"of national liberation, \"in the conventional and nuclear sense.\" That was the conclusion that intellectuals came to, the intellectuals who bolstered the Gorbachev regime. Now, this was known by our intelligence agencies, it was known by many of us, in the academic community. Yes, I believe it. We see the fruits of it now. But there's more to it, than what I've just said, it's a much longer story.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, because before Gorbachev, do you think it was in existence in such a full force?\r\n\r\n- It was in existence but, the lid was held on. The reason we know it was in existence, that under Gorbachev's predecessor, a man named Brezhnev, who was author of the Brezhnev doctrine. Brezhnev's personal physician, a cardiologist, he had heart problems, talked to him, after he had talked to a Harvard professor, named Bernard... Lown, and Brezhnev gave permission, for the formation, of an international organization of positions against nuclear war. And also gave permission to bring Bernard Lown, and some other Americans, to speak over Soviet TV. And they spoke quite frankly, without manuscripts, that there's nobody who can win a nuclear war, there's no civil defense, that can protect you etc. Estimated 100 million listeners or viewers, that first speech. It was rebroadcast, I think a week or two weeks later, over nationwide TV. Yes, it began even before Brezhnev, even before. I could tell you that, back in the 40s, when I was in Washington as a lobbyist. I did the first research on the Military-Industrial Complex, before it was called that. And produced a series of book size pamphlets. And when I did them, I tried to get maximum publicity, I would get Albert Einstein, and other national leaders, to sign the statement released to the press. We got a front page publicity in the New York Times, Herald Tribune, Washington Post, and the first customer to come over to pick up books was the Pentagon. You know who the second one was? The Cultural Attache of the Soviet Union. And his first question to me was, \"How did you get permission, \"to publish these things?\" I explained to him how it happened. You know what happened then? About four years after that, Cultural Attache of the Soviet Union, came to my office, I was by that time back in New York, at the Fellowship of Reconciliation. He came the week before Christmas, we were having a Christmas party, in the office, and I had laryngitis. So he came to ask me how to get, an American delegation, to visit the Soviet Union, to talk about peace concerns. And because I whispered, he whispered, and everybody out there in the party, 'cause it was just a glass partition, thought there was something secret going on. Well, to make the long story short, the first delegation they invited were, Quakers. And he wanted me to pick the Quakers, who would be sympathetic to the Soviet Union. And I said, \"No! \"What you want is people who aren't sympathetic \"to the Soviet Union, \"so when they come back here, \"they'll be believed, \"if they report anything, \"that is worth reporting.\" And that's exactly what happened. Now that was in, I would guess, '48 or '49. So it's been a long process. And we've had to share it. But we haven't had the dominant share. Anybody else, I think you're weary aren't you, okay go ahead?\r\n\r\n- Have you about how many Navy Bases that we have?\r\n\r\n- How many bases?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. How many does the Soviet Union have around?\r\n\r\n- We have 300 major, and some were around 3,000... I think I may have said 4,000 but it's 4,000 US based multinational corporations. We have somewhere around 3,000 minor bases, or not so major around the world. The Soviet Union, I mentioned, the ones in Asia. They of course, have them within their own country. They have access to Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam, and they have access, to some marine facilities in Cuba. But not a major base there. They have access, and bases in... Well, it's inside the Indian Ocean in places like... I can't always think of the country's name, It's not Kuwait, but it's... Begins with an S, anybody help me out?\r\n\r\n- Somali?\r\n\r\n- No, they did have one in Somalia. But we have it now. Wasn't the mutual swap, but Somalia changed allegiance and it came from them to us. So we moved in on them. It's Yemen's, North and South Yemen. It's South Yemen. But they don't have many. They just don't have the, territorial access. Now, that doesn't mean that they don't have influence, in places like Mozambique, and in other spots around the world. But the Center for Defense Information in Washington, headed by two retired admirals, says that the Soviet Union, even a few years ago, could not claim the allegiance, of more than 19 countries. The United States, on the other hand, is allied with many, many times more than that. But I think we've got to stop thinking, in terms of, what they've got and what we've got. It's a mutual problem. And that's why I said that, if you wanna repent, you've gotta commit yourself. And your self is not committed to American nationalism, or imperialism, but to peace, and to the peace processes. Okay, I'll make a commercial oh, another one? Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- I was I can make a commercial for Bonino's coming liberation theologians, from Argentina, is going to be at Iowa State, next Monday evening to speak on, political ethics in the revolutionary situation, in Latin America.\r\n\r\n- I know him. He was the President of a Theological Seminary, in which I taught on sabbatical in Argentina, in 1969. And he thought I was a little more radical, than he wanted to be then, but he's changed. He's a tremendous scholar. He speaks a number of the ancient languages, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. But also I think he speaks Russian, and German, and Italian. I mean just a host of them. He's a tremendous scholar. I don't know that I've heard him speak, but I would imagine he's good. He's the leading Protestant theologian of liberation. I commend him to you. Now my commercial is simply to say, if you want to look at any of these books, you may. This one... out of print now, it's the only one that I have left. I think it's the only one. The American Empire, which is a demythologizing of American foreign policy, that's $2. This one Religious Liberty and the Secular State, which I was pleased to see it footnoted, in a recent Supreme Court decision. This is an 11.95 book, but I don't make anything on these, you can have it at my discount of 6, if your interested. This is the Politics of Liberation, 7.95 book, which I get a discount you, $5. This is the only, Catholic publication I have here, it's by Leonard Swidler, is that the way you pronounce it? Do you know... And it has to do with, blood witness for peace and unity, the martyrs of Catholic martyrs, and especially in Europe. And then this one on Liberation Ethics, which is also out of print. I don't know what this is, price wise 3.95 but let's mark it down to $2. And this one is $2. I have some free copies of a newsletter I do, about once a month. And that's the story. 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