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The people that are involved in development of international programs within the big eight schools, the delegation from Hubei province, Iowa sister state in China who have representatives here. And those of you at the, at Iowa state, both members of the faculty, the community, and the student body that share in the interest of development of international contacts at Iowa state. I wanna thank you for coming and I want to now turn to my great honor and privilege to introduce our speaker for today. Our speaker is a native of Indiana, she did her doctoral work at the university of Massachusetts, and has many years of experience working in development in Africa. You will have a chance to ask questions to the speaker after we have a respondents panel, which will immediately follow the prepared remarks by our speaker. I would be able to make an introduction of our speaker by spending the rest of the morning, but I'm going to mention a few highlights and things that you may be interested in knowing. Our speaker, in addition to having extensive experience with African development issues, has a couple of interesting things that I think you'll wanna know about. For one, I discovered that she is working on a novel, she's writing a novel about African women. She has had experience working in Africa for many years, and she told me all she needs is three months free, that doesn't seem to be on her horizon, but she has an interest in using the form of the novel to deal with the, with questions of development and those of us that are read development novels, we'll be looking forward to reading that novel, I hope that she'll get three months off to finish it. One of the most interesting aspects of her work is that I learned, she gave the commencement address at the university of Maryland at the commencement this spring, and was awarded an honorary Doctor of Laws from the University of Maryland. Our speaker will be addressing us on the topic of the role of U.S. Universities in human resource development in Africa, a topic that obviously is the reason why most of us have come into the room today. Her role with the U.S. agency for international development is that of chief of the education and human resources division of the Africa Bureau. I heard her mentioned yesterday that she believes that the work that she does in International education in the Africa Bureau is very important, but she did mention that it is only one part of the agency for international development and therefore it may, this reflects the division of the comments that she makes should be based on the work of her division and the experiences that she has had in working in Africa without any further redo on the topic of the role of U.S. Universities in human resource development in Africa, it's a pleasure to introduce our speaker today, Dr.Cynthia Shepard Perry, Dr. Perry.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much Martin for a very nice introduction, Dr. Christianson, I don't know if he's still here, Dr. Winston, members of the International Program Council of Missouri, Deans of Education, delegates from Hobart University, faculty and students, if that doesn't cover everybody else, I can just tell you how glad I am to be here today. There is so much to be said about the role of U.S Universities and African development, and if I tried to deal with all those this morning, it would be very tedious, I didn't think it would be of interest to everybody, although there are things that must be said to the deans and to the various delegates from the Universities on how to contract, to serve the purposes of AID and development of human resources for Africa, which must take place at another time. I would like to deal with this on a much more philosophical basis, I want you to sort of think and feel with me about the world and development. So if you will allow me that afterwards, I'll be glad to answer very specific kinds of questions. As Martin has said, I'm also by birth at Midwesterner coming from Terre Haute Indiana, more or less to the right of center I college and now I'm a Washingtonian, but by way of Texas, where I have spent a great many years , and I should say, I love Texas as all Texans do. Last week, I took my son to Lubbock, Texas, where he is now entering school, Texas Tech for his first year of college, and as we drove up northward through the panhandle, which has a great expanse of planes and Mesa scrub brush and beautiful blue skies and plenty of heat, I could have been in Tanzania or Zimbabwe, the terrain was very similar. And as I drove along, I started thinking about how we live in a global community welL we're talking about us, the planet earth, that's where we all live. And I want to speak about that all of us are now familiar, with that beautiful blue and white globe slowly spinning through space, which represents the reality of a rapidly shrinking expensive water and land mass, and an amalgamation of diverse peoples of all colors, languages, racist, and religious beliefs. And because of advanced technology, we know more about others in the world than we ever really wanted to know. Due to television, we are often find ourselves participant observers in guerrilla warfare in central America, in earthquakes and tidal waves in Japan, and we shrink, we catch ourselves shrinking from the fro, the flies that are crawling across the faces of starving children in Africa. That's more than we really want to witness, because once we made aware, we must now become a part of the solution. Now for us as adults, and I speak specifically to us Midwesterners, this perspective of human survival is an immense unprecedented task, which nonetheless is dawning upon mankind everywhere. But to do so, Pierce is the core of our earlier beliefs, our values and our institutions. But the latest newcomers to our planet earth, our children and grandchildren are born into a community so broad as to encompass the whole world and their imaginations allow them to be lifted above local concerns, to broader universal realities. And they are perhaps closer to solutions to world problems than we are as adults, for children, the existence of extraterrestrial beings is not only possible but probable, and ET, despite his bizarre physical appearance to a child has a soul very much like his own. Our world community is an environment which requires a present past and future, a knowledge of interdependency, a concern for human survival and less for territoriality. I attended fairly recently a seminar in Houston on the laws of outer space. And the guest lecture said in essence, that scientists are preparing to abandon this planet in search for another, which can be to sustain human life because many, irresponsible nations of the third world who already have nuclear knowledge will eventually blow up the youth, and that in an effort to preserve the vast knowledge and advances of mankind mechanisms much more advanced than the space shuttle are being devised to pluck the best minds from this earth before those people destroy us all. Now, this seminar provoked shades of the resurrection, the Armageddon, the seventh, Kevin, then the new earth as a black woman, I am a part of that explosive third world element and among the last and the least likely to be space lifted to escape the earth. I therefore have a vested interest as an educator and looking critically at our world community. And in particular, I'm sorry, and in participating fully in its development as a safe place for the newcomers to our planet, our children, the education and training they receive must enable them to benefit fully from man's acquired knowledge, skills, and art of living to enjoy happy and fulfilled lives. And to contribute in turn to the continuance that maintenance and further ascent of humanity in a well-preserved planet. H.G. Wells said in 1920, that human history becomes more and more, a race between education and catastrophe that hasn't changed very much. We have reached a point in human evolution when we must ask ourselves some very fundamental questions regarding the meaning of life and evolution itself, if we assume that all we have learned, all that is happening, all we are trying to do makes little sense in light of the impending disaster, then there is no hope and we might as well destroy ourselves and disappear. If on the contrary, we assume that some cosmic force are low, our God or creator, in the universe has put into human species certain objectives, functions, expectations, and aspirations, and destinations, then it is our duty to ascertain on a contemporary scale, what those objectives are, by giving us capacities, to see, to hear, to feel, to think, to dream, to touch and to invent the universe, gives us an indication of what is expected of us. It wants us to know, and to understand the maximum range possible of what the universe is all about. We are driven to know more and more of our global community and of creating, including the art of recreating cosmic forces through energy, matter and life itself. Humanity has become the manager of this planet, a cosmic agent, a very advanced phenomenon in the universe, we are made to feel the thrill and benefits of this task, of being alive, of being human, that is, we are a specially valuable advanced, sensitive force ourself, in which consciousness of the universe and of time constantly grows. If this is the case, or if we supposed to be so, then our next great evolutionary task is to ascertain what this divine pattern means and to prepare for it, the right institutions, people, values, guidelines, laws, philosophy, politics, morals, and ethics. Consider the existing state of knowledge, humanity has made incredible progress and knows enormously, astrophysicist tell us, how stars and planets are born and die, man knows the physics atmospheres and even skies of other planets. Thanks to human made satellites, we have a total view of our globe, of our atmosphere, of our seas and oceans and landmasses. We know our complicated climate through a new science called climatology. We know our polar caps, we possess for the first time a soil and land map for the entire planet, we know our mountains, our total water resources, our deserts, our Florida and fauna, and even the crust of the earth, man's knowledge reaches down into microbic genetic and cellular worlds, into the realm of the atom and its particles and sub particles. The Greeks and Pascoes genial view of the infinitely large and the infinitely small has been filled in by science and provides the framework for much of today's world cooperation in the daily lives of people. Then what I see firsthand in Africa, those hoards of pitiful, starving children dying from malnutrition or from measles, diptheria, smallpox diseases, which have been more less eradicated from the developed world, I questioned the purpose of this tremendous knowledge that we have, perhaps having decided to become like God through knowledge and in attempts to understand the heavens and the earth, man has also become master in deciding good and evil. Every invention of man as we know can be used for good and bad all along the Copernican scale, even in deciding whose children should and whose should not live. What is the role of Universities? Educators of this world have a marvelous opportunity to teach children and adults wherever they are in the world, a sense of participation and moral responsibility in the building and management of our community, the planet earth of becoming artisans of the will of God, and of a further humanist sent, a new world morality and moral ethics must evolve all along the above scale and educators if they know we'll be able to prepare responsible citizens, workers, scientists, geneticists positions, and scores of other professions, including a new one badly needed good world managers and caretakers for the planet earth. We estimate, that this planet is more than four and a half billion years old, and that our sun, a star of stabilized light hydrogen exclusions which sustains life on earth will remain in existence for another six to 8 billion years before it vanishes into the universe to become other stars and planets. If this is true and the human race is to be around for a while, it makes sense to preserve the natural elements in here I did from the past, which are necessary to life and survival, air, water, soils, energy, animals, forest, genetic materials, et cetera. It makes sense to build bridges of peace and harmony among all human groupings to share our views and perceptions, to diffuse explosiveness, and to prevent endangering the entire planet, to seek what each group has to contribute, to understand their legitimate concerns, cultures, values, common denominators and objectives, and to grasp the meaning of the vast and complex functions of life from the largest to the most minute from the total society to the individual, from human unity to an endless more refine diversity, we enter the global age within 156 nations, 5,000 languages, scores of religions. In 1951, we were 2.5 billion in world population, in slightly more than 30 years, we have become 4.5 billion, and by the year 2000, we will have become 6.1 billion, 90% of this increase will be in the developing countries of Africa, Asia, and Latin America, where the people are where the problem of education is most severe and the number of illiterates could climb to 950 million by the by millennium. Education is the means for accessing the abundance of knowledge that we just discussed, due to limited access to knowledge, many nations of Africa in particular, are unable to embrace vital technologies, Africa, hungers for knowledge and values learning primarily because education is still the means of upward mobility and increased income. But the social structures of many of these societies are filled with structural violence, that which manifests itself in conditions of injustice, economic exploitation, political oppression, which deprives its victims of jobs, food, health, education, political liberties, and human dignity. These are unpeaceful conditions, not war but conditions which lead to war in which the total world can suffer harm, physical, emotional, economic, and cultural, a variety of national multinational world organizations exist to treat such conditions, and the agency for international development, which I represent today, has a mandate to assist foreign governments in resolving development problems that is to provide technical assistance, equipment, commodities, consultants, teachers, food, transport, schools, medicine, and healthcare among other things, and I should say at this point, I forgot to say in the beginning that I bring you greetings from the administrator of the agency, Mr. MacPherson, and from the assistant administrator for African Bureau, who is newly named Mark Edelman, they would like to, for you to know that they have an interest in involving Universities in the solutions of these problems, I would bring you greetings from president Reagan as well, however, I understand he's coming to Iowa to bring his own. We are witnessing in the Africa Bureau a growing urgency within Africa, for developing the capacity of their own institutions, to identify and to resolve their own development problems. Not long ago, the number of universities in Sub-Saharan Africa could be counted on one hand. Today, there are over 500 post-secondary institutions, nearly 300 offering degrees, Nigeria alone has 23 degree granting institutions. The most recent open doors news release shows that growth in foreign student enrollment in the U.S has begun to slow down after more than a decade of rapid expansion, the total now stands at 338,894 in the United States, over 5,200 in Iowa alone. I didn't count the other Midwestern stakes, Nigeria has the third largest representation of over 20,000 students in the U.S which begs the question of the existing 23 universities in Nigeria and what needs to be done about those. There is an observable trend in request from assistance from African governments for increased in country and third country training, third country being in African or a third country being in the, in Asia or in Latin America. This calls for an institutional capacity building in an Africa for increased long-term technical assistance from American universities for commitments, from U.S faculty and scare skills areas of instruction for operational experts in planning, statistical analysis, and computer engineering to support the work of various ministries of those governments among other things. The agency for international development is turning more and more to U.S universities as repositories of specialized knowledge and information, which can be transferred to African institutions. There is of course, the joint resolution of aid and by fad, which declares that aid recognizes that U.S Universities are a special resource and it tends to make every effort to involve and utilize them fully and completely in accord with provisions of the title 12 amendment, these are as you know, land-grant Universities, both 1862s and 1890s, which are utilized primarily as resources for aids, worldwide food and agricultural program needs Iowa state's agriculture research project in Zambia is one example of this type of program. There is an increasing need, however, to involve non land grant Colleges and Universities, perhaps in joint arrangements with title twelves, as suppliers in areas, outside agriculture, for example, education, health, energy, et cetera, in the field of education aids assistance focuses on basic education, our primary education, I'm looking at the Deans over here, for example, to train and upgrade the skills and knowledge of various kinds of educational personnel involved in the formulation and application of policies that involves the training of educational planners, administrators, architects, teachers, teacher trainers, curriculum specialists, and management training is in demand throughout Africa in all of the development sectors. Well determination of national educational policies is the proper domain of governments, U.S universities through linkages with their African counterparts can provide a forum for exchange of experience and ideas with emphasis on formulation of appropriate and innovative educational policies and on their effective implementation. According to a recent study by the World Bank the lack of school books in Africa is the most pressing constraint to progress in the educational systems. Reading still represents the most important key to the world of knowledge we just discussed. But whole of civilization is based on books, on the passing on and spreading of knowledge by means of the printed word and thus on the ability to read, not only to learn to read, but to learn to read in order to learn. Literacy rates in Africa are extremely low, they have increased, however from 16% at independence over 20 years ago to 28% today, a very small increase. Primary enrollment rates are up from 36% to 63%, again, a very low increase. We need more writers from American Universities and from African institutions to develop texts and learning materials appropriate to the needs and the experiences of African learners. I don't wish to leave you with a simplistic impression of education development constraints in Africa, there are major constraints to increasing the effect in this of education and training, for example, policy issues and recurrent cost constraints, shortages of trained human resources, constraints of managerial capability and information support systems, to ignore these constraints in the planning of education will lead at best to only transitory improvements in the education training systems and at worst to a severe limitation on the future ability of the educational systems specifically, and upon governments generally to respond to emerging needs. The political environments of these nations makes it extremely difficult to deal with issues of constraints. Every government wishes to respond to the needs and wants of its people for a variety of social and economic programs, regardless of the cost, and often at the expensive quality and lasting improvements, For example, no nation wants to build an institution that will serve as a regional institution, every nation wants its own National University, and we are dealing with that one too and in terms of strengthening the national institution to serve regional needs, and here again, is a role for American Universities. The overall economic crisis is of course, a major constraint to development. Economist report that 25 years of independence has not led to an appreciable increase in the quality of life for most people in Africa. This average, there are, the average African according to these figures was only about 28% better off in 1984 than it was in 1960. There is a great deal of variation of course, by country, but on the average, excluding the four oil exporting countries per capita incomes increase by a mere 1% per year, seven countries actually experience negative per capita growth, and another nine were below the 1% figure. There is every indication that by the end of the decade, this decade, all economic progress made in most African countries since independence will have been totally eroded. And that real per capita incomes in 1990 will not be very different from what they were at independence in 1960. There are many reasons for this crisis and those reasons would fill another seminar, so I'm not going to try to talk about those this morning. But one point I must make is that Africa always shows great resilience, and there are opportunities for change and for growth, which require an educated and trained human resources base. Opportunities and challenges exist for U.S Universities to join hands with African institutions and with each other to develop linkages through faculty and student exchanges, to transfer vital education technology to Africa and to increase African ability to embrace the technology. AIDS focus on development in Africa is more and more concerned with a frack of Francophone nations where not only the French language is prerequisite, but also a high tolerance for desert conditions, the heat and the sand, also there is a need for Arabic and for Portuguese as we move more and more into those countries, and few universities accept this challenge. I would like to use as an example, an IFP that came out from Cameroon on teacher training, where we ourselves are building several teacher training college, colleges, and the world bank is building an additional seven teacher training colleges and such a great need for help from American Universities, there were only three responses to that IFP and only one was a university. So few universities are accepting challenges where there are language pre, requirements. There are varying funding mechanisms for increasing the role of U.S Universities and African human resources development, but a full discussion of this, will also fill another seminar, maybe I'll have to come back. Suffice it to say at this time, that U.S Universities, if they wish to establish a competitive posture for bidding for contracts and agreements must expand their campus wide capability in the geographic linguistic and subject matter areas where aid has indicated greatest need. For example, it would require internationalizing the existing curricular across campus, not only in agriculture, and introduction of new development oriented courses per academic department to professionally involve faculty and students in cross-cultural aspects of their disciplines. Universities must be willing to release faculty to provide technical assistance, not only to their own projects overseas, but to provide, to private voluntary organizations and foundations to peace corp to the United Nations and thereby gain valuable overseas experience, this would enhance the credibility of staff put forth as nominees for long-term assignments on aid projects, for which the university is bidding. This will require however, a revision of university tenure and promotion policies, which will provide credit for international service done on behalf of the university to enable the university to contract with aid, to provide technical assistance overseas. And apparently there is a problem for some universities in this, and the result is an assignment of expendable, our retired faculty, rather than that, of younger, more creative and energetic faculty members who tend to return this investment to the university. I will be addressing this subject hopefully later, more fully with the Deans and with other persons in the schools of education. My purpose this morning is to speak in a very broad sense to the immense contribution, education can bring to a better understanding than teaching of the human family and especially to Africans, to assist in developing a great, a more proper population policy, which also respects the right of the unborn, which promotes the equality of races and sexes, which enhances the meaning of childhood, youth, the family, adulthood and old age, peace, justice, reference for life, our help to the poor, the downtrodden and the handicap, to promote the oneness of God and the oneness of mankind. Education is a pattern invaluable trend of Cardinal importance to human survival and future ambitions. Education is basically the teaching of the miracle of life, the art of living and of becoming more fully human within our immense knowledge of space and time. It is to make each person to feel like a King or queen in the universe, and expanded being standardized by the vastness of man's knowledge from the infinitely large and the infinitely small and from the distance past to the, to the distance future, it is to make each human being feel good to be a member of a transformed species whose eyesight, hearing, hands, legs, and brain have been multiplied a thousand by microscopes radio, laser beams, computers, the objective should, be to make us exude a resplendent joy of living of bearing witness to the beauty and majesty of creation and of our own capacities, knowledge, peace, happiness, goodness, and fully conscious, meaningful, responsible lives. These must be the objectives of education for our children. This concept of peace may seem utopian today because we find ourselves involved in a wide variety of unpeaceful relationships, some of which we've constructed ourselves, the issues may be race, sex, class, deprivation, apartheid, the Palestinian question are the nuclear arms race. Some issues are local others international, but not one of them exists in isolation. Whenever we contribute to the peacefulness or the unpeacefulness of a single relationship, the ripples spread much further than we realize. In conclusion to each of, I knew I speak, and I've been talking about education of the children and our responsibilities to the next generation, and I know that you as individuals cannot become a child again, but no matter you yourself are a miraculous individual on this planet earth, unique in every essential manner and this epilogue I would like to leave with you all. Decide to be happy, render others happy, proclaim your joy, love passionately your miraculous life, don't listen to promise, don't wait for a better world. Be grateful for every moment of life, switch on and keep on those positive buttons in yourself, those mark optimism, serenity, confidence, positive thinking, and love. Pray, and thank God every day, meditate, smile, laugh, whistle, sing dance, look with fascination and everything. Fill your hearts and lungs with liberty, be yourself fully and immensely, act like a King or queen until death, feel God in your body, mind, heart, soul, and be convinced of eternal life and resurrection. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, Dr.Perry, for those thought-provoking comments, before we invite the members or the audience to join in questions, I'd like to ask the members of the respondents panel to join us at the front table. They are, the chairman of the respondent panel is Dr. Hill Crawford, the assistant dean in the College of Agriculture and Professor of Agricultural Education here among as many distinctions as he was my major professor so you know why he was selected as a chairman. The second respondent is Dean Dale Scannell, the Dean of the School of Education at the University of Kansas, Dean Scannell, and the Director of the Office of International Programs at Oklahoma State University, Mr. William Abbott. And if you gentlemen will please join us at the front of the room, I'll turn the control of the response panel to Dr. Crawford.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, Martin, you've passed your orals and you need not worry about following through with your major Professor. Dr. Perry, you have honored us and you favored us by being in our presence this morning to present a very challenging thought-provoking message. I couldn't help but think as I heard her speak, the written word is just great to carry on for posterity, but to really bring it alive, the speaker does it. I had, I was privy to her remarks to read them last night and again this morning, and then to follow as she was presenting them. And I must say to you, you added a great dimension to the spoken, to the written word through your spoken word, we you panelists have not met one another prior to today and so we really don't know how each other would react, so we gonna be safe and do it individually and respond that way I think my role as chairperson is to, if I may, Martin introduced Dr. Perry to say what she would talk about, she talked to us, without embarrassing her or repeating too much, I would like to just highlight because it was a thought-provoking message, and it went by rather rapidly. She introduced, she had five parts to her remarks I felt, she introduced her a message by sharing with us, her concern, if you will, for the next generation, yes, she's concerned about the present, but really the children are the future, the newcomer, she calls them. She says, there's a preciousness if you will, about the challenges for education in Africa, she's also indicates to us that there's a vastness, that it's difficult, it is a challenge and what can we do? She says humanity is the manager and humanity has made stri, made great strides yet in Africa, lots more to be done, and there is knowledge that is not being used to some great extent. When she goes to the area of our second part of our presentation on the role of the university, she shares with us some very challenging things that she heard from a conference in the space age. I don't want to believe those remarks, incidentally, I, okay, but she does say that we have an opportunity, we have the responsibility ladies and gentlemen to teach and to repair and assist in developing and educating the youth of Africa or the people of Africa. Yes she presents some things that are not so good to hear the population boom, the hunger that people hunger for knowledge in Africa, and then also she mentioned the structural violence that you and I had so well know. She shares with us that as a representative of aid, she recognizes that their challenge is to assist in the further development, in Africa, and that is the role and she's challenging us as Universities, as Professors, graduate students, Deans, and so forth to join in hand with aid in helping to meet this challenge. I thought her remarks in regard to the increased growth of African institutions, and she specifically mentioned Nigeria, 23 institutions, yep, we know that there are many students from Nigeria that are in the United States studying and she says they need some help also in developing those institutions, she impressed upon me, I hopefully you, that Universities in this country are special places, knowledge, and we need to share that. Yes, I, you know, even to the lowest, maybe not the lowest level, but we see it all over the world the lack of references and resource materials that teachers can use. We're much more interested in going and giving a spoken word and blow in and blow off and blow out again, but will we come back to our desk and really prepare instructional materials, this seems to me is a challenge in education to assist that. She listed three major constraints that are tough to tackle those policy issues, the shortage of human resources and the managerial capacity. And of course she mentioned the political environment and economic crisis, later in her presentation, she comes back to the role of the universities and it becomes some, gives us some specifics, she says that there's especially interested in Francophone countries, I later on, I would like to ask you to express why. She talks about various funding mechanisms to bring about these things, and she tells us the universities that there are some things we can do, she says here in the campus, on the campuses of this country, we need you do expand our capacity and our capability to do work and to concern, be concerned about language and technical skills development for working in international environment. Even she even accents says we should change our curriculum, and release our faculty and change our tenure and promotion policies, that's hard for some of us to accept, of course, you know. And she closes off her a message with re coming back, with really a pitting to us, on a challenges to remind us of the contribution that education can do. I just thought, as I sat there, that's almost Sunday morning to me, the challenge for humanity to help us further do what we can for the family, for population policy to contribute to peace and understanding which you enhance education and enhanced the development of the world. Lastly, I thought she said, and I believe she said, ladies and gentlemen in education, the challenge is ours, we in aid, we'd like to have you join with us in meeting this challenge. This time I'm going to turn to Dr. Scannell he's the closest to bring remarks concerning Dr. Perry's presentation.\r\n\r\n- Thank you I, I feel somewhat intimidated by the assignment with all the challenges you presented for us to consider Dr. Perry and because of my own lack of knowledge, firsthand knowledge, about education in Africa. I was reminded when you started your comments by identifying your home is Indiana and it's referenced to the center of the country, most of you probably know that Kansas is the geographic center of the United States. Some of our friends in places like Iowa however, take advantage of that by referring to Kansas as the dead center of the it's interesting that you should bring to those of us from schools and colleges of education a challenge to participate in the education and the improvement of the human condition in the African communities. At this particular time, it was just a week ago that the ABC television network ran a three hour special on the problems of education in the United States. Evidently we have not been overwhelmingly successful and in meeting all of the challenges we have right here at home and now you bring to us some challenges from afar. You said you wanted to talk about this from a philosophical point of view and my response to your challenge there is that it seems to me that there's no question philosophically about the responsibility that higher education, including colleges of education have to help improve the human condition in the entire world. I believe that's an intrinsic part of our responsibilities and I think a lot of us are in higher education because we were interested in working to improve the human condition. You stressed at one point, the problem that your agency has in obtaining technical experts from institutions in the United States, and you referred specifically to the tendency of institutions to send you those people who could be, who were expendable, I think was the term that you used, the retired and those who are otherwise expendable. 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36677/file/105842/transcript/22946/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Participated in Aid type activities would use those opportunities not only to provide service, but also to develop their own program of scholarship. We certainly could learn from cross-cultural research and if our faculty would regard their assignments in other countries as an opportunity to develop their own program of scholarship, as well as to teach, then perhaps we could in a way sidestep the problem that currently exists. At the university of Kansas, we've been involved in a program with a country that is a evolving its higher education system. And I suppose one way of describing our role was to help them build their capacity to continue their own educational system. And we did this in cooperation with Oklahoma State University by the way. We did this through faculty members, spending time on those campuses. Some of the people who took work from us at the first graduate level eventually came to the United States to finish doctorates. But our role was to help them to develop their institutions by impacting as many faculty as possible, whether that same kind of model is appropriate in Africa, I don't know, but I know that it does reduce the cost of educating a large number of people. As I listened to you, I thought that many of the problems you referred to could best be met through a consortium approach. And I think that MASWA perhaps is one of those organizations that might be a focal point for bringing together resources from a variety of institutions that could be applied to the problems that you've described for us. As I listened to you, I was also struck by the fact that the challenge in the African nations, as you described is really a multifaceted problem. There are a number of issues that have to be addressed at the same time. There is the problem of the education of the adults who have not had an opportunity during their childhood and adolescence to be educated in all the knowledge that we have created. There is the problem of developing institutions that will help to sustain any efforts that go on in the short term. And there is a problem, an immediate problem of trying to eliminate a repetition of the problem we have now. When I'm thinking about is there is a challenge to educate the young so that they can assume roles as responsible adults. And so you have a problem that has to be addressed. It seems to me in a number ways and many problems to be addressed all at one time. Perhaps what I've done is to point out what I see as a number of difficulties in drawing on US institutions to address these problems. But I would say that I think we have a history in some US institutions of success in helping developing nations. And I would be encouraged by the success that we have had in our limited way in working with some of the problems. I think the problems you described are far more massive than some of the problems that we've been involved in, but I would still be encouraged by the success that we have had. I want to thank you for sharing with us, the views that you brought and to remind us, all of us, that we have a responsibility in improving the human condition. Not only with the people who are physically present in our classrooms on our own campuses, but in a more global sense. I enjoyed your comments and thank you for the opportunity to respond.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, Dr.Phinel We turn now to Dr. Wayne who is the director of international programs at the Oklahoma State University.\r\n\r\n- I have also been asked to react and my reaction is very positive to Dr. Perry's very positive approach. The title of her paper should be carefully noted, particularly the last three words, human resources development. If there is a higher priority in our work with the third world, I'm afraid that I would have trouble identifying it. Now with the reaction out of the way, I may be accused of just making my own talk at this point. Universities interest in Aid, and other sponsors of third world projects, is in technical assistance. And I give you that technical assistance and education are essentially synonymous. One concern then, I think that education contracts should be with educational institutions. I think they should not be with commercial concerns established for profit. I don't think they should be with industrial organizations concerned primarily with manufacturing and with profit. And I think they should not be with the so-called Beltway Bandits. Invariably, when one of these organizations gets an Aid contract or with another donor agency, they immediately turn to the universities and say, \"Hey, we would like to borrow your faculty for X number of months, years.\" What have you. I think the history, if it would be examined that such organizations have, where their primary purpose may be to sell equipment and the educational aspect is secondary. I think that the educational aspect lacks and I think it is dropped flat when the project itself ends. I propose that technical assistance projects needs three dimensions, they need breadth, depth and length. And the length is the one it seems to so often be missing. When we talk about learning another language, a faculty member says, \"Sure, I'll learn French. \"When are you going to send me on a project? \"Where are you going to send me? And how long am I going to be there?\" Well, we don't know. It's somewhere out there in the far distance. The universities know that they can deliver, we're doing it today. We've done it in the past. Problem is the volume is inadequate. It just too many countries out there in the third world category out of those 156 or so that have been noted. On occasion it's noted, well, we need to get this on track. Well, if it's technical assistance and it's education, I give you that the truck runs to and through the educational institutions. My particular university is in its 34th year of technical assistance in working with one of those third world African nations. The US government provided most of the first 16 years of financing for this project. Since then, there has been nothing from the US government. And surprisingly, we have support from some European governments with funds flowing to my university for this from foundations in some degree from some university funds that can be diverted in that area. And currently from the government of that African nation, which is a new development and promising development. Last week, I had an opportunity to review with a 1959 graduate of the college of agriculture in this African nation with whom we worked. And he had all Oklahoma State professors. So in essence, his degree, undergraduate degree was from Oklahoma State. He incidentally is on sabbatical from the Ethiopian Ministry of Agriculture and he chose to take up sabbatical in the United States. We got out a list of all of the graduates of the college of agriculture and of a secondary agricultural institution in that 16 year period that I referred to and identified where each of these were. It's interesting that 90% of those are employed in Ethiopia. A number of them found it necessary to leave Ethiopia, but 90% are employed there, or some of them are employed by the World Bank, UNDP, international agencies on that type of assignment. When you made reference to the RFP Dr. Perry there in Francophone Africa, I would say here that if this provides breadth, depth and length, don't risk offering it to Master YPC cause you might get a taker. On another subject, the release of faculty, I don't know what other institutions have done maybe this is a problem, but we have released faculty to work with Ford, USDA, Aid, World Bank, other universities and we continue to do this. We really feel that probably these should be institution to institution agreements for the faculty actually remain as a part of their home institution. And we do a good deal of this within MASWA where faculty members do go abroad. And we've also done this with some of the donor agencies. On one final item, and that is a reference to the need for experience, getting experience becomes a problem. One of the few people I know of who perhaps had this ideal experience that donor agencies always insist on for personnel. And if I can be a little facetious, usually the request is we want a man 40 years old, he should have at least 30 years of international experience most of it overseas. We would prefer all of his children be through high school or college and wouldn't be wanting to tag along with him, holding him back. One instance I know of, where we had an had an ideal situation. When we started work in Africa in '52, one of the professors that went on the first assignment, went off and left student with his degree unfinished, in Oklahoma. The student's father happened to be a chief of party. So in about a year, while this young man went over and he took his last course under his major professor, and in essence got his degree there in Africa. He in the course of this met, he was the only 22 year old American there. And there was one 22 year old American girl that he met. And somehow they happened to get together and eventually were married. And with this tremendous background, he took a short tour with Aid and later went on to a university. He has been chief of party on university projects in Asia, he's presently a chief of party on his second or third project in Asia also now. He had the ideal experience. So yes, he got it, but let's look at what his father faced. I mentioned who was the chief of party taking the first group to Ethiopia. In 16 years, we had 185 faculty and staff in Ethiopia. The total experience among those internationally was that prior to the project, the chief of party had one year in Paris, which really prepared him well, going to Africa. I would propose that instead of being this concerned about the international experience, that the responsibility be put on the university to make the project a success. And if they cannot perform that answers your question. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much Dr. Wayne I noticed Dr. Perry taking a few notes that she may want to respond to. So before we turn to the audience, I think we'd like to invite you to respond if you'd like, or would you rather take questions from the audience?\r\n\r\n- Well, maybe just a couple of them.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- I think what I'm hearing is that there are a number of opportunities still within Aid that have not been explored by the universities. I would agree that, and let me go back to this, cause I did say expendable faculty, and I must say that some of our most successful projects have been monitored by retired faculty, especially agricultural faculty. And they're doing a great job. The question I was raising was the impact of faculty in the field who are retired, who return nothing to the institution from that experience. And that's what the institution has to be aware of the type of investment and returns on that investment. And you're right about the Beltway Bandits. we call them the Beltway Bandits because they are all situated around the beltway around Washington DC. And whenever an IFP comes out, they rush in with their proposals and they are not educational institutions generally, but they are good at pulling together the kinds of resources that are needed out there to carry out these projects. And I would agree that universities ought to be the first, but universities don't respond as quickly as the Beltway Bandits. And they also have a higher overhead in many cases than the Beltway Bandits. And they also steal resources from the universities in order to make this happen. And there have been some, not all, but some negative experiences with universities in the sense of managing the accountancy of monies and the processing of papers and so forth in a timely manner which the Beltway Bandits have learned to do very well. For that reason, we are encouraging linkages between the universities and those Beltway Bandits. I can understand. I mean, as an educator, I also agree that educational projects ought to be run by universities and they ought to be on long-term scopes. Even though we have limitation for contracts now at five years. We are giving contracts to 10 to 15 years, which are renegotiate we'll at the end of every five years, because we do realize that that is a problem. But one additional thing is that there are research grants available for faculty involved in development, and that faculty members can request these research funds what it actually means is that the universities have to be willing to let their graduate students to leave their faculties, go out and do the research. And that that also adds to their professionalism and their professional requirements as faculty members. And we haven't had enough of that. I think the universities do hold on for the younger staff and make them prove themselves before they can then take a sabbatical or take leave to go out and do development. So at some point we need to discuss the other opportunities that are available, which would help you to deploy your staff and also to give us the kind of supports and strengths that we need out in the field.\r\n\r\n- You may want to stay right there.\r\n\r\n- All right.\r\n\r\n- The idea of this was to provide you an opportunity to interact with Dr. Perry. So you may have questions that you'd like to ask if you don't, I presume the panel here, will occupy the time with some questions, but we'd like to provide you the opportunity we'd like to ask you to make your questions very direct so that we can make sure as many people as possible ask questions during the interaction. Okay. Dr. Baron\r\n\r\n- Dr. Perry I'd like to ask a question that means a lot to me. England and India and part of Africa and the United States and the Philippines acted upon what has commonly been called the Manifest destiny an idea which I think you're hear in that crippling phrase the call to uplift and civilize people. Or in other words, to make them like us if the current attempt in development different than the imperialistic motives of those countries which have alluded to in the late part of the last century and early part of this century. As one who's worked in development, I often ask myself that question Is this a new kind of imperialism? I'd like you to respond.\r\n\r\n- I very often asked myself that question and really can't speak for the intent of nations. I can only speak as a professional and every time that I go out speak to professionals in terms of what they themselves must bring to the situation, there are political realities in dealing with these nations, and I'm not going to try to deal with that, especially when I'm being taped. However, cultural imperialism is a reality and we carry every time that we go to a developing nation, this cultural baggage is hard to shed, but I think the greater experience that we have with the developing world, we do realize that not everything that has worked for us is going to work there. And we find this very true of the land-grant concept for example, of trying to establish land-grant colleges in Africa. There are many reasons why it is not working as it is. It has to be modified to meet their needs. So the whole aspect of extension and why it doesn't work is related to having a base that is not properly educated to receive the technology and we have to deal with it from that end. I'm agreeing with you, that is a problem. And probably not one that will be settled by nations and will not be settled politically. Cause I'm talking to you about development assistance that is dictated in a very real sense by political realities between our country and other nations. It's only at the professional level that we might be able to change that. I don't know if I answered you. I share the same concerns.\r\n\r\n- I really appreciate your comments and I support everything you said. I wanna share with you one success story. I think as university people, we don't talk about our success. Kansas State had a program in Nigeria for 13 years. We had several staff helping to build an agricultural veterinary college. As you were talking, it made reference to us using faculty that were retired. I just added up here the names of people that are on our faculty today, who had experienced there and I could recall 32. Of those, three people had previous international experience. And because of this long-term commitment, we involved about 70 to 80 people, but we still have 32 who haven't retired and who are still there. And I think that's a real success story. And because of Aids financing this, Kansas State is better and more effective. I think in serving the needs of our own student population because of international experience. And that group three, we are currently in Botswana.\r\n\r\n- Good.\r\n\r\n- One is Tunisia, one's in Trinidad and the other one, I don't know where he is, he's somewhere.\r\n\r\n- That is a success story. And I need to speak to that because I think that back in the sixties and the early seventies, Aid was investing a great deal of money in Nigeria and land-grant colleges specifically were in there. Lots of people technical assistance was being provided. And since that time, because of the oil revenues, we have ended our support to the institutions there although we are going to have to come back to that again. But when you talk to universities, usually that's what they say. We were Nigeria. We were in Sierra Leone. We were in Ghana. And that experience did not carry over to other developing nations where we're trying to do now is to pull from those pools of experienced people in the Southern Africa, for example, into Zimbabwe and Zambia and Botswana and Lesotho. And as I said, to a group yesterday, we're also involved in South Africa in bringing education to disadvantage black students and are trying to gain, to pull from the experience gained in Nigeria. And somehow that experience doesn't transfer. There are very few people, very few professionals who have moved on from Nigeria to other parts of the world. So we're encouraging that.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Dr. Wayne will ask\r\n\r\n- I also enjoyed very much. It seems to me to mention the number of universities in global appetite to be so alive, to be having an impact, it would be very difficult, even with a great wealth, and source of happiness it not be a wise policy that you mentioned perhaps identify those national university that we could really work as a core university, and then share our resources what those institutions, the impact that those institutions take within leadership role to work with the other universities after that point.\r\n\r\n- That's a very good question, because that's a point that is being debated right now in Aid. And we're calling it a university building concept. In our office, we are suggesting that those institutions be agricultural education institutions, which would still be the major institutions in Africa. We don't know how many will be selected as a matter of fact, that question is being debated while Dr. McGreen and I are here. When we get back, we may be told which ones they are, although we have given our input. But the idea would be to select maybe five to 10 universities across the continent to provide the level of long-term and high level assistance that would prepare them to deal with students from various parts of Africa, which many of them have always done, but have not done to the degree we would like to see it done. And if that should happen, I'm sure that there'll be information circulated to the Title 12 institutions in particular for making bids on this or for developing consortia, that can deal with the problem.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Other questions? Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- I was particularly interested in your comment that suggests to me that Aid is reaching out beyond the agricultural schools in technology as well. In that context, I must have missed something about your discussion of the Beltway Bandits because it seems to me that I heard you say, that they come in with a law overhead that may be tough to incompete but they come in with their costs. The cost of delivering those services are pretty standard And I'm, sure that if we produce quality equality that the universities are not going to be any more expensive than some private operator typically we are experiencing that we are less expensive because at least the sector of the public institutions, most of the great deal of what anybody else would need to charge as a delayed costs, is somehow assault. So I'm just wondering whether possibly when those Beltway people come in, they include the full costing of the university service that they packaged into their operations And then they indeed charge us the tax payoff for the genuine overhead, which is some kind of a little token that they put away, their pockets in order to keep the Beltway operating. So I'm just wondering because it would have some very severe implications for universities to be able to do anything even if the impression is in Washington that universities are more expensive than private operators.\r\n\r\n- No, there are more than the budgetary implications for that when the Title 12 amendment was made to the Foreign Assistance Act, it became a set aside for land-grant colleges, which made it very easy for us to use them. Now you have competing forces. For example, the minority firms under the AIDA set asides are in that Beltway Bandit group. And they are not educational institutions they are procures of services and it's very immediate, more immediate than universities are prepared to respond to, but they are hooking themselves, aligning themselves to universities. There is also now a White House initiative on the use of black colleges. And those also are competing with the Title 12 institutions. Although there is not a set aside for the black colleges. Now there's the Gray Amendment and the Gray Amendment I don't know if you know about it brings together all the minority firms, the AIDA's and not only the a AIDA's, but just minority, the women owned and directed firms and the black colleges. And all of those now are competing. What is happening, and the land-grant colleges will be getting some guidelines on this, is to ask the 1862s to align themselves with the 1890s, the land-grant colleges in joint memorandum of understanding, and that's already happening. So if none of you have done this, it's time to reach out now and to go forward with a proposal to Aid to fund this kind of thing. So it's not, and I'm sorry that I put so much emphasis on the budgetary part of it, the overhead costs and so forth. What is happening now, this is from my own perspective, is that we're beginning to utilize the universities more for training our participants and less for the management of projects overseas. And you might argue with Aid about that, but we are increasing the number of participants. There will be larger numbers coming from Africa, probably than any other part of the world. When I say that students here, that means US finance students, and usually at the graduate levels only now excepting countries where there may not be a national university, but may still bring them at the undergraduate level, but almost everybody will be coming at Masters and Doctorate levels or on short term technical types of training. And that's what we're looking primarily to universities for now because of the competing forces.\r\n\r\n- That prompts a question that I may ask, I'm talking about education human sources. And you mentioned in your speech assistance through primary and secondary school, we do not have to have such a high degree of specificity as far as our advanced education is concerned. The doctor to work with people in international development, as far as I'm concerned, but yet in most of our proposals, We always want someone with a PhD. I feel in our field, African education, we could use some very effective secondary teachers that I've had good international experience, but do not have a doctorate. And if you give them consideration to adjusting those requirements.\r\n\r\n- We're now talking about a much more sophisticated Africa than we were dealing with at the beginning, where there were few high level trained personnel. Now Africa itself is saying, \"Don't send us people without the appropriate credentials.\" So we are very careful. The other thing is when we say that we're dealing with basic education, we're really not talking about teaching children per say. That's what the African teachers will do. We are at a higher level of teaching teacher trainers of preparing educational planners of working in manpower development, manpower analysis. So it is a very high level specification they're asking for from university people. But now the long-term supportive element in basic education has to come through universities. There is just no doubt of it. Right now we have a huge agreement with a consortia Florida state to see Florida state, New York, SUNY, Yeah, SUNY at Albany, Howard University and a private firm Institute for International Research is a huge grant. It's starting with 20 million for five-year period, adding to it another 20 to 30 million for dealing with basic education problems in Africa. That was competed. There was an IFP that came out on that. There may have been a response from a MASWA who they are in a sense cornering the market on basic education. But what they're doing is to going to those countries and taking technical assistance and building up the resources within that country to deal with their educational problems. And I think this is what we're talking about, we're not really talking about small projects going out and working with one country or working with one element of the educational system, but working with the totality, working through an existing institution in Africa.\r\n\r\n- My plead was that just because one poses a PhD, it's not definitely a direct indicator that they can teach others to teach.\r\n\r\n- Absolutely.\r\n\r\n- Okay, there is a question at the back.\r\n\r\n- I'm just happy that I have the opportunity to hear this speech today\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- I'm here representing Nigeria but I'm happy that Nigeria is mentioned the institutions. The progress that it's been making. It's been difficult for Nigerian educationist to come out, you know it takes time. in those institutions. There are thousands of technicians living in Nigeria who still go there for the job. The country is not ready to give support, do not have money to send them overseas so I do hope that the Aid will continue the Aid that it has been giving to Nigeria\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I have caught the eye of three persons we're going to take their questions. The first one is Phil Baird.\r\n\r\n- My name is Phil Baird, I'm from the board of student reservation I come from group of people that their livelihood in developing countries. one of the things that we've done on development is reservations in the country here, has been establishment and development of in colleges providing education opportunities educational training to improve programs. I've been involved with that the last five years while we've enjoyed quit a little bit of success I think achieved from landmark historical education, when I crossed blue right now. And part of the problem is that we provide educational opportunities while there here has been a lack of social economic growth on reservation. So we're having right now is producing graduates who have very few opportunities to remain on the reservation and to build in those areas that are in critical need. As you mentioned the preservation life, certainly in terms of education, knowledge for regular education is important, but our mission and our philosophy of chop in colleges and try to enlighten people on how to enroll in reservation. And the fact that there's a lack of economic growth social economic growth and probably lack of resources instability of government. What have you. The fact remains that we're producing graduates who have a lacked opportunity to assume positions and roles on the reservation. I was wondering in terms of your observations about educational activities in Nigeria and other counties, if you have seen these problems, this situation, we're kinda trying to figure out strategies in terms of how we keep our people on reservation you mentioned the number of Nigerians students who are leaving the country, I guess now, in terms of reservations, we have people even leaving reservation and finding more opportunities between reservations they stay away. And so my question to you, is if you've observed any similar conditions, situation and the possibility perspective strategy to approach them.\r\n\r\n- I think you're talking about the same kind of problem as the young lady from Nigeria. we just held an agricultural education conference in Yaounde Cameron where some of these same problems were addressed with the focus upon the farm family and educating them. And then how do you keep them on the farm? That problem has certainly never been answered in this country. There aren't enough positions on the farm to employ all the people. And I think that would be the same for reservations, but the idea is to look outside of the area to see what needs there are. Now I know in our government programs, there are many opportunities for American Indians. We just don't have that population represented. If you're interested in doing that, or if you have people who were interested in coming in as development officers, it would be good. I think that people, the black minorities, for example, in United States, the more black people who get involved in development issues in Africa, the more they have to bring back to develop the urban and the rural areas in the United States. We have found that the black leaders who are the most effective in this country are people who've had that external experience. I would recommend, you know, to your friends, those that you know are looking for other opportunities to look for those in the federal government, because they are there.\r\n\r\n- How do you enhance social economic growth to keep up with the educational growth\r\n\r\n- That is--\r\n\r\n- These are positions that don't exist there. You gotta be evaluated what you're doing and where the focus of your educational activities. Areas that can be provided by the opportunities.\r\n\r\n- That is a problem that we're facing in all of Africa. And when we do our men power studies, it's one of the things that we look very closely at in terms of how to develop the economic conditions within that area, you know, to produce employment. And it's not easy to do. Although one of the things that we're doing is to develop the private voluntary organizations and to help them to pull in because they can receive other kinds of supports from their own governments and from ours to produce employment. But it's one I can't answer in terms of industrialization levels that would produce jobs in local areas.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- We were trying to keep people from moving further into the cities and thus far we haven't succeeded.\r\n\r\n- Sorry to interrupt the next question is from Dr. Lawerence\r\n\r\n- I enjoyed very much during my career. This is a friendly question, but one seeking information.\r\n\r\n- That scares me.\r\n\r\n- What roles in your judgment can and should a university play in deciding or designing the RFP to be in a more proactive response mode rather than to react to really needs that maybe very property identified, but maybe not completely identified by the Aid. There are many persons within the universities who are themselves cognizant of, aware of, knowledgeable about life in Africa and middle East, and other parts of the world who see perhaps a possibility of some very particular needs can be met. And here's the resource it seems to me that it can be available. I guess I'm saying again, what can and should the role of the universities be in designing RFPs.\r\n\r\n- You know, that's a question that has been raised, I think by Fed and Title II boards, the strengthening grants are supposed to be utilized for that purpose that you have entree to countries because of being a Title 12. And that one of the reasons why maybe this doesn't result in becoming involved in designing projects is partially a failure of the university to involve itself with host governments, that when teams come out, for example, from the universities on the strengthening grant, travel funds, they go to the missions for example, and they talk to, I'm talking about Aid missions, or they go to the embassies and they talk about the role of the universities, but very seldom get involved with the African governments. At this point, any contract that we give the African government determines we form a team with them to determine who gets the contract and they will make visits to various universities who have sent in proposals to make sure that that's the university they want to do it. Those that fail in this process are ones who've not ever involved themselves. The Title 12 amendment does not force our missions to use the universities in developing projects. So it's going to take some aggressiveness on the parts of the universities to keep linkages with Washington for example. With my office, with the Bureau for science and technology, who also carry out a number of projects in Africa to find out what is coming up, are you getting ready to send out a team for agricultural education development.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36677/file/105842#t=0.0,2803.584"}]}]}]}