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for the Iowa State University Special Collections and University Archives, Department of Mathematics Oral History Project. Today is June 10th, 2021. I'm interviewing Professor James Cornette. Welcome Jim.\r\n\r\n- Good day.\r\n\r\n- All right, so let's go back a ways and talk about kind of your early life. So, tell me where you were born and something about the place you grew up.\r\n\r\n- Oh, well, I was born in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Lived there for nine years, and my major memories are fishing with my father there. I went to Waco, Texas, where my father was in fact dean of Baylor University. He stayed there for a while. He had been recruited by a former governor of the State of Texas, Pat Neff, and Pat Neff announced his retirement, and my father thought, well, a new person would probably want his own dean. So he looked for and got a job at West Texas State College as president where he was president until 1973, I think. That was in Canyon, Texas. I went there in I think January the 1st, 1948, oh, at West Texas. I immediately thought I was a cowboy, and I took four years of agriculture in high school. I worked on farms in the summertime until about 1952, and we had a drought and there weren't any jobs any place. Anyway, in 1952, I entered West Texas State College, where my father was president, and I studied there.\r\n\r\n- What was it like having a father as an administrator?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'll tell you what, in high school, the football coach asked me, he was just new and I was new, he asked me what my father did. \"Oh, he works out at the university.\" \"What does he do out there?\" \"Well, he's president.\" So I tried to separate myself as much as possible from him. And he was conscious of it and it worked out quite well. And I studied mathematics there.\r\n\r\n- Why math?\r\n\r\n- That was sort of the thing I first thought of, I guess. I was okay in mathematics and so I studied mathematics. We didn't have very many instructors at West Texas State College who had PhD training. It was 1952, seven years after the war ended, and it was difficult to get faculty. Some of the students were ex GI's on the GI bill and they were very interested in getting on with it. They were good people to have around. I just studied mathematics because that was the default subject, I think. I took a chemistry course. It was a good chemistry course. I took two courses in physics, but they were taught by a person who had too many students to try to teach, too many classes to teach anyway. And I just stayed there three years. I went next to the University of Texas, and actually, I went there the summer before, the summer of 1955 and just as a trial. I hadn't graduated yet. And I took a Foundations of Geometry course with an extraordinarily outstanding professor, Robert L. Moore. He was president of the Mathematical Society, a member of the National Academy of Sciences, and he was known for the Moore method of teaching. I'll elaborate that in a little bit. And I took a physics course. It was Heat and Thermodynamics, junior level course. Both of these were junior level courses. The Moore's course, he walked in the first day, axioms, two theorems, see whether you can prove them. He came in the next day and asked, oh, he had a list of names in the class, and started down that list and asked, \"Do you have a proof of theorem one?\" Well, it took two or three before he found someone who had a proof of theorem. Well, see if you can prove theorem one on the board. Well, Dr. Moore talked him out of it.\r\n\r\n- Why?\r\n\r\n- 'Cause it was not correct, insufficient. And so he did two or three more that way, and finally got a proof for theorem one. Now, I was feeling relaxed because I didn't have a proof of theorem one, had a proof for theorem two. So he went on down his list of people, oh, about half that class were high school mathematics teachers, and they were taking a Foundations of Geometry course, which they thought they knew geometry. So, he went through seven or eight people. I don't remember how many in either case, but do you have a proof of theorem one? Yes, I got a proof of theorem one. Well, would you present it on the board? And he would talk them out of it. Well, he got to Ms. Brady and asked her, did she have a proof of theorem one? Yes, she did. Would she present it? And he talked her out of it. I was next. Do you have a proof of theorem one? Yes, I do, it's the same as Ms. Brady's. He said, \"Well, see if you can give it?\" I gave it. Now, Dr. Moore may have been a sexist at that time. He was known to be very harsh on the black population. He was born in '82 or '83 or something like that. They actually named a building for him in 1973, a 14-story building, the Robert L. Moore Hall, and it housed mathematics, physics. I guess mathematics and physics. I thought they had chemistry there, but I don't guess so. No, mathematics and physics. Well, last summer, the summer of 2020, they changed the name of that hall and just named it physics astronomy. Oh, it was really that Physics, Math, and Astronomy. It was not mathematics and astronomy. And I wrote the chair of the department complaining and I never did hear from him. I haven't seen what the name is yet. I would prefer it be mathematics and astronomy. Anyway, I enjoyed Dr. Moore's class because I could prove those theorems. It went well. Well, the physics course was Heat and Thermodynamics. They were hour and a half classes. The first four day of class, we took the first four chapters of the textbook. The fifth day, we had an exam. The next four days, we did the next four chapters of the textbook, and the 10th day, we had an exam. Well, by that time, the instructor had gotten into the book well enough that he slowed the pace, but it was the same sort of thing. And I made 45 on the first exam, 55 on the second exam. I struggled up, I made an 85 on the fifth exam. Then we took the final exam, three-hour final exam, goodness sakes, about halfway through it, I put my pencil down, went out in the hall, got a drink of water, and thought, well, I'll just do what I can. I'll go back to the Panhandle of Texas and stay there. Well, the amazing thing is I made an A in both classes. I could not understand why they made a mistake in the physics department for one, but I got an A. One was physics and the other was mathematics. I never did take any more physics and it was later I had a great need for thermodynamics in some of the studies I was doing in biology. But I didn't.\r\n\r\n- So was there something early on, something looking back, you said, \"Okay, there's maybe where that talent or that aptitude for math came from?\"\r\n\r\n- Well, no. I've got to tell you that in high school, sophomore year, we just had algebra, geometry and algebra. We didn't have trigonometry, pre-calculus, and calculus. Had algebra. And so it was the 10th-grade algebra, in the first six weeks, my grade was D minus. That was a gift because I didn't deserve it too much, and an F. My mother talked to the instructor and the instructor said, \"Well, he's a bright young man, but he just does not have a knack for mathematics.\" Well, with mom's encouragement, I did better the next six weeks. Maybe that just directed me into mathematics, I don't know. But what the instructor didn't know is I didn't have any interest in school whatsoever.\r\n\r\n- Why?\r\n\r\n- I was doing agriculture things. I was raising some pigs and stuff like that. I was not doing well in any of my courses, actually. That one was the most, mathematics, you get it right away.\r\n\r\n- So was there a serious consideration about farming and a career that you had?\r\n\r\n- Oh, yeah. If I had had a farm, I might have been a farmer. My father was president of the college. He doesn't have any farms. Anyway, but I'm not sure I was thinking five minutes ahead of what I was gonna do, to tell you the truth. Anyway, the next year I took a geometry course from an outstanding teacher and I liked geometry, and I did very well in that course. And so I liked that. I had a chemistry course in high school and it was a good chemistry course, and that would have made me look sideways, I suppose. But no, I got to college, took mathematics and did it. Took all that they had in three years, and so I arranged to graduate and go to University of Texas, which is where I went to.\r\n\r\n- So what was UT like at that time?\r\n\r\n- 18,000 students. I came from one with 2,000. It was a whole lot bigger than I was used to, but not like today, 50,000. I don't know how it works, but anyway. Yeah, it was intimidating. I remember going back in the fall, going into the mathematics building, smelling the air conditioner, and the butterflies started. Something curious happened that year. See, I was 20 years old when I got there. And so I asked for a job grading papers. And on a Monday, I was told I would be teaching two classes on Friday.\r\n\r\n- Okay, explain that.\r\n\r\n- They were short of instructors, you know? Just the simple answer, they didn't have enough instructors. And so I taught those two classes.\r\n\r\n- Was that because of the subject matter or wartime efforts or what?\r\n\r\n- Well, I guess they weren't getting enough graduate students, actually, and I don't really know. They didn't have a very big faculty, but I was teaching algebra, first-course algebra. Today it probably is a non-credit course at universities, but anyway, got that done. And so I studied with Dr. Moore and took some time to get my PhD because I started out in junior classes.\r\n\r\n- Was he your advisor then?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, well, him. Well, he didn't become my advisor for a couple of three or four years.\r\n\r\n- But stepping back a little bit, so what were your options? Were you dead set on going to grad school and pursuing math?\r\n\r\n- Well, the alternative was to teach high school mathematics and I didn't seriously consider that. At 20, I was too young to teach. So that was, I guess, really, and I didn't think very much. I knew that I didn't know much mathematics after I went to West Texas and I'd taken the classes they had, but that did not include a whole lot of mathematics. And so it was sort of natural that I applied to Colorado, I applied to Texas, I applied to Rice. Colorado was sort of remote. They didn't have any job opportunities. And I went to Rice, and very kind professor, going to lunch, stopped and talked to me for 15 minutes. And he talked about some things I'd never heard about and didn't understand. But I went to Texas. Actually, it was a graduate student at Texas who had, one, gone to West Texas State, two, he was trained as a teacher and he did some practice teaching in Canyon High School in my geometry class. So, we sorta had a connection there and he welcomed me. He introduced me to Dr. Moore, and Dr. Wall, and Dr. Ettlinger, the three people in the department I really needed to know. It was just a total different reception. And Texas was good, I went to Texas. Now I will comment that I didn't take any more physics. It was spring 1962, I was getting ready to graduate, writing my dissertation and all like that. I got a letter from the dean's office that said that I was supposed to take six credits as a minor outside of mathematics. Oh my goodness. Well, we taught in the mathematics department a probability course and a statistics course that were one-year courses, and I took them both. And then I taught the probability course three semesters. And in the second semester, I had a bunch of students from business, from the business course. Oh my goodness, I was teaching in that course out of the notes from the person who had recently lead the course in the department, and one one of the problems we had was a problem of on a slanted floor, you'd drop a needle, and what is the probability that needle does not across the line or it might just lined up with the slant? It's called the Buffon Needle Problem. It's well known. B-U-F-O-O-N, I think. Well, I was teaching these business students and one of them came up about the third or fourth week, and he had a brochure from the Business College saying what they needed to know in probability and said, \"This is what we need to know,\" and it talked about the normal distribution and various things, which we did. But he said, \"We don't need to study about needles falling on the floor.\" Oh my gosh. So I took that, but I told him I'd read that brochure and I'll tell him next time. I've got to say the very last section was the Buffon Needle Problem. Bet he thinks a lot from me. Incidentally, Moore had this method of teaching and he followed it all the way through. He began calculus doing about the same thing, stating problems and seeing whether students had solutions.\r\n\r\n- And was this something that caught on in other departments or within the field, or was this unique to him and his teaching?\r\n\r\n- It was known as the Moore method of teaching and it was done by many of his students in other departments. I'm not sure how many who were not his students or students of his students actually picked it up. It's now terminated. I've got to get the word for you. I don't have it right now. But there is a gentle method of doing this kind of teaching. It is so different from Moore's method. He would be tickled. Moore had two rules. Don't read any books. Don't talk to your fellow students about your proofs. Well, this other method of doing it is talking about collaborative learning and stuff like that. They have a name for it. I have to say though, and I was subscribed to it, Mathematical Association sponsors the room. And I was member of the group for a while, but they took it upon themselves to write a letter, a paragraph or two, introductory to their program, separating themselves from R.L. Moore because of his racist history. And I dropped out of it for that reason. Is that yours?\r\n\r\n- I think that's you. Do you want to take a quick break to check? Okay, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Start with this. But I thought to myself, those business students, they're in there, and I looked in the Business College curriculum and they can count those in the Business College, probability, and it's 12 credits. Well, I wrote out a letter to the Graduate College from the Dean of Business Administration saying that those two courses would count as a minor in business administration. I took it to him to sign. He grumbled, \"I don't know what a minor in business is,\" but he signed it. So, I have a minor in business administration.\r\n\r\n- That's great.\r\n\r\n- Anyway.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. So how did you settle on set topology?\r\n\r\n- That's what Dr. Moore did, point-set topology, and it was a very special kind of topology. There's a more general algebraic topology that's practiced by more people, not Moore people, M-O-R-E people. Well, the first thing that I did was try to learn some algebraic topology, went and graduated so I could expand, but I pretty quickly at Iowa State, I did some topology, I taught some topology. I had three graduates in topology, PhDs. They had difficulty getting jobs at that time because things had changed and stuff, but topology wasn't that popular.\r\n\r\n- Why?\r\n\r\n- Well, it was very abstract and of interest mostly to the Texas school. Now there's a person named R.L. Bean who was at Wisconsin, and he was the outstanding point-set typologist of Dr. Moore's group. He had five graduates who were presidents of either the American Mathematical Society or the Mathematical Association, so his students did well. But it was sort of falling out of favor. Bean went back to Texas as chair of the department for some period of time. But anyway, it was just not so popular. There was not a shortage of faculty at that time. That made it more difficult. I was beginning to wonder in my thinking about what I'd like to do because topology is sort of like playing bridge, really intentionally playing bridge. It's really hard playing bridge. And I didn't see any applications of it. And so I started looking around for applications. I settled on biology as being my interest and I attended several courses here. I told Dr. Barnes, the chair of the department at the time, he may hear of me over in the Biology Department. That was okay with him. And so I set in on four or five year-long biology courses from very good people. And then very fortunately, Oscar Kempthorne apparently knew I had some interest in biology. He was in statistics, extraordinarily outstanding statistician. And he asked if I wanted to work in his laboratory for the summer. Well, yeah, yeah, I did. I didn't get as close to biology there as I wished I had, but-\r\n\r\n- Why not?\r\n\r\n- Well, he was doing more the background of statistics for animal science and stuff like that. But he didn't do as much with the animal scientists. I didn't really... Well, anyway, I wrote three papers with him. I was very happy to get that kind of production, and they were both pretty academic papers, more relevant than point-set topology, but not as relevant as I wanted to. Then my life, well, it took a couple of turns. It was about '73/'74, I went to Malaysia on a Fulbright fellowship. Well, professorship, they called it. I went to a university in Malaysia, University Kebangsaan, Malaysia. I'll spell it for you. It's in my vitae.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's fine.\r\n\r\n- It was a university had been established for three years, and I think I got there at the end of the first three years, and they were starting in the fourth year. My assignment was to consult with them about their curriculum in mathematics. Well, it turns out they had a very rich curriculum. The faculty there consisted of quite a few people from Indonesia, maybe 10 or 12 people from Indonesia. And those people had all studied mostly in United States, one or two in England, but mostly in the United States. So they had mathematics from a broad collection of the United States. And actually, they were trying to teach it all, all components to their undergraduates. And that was the only comment that I had for some reason to the dean, saying, \"Look, the students need a little bit more focus in their undergraduate program.\" I was not critical of any one of the faculty members. They were doing their stuff and they were good. And they were Rice University, University of Tennessee. They had been at good universities here.\r\n\r\n- So what was life like during that time?\r\n\r\n- At Malaysia?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- It's a very good place to go because English is widely used. Incidentally, Malaysia had a very outstanding university established by the British. They got their freedom from the British in like '63 or '64, something like that. I was there about 10 years later. But the problem is that university was dominated by the Chinese population who were very aggressive, intellectually, financially, whatever, and the Malaysians are laid back. One person explained it to me this way, that during the Korean War, there was a great shortage of rubber, and the Chinese rubber people stripped their trees twice a day to get all of the rubber out they could. Malays, maybe every second day, 'cause they got enough. It was selling at a high price. They didn't need so much. Anyway, they had a much more casual attitude towards things. Now I suspect that it's changed a good bit by now, but it was a very simple place for us to live. Now, our children went to Malaysian schools. We wanted them to do that.\r\n\r\n- How old were they at the time?\r\n\r\n- They were grade two and five.\r\n\r\n- Was that a big adjustment for them?\r\n\r\n- Well, the public schools were beginning to use Malay language in the public schools, and they started with kindergarten, first-garten, second grade. And so my daughter was in a class of 50 people. She's a very blonde haired person, different than 49 people who were very dark and all. And she got stomachaches, and bless her heart, the woman brought her home one day and explained it Betsy was having stomachaches. So we changed her to a private school. There's a word for it. I'm not getting it out. Anyway, and that cured the stomachaches. My son, they were still about half English, so they had enough English, he was okay. His mathematics, arithmetic, make a mistake in arithmetic, you may get your fingers tapped with a ruler. I think that's a holdover from the British system. Anyway, they did okay. And actually, my son remembers Malaysia very fondly. My daughter Betsy, not so much. She was a blonde young lady and people wanted to feel her blonde hair and that sort of thing, but she's okay.\r\n\r\n- So you met your wife in grad school then?\r\n\r\n- No, I met my wife on the Figure 3 Ranch. My father was very fond of quail hunting. He did a lot of fishing and hunting, and stuff like that. It started in Kentucky. He had a trap line when he was in high school. So, he was very much into hunting. And Carolyn's father was a rancher. He had the Figure 3 Ranch. He had inherited a good part of the ground from his parents, but he also purchased and it was big ranch. Well, he had a bunch of mesquite trees. I think that's the same thing. Oh, I'll close it.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Well, they had a barbecue, an ex-student barbecue each fall and West Texas faculty would take halves of beef and put them on a rack and cook them overnight. And it was fantastic barbecue. And as I recall, they didn't really charge the ex-students that much for it. They put it on. And so that was a big deal. Well, they needed firewood, and Carolyn's father had firewood on his ranch, so they would come out with a big truck loaded up with firewood. And so my father became acquainted with Carolyn's father who went to West Texas for two years. He played football. He was the quarterback and he was quite good as quarterback. After one year he announced he would not be going back. And the team had a game down in North Texas, which is east and to the south of us, and the ranch was east of us. And the coach brought the registrar along to the ranch, signed up her father, so he went down to West Texas and he played football that season, too. And as a matter of fact, I think he was president of the ex-student association at some period. Well, maybe at that time when my father was there, maybe that's how he met him. Yeah, it is. Well, we went out to the Figure 3 Rance to go quail hunting. He had quail, and came in sometime middle of the afternoon and Carolyn came in. She was a basketball player and she had a basketball game that night. Well, I was sitting in the kitchen. I met her, but she didn't meet me. She doesn't remember it. Actually, she played on the Texas championship women's basketball team for that class, her sophomore, junior, and senior year. And then her senior year, she was named to the alternative team. So she really played basketball. And that had some influence on our activities up here.\r\n\r\n- I bet.\r\n\r\n- We got tickets to football games . Clyde Williams, you don't know of Clyde Williams stadium.\r\n\r\n- So I grew up here.\r\n\r\n- Where?\r\n\r\n- Marshalltown. I came for basketball games. So we liked Iowa State basketball, but we were Hawkeye football.\r\n\r\n- In the Armory?\r\n\r\n- Yup.\r\n\r\n- Yup, okay, well we did. too. Also, some of the cultural events were in the Armory. Once I remember, Van Cliburn came, played the piano for us. The first thing he did was come in, bow and sit down, started the \"Star Spangled Banner.\" And everybody jumped up. That was good. Then there was \"Fiddler on the Roof.\" That was outstanding. And the trumpeter, Louis Armstrong.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n- He was here.\r\n\r\n- We have a picture of him with Si.\r\n\r\n- Oh, have you?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well, they had some really impressive performances coming to the Armory. Anyway, that's the verdict of it. I met my wife on the Finger 3 Ranch.\r\n\r\n- So back to like '73/'74. So you're finishing up the Fulbright fellowship. So, then what?\r\n\r\n- Well, I got diverted into administrative stuff with the Curriculum Committee. I was chair of the College Curriculum Committee. I was on the College Curriculum Committee I guess from '75 to '80, and I was chair the last five years. I chaired the College Curriculum Committee the last five years. Now, that was all fairly straight forward. We negotiated some arguments sometimes between colleges, but in '80, it was decided we'd change from the quarter system to the semester system. And that year was a demanding year, all the Curriculum Committee. We did not have a international language exam requirement in our college, foreign language requirement we called it, but now it's like better, international language. We didn't have a foreign language requirement. And it was really the belief, all the people, that were nine members, all the people on that committee that we should have a foreign language requirement. Now what had happened in the 1960s, the faculty just gave up on students and said, \"Do what you want to.\" And they dropped that foreign language requirement. And then they came back, oh my gosh, some places they had a foreign language requirement. They allowed computer programming to be a language. So they'd count that as one of their-\r\n\r\n- No, that's very forward-thinking thinking.\r\n\r\n- It's forward-thinking, but not very cultural. Anyway, and we didn't make the change to the foreign language requirement. Unfortunately, we dropped the speech requirement. Now, that was because we had quarter courses, three-quarter credit courses, and that translated to two credits on the semester system. And we didn't want to have, well, 7 times 2 is 14. We didn't want students taking two-credit courses, for crying out loud. And so we issued a statement very early in the year that we would like you to convert them to three-credit courses Well, speech wanted to do a three-credit course, but the College Committee was not that strong about doing three credits of speech. There was some discussion between speech and English about combining the freshman English and speech and stuff. That didn't work. Well, that was a tense time because we were talking about some people's jobs, careers. If you drop that speech requirement, you got a lot of people been teaching speech. That was not good. The language was more academic argument. And I've got to say Zora Zimmerman was instrumental in carrying the argument to the faculty senate, I guess. I don't know what we call them. I've forgotten what they called the faculty organization that made decisions for the college. Instead of having whole faculty meetings attended by 10 people, representatives from each of the college, and they had, oh, faculty assembly maybe, that had a representative from each college and they attended and it was much better there. There was a sequence of five Wednesday afternoons from three to five o'clock that that assembly met, and I was responsible for talking to them about all the changes we'd made. Those two I mentioned were the most crucial ones, but we had some others. And that was pretty demanding.\r\n\r\n- Looking back, do you think you made the right decision and proceeded the right way? Or were there other things you maybe would have done differently?\r\n\r\n- I haven't thought differently. I don't think so. It was something useful to be doing and interesting to be doing. I wouldn't say that. I will say that I had a year relaxation and then I was chair of the University Curriculum Committee for four years. And I've gotta say the University Curriculum Committee is easier than the College Curriculum Committee.\r\n\r\n- How so?\r\n\r\n- You've got arguments going on in the college. We only had one real discussion, oh, two or three discussions in the University Committee, but mostly those things had been ironed out and it was easier to get that done.\r\n\r\n- So there were no big issues at that level?\r\n\r\n- Not one. There was one coming from animal, food, Food and Nutrition, Food and Nutrition. And they wanted to change their name to Food Science. Well, it happens home economics had a course, Food Science. So I asked at the time, the person, Rodney Ford, \"Have you talked to with Food Science?\" Yes, they were all for it. Well, subsequent investigation, they hadn't heard about it. So that one dropped out pretty fast. But that one's the only one. It wasn't that much of a problem.\r\n\r\n- Let's step back a bit. So going back to kind of your life here at Iowa State. What was the reputation back then? And especially within mathematics. So what was it like when you came?\r\n\r\n- Well, you're gonna talk to A.M. Fink and he wrote the history of the Mathematics Department and he can tell you better about what their reputation was. It was okay, but you know it was always a service department in the eyes of the rest of the university. We taught calculus, we taught electrical stuff, but that's what they thought they wanted us here for is to do service courses. And of course, we thought we would do research. In fact, I came here, and when I went to mathematics meetings, I always had graduate students I knew, and they asked me, \"What are you working on today?\" So, you kept working on problems of research, and it was recognized by the department very well that that was a good thing. But I think we had several people who went to engineering. I was talking with them about this Tuesday. We have meetings of mathematics retirees, and I get, by sort of strange reason, I initiated the first one, and we've been meeting monthly.\r\n\r\n- Oh, great.\r\n\r\n- And it really is very good, so I was talking to them at the amendment retirees meeting. We went by Zoom, too long, too long. I will tell you though that one thing good happened. When you're running a committee, there are three components that are important. One, you should have an agenda clear cut, two, start it on time, three, adjourn on time. Those are the three things.\r\n\r\n- Pretty simple.\r\n\r\n- Well, those Zoom sessions, there's not really an agenda. You just get there. We didn't have 14 or so people, 15 or something like that. One of the good things about Zoom is we have one retiree at Oxford and we could get him in. We have one on Hawaii, we can get him. We met at one o'clock in the afternoon and get them in.\r\n\r\n- Worldwide, yeah.\r\n\r\n- And we had, well, two in California, one in Texas, so that worked. But January this year, I said, \"Okay, today our activity is gonna be each person is gonna tell about your early years, elementary school, middle school, and high school, perhaps college mathematics. What was it like?\" Well, the first one spoke, and it was so interesting, I said, \"Okay, we gotta record this.\" And so we recorded it. I asked him later to give his, so we got a recording.\r\n\r\n- Oh, great.\r\n\r\n- Well, I wanted a transcript of that. So I got the recording and it took about 15 seconds for me to realize, look, I don't write, get him to write the transcript. So now I have 15 transcripts and I've got two more promised. I still have more to go, but not sure how much I'm gonna do. They're fascinating.\r\n\r\n- I bet.\r\n\r\n- They really are good, good stories they have. I will check with them. I'm sure it's okay, but I'll pass the transcripts on to you.\r\n\r\n- Absolutely, that'd be a great addition to the history of the program.\r\n\r\n- You have to know about it, that would be good.\r\n\r\n- What were the dynamics in the department like back then? What was the culture?\r\n\r\n- Very relaxed, as far as I'm concerned. I stayed here four years and was told that spring of my fourth year, \"You've been promoted to associate professor.\" I stayed four more years and then told, \"You've been promoted to full professor.\" I had not done anything towards enabling that. Now, for crying out loud, people have to get five letters off campus and certifying their importance and all that, and I think it's horrible. I really think the faculty, the older faculty took responsibility saying, \"Yes, he's gonna make it and so do it.\" Now maybe you can't do it that way, it just won't work. But I do think the faculty ought to take a lot of responsibility of deciding whether to or not to. I think five letters from outside is excessive. You might call up somebody or might talk to somebody or something. Anyway, it was much more relaxed.\r\n\r\n- So who were some of the people that you worked with most closely?\r\n\r\n- Well, Bernard Venadreen was chair of the department. I'm thinking of the older ones. I guess, well, it was Fred Wright was in the department and gosh, I gotta get the catalog out and look at it. I'm having trouble doing that. Now, I'll tell you that I guess I've got a reputation in curriculum because about '68, I was chair of the Mathematics Department Curriculum Committee, and that was for four years. But there's another committee I specifically want to tell you about. There was a Mathematics Engineering Coordinating Committee. I was the mathematician coordinator Edward C. Jones, he's electrical engineering. And the point was to communicate with engineering about the calculus scores. And at one stage I wrote up a menu, Topics In Calculus, price tag, one week, 10 days, stuff like that. It said, \"You can select the topics you want.\" Well, that was a matter of discussion and stuff, but that was a way of talking. Well, Ed and I, Ed is very, very good, by the way. You look him up on the web. You'll find he did very, very well, international advising of colleges, mostly in the Middle East on their electrical engineering stuff. And I talked to him this morning because what we arranged was an exchange, mathematics faculty taught engineering courses, engineering faculty taught mathematics courses. And I taught field theory, two quarters of field theory and electrical engineering. And that was very illuminating to me because we had to use and another thing, it's slipping out, but I'll get it in a minute. Anyway, some of the three dimensional theorems that we teach in ordinary calculus scores, they were crucial to understanding field theory and electrical engineering. And then Ed taught, we had two levels of freshmen calculus, those who make pretty high grades on the placement exam are put in the upper level, and Ed taught that course. I guess he taught three semesters of that course, 'cause he taught differential equation, differential equation, which is the fourth semester, and I taught electrical. And then I know that Peter Caldwell was on that committee, but he didn't do teaching all out of the department. But I think one or two people did from the mathematics teach in engineering. Now, Ed commented today, well, one reason that it was possible was that engineering enrollment was falling. So they needed something for them to do.\r\n\r\n- And was that type of exchange, was that unique or was that somewhat common?\r\n\r\n- I think you wouldn't find it happening any place else. I think it was pretty unusual. I guess some small schools may have some interplay like that.\r\n\r\n- So what was the genesis of the idea?\r\n\r\n- I think Ed and I just made it up.\r\n\r\n- But was there a practical application? What was the goal?\r\n\r\n- The whole goal of the committee was to enhance communication between engineering and mathematics. You get an engineer over there and he's grumbling about get in and learn that in calculus and stuff like that, and so that was the incentive they maybe gained from engineering to begin with. I don't know, but I'm sure that engineers, first of all, know a lot of mathematics, and they're sure they know how to teach it.\r\n\r\n- And did that inspire similar types of collaborations with faculty or other departments?\r\n\r\n- No, not other departments. I don't think that's happened in placing those. I haven't heard of it. And we, of course, are pretty close to engineering, so it might be, but you'd think so in a biological sense is they'd be close enough that they'd be exchanging faculty.\r\n\r\n- So you've talked a little bit about some of the administrative challenges, but what other challenges did you or the department and faculty face back then?\r\n\r\n- About 1973... No, maybe before that, I guess so, we were overwhelmed with students, and the calculus class, it was decided we had to teach calculus in class size 300. Yeah, that draws your breath.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- And I was very critical of that. I guess I was chair of the Curriculum Committee at the time, and I thought, no, no, that's not the thing to do. But we just were short of faculty. I said class size 300. I think we began with two lectures in three small groups with graduate student lectures. Now they're doing that full-time. I don't think it's a good idea. I asked myself and I asked them, \"How many of your mathematics students decided to be mathematics majors?\" That's crucial.\r\n\r\n- And what did they say?\r\n\r\n- Well, now that was a real challenge to the department. I was very critical of it, but I said, \"Okay, I'll do it.\" First of all, I'm not a good lecturer. My voice sometimes just disappears from me and stuff like that. I have some problems keeping a steady voice in ordinary conversation. But I said, \"Oh, I'll do it.\" Oh my gosh, I still remember walking over the first day to Kildee Hall auditorium, 330 students in there. And my practice in teaching is coming out of the Moore method is to ask students and send things to the board, talk to a student or like that. And in Kildee Hall, you've got the student, the whole first row is students here and the blackboard about 20 feet in between the two. I didn't know about the overhead projector or anything. So I was trying to write on the blackboard and they were trying to see. It was horrible.\r\n\r\n- Did you have a microphone?\r\n\r\n- I think maybe I did have a microphone. Yes, I think I did have a microphone. Otherwise, they couldn't have heard it.\r\n\r\n- How did you rethink the class and the pedagogy and just the performance or the interaction?\r\n\r\n- First off, do the simple things. Don't get very exotic with any kind of proof or something like that. And to tell the truth, I was a failure at teaching it. My evaluation of it was I was not, did not good. I taught it for two years that way.\r\n\r\n- Is that just because of the translation from the small to the big setting was...\r\n\r\n- Just it overwhelmed me. I don't know. But the first time I turned around to ask a question, there were 330 students to ask the question of. I remember specifically that. So then that was bad experience. But we did it for two or three years, and then it was decided we could do it. Maybe we got Carver Hall in that process. I can't remember whether we had Carver Hall at that time. Maybe, we were still trying to teach. Let me see. Well, you know, we started out in Beardshear. Beardshear had mathematics, political science, foreign languages, and administration. And we taught classes in Beardshear. There were some classrooms in Beardshear we used. But anyway, that was a vexing problem.\r\n\r\n- And how did the department change or evolve over time?\r\n\r\n- Well, we had a period in the 1970s when it was quite difficult to get a job. And so we selected some quite good faculty in that time I think. Now there's some of us who were pretty good at the time, but we did get some good faculty in the late '70s, early '80s, something like that. We had a chair who came in about 1968 and he stayed until '83 I think. And the faculty had become quite discontent with him and let it be known. I was not discontent with him at all.\r\n\r\n- What was the issue?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't really know. I don't know the issues, to tell the truth. I was not having a problem with him. Part of it is he'd been there so long, I think. We needed to do some other things.\r\n\r\n- And were there external pressures or external changes, either at other universities or within the field that ISU adopted or changed in certain ways?\r\n\r\n- Well, we had a very good chair here for two years recently. Now Paul Sacks is now the chair and he's good. He's very collected and very rational and a very good person. The person before him was dynamic, and he brought in quite a few things that were quite good. And I can't get his name out right now, but we can get that later. One of the things he did was sort of normalize the calculus because they did have harsh lectures of calculus, but they weren't very well coordinated. And one of the things he initiated was that, but he also came in... Oh, our faculty shrunk when I retired in 2000. We had about 52 faculty. It got down to 35. No, it was really, really... Therefore, you got to do large lectures.\r\n\r\n- Wow.\r\n\r\n- That's the dean's decision. And I fault the dean very much for doing that. Well, the fellow came in and he had an agreement with the dean that he could hire 6 new people. And he did, he got some good people, and he got some people in the biological sciences, which is what I'd turn to. We haven't gotten to things yet, well, I was doing some in statistics. He did quite a good job of gathering some good people in and took care of the people who were here, I think.\r\n\r\n- Did you ever think about leaving Iowa State?\r\n\r\n- When we first came here, we were from Texas. My wife was from Texas and all. And we thought to ourselves, well, a couple of three years and we'll be looking back south. Well, frankly, there's almost no university. Kansas is good. Kansas is good, but Oklahoma is not good. Oklahoma State is not good. Texas Tech is not good. I couldn't go back to University of Texas, for crying out loud. They'd never let me do that. They're really good. And I'll point out to you, there's the Association of American Universities, AAU. The Big 12 has Texas, Baylor for reasons I can't understand, Kansas and Iowa state. And we're really privileged to be there. Frankly, I think we're probably there because of the Ames Laboratory, but don't let that word out. I think that's made a lot of difference in a sense. Well, we got some really cool, we've got agriculture chemistry, but chemistry involves the Ames Lab, and we've got some very... Statistics is very good department, and the Engineering College has some very good departments and are getting better. They really have emerged in the past. Believe it or not, I've been retired for 21 years. That's a long time. A lot's happened, anyway. And Ames is a wonderful place and Iowa State is a wonderful place. I really liked Iowa State. And so there wasn't the drive, well, there is a drive, 800 miles to get home to Christmas time and stuff like that. And that was a drive, but nope, never did really think about leaving Iowa State and my wife never had any push to go back home, although we missed out on some things, but still.\r\n\r\n- Let's turn back to teaching and students. So you talked a little bit about teaching in big classes, but generally, what was your approach to teaching?\r\n\r\n- Well, generally, I certainly began with some of the Moore method. Incidentally, I introduced a class in 1968, Mathematics 201, which I used strictly Moore Method to teach some of the calculus components that were needed. I think it's probably still in the curriculum, and I'm sure that each time each person teaches it, teaches it with the idea of elevating students experiences in their field or whatever field and getting accustomed to proving things. You know, in calculus, we don't ask students to prove things to pick up. In that class, that was designed to mature our mathematics majors. I don't know, I'd like to know, is that still in the catalog? You don't have a catalog around with you? Well, I'll get on that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, they're all online now. So what course did you enjoy teaching the most and why?\r\n\r\n- Hm, well, the course that I enjoyed teaching was Calculus for the Life Sciences. That's a course that I and some colleagues in biology introduced in 1995. It was a four-credit course, full class, but we had a wet laboratory we sent students to about six or seven times a semester to get data. And we modeled bacteria growth, things like that, cardiac output, various things that we could either actually do or mimic in the laboratory. And that course, that's a wonderful course. I have a textbook now as a product of that teaching that it's online by the Mathematical Association of America and it's in hard copy by the American Mathematical Society. And I'd like you to read the back page, the back cover of that. I'll probably bring the back cover in for you to see. That was the course. I liked that 201 course when I introduced it. And I just taught it two years. Jerry Matthews wanted to teach it, so I let him teach it. It's a desirable course. I think they should be keeping that. I taught a numerical analysis class that I liked a lot. I had good students. They were mostly electrical engineering students. They were all required to take it, and then we had some other students in it, but I taught it several years. I taught it online in a sense. It was televised in the laboratory here and sent up to John Deere and some other place. But I liked that course. That's a good course.\r\n\r\n- So what did you do specifically with grad students?\r\n\r\n- Oh, well, two categories. I had some in topology and so I worked with them. I taught topology classes, graduate topology classes for a while, and it was very much fun to teach topology. And I would find a problem for them to work on, and they'd work on it. After some time, it would turn into a dissertation. I had a few master's degrees. Then I started in the biological sciences. In the biological sciences, it was always arranged that he or she had two PhD advisors, one in biology and one in mathematics. And so actually, most of the work came out of biology, but there would be some mathematics in it that we would write and get that put together. Now, that's a method that is used in the Bioinformatics and Computational Biology PhD program. I was involved in the development of that program, and I think that's a pretty powerful way of getting interaction between departments. I think it works. And it's still operating, I think, doing pretty well. They produced four PhDs last year, I think.\r\n\r\n- Do you still keep in touch with some of your grad students?\r\n\r\n- I've got to say I had a student that... The answer's somewhat yes. I had one student in Malaysia who came to Iowa State and he did a master's degree with me. But his way of studying was I'd give him a problem, he'd go look for it in the library. Well, he went on to Leeds and he got a PhD at Leeds in England. Went back to University in Kebangsaan, served a complete career in that university, and I got an email from him just last Thursday or Friday.\r\n\r\n- Oh, wow.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. So I have that connection I enjoy very much. Some of the biology students I hear from occasionally. But my life has changed substantially since retirement. I retired in 2000 and went to the University of Kansas and studied paleontology.\r\n\r\n- Why?\r\n\r\n- Well, on this ranch that I told you about, I found a tooth. I first found it in a nubbin of dirt and something like that. And I got it in, I cleaned it up, and I said, \"Ooh.\" I thought first it was a calf horn that had been trimmed off. But no, it was a tooth, and I was really interested in that tooth. I went over to Carl Vondra here in the geology department and he said, \"Well, we could cut it and decide whether it's mammal or reptile.\" But I didn't wanna cut it. And he said, \"It's probably in the Triassic Period.\" Well, he was right about the Triassic Period. I subsequently found maybe 20 of those teeth. And I found in a museum in my hometown in Canyon, Texas, the Panhandle Plains Historical Museum, they had a phytosaur. And I looked at that phytosaur tooth, and, ah, that's it, it's a phytosaur. A phytosaur is a cousin of the crocodile. In 1991, I found that tooth, and I subsequently, this will be usual, I subsequently did a good bit of looking at paleontology. I was working in DC down at the Smithsonian Museum. I was working in Boston and they had a museum, not as good, but I also was reading a good bit about paleontology. Now, one of my handicaps is I wake up at night. I was awake from 2:00 to 4:00 this morning. That doesn't happen often, but sometimes, and the best thing for me to do is to get up and read, and the best thing to read is a paleontology text. It'll put you to sleep. That really is the case. Anyway, I have been really interested in that tooth and the other teeth that I found down there, and there's another animal that I found some, two or three teeth of. I found one a year and a half ago that I haven't yet identified. I retired because I got to age 65. 1962, when I came here, I filled out TIAA-CREF, when do you plan to retire? 65. And I was enjoying what I was doing. I was doing some good stuff in the biological sciences, particularly. And I retired.\r\n\r\n- Well, let's circle back. So to follow up on teaching and talk a little bit more about your research. So, what were some of the main topics or areas of research that you engaged in over the years?\r\n\r\n- Okay, now, I told you that I sort of got into administrative stuff and wasn't doing much research, but I was talking with a fellow named Young over in Animal Science, he was doing some studies on putting a radioactive tracer in the room and seeing it show up in different parts of the body. And I did talk to him a bit. I don't remember just how we got together, but this was, well, I guess this was about 1982 or 3 or '81 or so. And there was a computer program that would take the data that he had and tell you what the flow rate was between different compartments, exchange rate between compartments. That was written at the National Institutes of Health, the National Cancer Institute, Laboratory of Mathematical Biology. Well, in 1984, we had an empty nest, and I realized I've been wanting to go on faculty improvement leave. This is the chance. Well, that was about September 25, 1984, and the paper for applying for it was supposed to be in September the 1st, but it didn't go to the college till September the 30th or October the 1st. So, I quickly wrote up that I wanted to go to this, and found out about that program, a very solid proposal. Department passed it, sent it on down to the college and the college approved it. Well, September 25, while I was writing that, I called that Laboratory of Mathematical Biology saying, \"Hey, I'd like to come visit.\" And I talked to a person, Charles DeLisi. Now, he'll show up again. D-E, capital L-I-S-I, Charles DeLisi. Bottom line, DeLisi makes things happen. That's what I think of him the most. But he also is very bright and he's done a lot of good things himself. Well, he was interim chairman of that department. The fellow that had written the computer program had passed away about six months ago and he had taken over the chairmanship of it. And I told him that, \"Well, I'm applying for faculty improvement leave. I'll get a semester or maybe even six months support.\" He has an immediate statement. \"That's not very long. We'll support you the rest of the year.\" All right, so there I was focused. I went and I got there July the 1st in '85 and DeLisi met me and we talked a little bit. I can't remember exactly, but maybe July 2nd or 3rd, talking in his office, he explained what he had been doing. Well, he had been looking at immunology and the segments of a protein that would stimulate an immune response. If a virus gets into your body, your body processes proteins and sticks them out on the surface and you get an immune response. He was looking at that. He and a immunologist had just published a paper, I think in \"Science\" on that topic. And so that's what he was interested in. They had a hypothesis that this cleft that fit inside that molecule that was on the surface would mean that the foreign protein would form a helix in that cleft, and the bottom side of the helix would be hydrophobic, the top side would be hydrophilic. And so what you look for are alternating hydrophobic and hydrophilic or something like that. That's a whole lot more interesting than transfer of radioactive material in the body. I did talk with a person who had taken over that stuff. He gave me some data. It was lousy data about brain and, oh, I can't get the name out, the chemical in the brain and stuff. And I tried on that. To this day, I don't really know how to run that program. I could write the program 'cause I now know what it is. Matt Lamb has a program that does it and stuff like that. But I really got interested in what DeLisi was doing. He had 23 examples of known segments that stimulate the immune response. And so I started, I wrote the code to do it, and there was a woman from Israel came in as a post-doc. And so she and I worked together quite a bit on this. I actually wrote the code and all, but actually, she improved it at one stage. I was gone for the month of August, and she improved it by doing the statistics differently. But anyway, Hanah Margalit and I had worked together a lot. And so we got a program. We tested it on those 23 and it showed positive results on like 21 of the 23 segments he knew about. So that was encouraging. And I was still working on improving the program and all. One day, the immunologist came in... Oh, I was attending his laboratory sessions always. And actually Charles DeLisi didn't get appointed permanent head of that department, and he went to the Department of Defense there in DC and became deputy chief of the Department of Defense, deputy director of the Department of Defense.\r\n\r\n- Wow.\r\n\r\n- He has written his history and autobiography and I have reviewed it for him, criticized it, and sent it back. And it's really a fascinating thing what he did. Anyway, well, a quick indicator, he assembled a group of people in 1983 or '84 to talk about the Human Genome Project, and he was the first to assemble a group like that. And he's got recognition from the United States Senate, acknowledging that he was the first to assemble a group to initiate the Human Genome Project.\r\n\r\n- Oh, wow.\r\n\r\n- I told you, he makes things happen.\r\n\r\n- Absolutely, yeah.\r\n\r\n- So taking me on for six months, it was trivial. Well, this fellow from the immunologist came in the laboratory probably in October, said he had the envelope. He had the sequence of amino acids of the envelope protein for HIV. Well, that's big time in '85.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- '85, people hardly knew what HIV was. He had gotten the sequence from a person there, Bob somebody in NIH, who had stolen it from some French people. I didn't know anything about that until sometime later. Anyway, he says, \"You wanna try your program on it?\" Yeah, we wanna try our program on that. Now curiously, my colleague, Margalit, was not so interested in it because she had to type the thing in, and oh my god, I typed it in and then I made her proofread it for me and stuff like that. We ran it. We were working together better than that, but we ran it, and there were five segments that looked positive. Two of those segments were clearly all hydrophobic. They had the oscillation, but it was very hydrophobic to not so hydrophobic. Well, they weren't gonna work because they wouldn't dissolve in water. They wouldn't be a candidate. I've forgotten what the third one was, but there were two of them that were good-looking candidates. At that time, DeLisi had to send it out to a laboratory to get those fragments made. Today, they do it. Anyway, he had it made, and somehow he had to have access to the whole virus, I guess, yeah. Experimental, real stuff. He immunized mice with these two fragments, tested them on the whole virus. The mice T-cells responded. The immunized mice with the whole virus, tested on these two segments, they responded. He had people in Zaire. 12 people in Zaire had been vaccinated with a count box with this HIV envelope protein transfected into the count box. He got blood samples from those 12 people. 11 of the 12 tested positive for our sample, our two. Boy, you talk about, that's exciting stuff.\r\n\r\n- Absolutely.\r\n\r\n- I'm a routine, pretty good routine mathematician and I did have a principal role in developing the code for it, but they did it all and they had the thinking. And that's very exciting. I worked all Monday through Friday and Saturday morning on that and it was really good. I will mention incidentally, my wife went to Senator Grassley's office. He was better then in '85 than he is now, and said she'd liked to volunteer. Their eyes glazed over and, \"Volunteer? What do you mean volunteer?\" \"Well, I can empty a waste basket. I can file papers and stuff like that.\" Well, she did that for a week and they put her on as a receptionist. So, she spent all the time as a receptionist in Grassley's office. And when we got together for supper, her stories-\r\n\r\n- Ah!\r\n\r\n- That was a fun time for both of us. Anyway, one day maybe the following fall, about the spring of that year, at least it wasn't long in NIH, but he came in and said, \"You're really just getting started. You need to stay another year.\" Well, I contacted I think it was Ann Steiner was the chair and she said, \"We'll work on it.\" Now, NIH needed to have some commitment from the university that I wasn't just riding on their business, particularly afraid that I might want to just stay there on their business. I had still something from them, and she arranged for me to have a summer salary from Iowa State and that went to NIH, and NIH was satisfied with that. So that was very good. Anyway, so I stayed two years, and I enjoy coming back and telling the people, \"Yes, I had faculty improvement leave. It took two years to improve me.\"\r\n\r\n- Did you ever think of shifting gears and continuing down that line?\r\n\r\n- Not exactly, although I continued that line. What time are we dealing with? We've about done our two hours.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I was still doing that line here. Well, the following summer, I went back to NIH as an expert. It turns out that Bob, ah drat, you get my age and names drop out. He's here. He's director of the Plant Sciences Competition, Bob. Anyway.\r\n\r\n- We can insert it.\r\n\r\n- He arranged for me to come back for another six weeks or something like that, to finish up, two months. And then DeLisi went to Mount Sinai University in New York, and I visited him for a summer. He didn't pay me anything, but he provided a residence on Fifth Avenue.\r\n\r\n- Wow, that's not too bad.\r\n\r\n- Which took care of that. And again, Carolyn was with me, and boy, she enjoyed New York. Anyway, and then DeLisi went to Boston University and I visited him for maybe six summers. I think the first summer he just provided housing, but the next summers, he had a summer salary for me. And so I did continue that work. Now, one of the things that happened was that I would come back here, I'd come back in the summer, and things had progressed so much that I had to spend the first two or three weeks catching up with the field, you know, 'cause I wasn't really doing that much here. One of the best papers that I ever got involved with, I was working on in the summer of maybe '94... Jernigan, Bob Jernigan-\r\n\r\n- Bob Jernigan, okay.\r\n\r\n- Is the name I was trying to get out. And I was actually generalizing a method of Bob Jernigan, something that he's specializing in, and I left a Fortran program to do that, and I had a dataset and I doing it. And I got back and DeLisi had had a graduate student take that program. Oh, he wrote a beautiful code, C++. I was using Fortran, he was using C++. He had gotten some special proteins to run it on. And so that was his dissertation and it was published. He was the first author and I'm the second author and that's perfectly good. But that paper is still being... 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And so I'm still working now. I'm there because there was a person, George Vasmatzis who was entered Boston University maybe the second year I was there, and he came from electrical engineering. Well, I sort of mentored him, but also, he liked to sail. I had a sailboat rented in Boston. And so he and I did a lot of sailing. George is too interesting. I've got to tell you this step. George came from Greece. He wound up going to Texas Tech. Why Texas tech? They accepted him, right? Well, George is a very communicative type of person, but anyway, he was taking English as a foreign language from a person at Texas Tech who was from a place named Ralls. And my brother-in-law's wife was from Ralls. And so she took George up to the ranch where my wife's family and her brother was running what they called cowboy morning. They'd bring a bunch of dudes in from maybe by busload, take them in wagon over to the ranch, feed them breakfast and stuff like that. Well, it just blew my mind when I was working with George in Boston. He said, well, he's been to the cowboy morning. I guess it came up with conversation with Carolyn or something like that, my wife. Anyway, well, George learned bioinformatics at Boston university, went back to NIH and did some things, but now he's at Mayo Clinic. And he and another person at Ames were in charge of the individualized cancer medicine treatment. And George did the computational part of it. The person from Ames did the biological part of it. And so they were doing that up until about a year ago. And then they changed that structure. I think Mayo Clinic has way of rotating directors, laboratories out to do something else. So he's out doing something else right now. So, I am privileged to be talking with them once a week, advising.\r\n\r\n- Let's do one more question for today in the research, and then we'll stop and we'll pick up at a second time. 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the Iowa State University Special Collections and University Archives Department of Mathematics Oral History Project. Today is June 21st, 2021. This is the second part of an interview with professor Jim Cornette. Hi, good morning, Jim.\r\n\r\n- Good morning, Daniel.\r\n\r\n- All right, so last time we were talking about research. So looking back, would you say that there was one overarching theme or some particular question that guided your work in general?\r\n\r\n- No, I started out as it points at typology. That's what my graduate work was. And my last paper on typology was 1974. I graduated 1962, but I was looking into the biological sciences. And I was greatly assisted by Oscar Kempthorne of statistics who provided me some summer support to work on some of his problem. And that was very helpful. From about 75 to 85, I was pretty well locked into some administrative work, curriculum committee. I was Chair of the College Curriculum Committee and we made the transition of the quarter system to the semester system. And that was a pretty strange work. And then I was Chair of the University Curriculum Committee for four years, but in 1985, I went to the National Institute of Health, and I went there to learn how to use some software that they had originated. Jerry Young of animals science was wanting to use that software to monitor radioactive material that he put in the room of and see where it appears in the liver and the arms legs stuff like that. Well, I had gotten it, software, and found it just to be very, very opaque, difficult to understand and use. And I went to that laboratory to learn how to use that software. The fellow that'd written it had passed away. But I found out that he had seen to it that no good documentation was given out with that software. They wanted me to come see him. Well, I met Charles at Lisie. He was then temporary Chair of that... I see, mathematical biology department in the National Cancer Institute. And he had some really interesting work to do on protein sequence, finding portions of a protein would stimulate the immune system, particularly we worked on the overall protein of the HIV virus, and in 1985, that was new stuff. And I'm a pretty routine mathematician, but working very interesting work. And I worked there... Well, I called Charles at Lisie on the telephone to see about going down there. Told him that I could get support for maybe as much as six months from Iowa State. This was faculty approved leave. And he said, we'll cover the other six months. And so, stay a year. And just like that he initiated me. He made many things go. Incidentally he is recognized with United State Senate Resolution for initiating the Human Genome project. So, initiating six months for me, ex notary. And we worked on that HIV human protein and got some interesting results. And they turned out to be significant and eventually led to patent on a vaccine for HIV. Now, HIV mutates so rapidly that the portions we found did not turn out to be significant all the thing was studied for three years, different laboratories. But I stayed working with Charles at Lisie. He went.. Well from that laboratory he went to the department of defense where he worked before. And that's where he did the initiation of the human genome project. But then he went to Mount Sinai University in New York, and then he went to Boston University as Dean of Engineering. They have a big engineering... Medical engineering medical department. And I trailed him in those places, working in the summertime, working two spring semesters. And that was very influential. As a consequence of that when I came back here, I was pretty well educated in bioinformatics in the particular area I knew something about. Bioinformatics is very broad area, but I and some others here initiated a program in bioinformatics, the BCB PhD programs, bioinformatics and computational biology. And I'll emphasize that there were others that really carried a lot of the load there of getting that done. My main contribution was, I suggested that we ought to have a course in bioinformatics at Iowa State University. That was probably 1997. And I contacted greener jobs, patch novel, John Mayfield. So there was Computer Science, and then they had one in mathematics. Had a candidate textbook and we would sit for the semester selecting topics that would be appropriate for the course the next semester. Well Gina is a person who makes things happen too. When we went to our first committee meeting, which was fortunately in the medical biology building, there were 25 people in attendance. Gina had let it be known. We went on the on bioinformatics. And that seminar was the most exciting seminar I've ever been involved with. I gave the first lecture because it was... I was gonna have five people, don't do it, you're destroying it. Well, we talked about the topic for the next session. And one or two or three of the biologists said, well, we'll give biometrics introduction to them. And they will do the competition part. And it went that way the whole semester. It was a fantastic event in my life. And the last meeting that we had, we had 45 people in attendance. I would emphasize that I gave the first lecture and never gave another lecture. Either was so pull the thing. Said we'll do it, whatever. But that was a very exciting time. And out of that then emerged this what we had, the first , I explained I was eight. I guess it was the spring of 98 and I didn't even teach it. That's normal. Doing the problem was in it. And David Fernandez Bunka from Computer Science, probably they're the ones that taught. Well, subsequent to that, we didn't get, like program, BSB program. And I would emphasize that Dan Voltas, greener jobs were really instrumental in getting that goal. Dan Voltas particularly got a graduate research program supported by NSF started. But Gina carried the curriculum burden of convincing college curriculum committee, graduate curriculum committee, the graduate faculty to approve a program which had three identified the courses in the program. But she had gathered in lots of courses from other departments that were being supportive. And it wasn't collaborative, it still is collaborative program. Students have two PhD advisors, one in the biological sense, one in the computational sciences. And I really think that's a strong system. It was almost the first one in the United States. There was one at Boston University that was established the same year that we started. He might've established well by Charles Lisie . Anyway, initially, we got extraordinarily good candidates because we had the only program Boston University had one. And so, we have good start to the program. I think there still are good candidates, but they're competing programs. So we can't just get the green with grub. But we can hook people.\r\n\r\n- So this type of collaboration program development, was that unique or were there other programs like that?\r\n\r\n- In bioinformatics, there was not any that I was aware of. I only within the last year, read Charles Lisie's autobiography and realized that we were doing the same thing at different universities. And I delighted in informing him that we had parallel. He was responsible for me. He was responsible for our program. But no, I don't know of other programs or maybe he four years, hence afterwards there were starting. I'm sure University of Minnesota had one. Ohio State University have one. Anyway.\r\n\r\n- So you talked a little bit... But in terms of that consulting work over the years, what was Iowa State's relationship with outside companies? How did that work? And how did that evolve over time?\r\n\r\n- I really was not that much involved in other companies and consulting other companies about their work. The main thing that I might've been involved in was teaching courses at like John by television. We had particularly numerical analysis, which is common to the engineering sciences, and I really liked the course very much. And I was privileged to teach a class here on campus of 35 or so students in a room that was recording the dealt by television, the presentation. And I really liked that method because I was teaching that class. They were observing by television. I wasn't teaching to the television. Although I certainly talked to them on various stages. And I created notes that I used that a mailed on with a television thing. And I think that was pretty, pretty strong program. I think it's... We've got Zoom, we've got all sorts of ways to teach all campus, but that was... Oh, that was before anything like sudden trying to think what it was, maybe back to 1980.\r\n\r\n- So you've already talked about work with the curriculum committee, but were there other notable committees or task forces that you served on?\r\n\r\n- Well, I may have mentioned this also. I went to Malaysia 73, 74. And when I returned from Malaysia, one of the students followed me. And then I was Bakley advisor to the association of Malaysian students at ISU. On is what they call themselves associates. And I did that until 85 when I went to the night. And that was a very enjoyable relationship. We had 300 Malaysian students on campus. What had happened was the British, the United Kingdom had raised their tuition for international students. And so, they come to United States was the same price at the UK. And they spread out all over the United States. We had 300. There were 18,000 Malaysian students in the US one year at the outcome. And it was just a fantastic. You know what? They could not have built that kind of educational system in Malaysia. And they had good.... And particularly Malaysia, students went back to Malaysia. The Chinese students did not necessarily want to go back to Malaysia. Malaysia was 40% Chinese, 50% Malay and 10% Indian when I was there. And while he had control of the country, Chinese where the energetic business, academic people. So it was quite an interesting experience. And they have probably still the international student. Then quick or foods or stuff like that. And there's a very good hope. It didn't happen last year, I know, but I hope it's still a Bible program.\r\n\r\n- What kind of professional contributions beyond ISU were important to you or your work?\r\n\r\n- Well, I was chair of the mathematical association for the State of Iowa. And then I was on the board of the association, mathematical association of America in LA that was what it was called. I was on that board for three years. And on that board, I initiated the idea that the MA position should be that we don't give colleagues credit for high school courses. Trigonometry, that's a high school course. Curiously though my high school didn't have trigonometry. But the elementary algebra and stuff like should not create college credit for that. And the methadone association adopted a resolution to that effect that our committee put together. I initially made him call together and talk about it. And there was resistance from... At our state colleges agriculture didn't want to make trigonometry non-credit. Their students needed trigonometry. They wanted given credit. So it's not, I don't know what the status is now. It turns out so many students started calculus when they come here and do calculus continue calculus when they come here. That may be a fairly moot point for now.\r\n\r\n- All right, so let's step back a little bit and talk about your time here. So in the 1960s and 70s, it was particularly eventful time, given student protests, the Vietnam war, et cetera. So what was your experience or how did ISU handle those times and were there any other specific events in which you were involved?\r\n\r\n- Well, I think I mentioned last night, we had a mathematics engineering coordinator, coordinating committee. And we exchanged faculty between engineering and mathematics. That was a fairly substantial event. Then the times it was really in the 70s, we had the protest and stuff like that. And I think I was thinking it as well as any university could they announced the students, could leave the last two or three weeks that the semester is one, they had to. And I remember doing final exams and being somewhat optional about it. There was an attempt to recognize that this is a serious matter and students were into it. And I think that we always... I don't remember, we had demonstrations on the campus but I don't remember any thoughts associated.\r\n\r\n- It was that, would you say result of effective administration by the president, provost, deans. So how are things different?\r\n\r\n- A whole bunch of things were in it. And the faculty were on board. They wanted to do what they could.\r\n\r\n- Were there other particular events at ISU that you experienced, you thought were especially significant?\r\n\r\n- I'm going to mention vision. I very much regret, we don't steal ambition. We used to hang them, fold them, pin them in Beardshear hall, hanging down and swinging back and forth. And as the earth turns, you can see that pendulum swing at different directions. Mathematics department did that. And I was... Vision was a very good thing that these trait was in Jordan, Berlin, everybody. And we got lots of salary hands over college down. It made a mess of it. But, I don't know what we're doing to bring students to campus in summertime they come, but they've already committed to Iowa State. But that was in the spring, usually the first week of May or something like that. And students we're still looking for campus. And we had grade school students and junior high students and high school students, and the spectrum of students. Well, let's see, what else?\r\n\r\n- What do you think were the major changes here at Iowa State during your time?\r\n\r\n- Well, first considerably expansion of the student population, which had considerable impact on the faculty. And in 68 or 69 or so, it was decided that we'd have to do countless in lectures of size 300 with other supplementary meetings, with graduate students and stuff. We got over that at about 1972, I guess, caught up a little bit. There were whole lot more mathematics faculty graduates available. I think when I graduated, maybe 300 PhDs were produced and in 72, maybe a thousand PhDs, mathematics reputations. So that had a big impact on our job. And we hired a bunch, we all complained. When I retired, we had 50 members of the department, and maybe four or five years afterwards, we had 35. And that wasn't going to serious contraction. I think it was a really challenging time for the department to figure out how you teach the calculus class, how you keep her research program going. And so that was disaster. But I had to have that done and only complaint.\r\n\r\n- And how would you say that relationship with the administration of the president of the provost, the college? What were some of the major changes or how was that relationship overall?\r\n\r\n- I don't know of much department interaction with the president or the provost. Certainly the dean, and the dean was responsible for us going from 52 people to 35 people. And so, I don't think that was a pretty good relationship, although I'm sure it was department chairs that were complaining about it. But that that's what took place. So I'm pretty sure that was contentious. We had a very good chair brought here three years ago. I can't get his name out right now, but he made a deal with the dean that he would get six new appointments to fill, to come here. And he filled those appointments with very good people. So I guess it's always little competition. You got 27 departments, the dean has to be aware of and they need to let it grow some places. The real, real problem with mathematics department is that it is viewed by the university, the rest of the university as a service department, that these calculus differential equations advanced calculations on. And they can have a research program if they won't do, but well, no, they better have a research program now. But I think that the view of the department from the rest of the university is not particularly conducive to a strong mathematics department.\r\n\r\n- So, picking up on that, how would you say ISU is different from other universities or peer institutions?\r\n\r\n- Only in the hard hinder ness of some of the mathematicians.\r\n\r\n- Yourself included?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm not as hard headed, I'd like to be. And there are some, well, Wisconsin has had when I was graduating and stuff like that. And outstanding Mathematics Research Center. A person raised a question about that Mathematics Research Center because it was a defense operated, thanks to Harvard. And raised the question, but rule of mathematics in defense. And another person's view was mathematics is a language, you can do it any way you want to. But the research center at Wisconsin was very major center and had some very good people.\r\n\r\n- What places that Iowa State are especially meaningful to you and why?\r\n\r\n- Central Campus, that's pretty obvious. I liked Central Campus. I'm glad we got it. Someplace I suggest would be at the parking lot of campus, but no. Central Campus is a nice place. The union has been a good place to go to. The microbiology building, it's been a very important place. Actually, the agriculture college, I did some work with Jerry Young and some other go-to people when I was breaking out of just typology. And that turned out to be interesting and I think useful.\r\n\r\n- So you retired in 2000, is that correct?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- All right, so what interests outside of your field are now significant to you and why did you retire I guess back in 2000?\r\n\r\n- Because I was 65. That just seemed to be what to do. And I retired and I went to the University of Kansas, 10 years to study paleontology. I went there at first is just non-degree seeking students. And then I realized, well, I'll get a better program if I build it around. That's great. So I got a master's degree, and then I went out to . Well, Carl Bondra here, suggested Denver had a good volunteer program. And they were unique at the time of having a really good volunteer program. People went into it, took classes, took eight classes or six classes depending on their orientation in paleontology, geology, various and sundry things. And so, that worked out really well. And I practice there was to go out in May and work in the laboratory of the museum, and then go to the field for six weeks or so sometimes eight weeks or never. Doing projects that curators in the museum hadn't they would expand their work. And they were very good about taking volunteers out to involve them in their research. And some volunteers were involved in writing papers with the curators. Some curators promoted that more than others. Now, I'm gonna tell you sort of a long story here. I'll be as quick as I can. Among other things, it was... When I first went out to Denver, I could stay in a motel for $25 a night, and it was pretty cheap. Now the same motel was $75 a night. So it's not as easy too. But 2016 was a tough year. My wife passed away. My daughter got divorced. She lived in Boone, and I loaned him the money on the house so I got to sell the house. My grandson Carl, had been performing very poorly since he got out of high school and the drugs and various things. And he was arrested, had a trial in June, went to prison for a year. That was a bad year.\r\n\r\n- All at once, yeah.\r\n\r\n- I'm gonna finish the story, what happened. In August that year I contacted a good friend in Denver saying I don't have permits to collect anything, but I'm going up to Buck Springs to search for fossils and then take a camera and take a GPS and not... I won't have any data equipment along. And we went, he said he had to go with me. Actually, we took his truck, my band is pretty good but his friends better. And we went up there and the place it Nick by some classes from university of Michigan. So we went on North on there, into the mountains that are on the bottom edge of the Bighorn Basin And we found a leaf site. Leaves, 56 million year old leaves, it's amazing. You find those, you can... They will be compressed between the layers of limestone and stuff and you can break those apart in those leaves, amazing quality. Sometimes the wax is on the leave or lift up and still be there. Well that excited us in particularly my friend had... No, I was using my pocket knife. He had a rock hammer and we didn't stay 30 minutes, but he took out something that he said was the imprint of a bomb leaf. Well then excited as we knew bomb or whelming at the time at sometime. But anyway, my friend is his name is Dan . Took her puzzles back to Denver museum, showed them to Ian Miller who was director of her scientist, but also a Paleobotanist. So that was a good connection and he said well Scott Wing is worked up there for 40 years doing leaves. I'll put you in touch with Scott, he can tell you what you had. It was 2016 Springs, September, 2016, May of 2016 my friend Don out of heart attack died, one afternoon, just like that. He had been diabetic and particularly taking that much care about it but he hadn't heard it. And I still had not heard him, Scott Wing So I contacted Ian, he was out of town he says, I'll be back on June of 12th and I'll put you in touch with Scott Wing. Well on the 14th, he wrote a very, very nice letter about me to Scott Wing. And I followed it up with information, Ian didn't know that like I had a master's degree in Paleontology. Trying to pull all the stops. Well, three hours after my email, Scott emailed me saying, I'll be up there June. I'll be in Wyoming the 30th of June to July the 21st and would welcome you in my day. Whoa, Scott Wing is built upon this that this with is that if it was that really big time stuff.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it is.\r\n\r\n- That was very exciting. And so I write back saying, I'll be there. Plan to stay the full time or as long as you can stand me and I can stand you. So we did and it was really... Oh, was fantastic opportunity, good time. But we did not get to our site that Noah and I found him.\r\n\r\n- Why not?\r\n\r\n- Well, he had work that he was doing North of there. And the place we found was on the south edge of where he works. Well, 2017... 2018 I went out by myself. That was when we had the eclipse and the optimum path of the eclipse was very close to Buck Springs where we'd been the first summer. And so I went up there and I can't... I put my chair within 10 feet of the... From path. I had the coordinates of the outcome of path and my GPS is good to 10 feet. I was right on. So I saw that eclipse. One of the things people say about the eclipse is to look and see how it affects animals. So I was looking for antelope, I was looking for deer, I was looking for or anything. They weren't anything up there. But there was an ant eight feet from me. And when they started hitting dark from the eclipse the ants all went back to ant It was like it turned dark or something like that. And so when it started getting light again the ants moved out, I turned on help or they went themselves. Then I went on up to Don and my leaf site, spent two days excavating leaves and got some good leaves, and brought them back. Spent two months playing them, trying to take pictures of them. They're brown leaves on brown soil and they're really hard to get a good picture. But I got 30 some odd good pictures, made a PowerPoint of it and sent it back to the Denver friends and sent it to Ian Iowa and sent to Scott Wing. A last page of the PowerPoint was I hope to excavate half of that site next summer. Yeah would be 2019, I guess. And hope they all have some help, we're sending it to my friends and to my son I thought he might come up. Well, Scott Wing wrote back about two weeks later saying, I'll help you. Well, that's idiotic. He's not gonna I'll maybe help him. Well, it turns out that he did get there with two of his endurance and my grandson Ryan from Jackson, Wyoming came over and we had a wonderful day excavating those leaves. I was concerned when first making arrangements, what was going to happen to those leaves. Already had my I had clean that leaves. And I mentioned that to Scott and he didn't really respond to it, but I'd also arranged with Ian Denver he said, well he'll take the leaves. It's not, doesn't take them. Well, we were up there digging and Scott brings out a block and we open a block and get good leave. And he says, wrap it up and mark it SLW 21801, Scott L Wing, 1801 is going back to the Smithsonian, big guy. Now I'm gonna... I worked for Scott the last four summers, I've been work for him. This summer I'm leaving, next week and I'll come back September the second.\r\n\r\n- Oh, great.\r\n\r\n- But he's gonna take a vacation in between and not visit my friends . But I'm really, really excited to be going. I'm getting too old to that work, that's a problem. But anyway, I'm really excited. But in 2018, let me see. 2019 in the fall, I took two grandsons to Washington DC to see things. Now I was principally going because they had a new deep time exhibit in the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History. And Scott Wing had been one of three people who put that together. Scott was then another paleontologist and an artist. And they opened in June, but I I intentionally did not go in June. So I went in October and it was much better. And wonderful thing to see during that display and Scott was he had a death in the family and he wasn't there, But there was another fellow Rich Barkley who was working with Smithsonian and I'd known him in Denver for about four years. And he had visited... Well, he had stayed in my house a couple of times traveling. And he showed us around the new exhibit and he's wonderful. He said we have lunch, he went back to his office. Six minutes later he came out, found your fossils. Those fossils that my grandson and I dug out, he found the drawer where they were. So we found those fossils, it was Smithsonian.\r\n\r\n- That's great.\r\n\r\n- In the archives down deep and underneath. And my grandson Ryan who had been there, swore that one of those wrongs he knew he remembered he had rafted. So that's been really big thing. Another thing I've done starting in Denver, I went out there in 23. I guess it's 2004. I was in the Recreational Equipment incorporated REI store. And there was a brochure from the Bolder Boulder 10K race. And their motto is oh yes you can. I've been a runner since I was doing curriculum work here, and just alternate days, not really big three miles on the days that really didn't well to keep me in good shape. And but I was thinking if I can run six miles. So I did, and I ran six miles and finished the race. That's what I was trying to do. Well to get the top 10 people a medal, and I got a metal ninth place. The next year I took second place. And so I've been running that Bolder Boulder every year for 18 years. And I just got back it's on Memorial day and I just got back from running it... this year Bolder Boulder typically has 50,000 runners. They weren't going collect 50,000, runners no. So they got six different places. They got three Saturday, Sunday, Monday and even change it to your time and plays and stuff like that. And so I did it . Always just that I will tell you first, I took first place this year.\r\n\r\n- Really?\r\n\r\n- But I'll also tell you that we're just three us.\r\n\r\n- Oh, congratulations another level. Yeah, that's great.\r\n\r\n- And so that has been an important part of my going west is participate. When we were at 76, I contacted 31 hours and said at the end of the race I'm going to row 76, section 214. I'd like to see some of them. Well I got pulled over 14 people up there. And I'd written some women and one of the women said that last summer she had run her 1000 road race, marathon up Pikes Peak.\r\n\r\n- Oh God.\r\n\r\n- And one of the people, that the person who ran the fastest in 2019, was a missionary in China for 35 years. The second place this year, was captain of battleship. For 10 years he returned in a sense, he was still in the . Went to law school and he was quit as magistrate judge in a federal court. These are crazy people. One of them is a fellow of the college of gynecologists and obstetricians, he's in Ohio. Very curious bunch of people. And I've written to them each year. In 2019, we had 10 people. Anyway, so that's been part of my retirement.\r\n\r\n- So what has it been like sharing your life in the academic world with your family and including your current-\r\n\r\n- Oh, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Your .\r\n\r\n- Well I did finish to get my grandson up there. To a dig, they are very interested and supportive of it. Both my son and my daughter, but they have looked nice live and they live in Texas. Last time I saw him was Thanksgiving 2019. And that's been a problem, but they enjoy the thing to them, an outlier. Weird, whatever, but and they're supportive. And the grandsons, grandchildren particularly I enjoy talking to.\r\n\r\n- So how would you say your personal and family life impacted your ISU career and vice versa?\r\n\r\n- Well a wonderful wife Carolyn, we came up there about six months after we got married, thinking we'd go back to the Southwest. But I was think is better than any college or university, except for Kansas. Kansas is good. And Mike... But that's not Southwest, but there's Oklahoma. I didn't want to go to Oklahoma. There's Texas Tech, I didn't want to go there. I couldn't go to University of Texas for crying out loud and I didn't really apply to places down there. We were happy at names. Our first child was born and we got started raising the family and Aims is very, very good community. And Iowa state is a wonderful community, I just really value that. And all my family is in Texas now. And so the question when you got move to Texas, I don't think so. I think I would say the community here is a place to be.\r\n\r\n- Do you have any advice for faculty either now or in the future that are interested in pursuing mathematics?\r\n\r\n- Well, I have organized the mathematic retirees. I got them together to have a breakfast. We got COVID-19 so we've been doing Zoom calls. And Zoom calls were sort of disorganized you get 14 or 15 people on. And well in January I said and I warned them ahead of time, our meeting is gonna each person to tell about their grade school or junior high school or high school, maybe college experience in mathematics. Well we started that meeting and the first person had such a fantastic story that we got recorded. And we got it recorded and then I wanted a transcript of it and it took about 15 seconds was like I can't write that transcript they got to write it. And so I've got 15 and the promise of two more transcripts of those. And they come from quite a wide variety of mathematics. Now, one of the people in that group asked if you were starting again, which do mathematics, always you do artificial intelligence or something related to mathematics. And I think the general thinking was when we were doing it, there was mathematics that was what we did. A lot of what computer science emerged from the mathematics department. The people running computer is not. And Anderson a mechanical engineer, he was mathematician we've populated with a number of departments in this community. The bottom line is though if you like mathematics do it, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well picking up on that was there a lot of collaboration with the computer science? Or when did that department get established?\r\n\r\n- Well Claire Maple was in our department, but he became chair of the... I think let's see, he came the chair of Computer Science in the Ache Laboratory, first. And Bob Lambert was in our department, and he became... Well, I guess I half time, but more than half time in the laboratory. And we've asked other people who have been in the Ache Laboratory, but they've interacted with mathematics. There's one in computer science who is adjunct professor in mathematics. I'll think of his name, I know it well but . Anyway we have interacted pretty very well with departments. And as far as coming to Iowa state, we have some young people who are doing good research and still teaching. I have size 300, I guess . I asked the people, how many mathematics majors did you recruit out of your class of 300? You don't do that.\r\n\r\n- What recommendations would you have say for math departments, chairs, deans, et cetera. In terms of future for mathematics?\r\n\r\n- Well, I would say be sure that you have a viable research mathematics program. Now you will be asked to do a lot of the service courses because a lot of students study calculus and differential equations. And then I would advise them to connect with as much of the university as they can. I've had a good time with president and I have sponsored an award in the mathematics department, mathematics and interdisciplinary studies. And I'm real proud of that award. The fellow who got it this year really was a mechanical engineering major. But he got a B, he got a master. A bachelor's in mathematics, he completed then. Now it just happens that his mother cleaned my teeth this morning. And so we had good conversation about it. And she said that she listened his interviewing different over the telephone . And she was bringing this to hear some of it. And one of the people asking, why didn't you get mathematics . He's trying to get degree mechanical engineering And he says, because I liked mathematics. I love it, it's good. And that's the best thing can happen.\r\n\r\n- Any final thoughts or things that we've missed that you'd like to add?\r\n\r\n- I will actually mentioned having just talked about getting outside. There are people that have been very successful, very much inside the mathematics department, and they've done some very good work. And actually some of them did collaborate with computer science on some pretty abstract part of computer science. But anyway, there I can think of, well the chair of the department. I think people who really did mathematics and enjoyed it and maintained a good research program. I guess the majority would fit in that category. I'm just thinking back over. I think a lot of them did their work in mathematics.\r\n\r\n- Any final advice for mathematicians?\r\n\r\n- Well if you enjoy, do it. Incidentally mathematics is a very good background to take into a foreign department because you do have a thought process that's been trained a little differently than the biological sciences or something like that. And so I did have something to contribute on a few occasions in the context of by I would say like that's pretty much got it. 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