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On behalf of Sigma Xi, the scientific research society, I want to welcome you this evening to the, to the lecture. Before I introduce our speaker, I'd like to say just a few words about Sigma Xi. It's an honorary organization that's dedicated to the encouragement of research in the pure and applied sciences. There are presently are over 500 chapters and 125,000 members nationwide. Among its activities, The Iowa state chapter of Sigma Xi seeks each year to recognize the accomplishments of outstanding scientists, both students and faculty through their election to membership. We also sponsor several lectures during the year by nationally recognized scientists. Among its many activities, the national organization of Sigma Xi publishes bi-monthly an excellent journal, The American Scientist. It also provides financial support through its grants and aid program to scientists in the early years of their careers. And I will especially draw up the attention of graduate students to that research grant program because it can be an excellent way of picking up some money for dissertation work and so on. Well, enough said about Sigma Xi. Let me introduce our speaker, who is Dr. Wayne Campbell. He is a professor in and a former chairperson of the department of biology at Rice University in Houston. Dr. Campbell received his master's degree in zoology from the University of Illinois and his PhD degree in zoology and biochemistry from the University of Oklahoma. He has been on the faculty at Rice University since 1959. Although he's had temporary interruptions in his tenure through visiting professorships and various consulting assignments with different federal agencies, including the North American Space Agency, the manned spacecraft center and National Science Foundation. Dr. Campbell has very impressive credentials. He has published many scientific papers and he's presently editor of the Journal of Molecular Physiology. He also is an associate editor of the Journal of Experimental Zoology. Of particular relevance for his presentation this evening are appointments that he has held at the National Science Foundation. He has served as program director in regulatory biology and as director of the division of physiology, cellular and molecular biology. It gives me great pleasure this evening to welcome Dr. Campbell to Iowa state. His topic is Science and the Federal Government. I would like to mention before he begins there will be an informal reception following tonight's lecture. This will be at Stephen Bishop's residence at 2,609 Eisenhower. And he generously has drawn a map to aid people to find him. Going on park to Dr. Campbell.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Thank you, Dr. Hall Tam. Uh, my title Science and the Federal Government. What I'll really talk about is mainly the National Science Foundation because the origin or the starting of the National Science Foundation was the marriage of the federal government and science in this country in terms of the support of basic research. I think that the... considering the origins and nature of the National Science Foundation is appropriate because those of you who read science and other popular magazines like that will know that recently there has been a consideration of a reconsideration of the role of the National Science Foundation setting science policy. This is something that we've never really had in this country. But it is in fact the reason that the National Science Foundation was started. If I can read one quotation tonight. This is a quotation from the enabling act of the foundation. It says the board of the nation, that means the national science board and the director of the foundation shall recommend and encourage the pursuit of national policies for the promotion of basic research and education in the sciences. Again, those of you who are interested know that this is a function that the National Science Foundation has never done. Alan T Waterman, the first director of the foundation, was politically a student enough to realize that a small agency such as the National Science Foundation was at the time could not go into the other large agencies of the federal government and start evaluating their programs or dictating policies to them. So for that reason, for many years, this function of science policy, even despite congressional pressure on several occasions for the NSF to do this has never been done or if it has been done it's been in the guise of compiling statistics after the fact. And a lot of the foundations publications that they submit to the Congress and the president is sort of a cover up for this, this, this kind of policy, science policy activity. Now the agency is over a billion dollars in terms of its budget. And so perhaps the National Science Foundation is now large enough to assume the central role in setting some sort of a national science policy. And I mean that in the sense is to what use we're going to make of our always limited funds in terms of the support of science. Well, with that, I'd like to consider now very briefly and of necessity, it will be brief the origins, the historical origins, and to a certain extent the political origins of the National Science Foundation. I will try to be brief on this, but I think that it will give some background as to how or why the foundation conducts its business the way it does today. That is the way the National Science Foundation conducts the review process, the making of grants, et cetera, et cetera. It was pretty much set by Alan T Waterman, its first director. And there are some eccentricities there that are otherwise not explicable. If I could have the first slide and let's see.\r\n\r\n- Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Is that readable at this line? I'm going to start at the bottom here. Okay that's all right. I can read this. Okay. From a historical standpoint. I'm obviously not going to go through all this, but I would like to point out certain things because these historical events bear directly on the start of the foundation. Suffice it to say that prior to the world war II that most of the federal science, the federal supportive science either on its own laboratories or elsewhere, was directed toward helping itself and doing a job for the government or for an industry. There had been several periods in our history, and this is certainly a brief summary of all of them. The only one to pick up an important advantage in 19... In 1915, to help the then Fletchling Airline Industry. There was a nation advisory committee for aeronautics seven. This committee is important in the context I'm going to cover tonight because of the man, Vannever Bush who was a member and chairman of this committee. Another event that or another group that was very important or an event that was important was what happened, what Roosevelt did during the presidency. Roosevelt recognized the fact that science might be of some help to the country during that troubled time. And so he called to Washington, Paul Compton, who was then president of MIT, to sit at a science advisory board and see if science could be used to help solve some of the problems in the country. Well, I won't go into that. It was a short-lived committee. But what they pointed out or articulated publicly was the fact that in that time, the time this committee was set up, there were rumors of war in Europe and Compton's committee pointed out the fact that this country was completely dependent upon the European laboratories for it's source of basic scientific information and this scientific information or basic scientific information was keeping our technology going in this country. And so they recommended for the first time that the federal government support science or expanded science activity, basic science in this country, basically science and engineering, not by expanding the activities in government labs, but by making direct grants and aid to a university based scientist and also scientists in industry who were engaged in very basic research. Well... It'll surprise the people, the younger people, but at the time, this was pretty much heresy because the federal government had always been involved in very applied science. University scientists did not want any part of this. They viewed any sort of federal intervention even in terms of support as some sort of an intrusion that would be more of a hindrance than a help. They foresaw federal regulation, which we know didn't happen. Actually they foresaw it all. Okay. Well, anyway this was a short-lived committee. It was not, those pronouncements or recommendations were not without effect as we'll see in just a minute. With the outbreak of world war II, the only two groups that could possibly handle a scientific effort during world war II was the National Academy of Sciences National Research Council, which is a private institution that is advisory to the government, even though it has been static in both the Academy and the National Research Council were established by the government. The other group was the old National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics. So this problem was pointed out to Roosevelt by his aide, Harry Hopkins, who was a good friend of Vannever Bush, even though the two different political philosophies. And so Roosevelt then again set up a committee. This was first called the National Defense Research Committee. Bush was the chairman. It had Compton of MIT, Conant of Harvard and Jewett, who was president of the National Academy of Sciences? Well, again, this was a short-lived committee, but within a year it became the office of scientific research and development. The OSRD, that then coordinated all of the scientific activities during world war II. Now the OSRD had a different mode of operations that had been used before in the conduct of science for the federal government. First of all, the OSRD had no laboratories, it conducted no experiments. It carried out its work strictly by making grants and contracts to university and industrial based scientists. The very administration of these contracts was somewhat unique for the times, because there were two officers in charge of the contract. There was the contracting officer who was concerned with the business aspect of the contract. And then there was a scientific officer who was concerned with the, the science, scientific aspect of the contract. And those of you who deal now with the granting agencies know that there's a business office you deal with, the division of research grants or whatever it's called in the federal government. And then there are usually program officers who are for the most part trained in science. Okay. Well, so that is what... that was the way the scientific effort was conducted during world war II. Now this Compton's own committee, the science advisory board that Roosevelt had called in during their words had not gone unheeded because as early as 1942, there was introduced into the Senate a bill to establish a national science foundation And this was at a time that the US was just getting into world war II. The bill was introduced by Kilgore, who was the Senator from West Virginia. He had been trained as an engineer. He had a good friend who was a botanist at the university of West Virginia. And because of him, he had heard what had been said about the dependency of the U S on the European labs for their sources of basic information in the basic sciences. Now, Bush was aware, very much aware of this bill that Kilgore introduced, but apparently these two people did not get along because later when Bush had the what became eventually the successful, the bills introduced to start a national science foundation, he had a different Senator do it. Well, anyway, nothing happened with this bill. Toward the end of the war, when it was clear that the U.S. was going to come out all right, Roosevelt supposedly approached Vannever Bush, wrote him a letter, and this was delivered again by Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt's aide, And I say supposedly because some... most people feel that Bush actually wrote the letter, but in this letter there were four questions that Roosevelt asked of Bush. First of all, the first question was, \"How could the knowledge, the scientific knowledge that the U.S. had gained during world war II be quickly disseminated to the world without compromising the U.S. interest?\" A second question was, \"How could the federal government use a mechanism for an attack on diseases?\" I might add that when the OSRD was formed, it also took in the old medical research division of the National Research Council. And so that was the part of the OSRD that was concerned with the medical problems during world war, world war II. So there was this question then of how the federal government could fight disease in a systematic manner. A second, a third question was, \"How could the federal government support private, support basic research in both the private sector, the industrial sector, and the university sector.\" And the fourth question that Roosevelt asked Bush to address was, \"How could the United States be assured of a continuing supply of well-trained investigators to manage basic research efforts in the future.\" Now, Bush set up to cope with these or to handle these questions, Bush set up four separate committees. One committee to study each question and make recommendations. He had very little...he deliberately had very little to do with the actions of these committees and their recommendations. However, the final report that was put together from all of these committees was written by Bush, and it was strictly Vannever Bush's writing. This was submitted to Harry Truman because before this report was finished, Roosevelt had died, and the report is submitted to Harry Truman in June of 1984. And the title of it was Science, The Endless Frontier. And this is by Vannever Bush, then director of science... OSRD. This is really the founding document for the National Science Foundation. And so Vannever Bush is considered the father of the National Science Foundation. These were the recommendations made for the support of basic research with the federal government. Work directly through the grant mechanism. That was in very much contrast to what had been going on before, to what had gone on before because everything before that the government had supported had been for applied kind of activities. But in this document, basic research was defined as an activity that had not necessarily any immediate application. So I think that this has always... then and always has given problems in terms of accountability when you start talking about the support of basic research. Well, the document was submitted to Truman in 1945. I don't have time or inkling to go into all the political intrigue that went on for the next five years. It did mark a period of tremendous dissension in the scientific community, because there was again, a lot of opposition in the federal government getting involved in university activities. From Truman's standpoint, there was this main concern with accountability. And this in the context that you have to be accountable if you use taxpayers monies. And yet this was to be a very basic research it was a very free-ranging activity without necessarily any immediate application. The other questions that went on in this five-year debate, or the other questions that emerged and were talked about a lot, you've heard a lot about them even today. One was the control of patents. Who was to have the patents of any work, any patentable material that resulted from government supported research. There was another main concern about the geographical distribution of funds. There was a concern that supported the social sciences. There was a concern of the support of applied sciences. So these, these kinds of concerns were all raised. During these debates, there were three agencies that started making grants to universities. The Atomic Energy Commission was started in the mid like forties, mid forties, I guess. The Office of Naval Research started making grants and the National Institutes of Health started their extramural programs in 1946. Now, their granting mechanisms or the mechanisms they settled on were influenced to a great extent by the, the controversy and the discussions that were going on about the start of a national science foundation. Well, nevertheless in 1950, Truman signed the the enabling act into a public law. And so this was then the public law that allowed the foundation to get started. With all these other problems, the Korean war broke out at this time. And so there was very much concern that the National Science Foundation would never really get off the ground. Nevertheless Truman sent to Congress, the bill, for, I believe, about a half a million dollars for the first appropriation for the foundation. This was cut back to about a quarter of a million dollars and was appropriated. And so this allowed the foundation to get started. Now, the the enabling act, this was the organization of NSF that the enabling act called for. There was to be a national science board, a 24 member body appointed by the president. That is of course still the way it operates. And then there was to be a director. Now, this two headed monster kind of management thing, where you had a board and a director, the director does not work for the board and the board does not work for the director. This is what emerged out of the compromise as to who was to run the agency. There was also, this was another area of much dissension as to who would be in charge of the National Science Foundation. The scientists or the bureaucrats, so to speak. So this is why it emerged. Also, there were four divisions, the division of scientific personnel and education, biological science, mathematical, physical engineering sciences and medical research. Parenthetically this was to show you how the life gets more complicated. I just... this is what To point out some things, these are... these down here are divisions there are now directorates above the division and I'll explain that in just a minute. But anyway, this was the, the original organization of the foundation. So the first job was to get a director. Well, the first job was to appoint a national science board who was in fact responsible then for choosing a director. The first board that was set up was headed by Conant of Harvard. Bush, specifically requested that he not be on the board and certainly not as chairman. And so that grant or that request was respected. The board was established and they started considering directors or candidates for the directorship. There was a lot of political problems encountered. Alan T. Waterman, who was eventually chosen was actually not the top, one of the top candidates. He had worked at the OSRD, he was trained as a physicist at Princeton and had been in the OSRD. And then he was, when he was chosen to be director of the National Science Foundation, he was director of the office of Naval research. He almost was not confirmed but, said because his wife had been seen having tea attending tea at the Russian embassy. This was as you recall the days of But anyway, after some pleading to Truman from Truman and the congress, he was finally confirmed and became the first director. Now, Waterman established the way the foundation operated. One of the first things that was a concern was the granting of fellowships. And if you recall, when I said that there, the fourth question that had been submitted to Bush by Roosevelt was the question of how the United States could provide for a continuing source of well-trained investigators. That was through the fellowship mechanism. That is one of the least controversial things that the National Science Foundation has ever done. They seem not to have trouble with their fellowship program. In fact, when the education directorate was wiped out in FY '80 the monies for the fellowships was retained. Okay, well, so Waterman established... the review of the fellowships was done on contract to the National Research Council. That is what Waterman established. The fact that the main concern of the foundation would be to support university-based scientific activities. Most of the board members came from academia traditionally, or at least until recently, traditionally members of the national science were, or a high percentage is made up of college and university presidents and so forth. So there's been a very strong university connection. Waterman established the tradition of the Navy. When one goes to work at the NSF one is welcomed on board. That kind of thing still goes on. He established a collegial atmosphere that is gradually being eroded because it is now agency. He established the fact that proposals are reviewed by male reviewers. These are referred to as ad hoc reviewers in the foundation. And again, people who go to work at the foundation as program directors learn that ad hoc is actually a verb because you're always asked, \"Have you ad hoced your proposals?\" So it's actually a verb. One other thing that is of concern today or great concern among many people is Waterman is overhead, it's the question of overhead. Waterman also established direct costs or overhead at the foundation. Now, the... When they support a basic research in this country was only through the private foundations, like the Rockefeller, the Carnegie foundation. They allowed no overhead costs because they viewed their support to universities as grants and aid to allow universities to conduct their research. The OSRD, of course, in world war II was the concept of the cost plus kind of contract. So the OSRD bought research and they paid the total cost. And so that involves the so-called indirect costs. So that is where the indirect costs of the day come from and what are added this on I think it was something like it was a fixed cost at that time for everybody, all institutions, I think got 15% Well. So there was a very collegial atmosphere of Waterman/. And his new staff very glibly prepared their first budget for $8.6 million, they took it to the house hearings, and they were rather abruptly introduced to the politics, the politics on the Hill in Washington, D.C. because although the committee was very nice to them and respectful of them, they reduced this $8.6 million request to $300,000. That's about 98% reduction, I believe. But anyway, this was the introduction of the NSF to politics. This shocked it's supporters. And so there was a political, sort of a grassroots movement in Washington started. The press got into it, and there was some cartoons like this appeared in 1952. And because of this, then finally they got the bill or their activity budget restored to about $3.5 million. This allowed the foundation to get started. The first proposals, there were 28 proposals in November, 1952, and a few months later, there was some number of fellowships. So they started the foundation. This is... I'll show another one of these. It's more up to date. As you can see, not much happened to the budget of the foundation until about 1958. And this was the a phenomenon. And it started going up there very abruptly. So this is at least some thoughts or some, some highlights when it started the foundation. I would now like to very quickly go through some slides because I'd like to be able to save some time for questions in the end which is getting nearer. But I'd like to go through some slides and sort of comment on what the foundation does today and a little bit on how it does it all over. I would prefer to answer specific questions if you'd like to know about the processed so forth and so on. I can answer those questions later. The foundation has a a logo and these come in three slides It has a logo that is intended to have the connotation of the internationality of science. The international nature of science. That's people around the world. The foundation is an independent agency of the federal government. That is, it reports directly to the executive office and the OSR... This goes back to the days of the OSRD because the OSRD was established and also as an independent group that answered directly to the executive office simply to... to prevent the military from dominating the OSRD. So in the same sense then, the National Science Foundation now answers to the, is an independent agency. The liaison there is through Keyworth who is head of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. I think at least until perhaps recently, I think that the that connection or the access of the National Science Foundation to the executive was very good, the liaison there was very good. Now all the presidents have used the National Science Foundation to a certain extent. Nixon, for example, to implement his, some of, some aspects of his foreign policy set up the USSR program in the National Science Foundation. Right now the firing of interchange with Pullman is being executed through the National Science Foundation. So it has been used in the past by presidents. These are simply the committees. There's currently a debate between two committees, the committee on commerce, science and transportation, and they on labor and human resources, are having a little debate over who... they both feel they have have authority over the National Science Foundation, but that's yet to be resolved. This is now the higher organization, the higher management in the board of the National Science Foundation. I simply, put to say in that, rather complicated slide that I showed before, with all the divisions, the divisions are under these boxes which are referred to as directorates. In addition to a president, the national science board, and the director who were presidentially appointed, the deputy director of the foundation is also now a presidential appointment. That position is open right now. The national science board sets policy. This is with respect to budget categories. The director interacts mainly with the national science board and with the Congress. The deputy director is the one who actually is involved with the day-to-day operations at the National Science Foundation. The assistant director, as the people who head up the directorates are called A-A-E-O-P-B-S engineering MTS are also president... are also now presidential appointees. And I think all of those, I think all of those are now in place. I don't think there is a currently assistant director for mathematical and physical sciences. This is a statement of the NSF Google's as they see it. These are the areas of support. This is some, this is some idea of how much is involved in the support of research in the foundation. I don't know what year this was. Slide says 83. It says 26,000 proposals received. This requires the cost of the review process, quite a few individual scientific reviews. There are also a lot of advisory groups, and that is what comes out 15,000 number of people. This is some idea how, to what extent to, you know, what extent NSF support is used. It accounts for less than 3%, essentially what this slide says, NSF support accounts for less than 3% of the total research, federal research and development effort, but it's a major source of support at universities. My particular university, which is a small private university, the major source, our external support is from the National Science Foundation. And that's because it's has gives broad support for abroad. This is sort of a breakdown on the the support by disciplines. For example, in the biological sciences, NSF support only accounts for about 15%. That's simply because the national institutes of health have so much more money. Whereas in others like the, atmospheric, earth motion sciences, it is a major, a major source of support and so forth and so on. I think these, some of these figures have probably some of these have changed since 1982. This is the FY '85 budget. Again, it's broken down by directors of mathematical and physical sciences. Engineering has made a very marked emergence of the foundation's biological, behavioral sciences, atmospheric earth motion science. State of science technology and information, scientific technology information\r\n\r\n- Analogies.\r\n\r\n- Uh-huh.\r\n\r\n- Analogies. Getting used to these acronyms, The I is for international. That's where the international offices of the foundation are. The Science Technology and International Affairs, Scientific Technological and International Affairs ASC is this is something that was added on into the, in the appropriations. This $40 million is the advanced scientific computing. These are the super computers. Then the USAP is the United States Arctic Program. The SPE is the... is the re... The resurrected science and engineering education directorate. And so it's backed up to '82. This budget then is well over a billion dollars. Here is an up... At least they got next picture, the next to the latest directors picture on here. If they keep changing them, they're going to have to change the slide because there's not going to be room for that many photographs up there. But other than that, then the 85 is, is $1.5 billion. So that's the growth of the foundations in total dollars since its inception. The next and the last slide is the, this is the, the constant dollar level and that's the appropriation. So it's remained relatively constant, although it's beginning to go up now. Well, can I turn this off here? That's all I have to say now, like I said, we have about 10 minutes left or whatever amount of time you'd like to take, and I'll be glad to answer questions and getting the things that I have not gone through that you might be interested in. Yeah. 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BBS.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36681/file/105850#t=37.002,39.093"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36681/file/105850/transcript/22961/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the Program Director is under more constraint","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36681/file/105850#t=41.243,45.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36681/file/105850/transcript/22961/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they have to, he or 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They don't do that. So that's a historical reason for those two things. Now, I think that when you have a Program Director and just a mail review system, that the Program Director has a very great amount of influence. Where you an advisory committee coming, like you have it in BBS. I think the Program Director is under more constraint because they have to, he or she, has to then justify a decision contrary to what was recommended by the advisory committee. Does that answer your question or it took a long time? Yes?\r\n\r\n- The questions and the answers are under review no matter how answered. What safeguards are there versus submitting a proposal? That you might be able to not listen-\r\n\r\n- Well-\r\n\r\n- In a review process.\r\n\r\n- There aren't any. There aren't any. There is now a place to check on the front of the proposal, that whether or not it contains proprietary information, but it still has to be sent out for review. 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I think this is because that an investigator on the tour is pretty fast, and you try to get stuff done but before you, you know, you stand up at the meeting and talk about it. So, you know, there's a cagey way of operating. I won't use the term grantsmanship but you state a little bit of evidence then, if you have something that's really odd. So, I think because of that, then there hasn't been too much for the statement of why do this. Once a person, you know, reads something, well you can't really place that. So obviously, I mean, you can just think.\r\n\r\n- Do all Program Directors, do they have anything in common or different kinds of people? And they have influence on the national policy or-\r\n\r\n- Yep.\r\n\r\n- Or speaker events or-\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm a Director.\r\n\r\n- Well, all 50 that you have.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I'm sorry those were all of the Directors at the Foundation. Yes, they sure do. A lot of them are, you know, with the National Science-\r\n\r\n- Well, I wonder do they grill everyone else. And then if so, what kind of pinpoints on policy do they have, not policy ship, one or the other?\r\n\r\n- Well, you have this two-headed monster kind of thing. And this system has worked because in the past, if you had a strong Director, then the National Science Board tend to distort it back down and and not become a rubber stamp to go along. Whereas if you had a Lead Director, then the National Science Board became a rather leading, more aggressive, and that sort of balances then maintains. But I think that the, this yes, because it's this interaction of the Director and the National Science Board they're, this back and forth, they have to jointly set policy in motion into this country. You know, how the money is spent, that's the policy. I should point out the Director is head of the Executive Council and the Executive Council is made up of those Assistant Directors, who head up the Directors. And so he has that sort of backing for those, sort of, presidential appointees now. So, it's that group that interacts with the Board and comes up with this give and take. They're also the ones that interact with the committees, the congressional committees a lot.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. But, I wonder are there any good examples of a particular strong Director forcing through his policy, with you being pushed, begged for more money for this particular area?\r\n\r\n- I think because of the structure of the committees, that kind of thing doesn't, no person gains really. The situation is able to do that to it. I mean, they can do it to a certain extent but not way out of bounds. I think that one of the strongest person to do it was the most independent committee. I shouldn't use the word strong. But Bill McEloy, which was a Biologist before he became Director and he essentially told congressional committees to, you know, bug off . And of course the agency was smaller then, he could do a lot of that. So, perhaps you could say he was a strong Director to work, kind of, way back during that time. And he, in fact, he is to some policies that are open here, they were more on the operational foundation, not necessarily the scientific policies.\r\n\r\n- Well, it sounds like they have a pretty tough time pulling, getting funds in Washington. From what you say, maybe that's why it looks like a terrible practice for all of the Directors involving . Capable people come in and find out that what you wanted didn't go off somewhere or they can be stopped.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. The attendant I was, well, then I was on a Fellow Committee with is less simply because of my ability. Slaughter, and just as he had been an Assistant Director at NSF and just because of his work he was brought back as Director. At the executive appointments, you don't get your expenses stapled though to Washington. And so, Tom Slaughter rented a U-Haul in Portland and moved his family back to Washington as a presidential appointee. And he, prior to employing, I understood had financial problems. That's also was, well, the problem to a certain extent was Matt. I think that's why you have a lot of wealthy people in here who they can afford to be there. The people who are, depends upon what they earn, you know, they don't make a lot of money compared to what they could make at the time. Yes?\r\n\r\n- In the end, in this file, in this idea of Senate policy, okay? The NSF has a free range to grant and make grants. Whereas a lot of the other agencies give these block allocations, which are fixed for some sort of applied research, okay? So, the idea was that they would have a greater impact on basic research and therefore instead of basic science policy. Now, I think in my history exclusive, that is indeed what they end up doing because they have free range even though they have a very small amount of money that they give away compared to say, the DOD, the physical city, 5%, Wall. The money is given away for research and development, okay? And I was wondering whether, is there anything that can be done to bring more money back into the NSF? You know, away from these other agencies where they have this idea that says, like, contrary to what maybe Bush has in mind, okay-\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Well the way politics work, no, I don't think that would've happened.\r\n\r\n- No?\r\n\r\n- You see, what the NSF does, okay, if you're talking about the support of basic research and engineering with the review, peer review mechanism they use, then they actually respond to the community. Because this is the communities judgment of what's important. And they only fund proposals that come in, okay? So, if a part of it is a response, a part of it is, a part of what they do, like that the super computing, that will be stuck on appropriation. And there have been some ridiculous things that they've had to end up doing because of somebody standing up, and as the thing is going through the House or Senate is sticking on the amendment. And one of the things was, a few years ago, I think at the time there'd been a study on how much money was being spent on nutritional research. It turned out to be that the NIH was spending about $250 million on work that could be identified as a nutritional research. The USDA was spending an equivalent. As the NSF bill went through the House, somebody stood up and said, \"NSF ought to have a program in nutrition.\" So they put a million dollars. NSF had a million dollar program in the nutrition for which they had to hire a Program Director, they had to set up a whole mechanism of forums and an office, and this kind of thing. To spend a million dollars, it lasted, I think about one year and then of course there was some continuing commitments, so it had to be phased out in a certain period of time. So that's, I mean, that's one of the ways they find out what they have to do. 'Cause they have a real dilemma now on the education, in the area of spending money for education. You've got the last week signs because of the way that money has been appropriated. It will get to audit. It's going to go against the whole NSF system of using a review process. And it's going to be, it has the wording of a geographical distribution, a formula, kind of, of distribution of money for the states. That is purely the part, that is purely part of the political process of authorizations and appropriations. Now, I think another source of what they do for policy study is actually they've done by the National Science Board working with the Director, because there is always, there is this constant attempt to identify where we're going. They make five-year plans every year and they never use one of them. But anyway, so you identify problems, maybe super computing is a problem, okay? It certainly has been identified in the physics community because, Neal Lane, who was their Expedition Director is now transferred to Colorado. He is head of that committee. And so, their lobbying as it were, that committee was very effective because they got $40 million appropriated for the super computing. See, this is policy because, it's policy in the sense that it is now law that we will spend $40 million and just setting up super computers.\r\n\r\n- Well, I guess I was saying is some of the problem is where they don't. Whether it's the DOE and some of the other agencies that are cut back, being cutback, the people that are cut back somehow or other say, well, they go to the NSF for sport, okay? And of course, a lot of these don't fit in with the basic science approach in problem solving. It's very defined and-\r\n\r\n- Well-\r\n\r\n- Is there's some way that they could change? I don't know, maybe they would but they have nothing to do with science.\r\n\r\n- Well, you can't. I don't think you can take from one agency and give it to the other very easily, without a lot of great deal of political upheaval. And in fact, NSF, for example, can't support, they can't make grants with through federal labs because that money is appropriated. The congressional action will authorize to appropriate it. So NSF can't go in and raise their budget with federal money. So that's a sticky kind of thing. There is the case, and this is a narrow view on my part, but this is what happens. The NIH, quote, drops support of the plant sciences back in the 1967-'68 with Lyndon Johnson. Making statements and all. That created a tremendous pressure at the NSF in terms of number of proposals submitted and attempt to pick up these well-known investigators who had been caught off by NIH. This actually is, I think a lot of people might take credit for that confederate grants program with the USDA. But that actually was what led up to that competitive grants program that is now the USDA. But in a sense then, NSF has been involved in that kind of policy in another agency. Yes?\r\n\r\n- I think we know the reasons for an insurgence of interest in science education. Why did it drive all of this charge in the 1980s, other than change his administration? What was driving that? And what is the Science Foundation's feeling about the Education Director? Is it something that involved Janey or Greg Lauler or something?\r\n\r\n- No. Well, of course that was the policy. The doing away with this Education Director was political in the sense that Stockland said, \"That's it.\" And that's another way policy set is the point B sets it. But the market didn't give up. It's been resurrected. I think that everybody who dealt with the Education Director as it was then, well, maybe I'll just give you my personal thing. I personally feel that it's, because it was a mess, they had a bunch of ineffective programs. They really needed to rethink the whole damn thing. This they had to do. And it is emerging now with, I think, much stronger programs. The fellowship, the fellowship focus is very strong. And I think that what happened was good. It was one of those things. I don't think it was intended to happen that way, okay? I mean, he just wanted to cut it off from the pressures of the country prior as he was trying to identify the problem. So, it's really, it's good. But I think what happened is the Foundation in terms of the what's now called Science, Engineering, and Education was good. Because over in Windsor, Wisconsin was separate from the rest of the Foundation. It was a big old mess. Is there any other questions? Dr. Campbell will be available after the presentation if you'd like to stop down. At the lyceum as well as at the informal reception halls. Whatever the case, we express our appreciation for tonight's event. Thank you very much for coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36681/file/105850#t=0.0,1142.328"}]}]}]}