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Well we were talking with Fred Smith at the Ames lab in Ames Iowa on April 19th 2007. And just to start out maybe if you want to talk a little bit about your how you came to Ames and into work at Ames lab in the background there. Well I was in school at Xavier University in Cincinnati Ohio and I was majoring in chemistry and my thesis advisor. At that time was a Dr.. Harvey doobie who had worked on the Manhattan Project there in Ames. Oh. And when it came time to get a job he recommended that I apply out here to the Ames Laboratory. At Iowa State. So I did what year with them I was in 1951. That was April 1951. And we the twelfth phase they said I had a job. And I started work here in August 6 then 1951 as a junior chemist working in the metallurgy division working for Dr. Norm Carlson. He was the group leader. Aha. And. He worked for Dr. Harley Wilhelm. And of course everybody worked for Dr. Frank Sperry. Okay. Did you know about the work at the lab here before you applied for the job. I knew that. We I knew a little bit about that they had. A major part in the development of a cure mental process for making uranium 238 from which they get uranium 235 and that that process was taken over commercially and that they were doing they were doing that kind of work working with refractory metals and the various metals and that. Seemed fine with me. And then of course I look pretty good. I came from the city I love hunting and fishing and my wife we got married couple of months after after I started working here and she moved out from Cincinnati and been here ever since then haven't regretted it really. So I was a great place to look. It is yes and well I guess that started the professional career as a junior chemist third grade. How how did you get interested in chemistry two out of four they think that came from my high school chemistry teacher. He was a he was a stern old guy. He concentrator vacate type of minute structure above it it came pretty easy to me and I enjoyed it especially in the lab work. I enjoyed very much. And then when it came time to do when I graduate from high school I want to go into landscape architecture with the University of Cincinnati had no openings at that time. I went to Xavier University and decided to take chemistry it and worked out just fine. So you came here as a junior chemist and that's right. What were the what kinds of work were going on doing that. Well that's the first two or three weeks I sat in the library because my clearance my cue clearance had had come through yet and they had me looking up stuff and stuff I was working out had nothing to do with. What if you're a great victory. So lots of clearance came through. Then we we began. The work was classified thorium production was ongoing at that time and Wilhelm Hall on of all floors there was there was some operation going on. We weren't directly I didn't work directly on the thorium project I worked on the zirconium project and zirconium metal was of interest at that time as a modulator material for the nuclear powered submarine program. And they were trying to develop around zirconium corrosion resistant alloys which would be resistant to seawater. And we made a contribution in that area and we also developed a process for making zirconium metal. It was pretty well it was already developed when I came. But what we had to do was to make my first job was to set a set up a pilot plant for making zirconium fluoride zirconium fluoride is made from the ore which is zircon Sands. The ladies run around with zircon so sure after a while. And the beaches of Brazil and the beaches of Australia. There's a lot of zircon Sand Land around. And this is looks like regular sand but that is is of course the ore for zirconium. So that had to be. First busted up then and then we would go ahead and get the oxide from that or the oxide chloride and then make the fluoride out of that. Now the fluoride was used as a reactive material to make the zirconium metal. And this was done with a thermite process quite similar to the way uranium was made quite similar the way they were making for him metal at that time. So thorium was a classified project. This was a classified project. A lot of alloy studies with uranium and all these refractory and rare materials were ongoing. And these are all. In the very early development stage and very important to our country and very classified. So that's what we did was go ahead. Well I'm wondering what that was like to be a young chemist in your first job. I don't think I did. I'm sure it's exciting. The guys the thermite reductions I don't whether you're familiar with these or not the battle Valley these things when they go right to go very right but if they go very wrong they they there's usually an explosion. And these workers are always protected for and but. It's good cheap way of making it. And metals and it's a good way to get some of these refractory metals melts a very very high. It's a good way to to get them into a metallic form then you're going to refine them. But. But get them in the first metallic form that's sweet. That's where it's done. So there's this research as well as production. Yeah well mine was a mine was pretty it was research. But the forum was production until. The National led company took that over in nineteen fifty four national led out of my hand. Miami's burg near Cincinnati. And. The Zirconium work we developed to where we would make kilogram. Amounts. Of it. And it would work very well. And. We were in competition with the cruel process but the cruel process which was developed out of the bureau mines the government decided to put the money into that way of making zirconium and that became our nation's way of making zirconium metal for the whole nuclear power program nuclear submarine program. Our process which was the fluoride thermite process was used by the Canadians. They didn't want to pay the patent rights for the coal process so they used our process and they made some. Thousand pounds of zirconium that way. So our process was industrialize and I think that's one of the fun things is to see something that you do on a. Small laboratory scale and scale it up to an intermediate and then you see some industrial company take it on and the operation that you would do and on your lab you're in your small laboratory they do it a very large bill it just that one operation and of course they put all those operations together and then you have many large buildings see that quite of operation. And that's very exciting. And of course the the product of our laboratory is publications OK you you this is to get get the the project written up signed technically and reviewed by by your peers in the scientific community. And go ahead and get that into the literature. So it's the permanent word serially producing the knowledge that nobody else is using the event. And when we get to any size and usually the industry would be industry interested in it the government would be encourage the industry to to take it over given them probably a cost plus 10 percent type contract at that time which would be very good. This is how many of the refractory and rare earth metals were developed in the early 90s in the 1950s and 1960s. So the publication of course is a very rewarding thing because certainly as a youngster that's you didn't think of this very much but there's really a lot of satisfaction to see your work written up technically and reviewed by your your peers in the field and then entered into the into the permanent literature. I would because that would be around a long long time to get that information and the work that was being done here was it unique to to Ms lab. Yeah I think it certainly was. I think I've written the reputation for the laboratory and certain was developed on the early days of the Manhattan Project with Dr. spreading and Dr. Wilhelm's work and then Dr. Spelling's successful separation of the 17 rares using the ion exchange method that was is still the best way to separate them in the purest form. And so that that led to a lot of development and not only the preparation and purification of these metals but also studying their intention intrinsic and extrinsic properties and the effect of impurities on them. So if you find out just how how how good you have to make it in order to have. An application for it. And that held true then for the refractory metals and now that was also that was the area that I was in the zirconium and the sister element to that found in the zircon sands are. Metal. Half man. Half MIM etching AJ F and I u m and. In the nuclear world those two metals have completely different properties one is. Doesn't like neutrons the other windows so they use one as a as a structure which material. For. The the. Nuclear reactor in the submarine and then they are interested in the zirconium because they had to separate that out. Of. The half minute they had to separate from the zirconium. And that was used as a control rod so they had opposite the nuclear Neutron Capture properties but they really they had to separate because one used for one for one thing you would hurt the other for example. But then we got into making interim metal and that was in 1956 57 and that came about by the from the success of the nuclear reactor program. This models was the first first nuclear sub. And from that. The thinking was well let's make a nuclear powered airplane and something that could fly around the world six times limitation would be pilot fatigue and be nice. Well how about that time the Russians put up the Sputnik and the whole thinking on rocketry and supersonic aircraft changed. Well the nuclear powered sub. Aircraft had it would it would go maybe Mark one speed of sound or maybe a little faster. But. The advances in the jet aircraft and the rocketry left the nuclear power plant was left in the dust and it was it was big and bulky and what nation wanted a nuclear reactor flying over their country. I think it goes off that. Well anyway. Before all those decisions were made we were. Our job was to develop a process for making you Ethereum medals. And this is one of the rare earths and we did that and we did it on a small. There was about a kilogram of vitriol in existence at that time in the world in moral terms stocks and Doctor Spellings said yes sure we can make you thirty thousand pounds of that. So we developed the process in over a three year period. We did succeed in making that much and turn it over to industry and they they have the capability. So if the medal is ever needed the capabilities are there certainly so that medal is still inside existing. Yes it's been used for other things but not on a large scale. Of course when you separate the various out there's there's many many many uses nowadays for the rovers that need NMR and boron magnets these super magnets snickering tomorrow's come that's needed and that's a rare earth sister element patriots. Yeah they have the technology for making these is is all been developed and much of much everyone's. Lion share is done here at the lab by Dr Dany. Dr. Schneider Dr spreading. Of course guys like Bernie Beaudry Paul Palmer They were very very successful in doing this and then we went on to working on a other refractory metals titanium molybdenum tantalum vanadium vanadium was the big one. And we did develop a little methodical process for doing that. And I was in the early 60s and mid 60s and that was of interest as a as a cladding material and some nuanced energy systems. And this then became a very large scale commercial operation done by watching West Coast and. Is still used today as our nation's way of making the medium do you in. When that when these processes are being transferred from from a laboratory setting into industry how does that what happens and during that process did you when you get out there the government would get the patent. For the world. OK. But at that time. The inventors had absolutely got nothing. We got a dollar is that it raised a. Yeah sometimes we got that dollar time. And at that time. But there are times that we did that that dollar and those became government types and you sign off on that right from the beginning. Now in 1988 I think it was. The Buy Dole Bill. Passed the Congress I used it and became law and what that. Enabled inventors who worked at laboratories such as ours and they were able to share that they would of course get the patent but they could share and and knew any any moneys that would come out of. The patent were and. Royalties and things like that. But that didn't happen until 1988. How. Now that's that happened earlier. I'd be up on watching some place is that right. Yes just because we had some success. That's not the way it was. But after nineteen eighty eight. It's the whole thing changed. So were you ever did you ever visit some of the manufacturing of all your place I said you were in contact with them. Most of the time and they became your good friends and they would tell you what they what problems they were having and if you could help them much. That certainly was was all part of it. I never did any consulting for four for hire but. I think a lot of rapport and goodwill was established between industry and the Ames Laboratory as a result of. The interaction that we had. They're developing processes that we. We worked on. And. Our emphasis. So I'd say in the 60s when some of the terrific refining processes came in the 60s and 70s like electron beam melting and fruit zone melting and electric transport purification when those processes came in being then. The laboratory our laboratory became very pointed. On making ultra high purity materials many small amounts high purity. And then one industry. The point I'm trying to make is one industry would get request for purity is that they were unable to fulfill they would come back here and they would say well talk to these guys maybe they do. Well as a result of all that. In 1981. The administration and Department of Energy decided to establish a materials preparation center here at the Ames Laboratory. And in that sense. This was worked with Dr. Nola and Dr. Hansen was she Dr. Hansen was director at that time very supportive of all this. And we got a lot of support from Washington on it and we set that up and what the idea was the preparation center if this requester needed materials or alloys pure metals of. Certain types that they could not obtain from a commercial source. We didn't want to be in competition on industry and if they would sign a sheet of paper that said hey we cannot get this material this type and quality from commercial sources will you make it for us on a cost recovery basis. That was in essence the starting of the materials preparation center which is now celebrated as it's what 26 were in our 26 year. And. After the first year of the existence of that I was appointed director of the materials preparation center and served in that capacity until I retired. Then in nineteen ninety three. But we did analytical work and pure metals where all the errors were refractive as all the outlines and that's still an ongoing thing today all over the world. Is that right. Yes. It's been not only other universities other government institutions. Industry. International. You look at the list people that we take materials for standards for. Hyperion materials can be used for standards for. Analysis chemical analysis and world horse through World Health Organization's uses these these things. So those are those are what you would call feathers in our cap. Yes. Those are neat things. And of course you get in publications all along and then you get some patents after after 1988 gives you had a success and you can realize a. Little bit of that happened but we're still always working so hard to do that. Did that change things very dramatically to have the patent Yvonne available. Yeah. Well I think we've got some quaintly completely they work together better the little more secretive or what here at toy boats and the patent became a very important part. And at that time the government the ah well our sponsored agency and all of were all sponsoring agencies. At that time. It gave more. Credence to the patent than it was the open literature. Technical publication design patents were were put right up there with him with technical publications as far as professional accomplishments go. So. So that's that was that was the way where that all came about. And how was the. I'm just you know looking around here seeing these all look like classrooms and office buildings how did the production of these materials actually happen. OK. Well they're there in the laboratory. I could take you on a quick tour of what we have here. So they are mostly areas and they say the buildings are sort of built like. Whether they're cells that the rooms can be changed and they put up walls of makeup like an office like this or they can they can. When the buildings were first put up they were more open and some of those areas are still open and that's where the larger equipment is. And. Then they also have small clean areas that that specific types of research is going on. He adapted the outside. The inside as it could be an office that could be a laboratory or it could be a development area. And all the equipment and things like that were just put together as well as we needed. A lot of it was homemade in-house made microwave. Excellent always had had Dr. spelling and short of that from the very beginning is the laboratory that we had excellent excellent machine jobs and excellent facilities people. And that hasn't changed. We still we still have that strong capability and a lot of stuff had to be first time had to be made. Here. Of course now a lot of this stuff is as. And some of those things that were developed made in our shop became commercial available now. Many of the analytical and so much of many and some of the analytical instruments that are in production and again today like actually a couple of plasma atomic emission spectroscopy or. Mass inductive the coupled plasma Mass Effect on these analytical tools are still. Available are in production today by other companies but were developed nerve damage lab. Now of course a lot of the stuff is bought from outside because our nation is but you see up until about 8 1988 1990 computers weren't into this game not something down. And early on. Very some of the neat metals that we have materials that we have today. They were not available. OK. So some of there is some of the processing was pretty tough and didn't work out the way. And that's what we're doing now or going back and revisiting some of these things. And that's what I do the six months that I'm here during the during the wintertime. Look back at some of these processes that we had many years ago computer control in them and evaluate them evaluating them and seeing this what what we got and how to control make it twice the same way know the computer must have changed things. That's absolutely right. And that's that brings us to the kids today. The difference in staff. Between the the old staff which didn't have that quality people call him an extremely smart a lot of them were our group leaders most of more. Also at the University it's sure to join appointments the young staff of the staff at that time were there. They're very capable very talented people. The kids today of course was the computers. It's a completely different game. And the research has certainly changed. Considerably because not only because a lot of it was done already and completed but also there's new new new avenues to go down and do things to find the more sophisticated are the techniques of. The computer and the analysis and everything that comes all the technical assistance that we get we can look deeper and deeper into the material behavior behavior materials and and these will be good for mankind. Is the actual kind of experiment quite different way it was because of that the atmosphere out there. Very much so many of are on a very small scale. Because they can be evaluated on a small scale. That also gives people more control. On the large scale the. Other others problems could come up. You know you've got the large industrial hygiene you've got the Environmental Safety and Health. Problems but you have to address these things with each experiment. That was not as critical as. In times earlier on. Not that things were done slipshod there. But. Today it's. There's there's much more screening at the Environmental Safety and Health Health. And you're saying it was on a smaller scale in the old days and the tunnel. No I'd say the other way better I'd say be a little bigger scale the old one. OK. And. Now it's smaller the end. Well like there an example what I'm trying to say is that today they work with nanoparticles very very little fighting. But before they could get to that there had to be other things establish you had to have ways of making these materials and see the infancy as a lab in the 50s and 60s and 70s that's well was a big part of our contribution to be able to show and make these materials and how the hell I am and know what their properties are and how they alloy with other materials and get the best you can out of it. And of course you've got them in every case you've got the effects. You not only have. The the outgoing what happens when you Alloway with another medal but you also have to worry from the very beginning about the effect of common impurities cause common impurities sends it around as. They affect the qualities of these metals. So for some metals you can you can use a say a ninety nine percent quality some you could use a ninety six others you have to have maybe Ivory Soap type ninety nine and 44 or 100 so better much better. In fact in our pure program we would call Ivory Soap impure. It's very a nine point four four. That's that's starting with that the garbage offers and others as well. As far as quality goes you know some of these materials are extremely high for one of the things I think people might be curious about is just what the lab environment was like. What did people wear. How did the. Well that's the fairly on the. The technical people or just Rea group. Comfortable clothing. The group leaders most of them all wore shirts and ties jackets. The technicians they had clothing furnished. Course. People. Like myself. We had lab coats furnished. OK. And of course all the safety equipment that you needed. And. As far as. Ventilation and everything it was pretty good for the time. I mean they they were they were aware of some of the toxic properties that metals metals can have beryllium was one that we learned a hard lesson there was laboratory our people were exposed to that before they found out that it was toxic and these things are being addressed today by a workers program. Yes I'd been reading about that. And that's and it's great. The government is doing that because there was that was something that came out of the war effort and it was a World War Two hours and it cut a lot of technical people by surprise reappearance. We just they just didn't know that it was that noxious. I talked with Virginia Allison yesterday. So I've heard a little story about this. I worked for him for. For what. How many years that I worked for it must be 25 30. Twenty face fireman good friends personal friends. A lot of hunting together huh. Yeah. Good golf. Golf and everything. We had a lot of stuff. I would like to hear his side of my personality and Dave Peterson primo Quixote. I've already mentioned Danny Snyder. Jack Smith. These are all. We're all great. Mentors and nerves in their own areas and terrific people to work with. What was the what were the relationships like with the people working on these projects. Well well I saw some of those close relation others who they I imagine they all had their own little group metallurgists. We had we had guys that we work with them all week and we hung out. Together on Saturdays. Or. The duck club came together. With the Navy we hear all of the story that did all that. So we we enjoyed each cup each other's company here at the laboratory but we also enjoyed each other's company socially. But there was always a unwritten rule that work was work and play was played and we did it that way. And was the work did it do it all happened during regular work hours. Well no it's not many. Much of the technical staff that was our job. But the group leaders in this and the scientific staff that time is not. It was an eight to five job search. In the very beginning we worked on Saturday mornings to read to 12:00. It was a 44 hour week in the beginning but then that changed. And there was a 50s or 60s. And so I went back to a 40 hour week. But it's it's something that that the idea was to get the job done. And I think Dr. Hansen set it right. You said. You worked Saturday morning and if you if you need to in order to get the job done. I mean to get your job done for the time and so you get it. It's pretty simple. Yeah. And you're paid by the. Office the technical people work. Well I retired as was salaried. So the hours part is just the idea get the job done. And how many technical people were involved in this payroll. Well let's just take a number. Say there's 100 people in the division. I guess there would be maybe 20 25 active technical. I'd say that would be about a third quarter to say that this is roughly about the top. And then the rest would be there'd be an excess there'd be a mix of. Full time scientific group leaders grad students. Undergrad students as ours. I had eighty five undergrad students during my. Myers 43 years in the lab. Before I retired in 93 and then out of those 85. OK. Eighty five percent of them went on to advanced degrees. Now that's because they worked in the laboratory as undergraduates. They loved the. They saw what kind of people I really believe that worked in in the field. They knew it was the type of stuff they wanted to do and they went on for advanced degrees either here at Iowa State or. At other institutions. So we're sort of proud of that. I bet I bet 85 percent of 85 is pretty good pretty good pretty good no doubts of years we had the Suns three we had the Suns go through as hourly employees and earth yeah the guy went through as an hourly employee that his son had three cases their sons came and were in our group. As our focus and great last day. And that was sort of a fun thing. I bet. And then they went on they would not just stay in. But that's what happens when they work on price for that over time. And that type of repeat can do. Now I know when I first read about the work at the lab in the Manhattan Project in particular was a big surprise to me. Although I had grown up the names and and even knew about the the reactor at the time in the 50s it particularly didn't down the people in the community know much about the work that was going on all about you. You never knew you didn't. I was classified so that you know this was not to be discussed as much discussing among yourselves with other people that had the clearance. But no I was I was not so was that it was a challenging not to be able to talk about what you were doing or I don't I don't think so. The people wanted an answer because they thought oh we got something else going out there like the Manhattan Project. But. They they normally wouldn't press it and you could always give them some ridiculous answer you know. And they knew the jury fluffing them off and they wouldn't ask any more questions. So yeah I thought it was just something that you then you didn't mention didn't you. And then did that. That changed at some point. Yeah. So that you've got declassified now. Yes. I'd say in the 60s. Only that but I think it was the 60s when things began to really get declassified. And then see sometimes some of the stuff we didn't pack and we didn't publish until after it was declassified. So some of the stuff that we would probably say in 1956 we did really in 1951 but it was still classified. So when it became unclassified then you could slip out with your partner or your publications Ha ha ha ha. And then it did. Did people. Then once it was declassified was that kind of a non-event or did people in the community realize you read the papers really publications you the technical public aren't they. They wanted to be as open merger but there. There wasn't. Oh every 12 hours there's something that comes through that that gets a lot of publicity. One of the reasons we helped the Navy was housing and was having a tremendous problem casting the L.A. nickel titanium. OK. Well nickel titanium is a memory alloy so if you have a wire of it and you hold it out and I'd bend it around and I had I shaped the words Sue Susan. OK. And then I heated to a certain temperature and cool it down I pulled it out straight OK. And then it up again it forms were Susan really. OK. Now they use this at Iowa. University the University of Iowa in their dental college down there as a as a memory alloy for the teeth. How. They do that. They they put they put it around your teeth and and the way it should be and they give you some hot soup and it it goes back to them and puts a stress on your teeth and get them all lined up. Interesting. Yeah well the weight is the metal the nickel titanium titanium. The Navy was having at the Naval ordnance Webb back and these close not full time getting this alloy melted up consistently. And. They call I was of a you called called us. It was a big duck soup for us. We know exactly how to do it. So we did that. And Senator Obama they're elated and. Company out in California took it over as a commercial process and is used today for me so that my dad made a little splash and then it's a verb. Yeah yeah yeah. The morning paper got all over that one. How have the. So some some of the materials you were working with were radioactive or toxic and some some were not. That's right. That's right. How have the practices with that changed over. Well it's certainly they've improved. I think they've improved. With better equipment. Okay they improved with. I think better management but certainly the means of detecting has as was a big part of that improvement. In other words I don't think there was negligence on any of it. And any any size as we always had all the protective equipment. That we wanted and we had the best there wasn't that was available at that time. OK. But what's happened since then is we have gotten better material better equipment. We've got better ways of detecting air quality and these have been applied very effectively. So I think certainly the workplaces is a cleaner workplace today than it was many years ago. But still I don't think it was it was something. That. I don't think there is negligence in that in any way I think it was all a matter of the technology for those things at that time was not as good as it is today. And they applied the best ahead and that's that's. That's all they have. Some things obviously have swept through the cracks but. It was done that way. And there's been quite a bit of cleanup and work I know on at the reactor with all these things are brought back to as near perfect as humanly possible. The reactor cleanup and of course the Wilhelm Hall certainly has been taken care of. All the details about I don't know. That. That's that's that's true and will impose where the thorium production was but. And as these materials come through and alloys develop people are cautious so that nobody gets caught again. You might say oh I'm just looking at my questions here. What are the things you. Feel. What's the craziest thing that ever happened during the time that you were working here are the funniest man. That's a tough one isn't it. It has all these tricks being played on people all the time. There is an h h h what generation each decade seems to have their own their own. Ways of ways of doing things and seeing the world. I don't know. I. Think it's the nature of the work is fairly serious and. That doesn't mean there isn't humor. Good fellowship in fact the fellowship is just it's a family type type thing and there is it's there's a real bond and a real closeness. People in this building would do it but the humorous side of it I think it's just shots and giving each of the shots and and going on with the daily work and totally enjoying it. And you know there's no one that's really gets defensive. I mean we don't the people are not that way. I know in other workplaces there are people who are very defensive. It seems like in the scientific community that's that's a that's a minimum a minimum. That's that's been my observation. I just can't think of any. The funny thing is I mean there's there's there's I'm sure there's there's no work was there were there a situation that was a big surprise. Something that happened that was very different than what you expected. In the process or. Well I say that is that that is an ongoing thing. As we do our work our research and development of these materials. One question that you always ask and you see an effective sampling is why you are continually asking why why did this happen. Because this will give you understand that then a lot of times I will allow you to go on to something else. That's just part of the scientific process and these things I think are surprises and some of the surprises are. Or have led to other other. Successes. There's no question about it. And something that happens different is what you're really after. And. As Einstein said the definition of a fool as a person that does the same experiment over and over and over and over again expects a different result. Well if you do it the same way each time you saw expects the same result. But no in the science end of it you're you're always looking for that subject so little that I give you that lead. Why did this happen. Then you can build on that a block building block situation. Anything that stands out is here. The most the thing you're the proudest of or I think it's the people. It's a people a quality of people. It's a combination. It's the quality of people. They're. Educated they're concerning there. They're. Quick to help. It's it's. Definitely the people are the. Are. The biggest thing. And that makes for a terrific work department. It really does. Yes it does. It does. And. I'm not I'm talking from janitorial force right. I mean it's it's it's yeah it's a good relation good people and good works come from that yeah. Good works. Come Easy. You're proud of women and time just flies. I've been here now 55 years and the. As just part time courses since 1993 when I retired. But it's still. It's still the same. As far as the quality of the people terrific still exciting. Oh yeah. Is this. Oh that's great. People with shit your head and say why are you doing this. Yeah well this fight really is a good time. And it's fun to work with the people cause now no administrative responsibilities helps to you do the fun stuff. So what kinds of things are you working on I say. Yeah. Just the fun part. About the same we're applying new technology to some of the old school old processes to the new materials that are of interest. And. When that happens this usually hopefully makes it for more efficient efficiency. Efficiency uses usually leads to better economics. And. That's the name of the game economics. Oh yeah. And do you still see new students coming in. Boy they're excited about that. Oh yeah yeah. Chemistry Oh. Yeah. They're. Very much so and good brunch. Good good kids. They they are quick to learn by computer skills are not what they what they were in the class that they are and 10 year olds they are then they are no help at all. And in reciprocation like any the time that I can help them arise if I see either they're making a. They're going down a path that's already been gone you know. Even. Though I had no teaching responsibilities with them. I. Am. Well that's that's been done or you know it's you might want to look this up or something. Yeah and they are they're appreciative of that too because their time is is by. But now it's a good much good bunch of kids. Well any anything I haven't asked you about that you wanted to to be sure and talked about any particular memories or stories. No I think that there's things that that I guess when you're when you work with people like I worked pretty close with Dr. Wow. And Dr.. CARLSON And Dr. Petersen and Dr. acuity and these guys were. Were. Excellent scientists actual teachers many grad students all over the world country in foreign countries. Terrific terrific teachers. And I guess that. As you get older you think about that. Because they had me by 10 years maybe 15. Dr. Nick. No more. But when you get older. You realize that these guys were your mentors and you realize that. They really really were in the game. You know you're a pretty smart guys and. They were in the game and. They can be very proud that you worked with them and that you knew that you know that. I think this is a great reward. And. Of course I a lot of support from my wife Gretchen. We had four kids and they also run a whole splinter Iowa State and. It Home the sport support on the home front as those has always been terrific. And as a result group that's made it easier. She. She took care of so much when I was out here enjoying myself I guess as a way to say you know not everybody can say bad about their work. No no no I've got the I have no regrets and I'm very proud of. The time and especially the people and the people. And that's an ongoing thing. People who are in science they they're one thing they are as honest very honest and wholesome you need dishonesty in science just doesn't work that those two. I mean it may not work in business or something but it doesn't work in science. And that's just a matter when you're gonna get caught and when you catch her out. Okay. So honesty and Sciences is go hand-in-hand. And if you work with people every day that you know are totally honest and they're they're friendly and congenial. And. Supportive heart and environment to be yeah. Yeah that's true. Well I was going to ask you just a little more as you're talking about what it was like to work with Dr. William and Dr. Spencer L.. Dr. spending. I did not. Well I will be truthful to all of us. If my boss was gone a doctor spreading called me over to his office I experienced and I trembled all the way over. OK I found out that every group leader who got that kind of recall also trampled on their way over night or what it was about the secretary would call but he was a very very supportive man and always on your side. And he might tell you exactly how how you might have done it better but on the outside it was it was the way it was. And that was a humorous thing that happened I could tell you that. Do we have time. Sure. Yeah. I'm just keeping an eye on this to make sure but we've got plenty of time. When my boss was Dr. Carlson was gone and. On vacation or someplace a doctor spending called Ice secretary call could you come over. So in my in my shaking shoes I went over and. He has his feet up on his desk and he's always had a cigar in his mouth. He did have a shoes on but he had a suit on and he said Rickey said Los Alamos once a single crystal urban and. You think you guys can make it. And we had just developed a new technique called Hard zone melting technique that technically if metal didn't have a transformation we could make these crystals very quickly the size of your fingers it'd be pretty good. And we knew this metal Irving didn't didn't have a transformation as yet. We could try it is a once you go over and try it. So we did it the next day or so we'd put everything together made it and sure enough we got a nice big crystal. I took it over a tree and was about three or four inches long and half inch in diameter. And he looked at and he says x rated it out actually and everything looks pretty good. It's could could use an anomaly but the chin so far was very cold. Back to Los Alamos. It was the director one of his guys he knew who wanted this and the you know it did take us very long to make this. And after spreading it is his way. Guy was trying to find out how much this was going to cost him. The guy needed a couple square millimeters and larger space. I thought maybe ten thousand helps you better. But I want to put that in there. You can edit this later she decided to do. That's right. That's what I set. And they had. No. Idea and sold them for that. Down with Hereford so it's you know it's just the way business was that because you haven't nobody else in the world had. Yep. Maybe did it and we needed the money properly. Yeah but that's what we're probably at it for now. But anyway. They were it was that it was that kind of stuff. But Dr. spelling was a. It wasn't a disciplinary. He was just a man. Everybody totally totally respected Dr. Wilhelm. He was. He was he was a very personable guy just called a man. Absolute calling that started playing golf why a sixty five took up the accordion. Later he sit right down and mastered them both. He was pretty tough on a golf course but terrific terrific night. The. One of the experience one of the guys was you were down in the basement of Wilhelm the phone rang and this kid answered the phone. Dr. Williams said this is Wilhelm and kid. This came out later. The kid hesitates before. Well this is the lone ranger because he was absolutely confident the doctor will all very well to that position without ever call him up. He thought it was one of his buddies making a.. A joke. But Dr. Wilhelm didn't get flustered and just. Thought the kid realized what was going. Haywire. Here again called a man and certainly an icon in his mind. He was well respected. Both of them were well respected and always a gentleman and professionally. Well it's quite some I think many people don't don't realize really the implications of the work that goes on here and quite how significant it is. Well the. I think then when I retired they put on my retirement block. I'd been director of the materials preparations and they comment on it. And as far as the Department of Energy goes the materials preparation center has and always will be a gem in the crown. Laboratory. Because it's the materials of high quality mean that good science is done with them. And these are gone throughout the world and they go from scientists to scientists so they can work on the same material. Oh is that right. Terror. Around the world and stuff comes back and we have a excellent numbering system on all of our materials so we can trace a maven without a computer and just a matter of a minute or two. It's really so you know where they've gone and we are aware that we know they gave us a number. We can tell them exactly how that's B probably within three or four minutes. And I'm talking about something that was made in the last six years. That's amazing and it's so simple. That's amazing. Now we have. Logbooks and that was always a big part of our profession. Your experiments were written up and you dated those and you signed every page. That's just that's how the data was kept as the permanent record. And then from that data comes your. Your. Patent work. Or. Your patent or your. Obligation. Yeah. But the law book is an important part of it and everyone has those and the logs of the preparations and all the preparations are in a book. And each book is numbered in each book has 300 pages in it. So you assign those page numbers and book number to the preparation. So you just need to know the number and you get the right book look at the right page. You have holes a whole thing. About. That. So there are materials that start here and and they're all. How many times my thing. Well it does their letter my study see if it's a destructive analysis of course materials. It's as if it's a destruct used in a destructive experiment. Then the sample can either be contaminated or can be consumed dissolved or vaporized or or alloys or something. Well then then you can't use it. But the physicists are notorious for the snake. They measure things and they have not just that they make non-destructive measurements. You know if you would weigh it or you would you would have. Looked at it microscopically or something you know or measure all kinds electronic properties or physical properties. All right. And these samples can go from scientist to scientist and scientists for years and some of our samples. And. We see it because we get that we usually give us a ay ay either a reference to our work locations or they'll put us in their acknowledgement. So you might not even know they don't want other things they just know where it's come from. And I'm sure they copy the acknowledgement from the other guy that used it before but that's that's how that's how they. That's how they give us the. Recognition. And that's so important because we can use that to to help us. And then someone asked Well what do you guys really do. That's amazing. Something I never said I would never have thought of. Yeah there's something something you can keep track of. And you keep track of it. And these guys this is the other thing that's that's amazing as you talk to these guys on the phone and you and you correspond with them was now with e-mail on and with fax and phone and everything and. You go through your whole life and never meet him because and that's holds true especially for the foreign your foreign contacts. But also one of the neat things is that you go to your professional meetings and this guy will look you up and he'll come up and he'll talk to you and you can shut your eyes and hear him on the telephone. And adds you. He doesn't look anything like. A. Once you get a picture that is completely different and that the voices. Of course you've been friends for years say you just haven't seen it. Yeah but that goes on in science or even all of that yeah. Yeah. Well that must be a whole interesting dimension to it to know that your material is gone all. Oiled and there's a lot of pride and pride. And we get a lot of acknowledgement for. This way. I think it makes the whole science the science that these people do to have good materials science is going to be better. Well thank you so much for the time and taking the time lords but my pleasure. And. If. That bit about Dr. Sperry recall we should put that in there. That's fine but we can't give you a hand but a little bit of a scope maybe as to as to. What a fine person. Well respected. Well I'm sure that there are probably hundreds of stories about him. He had some to some of the men that are. Which might be able to talk to her who were closer with some like Dr. Powell. Some of these other people. I'm hoping I will be able to speak with him. He's a doctor in fact policy. He worked very closely with spending very public better than anybody. But a lot of the old timers of the past. Well I kind of wish someone had done this ten years ago. Yeah yeah that would help. Yeah. Could have gotten a little more detail. Yeah. But. Ray Fisher and Jack Bauer and I will talk with Ray Fisher. Well he'll give you a hint give you some way back stuff. But. I just think the other day. Who else would be there to help you would get back into the 40s. But that would be Ray Fisher. Jack Powell. Jack Smith and Dr. Jack Smith. That's why I don't hand still around he's here in his own state. Yeah. And he's. His name's he was a World War to vet. A fighter pilot. Maybe I wrote a book about. His battles with the war. Excellent excellent. The scientists call man man be interesting to talk for he sounds like it. Yes. I'd say Jack Bauer Jack Smith and Ray Fisher. Boy I tell you I don't know anybody else from that area. Well if you if you think of another person or if you think of a story you wish you had said or something. I am. 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