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I plan that we will finish very close to 9:15 p.m tonight following essentially the same plan that we started with at our last meeting. Before we start, I would like to say that this session is being recorded and the plan is that it may be used in part on the radio. In any case, it will be recorded on tapes and copy will put in the library for people to listen to. It says here, unlimited reproductions may be made for the public for educational purposes by the media resources center. So we are going to record this and we are gonna make it available to those others who would like to listen. To protect the station, the radio station, I guess or the media resources people, there is a memorandum of understanding what you agreed to be recorded and have your voice possibly put on the air. And I would like those who speak up, if they will, to pick up one of these forms. And where's Dave, where's the gentleman that has these? Oh here, in the corner. Would you please do that? I'm telling you that we're going to record it but I would make them feel more comfortable if you would sign one of these and give it to them. Now, the format last time was, Professor Elrod who is chairman of the philosophy department, introduced the seminar. He said what the purpose of the seminar was, what the hopes of our participants were, and then a member of the philosophy department spent between 10 and 15 minutes to introduce the issues for the day. Now, today, the issues, the title about the research on the effects of nerve gas, I believe is the title of this session.\r\n\r\n- The ethics.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, the ethics of research on nerve gas is that what is with nerve gas, research with nerve gas. And Dr. William Robinson, who is a member of the department of philosophy, is going to make the first presentation presenting the issues. So I'd like to turn the microphone over to Dr. Robinson first.\r\n\r\n- In our previous seminar in February, there appeared to be a very large measure of agreement on two points. First, the classified research should not be done at ISU at least in normal times. And second, that the department of defense has funded many projects which are perfectly benign and raise no moral issues. Unfortunately, there lies between these points of agreement another issue which was not resolved at the February meeting, indeed, it was hardly focused upon at all. Professor Elrod called attention to it in his closing remarks. It is the issue of whether there could be any research project that would be unethical for an ISU researcher to undertake even though its results were not classified. The current interest in Professor Kenan's research proposal stems from the fact that it appears, to some, to be a case of exactly this kind. Whether it is or not, is as I can see matters the question to which we are to direct ourselves this evening. What I shall do in these opening remarks is to try to set out the main arguments on each side of the issue. Before proceeding to the main question however, it seems necessary to speak to those who think that we should not be discussing it. The position of these people, is that no one has an absolute grasp of moral truth. No one who lacks an absolute grasp of moral truth is entitled to interfere in significant ways in the lives of other people, turning down a research project is significant interference. Therefore, no one is entitled to turn down on moral grounds, a project that a researcher can get funding for. The natural extension of this position is that our seminar tonight ought to be considered a waste of time. Since even if most people became convinced that Professor Kenan's proposal is unethical, it would be unethical for anything to do anything to prevent him from carrying on with it. The position which opposes this view, denies that certainty is required for responsible that is morally allowable action. It offers the reductio argument that if people were morally required to have certainty about ethical matters before acting, no one could be morally required to do anything of much consequence. It holds that failure to act because of fear of making a mistake is a craven position as well as being, it's of unethical. It holds what is required for responsible ethical action is being informed and disinterested not being superhumanly perfect, omniscient or infallible. Some people who might accept this point in general way may never look the last thing that it cannot be given practical application in our university context. They may think that disinterested and informed people cannot be found or that no one would have the gall to set him or herself up as worthy to pass on other people's research proposals. This however is a very peculiar argument to make at this institution. For in fact, we already have a committee which passes on the ethics of research proposals. Admittedly, this committee is a little unusual. It has just one member, that member's title is vice president for research. The fact that he has not recently or perhaps ever turned a proposal down on ethical grounds doesn't show that he can't do so. It shows only that no one has proposed to anything which regards as unethical. I don't think there's any doubt that if something came across his desk, which he rejected on ethical grounds, he could make his decision stick. One can easily imagine what would happen to a proposal from the sociology department to operate a bordello so they could do research on the habits of the customers. As far as I know, drawing the line at classified research is his decision. The fact that this line is widely agreed to, doesn't show that it's not an expression of the power of the vice-president for research to make ethical decisions. Finally, Vice President Zaffarano evidently believes that he would be acting legitimately in turning down the project on ethical grounds. I say this because he expressed a hope for some ethical advice in the graduate faculty meeting on February 18th last. I think we should proceed to the issue at hand and try to generate some of the ethical advice for which he has asked. So on with it, we had better remind ourselves of what the proposal we are to discuss tonight actually is. Professor Kenan wants to develop a device which can detect very small changes in the behavior of animals. Briefly, this is to be done by scanning the behavior and then getting a computer to process the information supplied by the scanner. To perfect the detection of differences in behavior, you need to know when the animal you are scanning is likely to be undergoing some behavior changes. For this purpose, you have to give it some chemical which is known to affect behavior. Some pollutants affect behavior, Professor Kenan tried therefore, to get the EPA to fund his project. Some pesticides also affect behavior, Professor Kenan, thus tried the department of agriculture. These agencies had no money. A class of chemicals which includes nerve gases also affects behavior. Professor Kenan applied lastly to the department of defense. The current proposal is that he will use these latter agents in his research. This description of Professor Kenan's proposal makes it pretty obvious what the main case is for saying that it is ethically unproblematic and should be allowed to go forward. The argument would be, that the use of nerve gases is really quite incidental to the project. Any behavior-affecting chemical would do, it's just that it's the DOD that has the money. One could even say that chemicals, that the chemicals are not even being used as nerve gases but only as behavior-changing agents. Now, if there would be no objection to the project if pesticides were used, and I think it's clear that they would not be, how can there be any objection when what is being done is in all essential respects the same thing? That's case four. There is, however, another way of reading the fact that the type of behavior-changing agent used is incidental to the essence of Professor Kenan's project. One could regard this factor showing that researchers will make changes in their proposals just to get DOD money. Someone holding this view would think that if there were otherwise innocent research which required the use of nerve gases, then the fact that the DOD would be willing to pay for it would be no obstacle. For the person holding this view, it is exactly the fact that the nerve gases are in the proposal just to get the DOD money that makes their use problematic. This position takes on more force when combined with the worry that it will often be the case that the DOD will be the agency with the money. Professor Kenan's project may then come to look like the beginning of a slippery slope, i.e the first in a series of cases in which the DOD uses its monetary power to influence what research has done in the university. The mention of a slippery slope arguments gives me an opportunity to make a point which I think we must all carefully observe if we are to make any progress. I said earlier that Professor Kenan's proposal has become controversial because it looks like a case of research that is unethical even though it is unclassified. Now, of course, even if we decide that this project is not unethical, that doesn't show that there might not be other projects which are unethical even though unclassified. There may be some temptation to argue against the present project as a way of trying to make sure that other conceivable future projects will not be undertaken at ISU. It is a temptation which we should avoid however. You cannot argue that one project should not be done just because then a different one might be done. That assumes that those who pass on projects will not be able to tell the difference between an innocent present project and an unethical future one. Clearly no one who was not already persuaded will accept an argument which assumes that. And certainly such arguments are worthless to those who are seeking ethical advice. Plus I think that opponents of Professor Kenan's project should try as far as possible to show why this project is unethical. It seems to me that the key argument of this kind begins with the premise that warfare with the use of nerve gases is wicked. To apply this premise, you need another one namely, that Professor Kenan's project will make warfare using nerve gas, more likely to happen. Here, however, things get sticky. Some will say that if our military knows more about nerve gas and can detect its effects in small amounts, it will get to feeling confident about its ability to control this weapon, and that will make it more willing to venture its use. Opponents of this view are likely to argue that on the contrary, if we are unable to use this weapon our enemies will be all the more likely to use it against us or our allies. It will be difficult to establish facts here. At some point, it may become a decisive question how much Professor Kenan's project might help our military gain control of or confidence with nerve gas as a weapon. When matters get as difficult as they are likely to become in the discussion of these points, someone may suggest, that we might as well do the research here because if we do not, someone else will. But I'd like to urge that we not bother to evaluate the likelihood that this suggestion is true. If other people are willing to do bad things that doesn't mean we should. Further our taking a stand, might inspire others to do likewise. Finally, what if Professor Kenan's project is after all really ethically okay? We ought to say so straight out and not let people go away with the impression that it's really not okay but just no worse than what all the other crop people are doing. There was one approach to our topic, which I have not heard anyone use but which would be interesting and valuable. This is to state and defend a principle which would draw the line between what is ethically acceptable and what is not in some way other than the division between unclassified and classified research. For example, someone might hold that it would be unethical for the university to harbor research designed to develop a weapon, whether or not this research was classified. This approach is in some ways more difficult than others I've noted, but it would be more worthwhile if possible. In the foregoing, I've tried to give a clear expression to what I take to be the main considerations that cause people to lean to one side or the other on the issue at hand. It's too much to expect that I've got them all or that my review will make our discussion very much easier. I do hope however, that I have saved us from spending our time on some unproductive lines of argumentation. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I'd like now to call upon one of the good Samaritans of AMES, who, according to tonight's paper, was looking for a good Samaritan to provide a new home, and he tells me he already has found at least a hint of a good Samaritan who is going to help him. I'd like to call on Tom Cordero who, will talk and, on one side of this question.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. To begin with, if anyone does have a house that they'd like to get rid of I'd be more than willing to take it off your hand, and also for those of you, members of the press I have made copies of all of the comments that I'm going to make so that you can get them that would avoid any misprint or misunderstanding about what I was saying. To begin with, in order to understand, I think the ethical ramifications of any act one needs to place that act into its proper context. For example, we might ask the question, is it wrong to dig a well to get water? Well, certainly from looking at the act alone one would have a hard time arguing against it. But if, for instance that well we're tapped into a scarce water source or if the water were used for superfluous reasons, the act would take on a new meaning. In the same way then, in order to understand the ethical ramifications of the nerve gas research at Iowa state, one must place the research into its proper historical, political and social context. In other words, we cannot look at this research as an isolated act. And I think the best chance of this kind of thorough examination occurring has to be here at the university, because the whole concept of university as opposed to various colleges, is the whole notion of integration. The university represents our firm belief that although we busy ourselves with dividing reality into little parts so we can better study it and understand it, then in fact, those divisions do not exist. One of the roles of the university is to pass on to students and to society in general, an understanding that all the various disciplines are interconnected and interrelated. In other words, the world is not divided up into neat little categories of physical sciences and social sciences. Therefore, a successful analysis of the nerve gas research being proposed and being done already here, depends on our ability to widen our scope of vision not to narrow it. Tonight, what I would like to do, is spend some time looking at the political ramifications of the nerve gas research, and then I'd like to close by looking at some of the psychological and social ramifications of doing this research here on this campus and the effects on this research community. To begin with, we need to take a look at the historical evolution of chemical warfare, the present situation regarding chemical weapons development and how the nerve gas research here at Iowa state fits into that. After World War I, the Geneva conference of 1925 outlawed quote \"all asphyxiating poisonous and other gases.\" And even though the United States signed that treaty it was not ratified until 50 years later in 1975. And during this time the U.S. policy in regards to the use of chemical weapons fluctuated between two poles. On one pole we had Roosevelt statement of no first use in 1943, and on the other pole we had, the Pentagon's refusal to endorse a similarly-worded declaration in 1960. For instance, in the army field manual FM 104101-40 we read I quote, \"the U.S. is not party to any treaty now in force that prohibits or restricts the use in warfare of toxic and non-toxic gases\" unquote. Of course the big breakthrough came about in 1975 when Nixon and Brezhnev agreed in principle to begin negotiations on chemical weapons ban. And as early as 1977, the Geneva committee began drafting a final document. In 1980, Professor Matthew Meselson, biochemistry at Harvard and Julian Perry Robinson, center for international affairs at Harvard, wrote in Scientific America, and I quote, \"the policy of the United States regarding chemical weapons appears to be nearing the crossroad. If a satisfactory treaty is obtained there will be chemical disarmament. Otherwise the U.S. may decide to go ahead with the production of new chemical weapons, unless current negotiations in Geneva succeed in prohibiting the development, production and stockpiling of chemical weapons, a new and more dangerous phase of the arms race may take place,\" unquote. Recent allegations of Soviet use of chemical weapons in Afghanistan and Southeast Asia, have provided the political atmosphere whereby President Reagan could put off treaty negotiations and begin a major chemical arms buildup. The Pentagon plans to commit $1.5 billion to give the United States the capability to withstand chemical attacks and conduct operations in toxic environments by the mid eighties. And the Reagan administration plans to appropriate money to build $170 million binary nerve gas plant in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. The weapons built at this plant will cost somewhere between three and $4 billion. This is taking place even though there is no evidence that the Soviet Union has added new chemical weapons to their stockpile in over a decade. The U.S. is now involved in the largest commitment to chemical warfare fighting capabilities since World War II. And it is in this context, that we need to look at the nerve gas research at Iowa state. Now, many people try and tell us that ISU is first of all, not doing nerve gas research but anticholinesterase research or organophosphate research. And that the research will benefit Iowa farmers and also help people suffering from diseases of the nervous system. I think two things need to be discussed in this regard. First, we need to clarify the purposes of military research. And secondly, we need to talk about the use of language and particularly the use of language in the military. One elementary fact that seems to have alluded many people is that the military does, sponsors and funds research for military purposes. Let me repeat that. The military funds research for military purposes. As Stanton Glantz and Norm Albers of Stanford university wrote in Science Magazine, and I quote, \"the DOD makes a very thorough effort to ensure funding research projects directly relevant to the military's technological needs,\" unquote. And what are the military's technological needs? To be prepared for and to fight in wars. And even though there may be some secondary non-military function or objectives to these research projects, they are not the primary research objectives. Military funding of research dictates that military purposes will be the primary focus of the research. In regards to the second point about the use of language, I think we can note that the military is very creative in its way, it uses language. For instance, in military jargon, the enemy is not killed, they are neutralized. One does not invade a country, one makes an incursion. One does not bomb a city, one makes a surgical strike and after World War II, the department of war was suddenly transformed into the department of defense. And of course I assure you it does not do nerve gas research only organophosphate research. Now, on the military side of this research, we are told, first of all that the research being done here is strictly defensive. And secondly, that it is vital to our national interests. I'd like to take a little closer look at both of these claims. Dr. VanMeter's research, which has been going on for almost two years and I'll be speaking of his research also, is a systematic analysis of special nerve cells after they have been exposed to DFP, soman and sarin. A DFP which is available commercially will be used to test the research model so that soman and sarin, the primary agents of the research nerve gases, can be studied. And Dr. VanMeter will also be studying the effects of antidotal therapy on these cells. As a result, the military will have a better understanding of how nerve gas kills its victims, and they will know more about how well the existing antidotes work. Dr. Kenan's proposal involves the study of behavioral changes in mice, under three sets of conditions. First, after exposure to nerve gas. Secondly, after exposure to nerve gas, after preceded by an application of existing antidotes and thirdly repeating the first two conditions when the mice are placed under stress. The military is interested in this research in order to better understand how soldiers will or could respond while engaging in chemical warfare. It's important to realize, as Elinor Langer a former staff person of Science Magazine has said, and I quote, \"because of the nature of chemical and biological weapons research and even seemingly pure areas such as the development of vaccines has at least equal implications for offensive and defensive use.\" In addition, we read in the military's chemical and biological warfare manual, and I quote, \"chemical and biological defense is a prerequisite to an attack capability.\" Chemical and biological defense is a prerequisite to an attack capability. Therefore, it is impossible to state that the research being done here is strictly defensive. And it's easy to see how Soviet analysts would be worried about this research. When we remember that it was because of improvements in the capability of Soviet ground forces to operate in toxic environments that prompted the Pentagon to push for renewed weapons production. The next question to ask is, will this research, placed in the context of a major buildup and production of chemical weapons enhance our national security? Now the state department again and the Pentagon cite the Soviet use of chemical weapons in Afghanistan and in Southeast Asia as a justification for starting a chemical arms race. But we have to ask ourselves this question. If we had a workable antidote to nerve gas, right now and if we could quadruple our stockpile of chemical weapons and making them all binary tomorrow, what'd deter the Soviets from using chemical weapons against third-world people in their sphere of influence? I think history shows us that both the United States and the Soviet union will use any weapon at their disposal against third-world peoples as long as it is not too politically costly. For instance, the United States stopped the use of many chemical weapons in Vietnam because of public protest and the alienation of its allies and Nixon rejected the plan to use tactical nuclear weapons in Vietnam, because of, again, public protest and world opinion. The research here, and the U.S. chemical weapons buildup will do nothing to deter the Russians from using chemical weapons in situations where the political cost is acceptable and where there is no immediate chance of confrontation between the Soviet union and the United States or its allies. But what about an attack on our city? Talking about possible scenarios for chemical weapons attacks, Brigadier General Linwood B. Lennon, deputy director of strategies, plans, and policies for chemical and nuclear matters stated in 1978, and I quote, \"chemical warfare with considerable justification has not been considered a direct threat to the continental United States\" unquote. But what about an attack on NATO? This is the place where, a lot of people raise questions. Current U.S. policies state that we will retaliate in kind if the Soviet choose chemical weapons in Europe. The assumption is that a threat to retaliate in kind will form an effective deterrence from chemical attack. But this is not necessarily true. If the attacker were considering the use of nerve gas, they would have an advantage since they would already ensure their own chemical defenses were in place and in working order. This would make retaliation in kind no more effective than the use of conventional ammunitions. As Robert McCulloch, physical science officer with the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency has said it, and I quote, \"even when both sides have comparable chemical warfare capability, there seems to be an intrinsic advantage in surprise first use, which cannot be offset or nullified by a retaliation in kind.\" Ideally retaliation in kind should dissuade the attacker from further use of chemicals. However, once a two-sided chemical exchange occurs chemical hostilities will likely widen and intensify. Now there's also a belief among many that a retaliatory chemical warfare fighting capability will keep conflict below the nuclear threshold. But as Julian Perry Robinson has stated and I quote, \"chemical weapons may be inherently escalatory for two reasons. First, is that a resort to an illegal method of warfare would signify resolve to pursue war aims by extreme methods therefore, inducing pressure for an extreme response. And secondly is the matter of collateral damage. While it is true that in some circumstances, chemical weapons have an advantage over theater nuclear weapons, and not causing collateral blast damage, it is impossible to contain their toxic effects to the immediate target.\" In any event, if the use of chemical weapons were to change the overall outcome a battle, tactical nuclear weapons would most certainly be brought into play. For as Nikita Khrushchev has said, \"neither side would be willing to accept defeat until they have used all weapons at their disposal.\" And as British secretary of defense stated in 1970, and I quote, \"if the house really considers the situation, I believe that it will recognize that it is almost inconceivable that an enemy force would use chemical weapons against NATO forces except in circumstances of mass invasion in which event more terrible weapons would most certainly come into play.\" A decade later in the House of Commons, British secretary of state stated, \"the United Kingdom has no plans to acquire chemical weapons or to base chemical weapons in the United Kingdom.\" And since 1970, West Germany has emphatically renounced the possession of chemical weapons and the training of its troops in the use of them. The ramifications of ISU's participation in the military's effort to improve our chemical warfare capabilities, are that first of all, that it will serve as an escalation to the chemical arms race. This research, placed in the context of a huge chemical weapons production plan would only lead the Soviets into believing that we are interested in achieving superiority in this area. We need to remember that in an arms race it is not the intent of an act which is important but how that act is perceived by the other side. Both Soviet and American military planners are trained to think in worst case scenarios. U.S. military planners point to improved Soviet chemical defensive measures as reasons for our buildup in our chemical weapons. Why wouldn't the Soviets think the same thing? This research also contributes to the myth that chemical warfare is a reasonable military option and that with proper defenses that we can survive. In the same way that bomb shelters and programs of crisis relocation perpetuate the myth of a survivable nuclear war, so to holding out the hope of antidotes to nerve gas lowers the resistance and people to the idea of chemical warfare making the whole concept more acceptable. And thirdly, this research will help make chemical warfare less hazardous to wage, which makes it attempting offer, to an attempting option to use against third-world peoples, along with the new binary nerve gas weapons which will be easier to ship and to store, a better understanding of how soldiers will respond under battlefield conditions, and the possibility of an antidote to nerve gas will make chemical warfare an inexpensive and effective way of dealing with guerrilla movements. Interestingly enough, in a recently released FBI memorandum the Chilean intelligence agency, DINA, was making sarin, which is nerve gas under the secret code name Project Andrea. And in early 1981, the McClellan U.S. Army Chemical School held a secret worldwide chemical conference attended by over 250 civilians and officers from around the world. McClellan trains foreign soldiers at this chemical warfare school, including military people from countries who have not even signed the Geneva treaty. So, while this research contributes little, if anything to our national security, it does contribute to a dangerous arms race. It will contribute to the public's acceptance of chemical warfare as a legitimate military option. It makes chemical warfare less hazardous to wage and helps make chemical warfare an attractive method for third-world leaders to keep their people in line. But there is still another side of the ethical ramifications of nerve gas research at Iowa state which I think is even more important than everything else that I've mentioned. I would like to speak about the psychosocial effects as a result of this nerve gas research. To help us understand this, I've turned to the observations of Robert Jay Lifton, a psycho-historian. In his yet-to-be-published work, Lifton interviews Nazi doctors of Auschwitz, in an attempt to draw parallels between them and the technicians of the U.S. nuclear machine. And I believe that some of his observations are just as irrelevant or just as relevant to our situation here. Now, I'm not saying that the researchers that I will state are Nazis, okay? But I do believe that some of the same psychological processes that these Auschwitz doctors went through can and in fact are occurring here. Now, one of the things that Lifton observed was that these doctors had a contradictory sense of themselves. There was a loss of boundaries between healing and killing. They justified their human experimentation in the belief that by doing them, they were finding out information that one day could save lives. They felt that by doing the research asked for by the Nazi High Command, that they could also engage in real research. Here at ISU, many people say that if we do the research that the military wants us to do that it will allow us to do the research that we're really interested in. We justify our participation in chemical warfare research by telling ourselves that we can use the data to save lives. And we comfort ourselves with the knowledge that our work is publishable. Another phenomena that Lifton observed, was the process of psychic numbing among the Auschwitz doctors. Psychic numbing is a psychological defense mechanism that helps a person live with a reality that really can't be dealt with. This psychic numbing was facilitated by the mechanism of diffused responsibility. They saw themselves merely as cogs in a machine, part of a large bureaucracy that they had no control over. They were merely doing their job. The job had become the mechanism for renouncing responsibility and for fending off a sense of guilt. Today's military no longer needs the university to help them build weapons. They have labs of their own for that. What they need is the scientific brain power to conquer new frontiers. The military will often parcel out basic research grants to researchers in such a way that they seldom know how their research will be used, or how it connects with other research being done. And among many researchers, there is even a cultivated ignorance about the work they do for the military. What we are talking about here is the subtle coaptation of the concept and mission of university. For as I stated in the very beginning when I started, the university is supposed to be about integration, about understanding how things fit together. Military research and this nerve gas research in particular encourages disintegration. Military research encourages researchers not to think of the ramification of their research. And it was a tremendous struggle just to get one one of these seminars to focus on the particulars of the nerve gas research being done here. This research creates a schizophrenic work experience requiring those who associate with it to construct bizarre mythologies of meaning in order to justify their participation. For example, if we don't do it somebody else will. Or, as long as it's publishable, it's okay, Then there's, we're not responsible for what's being done with our research. Or, I'm just doing my job. Another one is, if I do the research the military wants, I can do real research. And then there is, the military has the money and we've got to go where the money is. None of these mythologies, by the way, held up in the international war crime trials at Nurnberg and none of them were today. These work mythologies can eventually cause a self-alienation within the researcher and destroy any sense of continuity between what happens in the research laboratory and the rest of their lives. The mission of the university involves more than producing data or becoming a knowledge factory. The universities are called to be agents of social transformation. Our society today is characterized by fragmentation and alienation. We all feel a sense of impotence and powerlessness. Each of us is plagued by psychic numbing and disintegration. We all feel like cogs in a machine and there is little continuity between our lives, our work lives and the rest of our lives. More important than anything else that university can do today, it needs to call people back to a holistic sense of self. The role of the university is to make connections. And this means that we need to be keepers of the gate so to speak. Calling into questions, those tendencies in society that contradict that interrelatedness. And this will require courage and vision. Because the temptation to think that we can act as autonomous agents in a world without thought to social, political or economic consequences is very strong in today's world, very strong. It's not an easy path to follow, but if the university doesn't do it I have little hope that it will be done. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you Tom. About twice a week I suppose, I get a letter to my desk with a back slip on it from President Parks, and these letters follow a fairly regular pattern. Dr. Parks, I think it's disgraceful that Iowa state university is working with the army to develop new nerve gases. I wish you would stop this, stop this work. There are signs which appear at the union, stop ISU nerve gas research. And there are many people I think in the state, who have the opinion that we are actually developing nerve gases and nothing could be further from the truth. I thought at this point, it might be reasonable to answer the question, what is it that we are doing at the present time in our research which uses nerve gas? And I can think of no better person to answer that question than Dr. VanMeter, whose research group is involved at the present time in research which uses the reagent of nerve gas. Dr. VanMeter, would you be willing to compare and, Dr. William VanMeter from the veterinary college.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Dr, Zaffarano. Till I got up here tonight I really didn't know what I was going to talk about and I'm not so sure I still do. But, when this kind of thing happens I usually go back over basic things and maybe that will help us get some clarity. First of all, I am not a proponent of chemical warfare. I do not wish chemical warfare to take place. The people that I deal with do not want chemical warfare to take place. That has not been stated to me and it has been categorically denied. Secondly, I am not using human subjects other than in my graduate courses where I'm teaching them and they're held by me for two hours on Tuesday afternoons in lectures on neurotransmission. That's as close as I can come it's probably the other way around. When this concept of ethics came up, I started feeling a little funny because I wasn't quite sure what it meant. So I started asking people, what does ethics mean? What's the definition of it? Such learned groups as, the graduate council, the dean of the graduate school, and anybody I could stop on the street or in the classroom. And without exception, they smiled and talked about something else. So the only conclusion I could come to was that everybody knew what ethics was except me. So I decided to go with the dictionary and find out what this was. And I thought at first I'd be looking up in Webster's but later and as I turned the cover over, I found it it was Random House, but I think the definition still goes, says ethics is a system of moral principles of a culture, for example. 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Four, that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions, and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions, and since it was on the same page or something about ethical nihilism, which is a denial of the existence of any possible bases, B-A S-E-S, for the establishment of an ethical or moral philosophy. In other words that ethics doesn't exist. Or ethical relativism, the view that moral standards and principles are relative to the nature of the particular society in which they exist and admit to no outside criticism or evaluation. Two, second definition, similar view concerning the moral standards and principles of an individual. First seminar series of discussions, Dr. Dolphin raised a question, directed it to the people in philosophy that were here at the time, and there was no response. So again, I assume that everybody knew what it meant except me, so I went to dictionary and looked it up again. It's called censorship, censor. First definition was an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio programs, et cetera, for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable or moral form on moral, political, military, or other grounds. Two, any person who supervises the manners or morality of others. Three, an adverse critic, a fault finder. Four, in ancient Rome, it was either of two officials, or keeping the censors and regulating the moral conduct and manners of the packets. To value, to rate. So I found out what those two things meant. In that context, I came to this meeting. Now, organophosphates are a class of compounds that are all derivatives of phosphoric acid, big deal. What that means is, that there's a large number of these. Some 100 or so, that find their way into everyday use. Dichlorvos, it's an active constituent, be anything with P-H-O-S or -phos on the end of it, generally speaking, is an organophosphate. Parathion, malathion, and now I know you're expecting a big rootworm to come up behind me in the screen, but I can't offer that tonight. This is the season on television where you hear lots of information about organophosphates. Any of those organophosphates, there's some '100s of them, could be used as chemical warfare agents because they will produce an effect on the nervous system that can be debilitating. So what we are talking about, is a question of potency. The more strength a substance has, the more effect it can have on a physiological system such as the body. When you push this too far in the body, it becomes toxic, then the body behaves in different ways. With that classification of compounds, why is this important? Well, the oldest, longest investigated chemical neurotransmitter. The way nerve cells communicate with effector organs like muscles, the way they communicate in the brain, the one chemical transmitter we know the most about, has got a long name, I can't change it, it's acetylcholine. When it acts, it acts in a split second, I can't snap my fingers fast enough to indicate its action. It must be mopped up fast, extremely fast. And it's done by an enzyme called cholinesterase. So, acetylcholine released in response to input every place, makes muscles move, it's cooking like crazy now that my hands are moving around, causes gastrointestinal contractions, whole host of things that are natural and normal must take place. The other side of the picture that's called the cholinergic system. On the other side of the picture, we have something called the adrenergic system, and we know something about that. Anybody who's had an amphetamine or an upper, knows what the adrenergic system is all about. That stimulation, lots of information available on that, massive stimulation of the adrenergic system. Hyper activity, nervousness, high blood pressure, noradrenaline, adrenaline-going, that's the adrenergic system. Very little work is done, very little is known, about persistent effects on the cholinergic system, the one with acetylcholine and cholinesterase. How can you develop this persistence stimulation? How can you test it under this stress condition to see what the effects are? Does it have a relationship to mental illness? You cannot stimulate electrically. You need to use compounds, chemical compounds that will produce effects. Organophosphates belong to a group of anticholinesterases, called irreversible ones. That means that their action lasts for a very long time. As I said, cholinesterase normally is a split-second action. An irreversible one will last for maybe a day, up to two weeks. So it's a very long-lasting substance that will produce a persistent stimulation. All of these, with the exception of one organophosphate, with the exception of one and only one, will slowly reverse. So you don't have a fixed point in time. You don't know whether you're looking at a persistent stimulation of the cholinergic system, or whether you're looking at a slow reversal of it and the mechanism that attended to it. There's only one compound, that compound is soman. That compound is completely irreversible. Once it binds up the cholinesterase, no way is it going to be released. It is the most persistent, as far as we know, years. So that is irreversible. There are two sources, and thanks to Tom tonight, so I understand three sources, to obtain soman. One is the Department of Defense of the United States government. The other, another would be the Department of Defense of the USSR, and the third now, I guess some of the Southern hemisphere countries, Chile producing. Now, the production of this is no big deal. In March, I believe it was of 1980, chemical formulas for all of these compounds were published in an article in scientific American. To manufacture, synthesize into these compounds, it takes nickel and dime type of chemicals. You can make a wastebasket full for maybe 50 bucks. So it's no big deal. There's no advanced technology, no super type of thing involved at all. You have to have control conditions to do it because you'll kill everybody around when you're synthesizing because they're very potent, extremely potent. They're not long-lived. They last a very brief period of time. They break down, they're extremely unstable compounds. For example soman, if it were to be put on the ground outside this building tonight, 12 hours, nothing. It's hydrolyzed very readily. That's why organophosphates found their way into agriculture because we started dumping chlorinated hydrocarbons on the ground, and the peak runoff of that, we still don't know when that's going to hit. That's coming years ahead in the oceans. So we turned to the organophosphates because they weren't persistent, and yet they did the job because we feed a lot of the world right out of the center of the United States. We have to have those bumper crops every year or even with all the graft and everything else that you wanna say negative about it, it tends to fall apart. Okay, so it's used in agriculture. It's of interest in one of the basics of chemical transmission associated with muscle movement, associated with a host of other things. My personal interest is in neurotransmission on a cholinergic transmitting synapse that's in the central nervous system, and there is only one, only one that's been proven with most scientists will agree in the central nervous system, that is cholinergic. That is the renshaw cell acts on collateral. Doesn't matter, it's a small inner door. There are about 15 of us in the world that work on this. It's an absolute marvelous model to look at the effects of persistent cholinergic stimulation. When is it ethical to study this? If you have a problem, that is a legitimate problem in terms of its scientific nature, and you do not utilize what is a responsible approach to testing this and all of the hypotheses associated with it and chemicals, and if you fear and begin to doubt as a scientist, all of the goodness and the badness, your ability to judge this, your ability to make decisions, you begin to distrust other people in their decision-making process. You fear to go into problematic areas of research and you tend to polarize onto the shore, the tried and the true, then the questions of ethics, in my mind, get very cloudy. I cannot look to somebody else to say, \"tell me what it is\" because as an instructor in a class has to do is almost a scientist. The ultimate responsibility lies with you. As an individual, am I working on something? Am I working on something for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons? Nobody else can tell you that. You gonna breach all you want, political or otherwise, it doesn't matter. When It gets down to us, am I trying to solve problems, that in my best training and judgment, I consider to be ones that will be a benefit. Another issue that needs to be more or less put to rest, I think, and to do fine, clarified, is the question of applied research versus basic research. And a rule of thumb is to say, in basic research, we're looking for the why. How does it work? In the applied research, we're looking for where does it work? And as colleagues of mine have stated to me, there is no way then that you can absolutely control any findings on anything, the application of it by other people, you cannot do that. I think it was pointed out fairly clearly in the first seminar that, yes. One of the best insurances we have is to keep things in the open. Keep it unclassified. For if this work we're doing now, polls are being submitted. If they work classified and kept secret, you wouldn't even know about it, but they are in the open. They do encourage discussion, so long as discussion takes place, fine. When it breaks down into intimidation, taking citers away from the mainstream, and saying, \"let's go only with the tried and true,\" then I think there's some problems. So, came up here, I wasn't quite sure what I was going to say, but I thought some of these issues needed to be pointed out and at least clarified. This is what is going on, this is what is happening.\r\n\r\n- And the first one is, what is an organophosphorus compound? And I think the definition can be broadened somewhat away from organophosphates because there are other classes of compounds that are not organophosphates or organophosphites, organophosphines, and so on. And so I think more broadly defined, an organophosphorus compound is one which contains one or more phosphorous atoms, and one or more carbon atoms. This is a broad working definition and that's all it's meant to be. The second question, are all organophosphorus compounds biologically active? And I think the best answer to that is that all compounds, whether or not they contain phosphorus and carbon, are biologically active. And when administered to any organism in sufficient quantities, will make it sick and possibly kill it. Are any organophosphorus compounds biologically helpful? And I think there're certainly have been allusions to this but maybe there are a couple in the three examples I want to pick, that have not been touched upon. The first example, one of the most effective drugs for a very wide variety of cancers is an organophosphorus compound. It's called cyclophosphamide. It is the most highly dosed anticancer drug in the world and has been involved in treating several types of cancer which are now considered curable. Some basic work on these types of organophosphorus compounds, in fact, went on in our laboratories a few years ago. It turns out that two more very promising organophosphorus drugs are currently in various stages of clinical trials. The second example, myasthenia gravis is a disease of humans in which the muscles progressively deteriorate. Although there is no known cure for this disease, one of the drugs which is being used to alleviate its symptoms is an organophosphorus compound. Glaucoma, which is the third example, is a fairly common disease of the eye in which fluid pressure inside the eyeball is not properly controlled. Glaucoma left untreated, as you perhaps well know, eventually leads to permanent blindness. One of the drugs used to arrest glaucoma is an organophosphorus compound. Interestingly, it is commonly believed among scientists that the myasthenia gravis and glaucoma drugs, which are different molecules incidentally, behave biologically in the same way as a nerve gas, except with much greater specificity. In an over simplified way, it can be said that the nerve impulses which are overstimulated in nerve gas poisoning, are, for as yet unknown reasons, under-stimulated in myasthenia gravis and glaucoma. Thus the drugs used to treat these disorders act to more properly stimulate the effected nerves. The way in which the cancer drug, cyclophosphamide and its derivatives operate, is not known with certainty except that they do not operate in the same way that nerve gases do. The fourth question and the last one, which I'd like to address very briefly is, should a university do fundamental research, then, on organophosphorus compounds, be they organophosphites, phosphates, or whatever? Let me answer the question this way. It is in university laboratories that most compounds which get into screening programs of all types, are synthesized or discovered for the first time. And secondly, it is in university laboratories where numerous fundamental biological processes are studied. Such studies give rise to an understanding of the specific but highly variable chemistry, which is involved in biological activities of all kinds of compounds. Certain such studies are not feasible as we've just learned, if specific toxic substances are not employed. Thank you very much. Do I have other\r\n\r\n- I'm Harold Stockdale, extension... shouldn't have done that. Entomologist here at Iowa State University, and I, although it's been alluded to by a couple of the speakers, yes, we do use some of the organophosphates in agriculture in Iowa and in the Midwest, but I'm not so sure all of you in the audience, realize to the extent that they are used. You have been bombarded, not just recently, I think it started about in November on television about the rootworm insecticides and you're probably about as sick of those ads as I am too. But, seven of them are currently used for rootworm control on about 7 million acres a year in Iowa. And this is, this has been going on since the mid '70s. They are used primarily on corn-following-corn to control the rootworm, and although we have 14 million acres of corn in Iowa in 1981, about six to seven million acres of that is corn-following-corn, where rootworms are a real problem. And six of these materials that you've been watching on TV are organophosphates. I hope we don't refer to them as nerve gases. I would just assume that we call them organophosphate insecticides, although they are fully an esterase inhibitors. The other one that is used, furadan, is a carbamate and it is also a cholinesterase inhibitor, although more readily reversed reversible than some of the organophosphates. Admittedly, not all of these have the same potency, the same toxicity, but several of the materials that are used are quite toxic. Counter, Thimate, are two that are quite toxic materials, and it would seem to me that research on cholinesterase inhibition and also antidotes being carried on at a land-grant university, where they are used very extensively in agriculture, should be considered when you are trying to weigh the decision, is it right or wrong? You may be thinking this is agriculture, you're not farmers, but some of you are gardeners. Some of you have lawns, some of you have houses that occasionally have pests and you carry out pest control on your own. And most of the materials that you use on your lawn, your garden, your trees, your shrubs, are also organophosphates or carbamates. Sevin, for example, is a carbamate, but the current leading materials for cockroach control in our homes are, Diazinon, Dursban, the identical material that we're using for rootworms is called Lorsban, but it is Dursban, in under our kitchen sinks to control cockroaches. Ficam is a carbamate. Then also in our orchards, I have four or five apple trees in my backyard that I hope this is the year that at least two or three of them are going to grow some apples, and I will use a couple of ones that I haven't mentioned. Imidan, for example. I probably won't use some of the materials that a commercial orchard grower uses to protect his apples, Di-syston, but an organophosphate of cholinesterase inhibitor. Well, I could go on and on, I don't think that's the point due there are other speakers, maybe that want to say something. I do think that we do use these materials both on and off the farm and to discover or to find out more about them and more about an antidote, I think, well, I think this is very apropos to be carried on at a land-grant university in the research laboratory. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Who'd like to speak?\r\n\r\n- My name is John Hathcock, I'm a nutritionist in the department of food and nutrition, also have some credentials in toxicology. I think that we've missed the most important issues here tonight. I think we're here because nerve gas is a buzzword. It gets your attention, organophosphate that may not get your attention. I'd like to state the opinion that this issue regarding the organophosphate research described is not basically different from the issues relating to many other classes of chemicals, such as pesticides, food additives, environmental pollutants, and whatever. I fear that sometimes we tend to get moral myopia and chemophobia at the same time. when I hear of the term such as illegal warfare methods, let's suppose, you and I are gonna have warfare. We agree certain methods are legitimate ways to kill each other, moral ways to kill each other. Others are immoral, we shouldn't use those. I find them all distasteful, is to use not the chemical. Chemophobia, those of us in nutrition who are concerned with food additives, natural poisons, contaminants, and so forth, have to fight this specter all the time. Anything with more than three syllables is harmful. Do you prefer your chemicals to be natural? Have you heard the yellow rain in Southeast Asia? Would you prefer to die with a natural poison rather than an artificial one, back to mother nature. Some of the meanest, nastiest little molecules you've ever met are perfectly natural and I don't wanna run into them. I think that what we need to know is need to do, is to learn as much as we can about chemistry, about biology, about their intelligent uses, about ways to control their uses. I think that we cannot put our heads in the sand and ignore it and have it go away. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to ask professor Van Meter, why he thinks the army or the Department of Defense funded him? Joe Cupo from Philosophy.\r\n\r\n- Well, first of all Secondly, in 1960, three or two, no 66, 1955, I was working with Frankfort\r\n\r\n- After you get to first answer my question--\r\n\r\n- I do\r\n\r\n- Do you see the thing for them? Do you think that farming anything that looks good that doesn't serve sound military purpose? Do you not seriously at the military farms or serve military purpose? Do you think that your research had no barren on their plan?\r\n\r\n- First of all, I cannot speak for the military. I'm not in the military. So I will not say what their motive is.\r\n\r\n- You have no idea.\r\n\r\n- I didn't say I have no idea, I said I will not speak for them, okay. The purpose of basic research as it has been discussed at several meetings with Department of Defense across the board, army, navy, air force, whatever, has been to develop what is called a technical base, basis of technical information. The Department of Defense and it was November of 1980, held a meeting in Reston, Virginia. The title of it was Research Funding Opportunities and Department of Defense, something like this. There were approximately anticipated 150 participants, over 300 showed up. These participants were from the academic community. The discussion was, what types of information should we investigate? The information was coming from the scientific community to the Department of Defense. What is needed? What is known? What areas should we fund in basic research? These were defined by the scientific community. Now, I'm sure what you would like for me to say is, the Department of Defense wants to use the scientific community for their own purposes and this is not ethical. But I can't really say that because I cannot speak for them.\r\n\r\n- You make it sound like there's some sort of secret, hiding the truth, and wisdom and justice. I find your attitude very naive.\r\n\r\n- It may be. It may be, I may be a very naive person, I can't say for sure.\r\n\r\n- Tell us what you wanna work on and we'll fund you.\r\n\r\n- No, not exactly that way. That might be naive. It is not a simple, straightforward, right, wrong, good, bad. White hat, black hat, you know, that doesn't work in this case. The Department of Defense has given some indications that it's interested in basic research and funding. Why are they interested in doing this, okay? First of all, there are in existence, chemical warfare agents, mustard gas, for example. We don't have any way of treating exposure to this. A year ago, I guess it was maybe two year and a half ago. There were 17 children that were exposed to mustard gas and died. This mustard gas was laying in a field in France, persistent from world war I. These kids died because we didn't know enough about the toxicity. Now, it is naive to think that we know what chemicals do completely. We don't. So we must investigate this. Investigate this, we find out what the toxic ramifications are. And it might be, for example, that we look at some of these chemical agents and we find that there is no way of controlling their use. Now, that raises an interesting proposition that if we find there is no way of controlling their use, that means our side or their side, doesn't matter whose side, then they are no longer usable. We don't know that yet. So, should we stop because we don't know that? Or should we open our eyes and try to find out? Now as far as the purpose of the Department of Defense you know, in finding out this information, as I said, I cannot reassure you by telling you that they are trying to utilize the scientific community by fragmenting and then recollecting in some way, if any division of our federal government could be that well organized I would be amazed perhaps the IRS, I don't know. And before I sit down, I would like to say one thing, I have a house and if somebody could help me with the payments.\r\n\r\n- About what we were just talking about, I think the Pentagon did more than just a research result from ISU and other people. A DOD's, study through my basic research set up by a former secretary of defense, Harold Brown, stated in my book, \"the DOD basic research program encourages, direct a natural access by DOD technical personnel, to research institutions and scientists and provide a means of bringing into the DOD, a set of highly qualified technical personnel. In other words, what they're interested, is not just research, but bringing in people to do research on a more regular basis into the DOD family, and in a country where 50% of our researchers are directly, indirectly working in military-related industry, well, civilian productivity innovations is falling. I think this is again a moral and ethical question you need to consider. The DOD, for instance, came to Dr. Cannell when they were coming to visit Dr. Van Meter's research. At least to say, the next time when they come to visit Dr. Cannell's research, they may tap into somebody else. This is the way the DOD gets their foot in the door. This is the way they like to cultivate a university, and they also prep a lot of interested grad students, also in this way. Grad students gets interested in DOD research and they try to bring those people under their wing also 'cause they're more interested in just, in data and research results.\r\n\r\n- Saw a number of hands right back here.\r\n\r\n- My name is Marilyn Fenn and I live here in Ames, and this is the second meeting that I've attended today on a very sensitive issue, dealing with weapons of massive destruction that can potentially harm numbers of combatants and non-combatants, if the United States was to engage in warfare, of whether it was biological or nuclear varieties. The first meeting was done in Des Moines and there's an analogy here and a parallel that I see happening, that I find disturbing and much of what I see paralleling Tom Cordell's comments about psychic numbing and the way we separate our realities so as to not face disturbing realities. The debate this afternoon was with civil defense authorities on whether or not preparations for nuclear warfare in terms of developing crisis relocation plans is really essential in working towards the health and the safety of the civilian population. And in talking about doing nerve gas research in the event that weapons of a biological nature are actually used, that we need as much information as we can so as to develop antidotes and be able to work with those realities of the use of these horrific weapons. Now, parallel I see, is that in both instances we are joining a collective conscience and we're joining a corporate mindset that in the very commitment to develop these kind of, \"if it happens\" kinds of plans, that we are in essence paving the way for the use of these kinds of weapons. And that ethics is essentially a process of seeing connections and looking at consequences, and that by participating and funding, whether it be civil defense relocation plans or nerve gas research, we ourselves are bringing the use of these kinds of weapons, chemical, and nuclear, even closer to human reality which would be a very inhuman reality. So I see a psychic numbing and a separation of where we're at now and where we're leading, happening right here in this room, happening in Des Moines this afternoon, and happening again here at ISU tonight.\r\n\r\n- Raise your hand if you have a question.\r\n\r\n- I have a in the history of and I think there's an interesting question that should be maybe switched to at this point, and that is what professor Van Meter was saying about the openness of research, and it came up in the graduate college meeting as well. Is there any reason why the university should ever restrict research information? And I guess the question in part, in terms of defining ethics for your own research is, if at some point you should find that there was no way to produce an antidote for this chemical compound, at that juncture, it becomes rather an important defensive weapon, not to maybe let the other side know that this is what you found. What happens in the instance when the Department of Defense comes to you and says, \"all right we don't want this information not released.\" What stand then does your ethics require you take at that point?\r\n\r\n- After having information And there was in a very recent times, a person who submitted a proposal in cryptography to the National Science Foundation, it was sent to the National Security Agency because cryptography, the possibility that they'll say, \"oh, well, did such turn back, did you generate new ways to break holes,\" it become an issue of rather considerable and there's blank going on this, in the patience of science right now about the government's They're doing something about that. So professor Van Meter might not have anything to say about that. They might just classify the publications to try to make.\r\n\r\n- I don't think they will but\r\n\r\n- You know, so I think anybody will have the right to do, to like, depending on the circumstances. I tend to want to be a little bit more flexible, and so I don't believe that, just strictly put the blinders on and looking now on So, what I'd like to say is there might be circumstances, in particular, that I don't know about and I don't wanna ask what So, it could happen. It is not been presented to me as it happens. It has not been put to me as happen. And then in terms of development of antidotes, it seems to be a big problem. I didn't make that clear enough. We are not working on the development of antidotes. We are not doing that. That is not being done in our laboratory, that is not what We are not set up What we are working on is basic research. Getting data, and this data, maybe it's similar in some way, but other side in some place though, that we'll be able to design molecules. You don't develop drugs the way we're going about it. That's not the... I worked for several years and had a lot of , no, the drug administrator the background working with drugs . You don't develop any of those\r\n\r\n- And is your work related to that?\r\n\r\n- Yes, but so much work and how far related? For example, somebody is studying potential strength of steel, that's used in tanks. It's related. So if the question will make me\r\n\r\n- Not directly.\r\n\r\n- How directly? If they paint, for example, and I personally will consider this to be a problem. Considering, a lot of people And, first of all, been up in this business. Secondly, as far as the research is concerned, in my response with the public a few years, I will get my personal if the Department of Defense comes to me and say, \"we want to work with secret valuable thus to develop a new chemical warfare agent to protect our groups and conquer the world, I would have had some strong reservation.\r\n\r\n- I have a couple of quotations from a book, \"Chemical and Biological Warfare.\" It's published by D. Hank, it's readily available. And now three quotations from representatives of the army that I hope will give Dr.Van Meter some strong reservations. The first one is a quote from brigadier-general, J. H. Rothschild, former director of Chemical Warfare Research. He writes, \"it is only since my retirement that I've been able, while still observing security requirements, to freely state my opinions in the public forum. Before that I was not able to speak of a chemical or biological weapon without prefacing my remarks with the statement that the enemy might use it. I was never able to speak of the offensive, only of the defensive. This is absurd. You cannot develop defenses against weapons without some knowledge of how it may be used offensively.\" Second quotation comes from brigadier-general F.J. Del Mar, commander of the Englewood Arsenal, one of the places in charge of chemical and biological warfare, he told congress, \"studies on the mechanisms of toxic action of chemical agents provide leads to the discovery of new agents, as well as to the development of defensive measures against such agents.\" And brigadier-general saying, \"studies on the mechanisms of toxic action of chemical agents, provide leads to the discovery of new toxic agents.\" And the last quote is from testimony made by Chemical Corp officers to Congress. They stated, \"without an effective antidote or vaccine, no C and B weapon, chemical and biological warfare weapon, is effective. So there were three clear statements by people from the military saying their purpose in the research is primarily, to be able to use those sorts of weapons. And this, so the connection is not between... There's much more direct connection than in your case of the steel research on toxic strength by their own admission.\r\n\r\n- What's your name?\r\n\r\n- I'm Tony Smith from the philosophy department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/34590/file/103434#t=0.0,2683.45469"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/34590/file/247513","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 3 of 3 - 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