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And I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3523.34,3526.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1010","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was but no one ever complained. But I decided at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3526.1,3531.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1011","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some point in the late eighties, I guess, that if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3531.35,3536.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1012","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I were going to ever have anything out of the lab,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3537.47,3540.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1013","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had to get it out of the house. So we bought a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3540.95,3543.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1014","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building and put it OK, established there. And so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3543.68,3547.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then I sold it when I just got so overwhelmed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3547.55,3550.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with taking care of my mother that she had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955#t=3550.94,3553.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158955/transcript/36743/annotation/1017","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alzheimer's. 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How is your interest in science cultivated or blossomed? Well, first, my grandparents were farmers and at being at the farm was the greatest thing in my life. I was the oldest of the grandchildren. So that any sort of special treatment to all the oldest granddaughter, not oldest, there was a grandson older than me. But as the doing a lot of my growing years, I remember very clearly from the age three on time spent up there. I was always interested in everything they did. They had mechanical means of doing things that we had to follow and watch and do. Just always curious about what happened. And I think my curiosity about everything was probably the earmark of what let's say maybe got me started down this path. But there were things that I would ask about what they were doing, that all my grandparents would make an effort to explain everything they couldn't. We had a settler and lights in the house, in the farmhouse, and I'd watch Grandpa switch these cans out. Grandma cream seller far enough away from the house that he had such cans and turn a couple of valves and start water dripping and very slowly and very carefully. And that's why we finished the lights. You understand, it took me a long time to understand that it was, I guess, the acetylene like technology was something of the early nineteen hundreds, even a lot of lights. But I didn't know why that calcium carbide went ahead and gave us a settlement that he could have liked in the house and all the cream separators. I couldn't understand how they work. You know, you go from milk to cream and more water and milk and just everything that they did. I, I trailed around after him and watched. He had a blacksmith's shop there of his own blacksmith. The owner saw mill work and I was just always close behind him. He said, let me be. And I grew up that way. I learned to read very early motherhood when she was working in the kitchen. She put me on the floor as a newspaper and give me some letters. I remember finally, plainly have heavy circle over the page, you know, but I've always been interested in learning. That's the main point there. And I was interested in learning that makes you want to work at learning work and finding out things that I already know. And I think it was just built in my nature. And your high school experience, did you were you particularly good in chemistry? I was particularly good in everything. All right, I was valedictorian of my class, among other things, and I also was always challenged to have a straight A's on every exam or hundreds. And then even in high school, when they gave them that extra additional credit, I would push them. And I've got straight 100 so eager to do. I've got another five points coming to me. So, you know, special things, the. Teachers, even in grade school, I guess, recognize that the classrooms weren't very satisfactory for me, has had a way of saying it, but I, I want the spelling bees and on up through junior high and high school, I the decorative statements, the you know, the big series of lectures, oratory, anything like that representing the class, I had no part, no difficulty getting leading roles in the school plays. So just I have nothing to complain about in grade school. The teachers want to have assignments in the sixth grade and I knew darn well I wasn't learning anything more anyway in school. Let me go to their teacher's lounge and help them roll yard and things like that to pass the time of day. So it's some combination of curiosity and interest and the ability to pick up more than I'm being offered. It went through my early school career. And how did you decide to go to college? Was that always expected? No. In my family, it wasn't expected at all. First off, in the town where I live, I live in southern Ohio. And what I guess you would say, it's not exactly Appalachian, but it's bounded by hills to the Ohio River and just across the Ohio River from Kentucky. The schools were not plaza schools. The I knew there was one boy in a class ahead of me that was going to go to college. And I knew no one else who went to college. So my teachers had one uncle, the youngest mother's youngest brother had gone to Ohio State, but daddy was a railroader and the family was farmers and there was no sort of higher education. The I think it was in general science seventh grade that I learned that there was a field of chemistry, had a good science teacher, and I endlessness peaked at that point. My high school that the general science teacher at the first year of high school, and he gave me a lot of extra attention. He let me do things like determining atomic weights after school and such things as that. And I went. Ohio has a system of state scholarship exams for schools from a certain area, go to a local university and just compete for scores just for the school districts. And I always did that. So I, I don't think I really decided so much to go as just didn't think there was anything else I could do. I just always wanted to and daddy would. You know, this was also depression. Yes. You understand that you're talking once to get out of school in the forties. Right. So I was a depression child and that just kept not seeing any way I could go. And all I would say is, well, I'm going to. And there were no there were no scholarships that this wasn't the kind of thing that was available. So but he got a raise changing positions. Did you have to scale it to the day? Of course, which I'm not going to do. I think it was a jump of twelve dollars every two weeks. It was different. And he came. I'm so proud to be able to send you in. When did your mom think about it? Oh, well, now the women in the family are always strong and advanced education. My my grandmother was a teacher. School teacher. I had that were school teachers at that one. Might at least be teachers. It's true. But if you remember in those days you could teach with normal school. My mother's older sister, who was always very dear to me, taught continuously, but she didn't finish her college degree to see the sixty five. Oh, so it can happen now. Did you mention you have brothers and sisters and did they eventually go on to get a college education? Oh yes, yes, yes. By then times have changed. Yes. I have a brother who retired as a colonel in the Air Force, a sister who taught school her entire life career with two sisters who were teachers, one grade school and high school. So they went on to college, but it was not even thought of doing it from my time at the time I was in school. I think the war changed a lot of that. So how did you choose the college that you went to? I have a little essay sort of thing I started writing one day once myself, there was always a train. My father was a railroad man and it was the Norfolk and Western Railway which came up from Norfolk, Virginia, through the coal producing states always loaded with coal. And at Portsmouth, Ohio, which is where I was born and lived my folks all through my school in southern Ohio before I went to Ohio State, the terminal for the Norfolk and Portsmouth, Ohio, which is where I was, and one train went and treatment both to Columbus, Ohio, the Cincinnati, Ohio, and there were free passes. So this was my access to the outside world because there was always a train. It was a three a.m. train arriving from 7:00 a.m., which was a good time. My uncle up there could meet me and do whatever take me wherever I needed. In terms of the choice of Ohio State, it was one of the I believe in the first group of schools accredited by the American Chemical Society. So it had strong accreditation. I'm not positive. I don't I never have exactly document of that. I was told several times that it was in the first group after they decided that after the decided they needed to issue accreditation. That's something that they should check on if it's to go into any written thing that they it was accredited. I had received one scholarship. I said that there weren't scholarships. It was to Capital University in Columbus. And it was a little hard for Daddy to understand why I kept saying Ohio State instead of. Sure. Yeah, but it was so strongly recommended. And so I. Did you declare your major is chemistry, right? Well, yes. If you want to do chemistry in Ohio State, this started out in chemistry because they failed their classes with the full curriculum. And actually I ended up with half my credit hours being in chemistry. I just got a bachelor's degree. But in that time, I had taken a number of the courses that were labeled advanced undergraduates or graduates. I had taken things like colloidal chemistry and electrochemistry and courses that you didn't normally get. OK, so I had I had lots of chemistry. And were you one of the few women students in chemistry then? I think I knew five other women taking chemistry, not all in my classes or in my grades. And I don't know that any of them actually used it as a research career. I, I didn't hang around with the girls very much. I don't know. And I we didn't all graduate at the same time. One did graduate in my graduating class. The dive is a mini crisis, whether it be 30 or four a.m., OK, but now at the time you were at Ohio State, was that during the war? Yes, but there still were several men there. Yes, the. OK, let me backtrack to that. We're through the place that was high school, my senior year in high schools near Pearl Harbor. OK, so the most of the men in my class, some of left at midterm that season, that year and the others finished it. I had to start in June to get a chemistry major as I got out started at Ohio State one week later because they had already instituted some deferments, draft deferments for certain fields and chemistry was among them. But more importantly, I guess there were more of them were medical students that were deferred and they at least taking beginning chemistry. And so the curriculum, the availability of the right course, the right time, determined going straight through school. He took those quarters off and finished in three years. In fact, three summers. This adds up to another year and quarters. So the studying was intense. But like I say, I could say, but I did what would have been expected, tested out of a lot of the things, the need for English and most of my French and some of those things I tested out of those and had more room to put in, still more chemistry. Did you consider going into medicine with you? No, no, no, no. My interest had been sparked somewhere along and about junior in high school by genetics. And when I went to Ohio State, the only other thing that I even thought I might switch to, and that was especially after getting active in the genetics department at Ohio State because they very much wanted me to transfer to that. I gradually found out they didn't have enough tools to study the chemistry of what was going on. And I started directly aiming myself toward something that would be to give you tools for determining molecular structure, knowing what was happening. In fact, what it always bothered me was very quickly in high school sometime when they were first talking about chromosomes and genes and how the chromosomes divided itself, I pondered over that one evening and went back to the and said, no, that's all one molecule. You can't divide itself and is pleased that that my father was that far. And so I started looking for what it was and just in my own mind, trying to sort out what in the world there could be that would attract the other side of the chromosome of a certain chemical structure. What could it be that would make all of the other atoms like it line up alongside of duplication? Not splitting, not dividing is the textbooks were saying they didn't divide. And so that was sort of my overriding middle interests at the time and. It took a long time for them to find out what had to be a helix, but I started out almost in the beginning at Ohio State. I was active in both the biology department and taking chemistry as my major. But I took quite the real and especially on the genetic side. And I ask the teachers from one side to the other about the forces that would be required, what would be the chemistry teacher? I said, what is there about the structures that are knew the term hydrogen bomb? It was obviously what I was looking for, but no one knew it. And I said, well, I putting crystals, how the crystals form, what makes them grow. So that was sort of an overriding consideration. And that's sort of on the way I learned about not wanting to do it. Then under the electron microscope, they thought that might work, but you can't at that time, at least adequate techniques for studying tissues or anything like that. And I think that was an overriding interest that came up the time to get a job. And it was a point where I made a decision that might or might not have been a good one. I the. And the teachers are all very well on me, and I was given the time I was. As a sophomore, I was paid instructor for the graduate students in their summer microanalysis. Some of those things and one of the professors who subsequently became head of the chemistry department at Syracuse University hired me a part time to help him with limestone analysis. He had a contract to analyze limestones all over Upsala, Ohio, and it was a little more interesting than just straight analysis. We had a problem with decanting some of the elements that need to go into that. I was able to at least work on a methods to develop how you'd get around getting the results on the that we are looking for on some of the elements when there was a lot of silica and that silicon not interfered. It's been a while. I haven't thought about that one. But it was more interesting that what I learned there was that I didn't really want to be someone's Minch chemist. It was very good to have done that. So I when it came job interview time, I had some definite opinions about how I want to put it like that. But you didn't think of continuing your education? Yes, I did. If I just didn't know how to go about it, no one told me how to go about it. And I had been following the research, were going at Stanford and really wanted to go there and study the biology department, what to make of the woods hole and get over the fact that I didn't like to cut up animals unless the animals there really spent the summer woods hole. And I hadn't decided what I was going to do when, well, I had one and thought I wanted to be an industrial chemist by industrial rather than university. But I thought I wanted to be an industrial chemist. Still, do they do lots more exciting things, I think the universities do even yet, except now that all the government support for the universities, universities are able to do more than they were then. OK, I think two things. One, my adviser had insisted that as a woman graduate, there was nothing I would ever be able to do except teach. No industry would ever think of hiring me, OK? That was the only advice I really got and it was not what I wanted. And so the Research Laboratories Now exam is interviewing with one I interviewed for Dow Corning and at Malapa and Zainal three. So all three of them came to Ohio State for a job interview to interview people. And they told me about this field. They had a vibrational spectroscopy that could tell you all about the atoms and molecules, and they needed people to help develop the knowledge of how to use something like what I want. And in fact, I was there for three years and I could still place I got to get that training. As far as I'm concerned. I am right there. We studied the textbooks. I studied Hertzberg. And I mean the guys we had in the group and the research group, there were two new these are the University of Illinois, and it was a top notch vibrational spectroscopy group. And we did real good work. So as far as I'm concerned, in my terms, my own background, I, I earned my points. Among other things, I got patents and some things that worked. So at that point, I was really one of the few experts in infrared spectroscopy. So I just never go back to school and I solve many problems. I didn't get back Longines with it, but I was so used to it. It was so obvious that I was at a major research lab and that the people I work with were very fine. They were all sharp. So at that point, I didn't even interview anyone that wasn't in the top 10 percent of the class as a start. And then we did down from there, so they had in their research center good people challenging people, nice people to work with. And what about women? Actually, they had a small group of women that mostly OK, I'll go back to what the first big project was. And I was put on there was a major patent fight over methods of cracking crude oil to make the different gasoline. And the question was, did you get the same results both ways? One thing, an infringement on the other. Well, I don't know how much you know about hydrocarbon mixtures, but there's lots of isomers. And the analysis is very complex. It starts with a distillation and with what we're doing, chromatography, countercurrent chromatography and in project would cut effect would be that we would get distillation cuts, fractions of stills anywhere between eight to 12 components that had to be analyzed. And we were developing the methods for that. And they were a lot of it was math. And so the group, I think, probably had been started by them by hiring a math major, a guy who was a math major at Vanderbilt. And I think that she was the one who had been there longest and then a couple other local bachelor chemists from the New Jersey area. I mean, this was over in New Jersey, say their research headquarters. So we had a group of about four of us there that in a section is I think the sections a whole was probably about thirty five people. And so that was very rich in women at that point. I was when they mostly gave me research projects to us. After the first six months, I learned how to do what they were doing and then they started giving me the research projects. But so there were there were women. There are more than had been school. Now, at what point did you meet your husband? Oh, my first husband at his high school sweetheart and he's off in the war and I. He expected to marry me when he came back and we did get married eventually, but that he still needed to go to school and so that's why I left. I think there's something else I'd like to mention about the project I had at the time. First off, there's two different patterns that has a group leader's name on them, too. But they were my work as these things progressed on characterization of complex mixtures by infrared spectroscopy. That's a very big field right now. That and the patent was a defensive patent. So they didn't have to pay license fees to any other country company. We never made any use of it, but it was a nice one. And another was something called the zero method of running an instrument, because I did some unorthodox things with how you and I know to be perfectly sensible to me. But then I didn't know enough not to try things that were sensible. So those two things were my major work then. The project was terrific because that part of it was studying the origin of petroleum so that the chemistry of it and we analyzed crude oil and things like that from the field and with the I work with the production department and the geologists and geological research. And the whole thing was a lot of fun. And when you came back, you want to go to Ohio State, and that was the first move I made. You know, we were married by then. I could do a full life. You left. So I left him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did. Everyone was like, well, well, I did want to get his degree. And that's where he wanted to go. So, you know, so that was the beginning of my first migraines to find out if and I was doing things I didn't want to do. I got migraines. That's just it's an interesting observation. Some took me a long time to figure out how to stop doing that, but so I thought this would be of interest. Battelle Memorial Institute, you know it. No, I think it's still the largest private research institution in the world. And it was at least at that time. Yes. Battelle Memorial Institute and its headquarters are still King Avenue in Columbus, Ohio. It was next door to the university. I never knew anything about it when I was at the university. This whole complex is pretty big and there was no earthly reason for me to know about it. I had advertised about the same time I was planning to move and I'm still at NASA. Research Labs had advertised for an infrared spectroscopy and I Broten said, I want an interview that becoming and that sort of thing. Never got an answer. No answer, not even an acknowledgement that my background attached some of my college records. And you didn't have the professional resume, people teaching you how to do resumes. You sat down and did your own thing. And then before I left there, the senior vice president of research and development for Standard Oil, the head of the unit. I was in the research facility at the research facility, and he called me into his office just to talk to me, son, before I left. And he asked what I was planning to do. And actually, I had two possible plans. One, there was to go back to school. I mean, if I could do anything else, I knew I could get a graduate, assistantship them and then work at Ohio State and go back to school. And the other was find a job doing what I was loving already already because I knew more about it than the university did at that point. But subsequently we ran courses. I taught a lot of university professors. So it it's just so new. And I was excited about it and wanted to do it. There was I didn't get an answer back then. Why do you think that when they didn't hire women for hired secretaries, they didn't I wouldn't really have a professional job. And I. Told the vice president of Ireland, I said, look, there is a possibility that right near for my husband to going to school, there's a research laboratory that's actually looking for someone to do infrared spectroscopy. And we talked about a little bit I told him what I'd done. He said, when you get to town, don't even call for an interview. He says you go to the headquarters and ask to see someone in charge, find out whose department that job is in and ask, see, there's no doubt it's going to be him. So I did that. And how did it go? I got the job. He says, I'll give you the job because you have the job. But so that was another time when one person, I guess, made a difference, made a difference to me was I think I would have done it anyway, but not was a confidence that he gave me. You need someone to say, hey, look, go do it. You are hurting me a little bit. On the other side of that, my mother's brother, the one who had gone to college, was an Ohio in Columbus, Ohio. And he knew a lot of people from knew some people from Battelle Memorial Institute here. I was looking and he had said, Claire, you can't get a job there. They don't hire women. He just assured me of that. But so I got it. And how long were you there? Nine years. I they had the equipment underneath the table. No one would dare to even unpack it. So I unpacked it and then it's. They didn't have any projects for me to see, I suppose I had to go out and see what I could do for them. They didn't know what this could do for them. And I he did send me to one of the right places. It was a group on organic coatings and plastics chemistry. Later, I also worked for the rubber group there a lot. But I just look over there and find out what they're doing and tell them what you can do to help them. And that's where I got into polymer science. Actually, at this point, maybe you should know that my ability to go on working at this age is that I have to face this. One of them is infrared spectroscopy, which has me tell a lot about materials. And in fact, when other people are saying the wrong things, that kind of thing, and to teach it and polymer science, plastics that he kochan compounds codings. This was an organic coatings. And so he sent me over there and I could see the man I went to see didn't really want to talk to me. He was busy doing his own work. It turned out to be a lifetime for it. And he still is still alive. It still is ten years older than I am. Not very good health, but still a good friend. But there I started doing work for them and sometimes one of the group leaders and I were talking and we were at lunch and we were talking about some of the work I'd done and I listened carefully to what he was saying. It was just the opposite of what I was saying. He kept saying, what was it? These reactions go, this is the accepted chemistry at that time and why violence is just this. This was this is the basic chemistry of varnishes. And then of all these similar compounds that go in all paints, there was no big deal at the time. And what he was saying was that what I was saying, this is just like that. And so we actually bootleg the work. We couldn't get a project. We didn't know. We we just went ahead and did it without any authority and came up with some very definitive information on what the chemical processes actually were that made dry. And it was enough of a good enough paper that, you know, anything about the Gorgon research conferences, know your chemistry background. A lot of your science background is like the garden research conferences or conferences started somewhere in the early forties, I think generally at that time or held in New England, where you people in a given field could go on invitation, but with a very definitive, definite no between one hundred and twenty five people. Max, the work you talked about reported on was not public at that point. Was that to be made public at that time? And it was a sharing of ideas on research and the SEC, the department manager, by this time similar, then I would have been there almost five years. And so the first man that I'd gone to is sort of a group leader, was now head of the department, that sort of thing. And he knew about this and put our paper in. And I put in the paper for that conference and I went to it. And my education actually continued through Gordon research conferences where people were coming and discussing original research on a regular basis. And I learned a lot of things there that were useful to me in development. But it. It caused a bit of a storm, it was a good enough paper. There were other research directors are going back to their people saying, why aren't we doing the kind of thing that she's doing that I've had friends come to me saying that and it was scheduled to be presented at the National American Chemical Society in nineteen fifty five. And I guess that paper and it won an award, as in this was in the division of organic coatings and plastics. Chemistry, I think was the name of that time. And it was given for the the award is still being given. It's not nearly as big a one as well as spectacular now because lots more words have come down the pike. But this one at that point was one of the few awards for papers and research given the access. And it had a ballroom full. People started writing awards and I gave the paper and we got I mean, it was it was a big step forward because people knew me all right now. And I just think I'd better back up a little bit. By this time, I had three children under four. And this is with your first marriage? First marriage. I had three children under four. It was the third one that they still kept in the hospital for a week. And I wrote my paper while I was in the hospital with him. Otherwise I would never have had the time to do it. I was I was working full time and had two babies to take care of. Right. Yeah. So it was good that they kept me in there for a week because I otherwise I don't really know. What was your award winning paper. Yeah. Yeah. I just otherwise I, I don't like to write and once I've seen the results on anything, I don't care what anyone else knows about whether I write it or not. You don't get a daily reports has always been the last thing I wanted to do, but that gave me the time to do it. And so, but the difference that made was recognition as an expert in the field of achievement that I knew what I was doing. I could do not only the physical running of the instrument and getting the data. I could do the research work leading to it. That's I think that that was important recognition at that time. That would have been nineteen fifty five and I was born in twenty four. How old was I. Thirty one. OK, yeah. Yeah. Well actually I think lots of people's major productivity isn't that sort of age bracket and creative things that they do before. As before you've learned how everyone else is going to do it. You go and do what you think ought to be done. Yeah, I mean, I believe that's a real part of it. You go in with a wide open mind. No one's ever shown you how to do it. Here's the problem. What do I do now? And so I think we have very good answers to the what do I do now? Because I know. So, yes, this was in the meantime, I had been married to my first husband, he left the school and instead of getting bills, this is not this thing. It would be interesting, I think, for about women. I keep forgetting this is about women. I think of myself more as a scientist than I explained he had taken had been in the war, but he took Reserve Officer Training Corps because he was not an officer in the war. And we were pretty sure that we're going to be more for more wars coming. And I mean, what weren't supposed to be but personally, after they were going to be so he took the ROTC, came out, the top man on the admin, got gathered the media. That was the only year, I think and I think also this fact is this is still true facts when when you graduated. And that's the tendency is in ROTC, the very next table stage, and gave them their report to do the orders he'd already served, been released and back to active duty. But it was over. It wasn't too far from Columbus, about 70 miles Wright Patterson Air Force Base, and he was stationed there the whole time. And at that time I was pregnant. By that time I was twenty six and family were saying, you know, you know, you can't have babies passed away. Come on. Well, it was a different time. It was a different time, a very different a different time. So I and I had planned the baby for September after he finished school, which is when she came of course, and we were living between Wright Patterson and Ohio State. And they somehow intuitively, I had bought only 40 miles from Columbus, let him go for a little distance to walk to the right. Patterson And at a Christmas party, Susie Susie was three years, three months old, and I was dancing with one of the other section heads from the Taliban invited to the Christmas party. We had been invited to Christmas party, my husband and I and he said, you know, my boss and he he sure says he misses Claire. They didn't have any good back up for me at that point. They really didn't. That was I had a couple of lab techs in there, but no one who really knew what I was doing. So I thought about that. And three months I had learned that although I had the prettiest, smartest baby girl I ever was, she really was an adult company. He needed some serious I needed I needed more. I knew I needed more. So after he did that, I cogitate it on it through December and the first week of January, I called my boss and said, could you use a part time spectroscope? And we the answer was yes. But then a question of how to do it, because Batel didn't have any policy for part time technical people. And I still wanted to run the infrared lab. And we ended up agreeing that if I could work half time, that he'd let me keep my position and the in the lab and they couldn't give me any other benefits because I wasn't full time. But they gave us very small incremental raise, hourly raise instead. And that's where we would work. I did that for the next six years. One fifty one, that would have been fifty two. And I think that in fifty two to fifty nine working a minimum of well we had a couple other agreements that made it easy. If I came over on Monday morning and worked through the evening Monday getting a twelve hour day and, and then work the next day, I was obviously we have halfway so I just had to go Monday and Tuesday, stay overnight one night. So it made it easier to get help for the baby. So submitted. So they did that much more for me. So for some reason the people that I needed to have been a little bit did they call it the what was it? I was a research consultant to staff and that didn't have to be I wasn't what you call a full time employee. My husband's version of that was that I worked half time. Forty eight hours a week. It was during the Korean War. We had lots of things come in that needed to be done, lots of work to do, just related to that. And so, yeah, but it made a difference. I was able to I could stay home if I needed to, if I had. Any problem with household help, like, say, home? If I had, I thought that's another point worth making. I have granddaughters now who are trying to work and raise babies, you see, and I don't think you have to try to do both of that help. I had live in help. I was my biggest single job. All the time I was raised in my family was making sure I had the right person as living help. That's the way I managed to do it sometimes. Didn't get very much cash, but that was the way I did that. Let me go ahead working. And it didn't hurt my children and they all came out of it very well. What are your children now? I have a son who's a CEO of a small company and he has his Ph.D. in international economics. I think he started out with it. He started out with an engineering management degree and then an MBA and then B.S. in international economics. He's CEO of a company right now, and that's another whole story. His lives above the store. He has multiple things going on in his wife and four daughters. So I just came back from nothing but and so I had two boys and two girls. Susie, my oldest girl, is a teacher at a private school in the New City School in St. Louis. She herself has five children. Yes, she taught science, but she majored in biology and taught science from grade one to five at sort of experimental private school. That's very unusual. And then has since moved to she won the class where she could have a greater impact. And she's teaching fifth grade now. And she really wants to do is get back to school and get her get an advanced degree so that she can teach teachers to teach. So she's got she's got a new goal because she does very creative things to teach history and some of those subjects. And she said Steve's alliance, the team that was there and who engaged Steve and got his law degree, is still at a bachelor's level with modern courses getting their fields of interest teaching. And then my youngest daughter also has she went on and got an MBA and then is a certified corporate auditor. And that has she's apparently very good at it. And she for a long time did her own business because she'd seen my kids, your mother, doing her own business. And so and so they both share. My son, who's now CEO of a merged holding company thing, also has his own business on the side. But she's doing fantastically well. I mean, in terms of trying to find all the time, I turned out it all. But the baby wanting children, I mean, she's her children. I've got a grand horse from her and then dogs. I don't have kids. But now that they've turned out fine, but they did always have good care. This this is that was my first priority. And if when I was 18 months old and trained my legs, I didn't have to go out the door. It was the part time thing really made it work. And they really helped you. It helped me go ahead doing it. Then what was your last question? When I backtracked and said something I shouldn't, you know, I was over something that I thought I couldn't answer without going back to that. At 19, 15, I think it is about your husband. Oh, my. I'm still have the same husband at this point, but once again, is that going to move us 1959 his death and move us and you're going to follow? No, I'm sort of fed up with the only answer I could see was to buy my own spectrometer and start my own business. So I ran a moving spectrometer with the as I mentioned, I had a pretty good reputation, some publications, some patents. And I had clients that wanted to work at Battelle that wanted kinds of work done that Battelle would not permit. They mostly had to do if there's anything that was say things relating to patent work, they didn't want to do anything. Or if they had one big company, they were doing research that was against another big companies that they knew they were. They didn't have to be in content related, but they just didn't want to do anything that one company would one customer would frown on. So there was there was work that I could have done. I thought I could do that. I was could not undertake contracts. I could not undertake it. Battelle and I decided if I had my own equipment, I could undertake them. And that's why I did. And that that was no small thing, because we were both beginning in our salary, weren't all that big. And I was put most of mine into child care so that we had always bought our own house and sold my first house. That would be my second house. Equity for US Equity went into buying one in Columbus, but the second one when the down payment was spectrometer, OK? And I had some help from the company that makes the spectrometers, the guy, the man who was head of the Research and development and sales management, a very well known figure in the spectroscopy world at the time, who died too young for him to be a name. You would have heard heard that I was thinking of getting a spectrometer. And he said if she is going to start a business using infrared spectroscopy, she has to have our equipment. So the deal was that I could sort of name my price, that I named a reasonable one. I mean, I wasn't being paid. And they got the bank loan and I paid it off the bank when they sent me back the note. So otherwise, I see the value of those four spectrometers is about twice the value of the house at that time. So they've come down in price. Well, they haven't come down in price about the price range, the houses with the equity in my house and then backing the loan up in Connecticut where they lived, where I was able to go to work my own equipment. And then when we were able to equipment with me and mostly we would we have that payment for a house to start with that we leased. I think we went to Evansville for a few years with his job and then that one again moved to New Jersey just and we found a place to live for. He could commute into Brunswick and I in the Princeton School District. We lived there for ten years. Nine and a half moved in. Might be an exaggeration and always got big houses. So I either had a a wing two living room big enough to divide some way of running a laboratory. So I decided. So what were the main challenges of having your own business, having this moving business, having this moving spectrometer business? It's a complete delight. Makes chances were that a lot of it was in that as much research, more applications that there is there's a difference in research, sees a lot of the same techniques and such like I was I was no longer doing research in spectroscopy. I was using spectroscopy to do research and or problem solving in other fields is precisely what you do. And it is that period. Then the work I took on that involved defending patents and such was very similar. I thought we were first analyzing for when I went to Esso, but it was in different fields. I was there for us in the United States gypsum. I was one of my biggest clients at that point and the head of the patent department who had a background as a chemist had gotten to know me through some other contacts and gave me a pretty continuous work for quite a while, almost as much as I wanted to do. So it didn't take long, but I didn't have to get a whole lot more to give one. But it's also where I first became involved in legal work there. And most of what I've done in many years has been infrared spectroscopy for legal purposes. And there were cases that I still do that. And what are some examples of those type of projects? What what are some examples of those type of projects? Well, first, let me talk about a couple different. The first one that U.S. Gypsum had required a lot of research, and we did end up with two papers, along with two published papers out of it. It had to do with the wet streets, resins they used in lot more United States gypsum wallboard. And it's it's the gypsum. And that's where you do it. On each side is paper that is multilayered paper that's all glued together, but runoff some different layers. So that's the whole process is fascinating. So I think I was made to be an industrial chemist. I really do, because I like going through the paper mills and seeing what they were doing and how they were doing. That production is a big thing. How fast can you pull these things off and you're rolling out these wallboard sheets and you have to cut them off to the length. You know, the big blade comes down that is big as across the room and cut them into. And the speed of cutting through the paper off is a very critical point. And they had a patent on a wet streets, resin. Once wet streets, residents were know that non-usable, wet streets, resin, a very low level and paper greatly and improved it increased the speed of which you could cut it and National Gypsum started infringing and no one thought we could prove it. So technically, it was a real chance. It was it was a real challenge. I developed several techniques then and we as I say, there were a couple of publications on after this whole thing was over on determining admission of this kind of materials. And the John, this was this patent attorney was one who encouraged me to write it down and say, let's finish it up and we're back with a few more standards and things that could flush out a scientific paper. You could solve a problem for you. Quite reached the point of fleshing it out for reasonable scientific paper. And he would sometimes insist on that. We did other things on that rather than the reactions, you know, the three old would rather than gum, rather different kinds of Rosnes looking at chemical structure differences and that for some other applications he had and that we published a paper on the reactions, they were considered equivalent. And yet he was pretty convinced they weren't for a lot of reasons. And it turns out that some of them needed proper adex with Malaysia hydride at a great much greater concentration than the other did. And we worked on that and proved it could structure of what we were getting published there for quite a while now and not giving any details are still going on. It's been a failure. Adhesions are everything stuck together and there's a lot of chemistry and some of it works well and some of it doesn't. And so a lot of innocent civilians ranging from the double-sided when the sealants, I think most people think about it, but the glass, the wind and the heat and everything makes a lot of working of the glass against those gaskets that are inside. And they fail like one major, rather prolonged job had to do with litigation involved in that when I would have been almost a rather in coast to coast failures in development to reduce a certain product on the manufacturers of premium that none of the field was theirs, you know, that kind of thing. Anyhow, that that was one of them. Get the gasket work there. Another one is in the skyscrapers. And this has already sort of pasted on scary, scary, you know, other just pasted on and failure in some of those could be disasters. And I did one job at a really big skyscraper where we took samples of all the floors have out the is sorted out and around and look back or and or we got on a one of these the arrangements to see the window washers use going up outside these buildings, taking samples off the outside as we took it apart. And in that case, I think it was important that I be there. First off, on some of those jobs, you just about have to collect the samples and see what you're doing. Now, back up on that one a little bit because they had started sending mainlanders to. I have full scale windows in my laboratory to try to work on, and I was finding some material that I couldn't understand where it came from, but I had not been given any information about whose product it was, what it was supposed to be composed of, just no background information. So we were not getting very far. We decided that we had to go down, track my own samples anyway to get closer to where in the world this separation was actually happening. So I took on a very competent chemist that worked for me in my own lab. We collected samples from the failing windows in the skyscraper and I could actually smell the material that was thought. I had still had to prove it. But I it was a component that I was finding a derivative of in the ones that already dried, but it was just too much of it in the formulation. So it's fun. It's fun to do these things. It's challenging. And you don't know if you can you can't always do them all that you can do enough. I really contributed. You had people working for you. Oh, yes. How many? By the time I sold my lab, I had three Ph.D. chemists and two technicians, a bookkeeper and a sort of thing that I think maybe eight or nine is the most I ever had was a small lab that had good, well functioning lab. But it's still in business. I sold it in 91. I sold it because I was taking care of my mama. You can't run a small shop and be with someone all the time. And it was a case of needing to be with her all the time. And there's someplace where it's it's like it's called Kimia. EMI are Polytech. My second husband and I had I had had I had never named the lab until I was it was his classmates consultant or something like that. I just never going to their name. And my first husband's name was Smith and it was this Clarity Smith consultant. And that was all. People just need to know a phone number because it was all word of mouth, the. What I was going to remarry, I decided that wasn't going to work very well and decided I needed to leave the lab and did I need that kimia chemical for Katie and I are kimia. And so it went under that name in St. Louis all the time or not all of the time. I knew before I started doing that. And then later I decided I could know what I had. A nice lab, a really big place. I had a really nice home and be going on if it was my laboratory work just fine. I was always very careful that I didn't do anything that my neighbors could complain about. So you have to when you're in neighborhoods using chemicals and you have to be very careful. And I was but no one ever complained. But I decided at some point in the late eighties, I guess, that if I were going to ever have anything out of the lab, I had to get it out of the house. So we bought a building and put it OK, established there. And so and then I sold it when I just got so overwhelmed with taking care of my mother that she had Alzheimer's. 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You know, I enjoyed it. Like it tapered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=11.07,14.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"off. We were traveling a lot with my husband and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=14.61,17.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he and he retired. He was 10 years older than 10","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=17.37,20.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years older than me. And we after he retired, we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=20.88,25.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did start spending a lot of time in worldwide","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=26.1,28.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"travel. So he retired with them basically. 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My mother, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1556.64,1559.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess I did that like that. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1559.19,1562.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"somehow I knew that wasn't true. 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And their preschool is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1716.02,1719.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a matter if they sleep at all 10 in the morning","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1719.2,1722.05"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you can keep them up till 10:00 at night and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1722.05,1724.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have six hours of good time with them or four","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1724.24,1727.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or five anyhow, you have plenty of quality time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1727.87,1730.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with them. I spent lots of time with my kids. I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1730.75,1733.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spent more than most of the labor women did with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1733.81,1735.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theirs apart at once. I got my lab, I was always","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1735.7,1739.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. I could see them out the front door and go","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1739.69,1743.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back, get a cup of coffee and walk out of my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1743.44,1745.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"laboratory. So having my lab help the Battelle's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1745.06,1749.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being willing to bend their rules helped made it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1749.23,1752.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"work before that. What can be done to help women","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1752.71,1757.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"today? Like you, you have the help with Bittoun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1757.78,1760.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What needs to be done. Oh you mean in terms of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1761.32,1763.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"structure?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1763.18,1763.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Actually, I think it would be good for the entire","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1766.96,1768.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"society to get off of this 40 hour or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956#t=1768.85,1770.86"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36745/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/745/original/AV205399_Craver_2.vtt?1650911415","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/745/original/AV205399_Craver_2.vtt?1650911415"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36746","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205399_Craver_2.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158956/transcript/36746/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- You said, Ali, at the beginning, how what advice you give to someone as you do what you have to do? I would have had no intentions of selling that for forever. You know, I enjoyed it. Like it tapered off. We were traveling a lot with my husband and he and he retired. He was 10 years older than 10 years older than me. And we after he retired, we did start spending a lot of time in worldwide travel. So he retired with them basically. Well, I didn't really, because I kept the lab going or so there were a couple of these guys I'd hired that he'd keep a lot of the stuff going while I took off. I think the longest I was ever gone was six weeks. But do they still do the same kinds of work? The man who bought it has expanded and he was not that strong. Spectroscopy. He was a very strong polymer scientist. So that's what I got in this among my husband's early experience. He was he was a Monsanto man all his life. And I said early experience. He was sort of Mr. Polymer Science. And his story is another major story. But because I have a lab and was doing things and he had the time and wasn't doing anything, he started with labs just to do some. I wasn't testing that kind of thing. And so we had a lot of the same building. We had Polytech and Timir and when the when we sold them to them, the current owner bought most and missed them. But life. POLYCARP So you could find it most ads and most scientific and lots of publications. Now, did you and your husband ever collaborate together and work on projects together? Oh, I think yes. In a way, this would have been during the many years I knew him as a colleague. I told you about the winning the award earlier back in the fifties. I first met him there because he had just been made chairman of that division of the American Chemical Society, and it fell upon him to be sure that my colleague and I getting the award showed up for the presentation. So he took us to breakfast that morning. This first time I'd met him and there was some period while I was in New Jersey when Monsanto he had some projects I could work on. I would have been in the sixties, I guess, one times. So we were in the same division and working together a lot, both professionally for the field and then the chemical society and also. There weren't any really big projects, but some that I did for Monsanto that were his under his research, we knew he mostly was a he moved to being a technical forecaster and he was in the technology forecaster for Monsanto and helped to plan the directions and what they were going to do. And this would be after I married him, he and I collaborated some on some of his methodology. I adopted Vahid where I started doing some of what he did in my lab. I started doing some of what he did when he was very active in the International Society for Technology Assessment. So we went to those meetings in Europe and they were there. One of the things I started out of petroleum and one of the things that I my knowledge of them and the asphalt's and the things that the assault teams and the materials in them and the kinds of compounds in petroleum led me down the pathway of identifying oil spills. And I collaborated with the US Coast Guard Laboratory and both those in New England and in a special project on the West Coast just outside of L.A.. So I also had written some papers on this subject and was an invited speaker, one of these International Society for Technology Assessment meetings with Monaco, with Jacques Cousteau and the chairman and Prince Rainier, the co-chairman. It was a pretty nice week because they were concerned about oil spills. I mean, they both were fond of the Mediterranean. That was getting awfully dirty. And all the week's papers, Prince Rainier came below and three of them and mine was one of them. So that was sort of a nice little plus for them. Meantime, Jacques Cousteau and I were sort of loggerheads a good part of the time where he ended up writing me a very lovely poem before it was all over. But I stood up to him and some of his craziness pretty strongly a few times of his life. So I said, I want to talk to him, but it was a good life together. Some of your other travels were, oh, well, we haven't talked a lot about the fact that I teach that stuff. OK, all right. Taking the charter, you get off the spectrometer and relating to the molecules is its borders between art and science. You have to put a lot of things together to do it. And it takes. Some very special training, let's just put it like that, I sort of grew up with it because it was being developed at the same way that my husband can have grown up with the field of science because it was being developed to see was coming as they both started strong at the same time. But in nineteen sixty five, about the time we were, the country was trying to help South America out of a lot of doldrums, get back into the industry and into research and institutions. The Pan American Union and several of our government agencies, three or four went together to sponsor a course in Brazil. It was a three week course that we went to University San Pablo and gave I'd been I had already I started giving courses in this in 1959 at Fisk. It was called the Fisk Institute, which was originally held on. This is another thing that has a mark of the time. It was a collaborative course by Vanderbilt University, sponsored a physicist at Vanderbilt and at Fisk University, has done a black university. It's one of the oldest traditional black schools. It was deliberately not a tech school. It was to give a broad education. IT and the Maharey, the three colleges at my college, three places close together, went in to sponsor this course in the. Late 60s, because I first went down there in 59 and they'd had a couple of shorts that two or three day courses, they decided they wanted to have interpretational Specter added to their course and invited a colleague of mine since that year and me down to help teach it to two of us. So I have taught infrared interpretation in one way and the other. Many times I do it annually at one of our big spectroscopy meetings called the Pittsburgh Conference. And I that's another whole story about the Pittsburgh conferences and why it's so big. I have heard of that. It's the largest instrument sold in the world, among other things, that we have about mid 30s in terms of attendance. Thirty thousand there. So that includes us all sorts of fields. It includes not only the scientists but the instrument manufacturers. It's the place to show a new piece of equipment that can do things and still question worldwide. It's the place. So I teach infrared interpretation, especially the interpretation part, and give other talks doing such a course on how to apply it and what the pitfalls are, where you get into trouble, that sort of thing. So I've done that since nineteen fifty nine in sixty five. We took the course in an expanded form to Brazil under the auspices of this organization that's telling you about. And it was a very big success. We were going to be doing it both the next in Argentina and then enjoy that year in Argentina was the year that the government rated the universities and was gelling all the physics and everything. And my colleague from there was head of he was a he's a physicist, was head of the Atomic Energy Commission. He escaped one night with nine of his graduate students and he went to Fisk. Since this has a big good physics department and spectroscopy now. And of course, we're giving it at Vanderbilt and I direct there now and it's short. We just do the one week of interpretation and three afternoons of lab with all the accessories and equipment. But there was a reason why I started all of this about Fisk, what you did when it first started and it would have been Welters then holding it at Vanderbilt University for lots of reasons, like blacks were not allowed to be there, blacks could not be at Vanderbilt. And that's why we had that many blacks in the course. That was the point. Fisk just wouldn't join in something like that. So we had it at Fisk University for a long time on the first campus, but they fell on. This is no part of this. I tell about after we shot that thing off, we ended up back at Vanderbilt, but we are doing it at Vanderbilt now. Have been I've been directing that since about nineteen eighty eight now. So and you still do work in South America or other that we're not. No, we didn't go ahead with doing that there. I along the way I've done things that took me to other countries. Right now I'm collaborating some with a Chinese woman who's doing research work on cancer detection, using spectroscopy. And I'm just helping her ministers emailing and sending me suspected interpret for a long time. When computers first came on the scene, I had a very strong speculative search program that was written, not written by me, but the logic by me and the program by, I think, one of the smartest computer scientists I saw. He he could make the program, do exactly what I wanted done. And we distributed it in New York for a while. It was before you had everyone had your own computers. That's when computers were in a research lab, needed what computers could offer. They signed up to a time share system, tonsure computer science. And it was a national organization. Well, that actually worked internationally, too. So I did that. And then I said, what do you think about technology transfer? Does it work? Is it is it helpful? Yes. Now, the our office. It was called the. I think I need to know what you're specifically referring to because. Is both assessment and transfer, and if I use the transfer when I'm in assessment, I might have because I do both the International Society of Technology Assessment and in our government, they're going to go back to having that again. The last I heard, they had discontinued it for a while. They formed that so that the Congress had an institute would have an institution to turn to a think tank type of thing in D.C. to turn to to consider the technical aspects of whatever legislation might consider passing. That's what I don't know. Then maybe for the years that you've been most alert about it, somehow it got discontinued by some government. And I think it's coming back now. Well, I worked at a technology transfer institute. We actually have theoretical and applied physics. So it was a and it's OK. And we had scientists and scholars from around the world. Now, I don't know that much about the technical things because I'm not that scientific. But they would come, they would take courses, they would have applications. And then, of course, they would go back to the country and apply, you know, use it there. And so I think I'm talking about it in a general sense. What is your experience in that? That's something I have to think about how I would put it there, because certainly all the time you're teaching, you're doing technology transfer. And think about you're taking people from where they stand in the technology they know and telling them how to apply it to other things. So technical treat teaching is almost a part of that between countries. You almost take them a product and hand it to them. I think, rather than international science, communication is pretty strong. And if you know how to do something much better than someone else does, they want to know about it. I've we took methodology to Mexico a lot. We took method, me being my husband and me and also China. I interacted with a number of research institutes in China because I was invited to give one series of lectures over there sponsored by the Chinese government when they first pulled out of the Red Guard type problem. And the universities have been so decimated and people hadn't kept they didn't have books that were. So I gave a series of lectures there over a long period. And I don't you call. Technology transfer is a strange thing, assessments are different thing, but they're both very interesting and I think they're very needed, but unfortunately often have people who know the methodology and don't know the science doing it. I am not quite sure why I felt that was very much true of the original OTA office technology assessment in Washington. I knew and became very close friends of people who worked there because we were involved enough in it. But they weren't scientists, I mean, there are people who still do it, but they have methodology for transfer. I think that's a little off the path that we were talking about some time, but it's what you do it all the time. I've given papers and technology transfer meetings. My husband had a few rounds of being secretary, supposed to be with paper, and I could give it because the subject matter. I also knew what about events in certain conferences that you attended or you present to that? And what about professional organizations? And you remember that? Yes, I have I 50 some year member of the American Chemical Society. Yes, I was in the student chemical society at Ohio State as president of the Student Chemical Society, and I have been chairman of the Division of of Polymeric Materials Science and Engineering. I have been a counselor now for 20 some years and the counselor and I've served on many of the committees. I was now nominated to be president about three or four years ago, but I don't think I got around to make enough speeches. I, I didn't get it. I think that's a two stage process. And I was nominated to our counsel and our counsel was mostly made up of local section counselors and not very many division counselors in it. And I found this helpful. Helpful? Oh, I think they're absolutely necessary. Now that you're talking about now networking in the sense of learning from other people. I go to six major conferences a year. I have certainly I could not do that in the beginning when I work for another organization. But that stopped in 1959 and gradually to keep up in the fields, you must get to the conferences. Not so much to hear the papers, which another few months later you can read about in a journal, but to talk to the people who are doing the work and to get to know them. And so I go to the local symposium, the Federation of Analytical Chemistry and Spectroscopy Societies, to the national meetings of the American Chemical Society every year. I mean, these these are essential. And I until rather recently, I had attended one or two garden conferences each year as I was head of the infrared garden conference. For me to assess that is such a select group of people to be voted to be chairman of the EPA, you feel like some people said, we respect what you do when your peers have done that. What what other types of recognition or awards have you received? You know, I have a wall for what I do. And the I what I prefer doing on that is just to make a copy some I might copy it off because I've had some visitors want a new lawyer or firm is going to know about me. I can it to them. I don't think I could really reassemble anything that stands out in particular, particularly proud and. Well, one of the ones there is a society of vibrational spectroscopy, the infrared spectroscopy. I feel it's I haven't even told you what it is. You don't even know how much fun it is. But we have a society named after the man who first in nineteen hundred and five with his PhD thesis, discovered the things that we use every day in this field as a slave like that. His name was called Unstability Kopans, and he was what I was saying about what I was asking you if you had read any autobiographies or some meeting people, because he added, Fascinating that this Copan society was founded in nineteen seventy four. I was at his organization organizing meeting and I've worked with all of these years. I've published a lot of my data books for them through them. I still do work on it. We're trying to get it all into the computer formats these days and they have to award annual, I think, to outstanding industrial spectroscopy. And I got that fairly early on. And that was pretty special because once again, it's your peers saying you're doing good and that's the kind that really mean the most. I I gave a course to the US Customs in November of last year and twenty people from the US Customs who just lost their home at the World Trade Center. I believe it was just a four day course when I gave it to them, I think. And anytime you do one of these things, you get a certificate or some sort of nice. Kept saying US Customs and a few other nice things. There has to be some that were more outstanding than others, but they all mean something. Have you seen along the way more women getting recognition in chemistry related? Oh, yes. There there are more. They are mostly university teachers. But our current president, president elect of the American Chemical Society is a woman. Maxine Singer. Know no, that's a different that's a different a different field. But I'm getting tired of what's happening there. I'm diabetic and sometimes it's not really a part of Ulcerate monies. Yeah, that's right. He also and I have been friends for quite a while. She's considerably younger than I am. And I think I sort of helped bring her along to the chair. We got through the chairs of the American Chemical Society and now has it worse because I think the AT\u0026T Bell Labs Lucent needs it now. But where in which area of the country, what is it in New Jersey? I think we wanted to get in touch with Elsa has been a outstanding researcher. She has she somehow has had touch and hit the nanometre scale for electronic chips and things like that. That's because I think it was it's now Lucent before it was listed, it was Bell Labs and they were doing a lot of the outstanding research on computer chips. And since I don't know the number of patents that well over 100 patents she got for them, she's got a number of major science awards, fairly young woman yet, and just strong and vibrant, bright and good person. She's president elect. As you see, her address is still Lucent. So you start wondering if I can give it to you. Now, she's had a different kind of advantage in that her father is deceased and her mother lives with her. And so her mother is the one at home. And you see her already helped out. She's the family member for the kids in school. Yeah. You have to somehow you have to cope with that if it isn't on your mind when you're at work. I think that's true in science. How do you do that? But just get very comfortable that they have very good help. I I did a lot of sleeping when I first hired someone of finding the mid-morning that I just suddenly forgotten something and go back home. Oh yes, I did a lot of that, as anyone know, and we did some very careful searching I. I just don't think it's fair to anyone to try to do it all right now and try to listen to my granddaughter who's trying to do at all three babies in a job. What advice do you give her? I look at your budget again and find a way to hire help. Yeah, they've they've had a lot of backup help from both from both his parents and her parents. Her mother is my daughter. And I see my Soozie worn out by helping take care of these kids and her and her job and her house. And they think they need to do something else. They need to you just have to say I can do without things and hire the help I need. I don't need a bigger house. I need someone in here helping run this. How does a woman make it in science or in business for that matter, just by going in and doing it? I don't think there's any that I have always been among professional people who treated me well. And it's very seldom you really feel put down now. The salary scale is not up there. You know darn well with another little guy with the same level job. It's going to be earning more money by quite a bit even in the chemistry profession. And so, you know that in that way we're not equal, but I've never had any. That's a similar size. Any incident where men threatened me in any way if that's that's. But you take care of that. You take care of all of them. That kind of problem is what do you attribute your success? No one ever remember to tell me that a girl is inferior to a man like someone background or will ever remember to tell me that my grandma didn't act like that. My mother, I guess I did that like that. And somehow I knew that wasn't true. I just did it. You just do it now. I can't understand. I mean, I you know, there's a lot of people who feel like they're held back because they're a woman. But if you can do the job, they're part of it, I think is the particular field I'm in is tough enough that if you can do it well, you have people's respect. Right. And so I can't speak at all to what it is. And there's things that men could do equally, as many men could do equally as well as you do this one colleague of mine that I've talked with all this time is terrific. And I owe that to other people that might come close to knowing what he and I did. And you don't feel threatened now? I'm ignorant about in the beginning about a lot of things that I work on, but you have to learn about that. Yet when you're applying and this way it matters a technology to things across the board, from oil exploration to pollution control to how this is what makes sticky stuff right. You have to do what you learn a lot about a lot of things. What has been the most difficult part of your career? The most challenging aspect. I don't think I've found anything difficult, it had helped to been paid more. I wouldn't say I would be very serious, but I said there were years when you consider the extra costs of going to work every day, the clothes, the car and all of that, and plus paying. I sometimes pay to people, people to help take care of the house. When I had my third little one, I wanted them. Don't misunderstand me. I always wanted children. I wanted sex. But I stopped it for good. I stopped for when I suddenly saw the demands of being a mother of an elementary school child was going to be a lot more time consuming. I never made structured time management and I might have been able to do better than I did. But I that's that's making it all fit into the time when my children were little. I mean, preschool, my first husband and I just didn't do much of anything else except take care of the children. And their preschool is a matter if they sleep at all 10 in the morning and you can keep them up till 10:00 at night and you have six hours of good time with them or four or five anyhow, you have plenty of quality time with them. I spent lots of time with my kids. I've spent more than most of the labor women did with theirs apart at once. I got my lab, I was always there. I could see them out the front door and go back, get a cup of coffee and walk out of my laboratory. So having my lab help the Battelle's being willing to bend their rules helped made it work before that. What can be done to help women today? Like you, you have the help with Bittoun. What needs to be done. Oh you mean in terms of structure? 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And I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=405.71,408.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thank you very much for sharing this insight. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=408.74,411.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is there any questions, any topics that you would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=411.17,414.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like to discuss that we haven't touched? 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I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=416.42,418.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going just to send you some things because there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=418.97,420.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have been things written before,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=420.98,422.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mostly sort of one of them here that was totally","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=424.52,428.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out of my field, the women's leader on or working","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=428.66,432.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the YMCA, the YWCA. 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And he has","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=443.0,445.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"someone just nominated me for the professional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=445.31,447.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that was before they had one for technical. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=447.2,449.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess that you can have copies or something. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=449.87,452.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can read that. I just didn't have the time to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=452.43,454.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pull it. Yeah. And these are the things that have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=454.42,459.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been considered newsworthy at different times,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=459.71,462.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different papers different. 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That's the only","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=478.67,482.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"piece. 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And how do I put this. 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You're very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=514.58,517.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well respected. Well, I think I, I think yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=517.7,521.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've been a good girl. I respect other people. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=521.81,525.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"share a credit with anyone that deserves credit. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=525.8,528.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help other people by providing. Information and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=528.89,532.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ideas that they can go ahead and use, and I don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=532.31,536.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have any sense of self aggrandizing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=536.66,541.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like I told my granddaughter when she was about to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=545.69,548.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have her first baby, I said, don't worry. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=548.91,551.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hasn't stopped her. No trouble at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=551.1,553.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lots of wonderful people. And I have traveled a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=561.97,564.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=564.72,565.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the whole month. And China's the time. 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I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=572.97,577.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mean, in terms of the it was primitive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=578.79,580.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So a lot of the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=584.83,587.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Traveling was because it also fit into what my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=592.31,594.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"husband did. Maybe we just both did a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=594.53,596.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"international conference and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=596.57,598.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I still have a few places I want to go to, some of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=601.91,605.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the places I want to go back there, I'm seeing a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=605.3,607.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lot of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=607.64,607.97"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36747/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/747/original/AV205399_Craver_3.vtt?1650911420","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/747/original/AV205399_Craver_3.vtt?1650911420"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36748","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205399_Craver_3.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957/transcript/36748/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- For all workers, that would be just for women, something you can do with your personal life and still have a work if you want to as a career. What's been the most rewarding part of your career? Oh, that that's hard to say in terms of of my career has been the most rewarding part has been the colleagues I've had and still have. I have people that I have known for 50 years now that I associate meetings, go to talk about current research with or go out to dinner and a group or do things with. And they know me better than my family ever did. We know each other. So I say the most rewarding thing is the working with other people with good minds and good interests. And what are the current projects that you're working on now? You mentioned and then the U.S. Customs in the fall? Well, this is, of course, that comes out of the category of my short course teaching. And this I do I've been doing every year at the Pittsburgh conference, every year for a week at Vanderbilt University, other courses in-house from people want them. And like the one at Customs, which I put together with, I did it for the forensic science desk, for a forensic scientist, police departments for several years, those. So I'd say this thing that goes on now that I'm still doing is teaching others how to do this because it's a vanishing art. A lot of people are trying to do it by computers and making big mistakes. That is, the instruments are sold with now with equipment for searching libraries. And they have steadfastly refused to put in the things that really matter about accurate identification. They wanted to just use these squares, analysis and things like that, and that's not the way it should be done. You ask about organizations. When I said about the analysis right now, I have long been in the ASTM committee, the American Society for Testing Materials that committees for setting up methods. And I still serve there. And right now what I'm trying to fight down is this problem of the computer searching. If they can be done better that they are teaching I'm doing now is telling people is to let people recognize when the answer they've gotten that computer is wrong, why it can't be right. And to look for any nexus, because I have legal cases now where people are sitting there defending wrong answers. So so I must be doing illegal work in the short course teaching. And I could see other things that would be a researcher. I'm just almost for nothing. I mean, I'm just like a heavenly madam. And China, her husband is with the National Academy of Science there. I don't think she is, but she's doing respectable research work. I function is I've been past chairman of the ASTM committees in my field. See the chairs. The problem behind them still on the executive committee is that the Progress Society I've been with it ever since, formed in nineteen fifty four and I'm still doing a lot of their project work for them. The American Chemical Society, I mentioned briefly, I'm serving it right now on a committee relating to the scientific decisions as they are organized within the society. It's called the Divisional Activities Committee. I'm on the executive committee of the of the. Polymer science, Catering's Polymeric, Materials Science and engineering division, I was chairman of the Art and Science Executive Committee chairman and for now I have and I have serious minded input in the audience of the American Society of Plastic Materials, sets up methods that, once they are accepted here, are usually kicked up to the international year of pure applied chemistry. And a lot of them become international methods. Some of what we're doing right now is with our National Institute of Science and Technology and the Society. That's the old NBA system. Quite a bit of work in collaboration with them. So I do a lot of things where I give away my time. Now, we have any time for travel. Are you not traveling much anyway? Well, first, I live six months and cycles and six months in Florida, so that gives me a nice definition of yes. I go to international conferences. One of the courses I gave up three years ago now was in Wales at the University Glamorgan. So I was going to go over there to some other visiting. Yes, yes. I spent some time in London, some time in Ireland, gave a course of theoretical more than that do to do something like that. Again, there are international conferences in my field and sometimes I still go to them, not always, but sometimes because I just have my plate full, it sounds like, and I really do. I have a full plate. And since my husband died, it's just been my option to stay with a full plate. I was tapering off. You said he was retired and wanted to go away and I indeed did taper back on quite a bit, but I never cut my ties. I don't know as well as it was ten years old. And I just think I always knew the statistics would have said I was going to spend some time alone and I was I just wasn't ready them. So between that mg of twenty children, so I had a place that I was there, not my responsibility, but that's part of it and still interested and try to help them along and encourage them. It's, it's, it's a bit like you ask asking what was the most thing I suppose. I think the thing that's been most rewarding my children are rewarding, but professionally, the things that are most rewarding, I think, is the ability to work with lots of different colleagues in different fields, because what I do is pretty diverse. I have some specialty that I can bring to a lot of problems. So therefore, this has been wonderful information for us. And I thank you very much for sharing this insight. And is there any questions, any topics that you would like to discuss that we haven't touched? So I'll probably think of something when I see this. I was going just to send you some things because there have been things written before, mostly sort of one of them here that was totally out of my field, the women's leader on or working with the YMCA, the YWCA. They have an annual Women's Leader Award here in St. Louis. Pretty stiff competition. Well, I don't know. And he has someone just nominated me for the professional. And that was before they had one for technical. I guess that you can have copies or something. Yeah, I can read that. I just didn't have the time to pull it. Yeah. And these are the things that have been considered newsworthy at different times, different papers different. So I will make copies of these. I didn't have that kind of time and send you from seventy seven. Oh so you have the documentation. I have to keep those things up and in detail for the legal work. That's the only piece. I don't like keeping records on myself when I first started doing it on patents and I still do it and these people don't try. And how do I put this. The light on the other side don't really try to put me down when I see the awards I have won, the recognition I have gained from my peers. They will me about what I've really done on the job and things like that. But I haven't had any who even the ones that are known for getting up and trying to put you down in the first place have not done that to me. You're very well respected. Well, I think I, I think yeah, I've been a good girl. I respect other people. I share a credit with anyone that deserves credit. I help other people by providing. Information and ideas that they can go ahead and use, and I don't have any sense of self aggrandizing. Like I told my granddaughter when she was about to have her first baby, I said, don't worry. That hasn't stopped her. No trouble at all. Lots of wonderful people. And I have traveled a lot. That's the whole month. And China's the time. It was just first coming out from under the communist regime. Terribly backward place at the time. I mean, in terms of the it was primitive. So a lot of the. Traveling was because it also fit into what my husband did. Maybe we just both did a lot of international conference and. I still have a few places I want to go to, some of the places I want to go back there, I'm seeing a lot of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73112/file/158957#t=0.0,782.49796"}]}]}]}