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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40493/file/112126/transcript/25189/annotation/1062","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- And I'd like to welcome you to this session of the 6th Annual Conference on Religious Ethics. Gary Comstock, who founded this series, is on leave this year. So Mary Sawyer, our colleague in Religious Studies, has taken the lead. And I think it would be appropriate if we recognized her and all of the work that she's done at this time. And we also would like to thank Ann Miller of the Lecturers Committee for all of the work that she's done. She's really the one who keeps us going on the right track and she's back again. If you don't have the folder that announces the different sessions, there are some in the back and you may receive one on the way out, which tells about the session for example tonight with Professor Charles Long and then there's another one tomorrow noon and tomorrow night Tomorrow afternoon there's a special opportunity for especially students, as well as faculty, to meet in discussion groups. And I'll just mention them now. That's 3:30 to five o'clock with these speakers and guests who are here, Florence Howe, Charles Long, and Melba Boyd. With Florence Howe and Charles Long will be meeting in Ross Hall and Melba Boyd in Sloss House. After this session, I and Pam Miller will be at the door. And if you would like, we'll give you the exact rooms in Ross Hall where those two sessions meet. At this time I'd like to introduce our new provost at Iowa State University, Milton Blake. When I mentioned to him that he was the new Provost, he already said to me, \"Well, one should really say used.\" So here we have a new one and a used one all in one.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. It's my pleasure to introduce our speakers today and to moderate this precedential dialogue. Before I do that though, I'd like to pay a special thanks to the members of the religious studies program here and their colleagues who have put this together. It's, to me, quite significant that nationally religious studies programs in public universities seem to be the very centerpiece of intellectual excitement on many of our campuses. That somehow there's something in the nation now that has brought together in religious studies programs in public universities a certain tension between their field of religious studies and how they fit in the public arena and avoid being compromisable. More important avoid compromising the relationship of the public institution to the study of religion, which is forced them, I think, to look carefully at the fact that they study religion and do not preach religion. And it has caused them perhaps to be more introspective about what they do than many fields and therefore to bring on our campuses a certain stimulation that has helped all of us and allowed all of us to look into what we do a little more than we might have. Thank you very much, Mary, and thank you to your colleagues. The lecture, the dialogue today, as you know is on the topic education or what and the general theme and today we have a presidential dialogue in higher education. The two speakers today, in addition to all of you who may be speakers by the end of the afternoon, are president James T Laney president of Emory University. Whom we welcome to our campus and president Gordon Eaton the president of Iowa State University. President Laney who attended Yale University from which he has a baccalaureate degree in economics and graduated from the Yale Divinity School with honors and earned his PhD at Yale and his own personal area has been ethics and the moral life and he's published extensively in higher education. And perhaps the essay which is closest to the topic that we are speaking on today and has received much commentary is that and called \"The Education of the Heart,\" which was originally published in Harvard Magazine. I would start by saying president Eaton needs no introduction and I will proceed to introduce him. He is the president of Iowa State University. But prior to that time, he received his baccalaureate degree from Wesleyan University and then his Master's and PhD in geology from the California Institute of Technology. As a long-time member of the US Geological survey, perhaps the high point in his scientific career was being scientist in charge of the Hawaiian volcano observatory in Hawaii. Where he lived literally on top of the most active volcano in the world and studied it on a hour-to-hour basis. He left the US Geological Survey to become a Dean of ecology geosciences at Texas A\u0026M University. And after only 16 months became provost there. And two years ago, we were fortunate that he joined us at Iowa State as president. I believe that we have two people who you will find come at things from a very different view and yet have extraordinary commonality in their interests and commitments. And therefore it's my pleasure to first introduce President Eaton who will be followed by President Laney and following that we'll have an opportunity for them to comment on what one another have to say and then to throw this open to the floor so that you can share in this dialogue and ask questions. President Eaton.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Milton. Let me extend to President Laney an additional welcome to that of everyone in this room. We're delighted you were able to find time to be with us here today and to take part in this conference. I would like to put something in perspective for you because as both of us speak you want to keep this in mind. We were comparing notes as we stood back up the back corner of the room. Just before this began, we had each read one another's vitas. We graduated within one year of each other from college 25 miles apart and both of us from little art institutions from the state of Connecticut. So you might observe that we began from a rather common starting points and then followed careers that diverged rather sharply. And I've only re-converged as I assumed the presidency here. He's a veteran of some 12 years as the practicing University president. But I think our experiences between the time we graduated so close together in time and space and now may shape rather different views that I think will come to light as we both talk. The provost has mentioned that the title of this conference is neither a descriptive nor declarative statement. Rather it's a question, education for what? And let me tell you that I take the question in expanded form to be a formal inquiry as to the fundamental purposes of education, the responsibilities of education as well. In fact the responsibilities of those systems or institutions that deliver it or provide it. And finally the intended outcomes of education. Given the fact that we have in the program this afternoon the chief executive officers of two major universities presidents participating in this session I further take it that our focus is primarily on post secondary or higher education. Well let me begin by saying that it strikes me that there are a number of different ways to get at answers to these questions. Some of them are remarkably straightforward and direct and I'd like to begin with these. As you may anticipate I find them insufficient in themselves. But in fact I would argue that they're important to us because they're highly relevant for our purposes here. And because they reflect real and existing, and if somewhat naive and uncomprehending views of the purposes of education. As I hope to demonstrate the answers to our questions about the purposes and the eventual outcomes of higher education are actually quite various. They always have been. Some of them reveal expectations that I imagine most of us would regard as rather shallow. They are nevertheless real answers provided by real and quite sincere people. Some of these people have given at least a little thought and many of them a great deal of money to the educational enterprise and their weight as measured by the frequency of responses suggested. And some of the has had far more pragmatic and less lofty goals and aspirations for our higher education than others. But you as participants in this conference I think must be the judge. Let me begin then by sharing some of the simple answers followed by the expression of an historical and philosophical viewpoints that I hope will leave you with little doubt as to my own beliefs and values here. My concluding remarks will focus on what I believe to be the immediate issues that we must resolve. I begin with some answers to the question, education for what provided by the newest and most recent aspirins and recipients of higher education the freshmen who entered Iowa State University this past August. The University, in fact, has bothered to ask are freshmen. In a recently completed comprehensive survey of our freshmen the most frequently cited reasons for the decision to enter the University that is to acquire a university education. Work, to get a better job. 85% of them indicated that that was their highest priority in seeking a university education. To learn more about things and to make more money. These are pragmatic, intellectual, and material responses respectively. Lest you feel a sense of surprise at the responses of the most recently arrived of our colleagues in this educational enterprise. And I was a little surprised. Let me share with you the fact that collectively our freshmen are in no way out of step with their peers all across the country. The value systems are very common. Members of this year's freshman class at Iowa State University hold attitudes and values very similar to those of college freshmen nationally all across the United States. Stated life objectives that are considered to be important in descending order are as follows. To be well off financially, to be married, to be an expert in one's chosen field, to bear children and raise a family, and finally to gain recognition from colleagues and peers. Here then I suggest are our first direct answers to the question, education or what? From those who are at square one in the game of higher education today. As these are the views of neophyte inquirers of institutional knowledge what might the views of the providers or purveyors of such education be? Let's turn now in another direction and ask the question of another group. The similarities and differences I think are illuminating. Let me share with you the views of two different sets of providers. First, those of some institutional creators who are founders which I will address now. And then those of some present day institutional stewards people like president Lainey and myself which I will address near the close of my remarks. For what purpose have people both individually and collectively created institutions and programs of higher education? To answer this question at the most primitive level requires nothing more than a quick look at the vast and remarkably varied array of provider institutions that exist in our nation today. Let's look briefly at six chosen more or less at random by name from the 1989 higher education directory. This directory with which some of you may be familiar describe briefly all of the formerly recognized institutions of higher education in the United States. To the extent that these institutions exist at a time of regionally declining high school graduate populations and continuing economic prevail when a very significant number of institutional peers around them have failed and gone out of existence in the past decade and a half, I think indicates a degree of both genuine viability and seeming cultural relevance. People apparently want what these institutions have to offer. Students who enroll at them see value and desirability in their programs of education. And they thereby identify their personal expectations and their own personal values in terms of the purposes of higher education. Here are the six institutions in no particular order. In Providence, Rhode Island the Rhode Island School of Design. In Media, Pennsylvania the Williamson Free School of Mechanical Trades. In Brooklyn New York, the Beth Hallel Rabbinical Seminary. In Cambridge, Massachusetts, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In San Francisco, California, the University of California at San Francisco, and in Grinnell, Iowa Grinell College. In the case of three of the first four institutions, their educational purposes are more or less clearly identified by their names that is professional art and design. On the one hand, the vocational side of the mechanical trades and arts and pastoral and theological training in the Jewish faith respectively. By the time we'd come down this list to MIT the institutional purpose as judged by its name is somewhat more obscure. And although MIT has a great strength and international respect in some of the social sciences it would appear from its name that this institution does not place its principal educational emphasis in the area of the liberal arts. In the case of the University of California, San Francisco there is an obscurity of purpose based on name alone for unlike any two of its other system peers within the UC system. For example, unlike the University of California at Los Angeles and unlike the University of California Santa Cruz, the University of California San Francisco is an institution the purposes of which are not broadly based at all. Rather they are sharply-focused on the professions of medicine, and nursing, and dentistry. Only Grinnell College here in Iowa that appears from its name to have failed to tell us what it is all about. That is to say what the purpose of the education it offers really is. But this is not actually my point. My point is that five of these six institutions of higher learning in Providence, and Media, in Brooklyn, Cambridge, San Francisco and Grinnell are not at their core uncorrelated or unconnected from the expectations and aspirations of our entering freshman who seek to be educated expressly and here I repeat myself, to get a better job, to learn more about things, to make more money and to be well off financially, to become an expert in one's chosen field, and to gain recognition among one's peers. The focus is clearly a self-centered one along the line of vocational aims, which is to say that it is directed mostly at the notion of preparation for specific kinds of jobs and all of that success with those jobs whether in the trades or the professions be they in the arts, technology, the sciences, or even education. I failed to include the name of a teacher's college on my list but I could easily have done so. Part of the answer then to the question, education for what as viewed both by recipients and by providers of education appears to be in the expectation that a university education will provide successful entry into the workplace, whether we like it or not there was an undeniable practical relevance to this expectation for it has been estimated recently that by the turn of the century 70% of all jobs in our nation will require some level of post-secondary education. Excuse me. In the seeking of formal knowledge for a specialized vocation in life, we're looking at an aim that is viewed in different ways by different people. Some I think regarded as a shallow and ultimately unrewarding goal. Perhaps in the most extreme dooming the recipient to a one-dimensional life and an unfulfilling existence. Is this so? Certainly I would have to say that I would wish a great deal more for humankind than an education that is focused exclusively on work. For in general our work consumes roughly about a third of our working-living days and only one fourth of a calendar week. And even then our actions and decisions require on a day-to-day basis far, far more of us than the simple technical knowledge we bring to our tasks at the beginning, whether it's at work, or at home, or in society at large. Perhaps at this point some of you may be tempted to argue that this approach like that of asking freshmen why they choose to attend universities is simplistic. Ask a simple question or ask what is actually a fairly comprehensive and profound question in a simple way as I have by way of these two examples and you receive an uninformed, an irrelevant, or a simple answer. I'd be the first to agree with you. The different purposes for which our institutions were founded give us a rather limited insight. If not of defensible educational aims of our institutions of higher learning, at least of their ultimate potential. Before turning to a brief discussion of the views of the second set of providers which I mentioned a moment ago, I want to turn first to the identification of some important ideas that have had an influence on the views that I hold with regard to the meaning and ultimate purpose of what we're about here at Iowa State, both as students and as teachers. As we seek to improve our efforts to answer these questions and meet these challenges at the national level, higher education in this country obviously finds itself today in the midst of an intensive assessment of its fundamental purposes, problems, and prospects. As experience long ago taught us to expect there was a wide array of perspectives with regard to these areas of concern. As I hope you will agree we as a major land-grant university in Iowa state should be simultaneously awed by the complex issues associated with these concerns and literally driven to roll up our sleeves and get on with the task. While my experience as a university president has been a brief one, I have seen and heard and I have read and understood enough about what is at stake here to be convinced that ours is a time in which there was a profound and genuine need to rethink our plans. To evaluate them reflectively and finally to reaffirm both in thought and in action the values that guide us and the goals that inspire us to learn and teach with commitment not only for our own individual and institutional self-improvement but also for the good of humankind. I hope that you can sense here something of the thought processes by which I am guided as I attempt to share with you now what I regard as the broader purposes of educating and becoming educated. When I was an undergraduate student and my college instructors taught me to value the fact that we study history for a very fundamental reason. At any given time, we are simultaneously what we were or used to be and what we shall be. Thus why we may rightly conceive of the questions before us as vital in our search for the proper course into the future. Making navigational sense of where we are actually requires retrospection. I therefore request that you indulge me a brief journey back to our institutional origins. Thomas Jefferson believed that education served two important ends, which he also believed were interrelated in a very essential way. He could see clearly as we do today that education served the ends of technical and scientific proficiency. In this sense he too saw it as preparation for the professions but he also saw that education served the purpose of moral and spiritual enlightenment. As I read him, Thomas Jefferson saw clearly that at its core in life on this planet is driven and guided by some very fundamental values. And he regarded these values as materially relevant to both the personal and the social lives of people. They affect not only the ways in which we relate to others in various social contexts they permeate and shape our very approach to the workplace. Behind this understanding of the place and purpose of education in human lives lies a judgment of humanity that is basically optimistic. Jefferson looked to education as the engine by means of which our fledgling nation might drive the process of developing its people. Serious students of Jefferson may argue with this interpretation but I am compelled to credit him personally with causing me to see and understand education in this way. Functioning at its best as a human-driven process, education makes possible a coherent and comprehensive integration of human beings, living, working, and functioning within two larger organic systems. One of them human society, the other nature. In this way of doing things education is a process of synthesis. A process that brings about the coming together of peoples and cultures in social configurations and in various and differing natural environments that serve the common good, which is to say the general good of humanity. It is readily apparent if you look closely at Jefferson's writing that he came to his views of the purpose of education from a well-developed set of values. While you and I might argue with some of his social views as they relate to the treatment of certain groups of humans, for example, slaves and Indians of his time, what is important in this fundamental understanding of education as a process. The outcome of which is the concrete issue of collective norms and values. Education could provide the principles of right behavior and thereby serve to guide for society and for individuals proper and acceptable behavior. This notion that education is by its very nature normative, that is to say value-driven, figured prominently in Jefferson's confidence that through the educational process we might succeed in creating the kinds of social order I described earlier through the educational process. Let me now shift the time perspective forward directly in the middle of the 19th century. The time when the land-grant college idea came into being in our society and the time at which this institution was founded. If you've had the time or the inclination to read anything at all about this important revolutionary event, and it was regarded as revolutionary and still is today, then you already know that the land-grant idea drew the attention and support of many different people in groups across the country for many different reasons. It continues to find credence today all around the world. I choose for the sake of argument to concentrate on those reasons most directly relevant to our goal of seeking a better understanding of the purpose of education here this afternoon. It's important to note the historical context from which the land-grant idea issued our nation was at the time beside itself with internal strife, and anger, and greed. The civil war was an awful and some at the time believed fatal fact of their lives. There were other people, however, people like Senator Justin Morrill of Vermont who somehow found the energy and time as well as the purpose and concern to look ahead. These people saw all kinds of possibilities provided our young nation could just find the human resources required to make them real. Thus the land-grant idea was born in part at least to provide the so-called plain and ordinary people of our past with the basic knowledge they might need to work the land and create machines that would in turn serve local industrial needs. From the very beginning land-grant colleges were charged with the task of providing the basic technical knowledge that was required in order to bring about the fruitfulness of the earth as well as that of society. No doubt about it these were practical and material aims. As you may recall land-grant legislation also included the provision for courses that would provide students with a liberal education. This is a notion that is sometimes lost on some of today's land-grant university faculty. Some of those who advocated this idea that is the notion of the importance of the liberal arts did so because they admired at least a little of what went on in the elite academies of the East. The sort of institutions President Laney that you and I graduated from. Others were less pretentious. They believed that liberal education was an essential part of a broader educational process that was intended to develop what we might call the full person. In making provisions to educate people in the agricultural and the mechanical arts while at the same time provide them with the liberal education our land-grant founders had in mind the creation of institutions meant to serve society by providing it with skilled workers who had social sensibilities befitting the colleges of our developing nation. Two elements involved in the creation of the land-grant system are especially relevant. First education was conceived as an instrumental good. That is as a means to achieve a good and satisfying life. Second, in keeping with Jefferson's ideals, the land-grant idea was directly related to and dependent upon certain specific values. People generally believe that the good life a life marked by the gratification of basic human needs as well as spiritual wholeness were dependent on their willingness and ability to work the land and provide for their own material needs. Most of the land-grant supporters thought of these new-fangled colleges as the best way to meet persistent human needs. Let me shift now briefly to yet another time in our institutional history. Most of you know the name George Washington Carver. Carver was one of Iowa State University's most accomplished and distinguished alumni. In recalling the days of his youth with George Washington Carver, Henry A. Wallace observed one thing that was especially relevant to understanding how his good black friend related to the world around him. And most importantly to students. Wallace observed the George Washington Carver understood teaching to be a process whereby he Carver helped common people accomplish uncommon things. What has special personal appeal to me by way of understanding the essence of education is that whether or not he intended it, George Washington Carver managed to capture and very neatly in a few words encapsulate the very best of the basic values found in the land-grant idea. Carver's way of thinking reminds us of an important truth. Namely that education is a human process and our goal must be to make that process humane. Whey this brief look backward into our history? From our past we learned that education has all along been a value-driven process that is intended not only to meet basic material needs but also to make possible the growth and development of our total humanness. Glancing back at our origins, we also learn or perhaps we only rediscover how vital it is that we take the past seriously in attempting to make sense of the present and anticipate the future. In coming to understand how we arrived at this time in our history, we are better prepared to take advantage of the creative opportunities still ahead of us. I believe that we don't talk enough about values today and that even when we do our conversations are all but struggled. There was a fair amount of talk about the values clarification, but this was often carried out in what amounts to a clinical and antiseptic classroom class. We have come to encourage a certain kind of neutrality a neutrality that is sometimes close to a naive form of objectivity and perhaps even mistakenly associated with the temperament of modern science. As I look back on Iowa State University's past, it is apparent to me that we have been at our most credible as a place of education. When the values guiding us were clear and ever present in both our teaching and our learning. I have no particular desire to glorify the past but I am persuaded that in the ideas and values that shaped the thinking and formed the judgments of Thomas Jefferson, and Justin Morrill, and George Washington Carver, there really is much that is remarkably relevant here today. We do not educate our students merely to prepare them for careers despite the fact that that is why they think they come here. We educate them in order that the people we serve will be more adequately prepared not only to understand themselves and others around the globe as creatures having human needs and desires but also as morally enlightened and responsible social beings. This does not mean that education even at is dead level best successfully culminates in the solution of all of our problems. As humans engaged in learning on a continuing basis we recognize that there was a real sense in which right living, if you would, is at best only an approximation of the ideals that inspire us. Our real work is never done. In observing that education is a normative process, the teaching and learning are value-laden and therefore guide proper behavior. We make no claim to unique or special insight. What we do claim is that we cannot carry out responsibilities as teachers and students in the absence of a critically-reflective awareness and affirmation of the values that are at work in our lives as well as in our livelihoods. From my perspective at least this is the lesson to be learned from Jefferson and Carver. But awareness and affirmation by themselves are not enough for as learning continues both for teacher researchers on the one hand and for students on the other we are regularly called back to reconsider. It is in this context that the vital process of education is tested. Human beings seem by nature to want to have certain basic things about their lives settled once and for all. This attitude even shows up when we are thinking about our values. The irony of course is that as the process of education goes along we come to be increasingly sensitive to the problems and issues associated with being temporary moral agents. Some of us perhaps managed to close the door to criticism and inquiry and we thereby believe that certain basic things have in fact been finally settled. But in the main I'm inclined to believe that one important feature of quality teaching and quality learning is the presence in our lives of a certain degree of uncertainty and hesitancy. They do not render us immobile. Rather they remind us of our limitations and consequently of the importance of our continuing to learn. We may become confident but hopefully we never become arrogant and smug about the soundness of our views, and our values, and our behavior. Take the curriculum for example. It should never be viewed in any field as final. There are endless possibilities for the elements that constitute a curriculum and the faculty should never rest from attempting to find ways to improve it by making it more timely and more relevant to a dynamic and evolving yet enduring society. Before I return to fulfilling a promise I made quite a few minutes ago, let me tell you how I view education within the context of our land-grant tradition. In recent times considerable emphasis has been made of our obligation to make significant contributions to the economic development of the state of Iowa. This is most decidedly not a new requirement for this or any other land-grant institution. I am concerned, however, as should all of you be, that in responding to this emphasis we take care to do so in a manner that does not compromise our commitment to educate our students in the way outlined in my proceeding remarks. It is our good fortune here that we are an institution born out of the astute thinking and clear vision of Justin Morrill and those that joined with him in support of the land-grant idea. From the very beginning, we have been committed to developing our educational process a process that is mindful of the intimate and profoundly important relationship between the University and its supporting society as well as then between the material and spiritual needs of our students. This principle of integration has not always been as thoroughly understood or as carefully practiced as we would like. It is nevertheless a principle vital to our mission for this is the principle whereby we lay the foundation for our commitment to educate and develop whole persons. When Justin Morrill and his colleagues fashioned the land-grant idea, they were reacting at least in part to what they viewed as an elitist and socially unresponsive approach to society's educational needs on the part of the Eastern academies. Excluding that economic class, tradition-bound, and closely aligned with the classical view of learning basically as a process of cultural refinement. These institutions from Senator Morrill's perspective lacked a sense of purpose that was responsive to the genuine needs of a developing nation. We are the embodiment here of Morrill's remedy. As the fates would have it, however, land-grant colleges and universities and today's private sector counterparts are no longer as sharply divergent in their educational missions as they once were. And for the past several decades there has been a general convergence in the curricular focus of public and private institutions of higher education and it is no different in the case of Emory University and Iowa State University. At this very moment in our history colleges and universities of all sizes, shapes, and sympathies are searching seriously for ways to make the process of education serve the full range of needs of our people. This convergence is no accident for it is the outcome of a long oftentimes disorganized struggle on the part of a great many people to restore and reaffirm the beliefs that education is in its essence a normative value-laden process whereby we prepare our citizens to take up vocations and ways of life that are materially and spiritually fulfilling within the context of a social order which itself is thoroughly committed to the preservation and development of our individual collective capacities for goodness and justice. It is inevitable, I believe, than an institution than instructed its students broadly as I suggest we should and as we are doing, will necessarily exist in a state of tension. Sometimes high tension with regard to specific sectors of the society that supported and have many expectations for it. It is the very nature of sound academic institutions that they routinely cause and experience a certain unsettleness in their way. It is inconceivable to me that a college or a university that promotes and encourages the development of a truly questioning spirit should go unquestioned itself. No one can really prosper in such a setting especially the society we serve. In conceiving education as an instrumental good whereby we serve the common good, or the good of humanity if you will, we must necessitate and invite both internal and external scrutiny and debate of the teaching and learning activities we have underway. This scrutiny should when carried out and encouraged in good spirit, provide a sound and sure basis for an unbroken dialogue among all of the members of our society. Not just those of us who enjoy the sanctuary of college or university life. Thus it is for us here at Iowa State at this time. Now to briefly fulfill my earlier promise to review for you the views of the second set of what I label providers of education, the stewards of today institutions of higher education and higher learning are the faculty and administrative officers of our colleges and universities. This line of thought will help bring us back to the very basic issues confronting not just Iowa State or Emory University but the entire educational community and the society within which it functions. What do these people, these stewards, regard as the basic purposes, objectives, and goals of their institutions? Two weeks ago I was privileged to attend the 71st annual meeting of the American council on education in San Diego, California. The council has an umbrella organization of American colleges and universities, private and public alike, consisting of two-year, four-year, and graduate research institutions of a great diversity of emphasis and strengths. The council is in its own words an independent nonprofit association representing all accredited degree granting post-secondary institutions, as well as national and regional educational associations. As such it is major voice of higher education. The theme of this year's conference was education for the common good. A theme with a decidedly Jeffersonian flavor, which as you may have sensed held a great deal of appeal to me personally. The conference explored our understanding of what constitutes the common good and of the potential of higher education's contributions to it. I was eager to attend for not only did I find the general conference theme to parallel my own basic beliefs I also found several elements within the conference definition of the common good were themes I had espoused in a major address on this campus in March of 1987 and had some considerable relevance to my own beliefs. Allow me to share with you briefly some slides from the program. The fundamental mission of higher education was viewed in the context of enabling the common good. Education as something that ultimately elevates the lives of students so that they can contribute in a variety of ways to a healthy and productive society through work, through community participation, through the development of an abiding sense of responsibility for active citizenship and democracy, and through the nurturing of leadership skills. This conference in San Diego California was organized around five sub themes presented in what had been emphases in a report entitled, \"Memorandum to the 41st President of the United States,\" and indeed the inauguration of the 41st president took place while we were in session. This report was issued last year by the council's commission on national challenges in higher education. The sub-themes are increasing educational opportunity, revitalizing the economy, education for an increasingly interdependent world, meeting essential human needs and improving the quality of human life, and exploring the role of values and ethics in higher education. The diverse purposes of higher education identified here in what I regard personally as a persuasive manner are much more than simple preparations for the professions or trades. They converge and here I will use my own words and beliefs in the notion that education is to make possible a positive and productive life lived successfully in a pluralistic and interdependent global society where one is necessarily concerned not solely with one's career or one's income or oneself but with the world community with its economic wellbeing and with the quality of the lives of all its citizens. Let me just make one last note. It's somewhat ironic but at the same time I think helpful to note that one of the sub themes at the San Diego conference revitalizing the economy the one that relates most closely to the earlier identifying issue of jobs and one's preparation for them found our institutions of higher learning failing significantly. In one of the meetings several seminars on revitalizing the economy entitled, \"Higher Education's Role \"In Preparing the Workforce,\" American higher education was challenged with the following and I quote. \"Employers report with distressing frequency \"that college graduates do not possess acceptable \"academic skills for job competency. \"Some take on the job \"of providing these skills through their own programs. \"And thus compensates for high education's failure. \"Is higher education guilty as charged? \"Are our colleges and universities meeting societies \"and the economy's needs \"for knowledge and job skills? \"Can and should institutions alter their curriculum \"to respond to the economy's needs for knowledge?\" As you may will imagine the discussion that ensued was invigorating. Where were we found to be failing? Not surprisingly, it was not in the areas of the professional or technical education that we offer. Rather it was in areas such as communication, analytical capacities, interpersonal skills, and value-based decision-making. The academy it seems has been roundly criticized for failing to help students learn how to learn and to keep on learning throughout life. To help them develop genuinely effective written and oral communication skills, and to develop and nurture a consistent and creative thought process, to solve problems through critical and objective analysis, and objective formulation of solutions. Learn to establish and set goals at work and society and in one's own personal life and career development learn how to participate as effective members of a team. Developing interpersonal skills such as the critical art of negotiation and other facilities and social interaction. Develop organizational skills, develop leadership abilities, learn both to recognize and seek quality in all of life's efforts, develop and apply ethical values in the making of decisions across the full spectrum of one's life. Achieve a meaningful understanding of the interdependent relationship between humankind and our physical and biological environment. And finally create both a functional and a responsible understanding of the cultural world around us including the very peoples therein. Here then is a set of new charges. Charges not from the acquirers of our programs of education nor particularly from the purveyors of them. Rather from those who would employ those who graduate from our institution. Where in the university curriculum are these kinds of matters taught? How are such skills and values actively promoted and developed? Whose responsibility among those of us within the walls of the Academy, particularly this one are these? Where does Iowa State University and where do this nations other land-grant universities fit in here? I have, I hope, at least provided one answer to the question, education for what? But as you can see the matter is not closed. Where beyond it are these questions of implementation and of meeting these needs that were defined for us in San Diego. Our work therefore is not done. It is just beginning. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, President Eaton. 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I want to express also my personal appreciation and I'm sure on your behalf to President Eaton for his most thoughtful examination of our education and it's purposes. I think to have a forum like this on a college campus really does speak a great deal on behalf of intellectual firming and quest and I commend you for it. I also would like to say coming in that I saw the rich black loan of Iowa and I'm aware of the marvelous reputation of this university, particularly in agriculture research. And it brought to mind how much someone like President Warchav would like to have the resources of Iowa State University. He would know what it would be for, I can assure you. Education in my view is really for life. It includes vocation, the capacity to make a living. But it also includes living a life. And with that in mind, I want to speak a word really as an advocate. And I'll be right upfront about it, for liberal education, not just for the liberal arts, but for liberal education. And I'd have to say that in part because of the attitude of society reflected in the freshman that come to our campuses, liberal education is under pressure. It's under pressure because it asks for a breath in the faculty which runs counter to the age of specialization. It's under pressure because it seeks to orient and educate students in ways that are not immediately marketable in the job field. It's under pressure because it assumes that the grand function of life is to think independently and clearly and wisely and to become decent and honorable men and women, citizens who do contribute and can contribute, have some understanding of what it means to contribute to the common good. But it's under pressure for the greater reasons that we all know. And I think that makes the purpose of liberal education all the more urgent because it is preparation for citizenship and a free society that is most critical. All totalitarian governments have in modern times been able to co-op technical skills and professional confidence. There's no problem there at all. The thing that is in congress with totalitarianism is the product of liberal education, a staunch skeptical mind. An ability to question deeply all given truths and authorities. Not from a standpoint of corrosive cynicism , but because one believes that the free mind is the greatest of all creation. One speaks in behalf of liberal education, not in competition to professional training and confidence or technical skill, not at all. But is that context in which those skills can be exercised most humanely and thoughtfully and creatively. And without that understanding, those become self serving and capable and susceptible of distortion. In a conversation with John Sculley, who heads Apple Corporation not long ago, we were talking about what he wanted most in the graduates that Apple Corporation hires and he said, \"I do not see those who have business training.\" Now we have a business school at , this was a little disconcerting. But he said, \"What I want are people who do have certain skills, analytic tools, capacity to discern. But I want people who are capable of fresh and creative judgment. Who are not bound by the dogness of the academy or of any other received wisdom.\" And MIT is still in the process, a long and lengthy and difficult process of reforming their curriculum precisely to broaden it to include greater emphasis upon liberal education. And the reason is because they have felt that their students are as bright as any in the country. But they do not and have not traditionally been able to achieve the kinds of leadership status that they feel is appropriate for those qualified young men and women. Their education has been too narrow for that, for leadership, for technical yes, but not for commanding roles and industry and in government. In fact, one of the wags that MIT said, \"We are tired of having our students who are brighter then those of Harvard and Yale wind up working for them in New York.\" Now what is liberal education for? Liberal education would seem to me to seek to liberate us from preventiolism, the prevention of ideas, of places and things, to liberate us from unalloyed utilitarianism in thinking and acting where the bottom line becomes all there is. To liberate us from isolation, emotional and social and geographical. It's the midwife to maturity. This is a heavy heavy responsibility. It suggests that there is a life that the university and it's michosism of the world should hold forth, not as an ideology or , but as an opportunity which is rich in meaning and discipline and direction. Now this is extravagantly ambitious. It's grand. When we as a faculty talk about education, we're much more modest. Appropriately so. And most of our time and efforts do not produce such noble results. Nevertheless, it seems to me that we should have some sense of that liberal education and ideal that Jefferson had in mind. And that all great educational leaders in our country and indeed in the western world have when they understood and spoke of education. George Elliot, the novelist spoke of crab notions, oversees opinions and ideas and outlooks that bind us in hobbles that are inadequate for the new world of experience. All of us are constantly negotiating between our ideas and our experiences, revising and weighing and assessing and concluding. We might say that education, that is college education, is a huge organized assault of new knowledge and experience upon our ways of thinking. Not directly subversive, but certainly confrontational. Awakening, probing, testing, forcing us to analyze and to conclude, always disturbing, certainly to consoling truths, wherever they may come from. Whether it's the discovery in the laboratory that mitochondrial DNA might well encode the genetic history of the human race or whether it is a fresh encounter of a sophomore with the ideas, the real ideas of Darwin or Freud or Marxs. Changing forever the center of gravity and thought about life, society, and personality. Or whether it is an encounter with the ways of power, Coriolanus or the ways of humanity with Becky Sharve, or the ways of faith with Moses and Jesus through history, how the human spirit soars even as it is burned down. To learn to look beneath appearances of all kinds and to see how easy and subtle it is to have the assumption to have superiority for our time and place. But also the relative devise our complacency by an encounter with the brilliance of style, the majesty of a moral vision or the beauty of a metaphor. This is what liberal education is about, this is not just rhetoric. It actually can occur and it does occur and it forces us out of our conventionalism into other worlds that we did not know existed. And it is that kind of awareness those larger horizons of life within which all any of our vocations can be exercised that make us far more employable when we graduate and far more productive when we work and far more successful in the long run of life. Liberal education seeks to emancipate us from the tyranny of games, as though life was all together an economic machine. And that every act had to prove something or obtain something. We know in life how much we tend to see everything as preparatory. Always in order to get somewhere else. Always on our way. When we see it in space, and I feel for the students today. The enormous competition, the drivenness of careerism, the clock is running. We must hurry. And the emphasis on that on when one graduates on the need to make one's name all quantitatively measured of course, all seeing the bottom line. But this emphasis upon utilitarianism or the bottom line is not only an adequate individualized, but it is for our culture. And if we were simply to take the measure of competitiveness in the United States today, we would see that the severity of that short term bottom line is crippling us and foreclosing the possibility of investment for the long term. Mr. Maria who is chairman of Sony has given five speeches in this country in the last year, pleading with America embassy to stop thinking of quarterly results and thinking of five year operational affectiveness. Wherever we go, we realize that this simply won't cut it. Liberal education at least begins to push us in a sort of counter veiling sense beyond those pressures. But on a more personal thing, we also see that liberal education prepares us with a set of relationships. Not only with people but also in ideas and in art and in books that accompanies us throughout life. A recent study of clinical depression has shown that at age 40 today, 10 percent of people have experienced genuine clinical depression, one out of 10. But among the people who are aged 70, 30 years older, and from a whole nother generation, only one percent or one out of 100 have experienced clinical depression, which this ten fold increase in clinical depression. Certainly part of it has to do with the social dislocation of our times, the difficulty of sustaining relationships. But it also, I think the rise from the undo emphasis upon extensive signs of fulfillment or upon pleasure, the trends that you can see lowers. Liberal education it would seem to me helps us to put in a larger perspectives some of these things, gives us some capacity to live richer and more satisfying lives in our relationships and when we are alone. At it's best, liberal education also introduces us to a larger world. That world of the common good in which we can participate meaningfully in service and citizenship and leadership beyond the views of success. It's a sad commentary on our time that our heroes are Donald Trump and Lee Coco and Frank Sinatra. Not that they haven't achieved a great deal, but at what they represent in terms of a rich life hardly stands up to historical scrutiny. There's a moral thread running through all this, as there is in life and as there is in education. Not that issues can be neatly packaged, not that anyone has the answers, but an appreciation of the fact that fundamental thread acknowledges that life has another dimension then one upmanship then the fulfillment of life comes in richer and more meaningful relationships. Then wealth is not the sole basis for . That there is such a thing that we learned in literature of philosophism, of those empty and vain values which liberal education helps us to asses. To strike our own standards and judgment, to revise and make our own notions. Notions of greatness, we don't have to prattle about them. We don't have to . But it doesn't hurt to know what they are for ourselves. When I think about greatness and simplicity and restrain, I think about less then a hundred miles from Atlanta, there's a place called the little white house where Franklin Delano Roosevelt spent a great deal of time where in fact he died. And if one were to visit there, and I hope all of you will at some point, you will find a simple cabin in which there was not a refrigerator but an icebox, one black telephone, one bedroom pointing pointing south and one for across the living room for his secretary. And outside, two guard boxes. One for marine and one for secret service officer. That may have been a long time ago, but he ran the second World War many months of each year from that cottage. There was no imperial presidency and yet there was a sense of imperial greatness. I don't mean to idealize Franklin Roosevelt at all, but I am talking about taking a measure of things, that's what liberal education is about. Taking the measure of life, of society, of destiny. Doing it in light of history, in light of the great expressions. Literary, poetic, and religious of our race. Doing it in terms of what we think we might be called to experience with each other in the realms of aspiration, competition or bearance, qualities of character, as well as expressions and qualities of confidence. Liberty education deals with these things and I think that as President Eaton has pointed out, there's certain things that a university and a college can do practically in its curriculum but also just on the outside of the margins of it. One thing I think to explode the economy of the disciplines, to help demonstrate, and liberal education will do this, that the idea of total mastery made possible through a tightly focused discipline is an illusion. And this can be assisted by the perspective from other cultures, the perspective that women brain from what has been traditionally a man's world, the perspective of minorities, helping to enrich and bring into juxtaposition new values and thoughts and questions about those disciplines and the way they can be received. Discussions like this and beyond among faculty, about the fundamental issues and purposes of the university as well as their own disciplines, their own professions through faculty seminars. Times for faculty and students to talk together. I think the the thing that in a large university's like mine, probably here and all the modern universities, there is a certain enemy. There's a certain isolation. The easy comradeship between faculty and students must be sought after, must be intentional. And it is so important, not because the faculty are themselves are icons of virtue, but because there is personal experience and it's my belief that students want to see in those faculty how they got there, why they are committed to it, and what they're about. In an easy relationship, it would not seem to intrude on the freedom of either. I think of how this occurs and I experienced it myself recently with some students, older students. Medical residents all ready with their MD's. On grand rounds at the big city hospital in Atlanta, Grady Hospital. The professor's one of the eminent professors in the field of medicine, going around from room to room, holding a conference in the hall following the visit with a patient, seeing how the residents caught all of the symptoms and seeing what they would diagnose. Finally they came to this one patient who was very withdrawn and very sick. And the professor went up to his head and began to address him and he turned away, he was sort of sullenly. He asked him several questions and there was not the slightest response. His feet were encased in white elastic stockings because he had a problem with his liver that had virtually rendered his feet gangous. And so, this doctor said, \"Would you mind if I examined your foot?\" And he nodded for the first time that he would not mind. And he went down, and with great care he began to roll down the stockings, revealing what was only, for most of us, a very repulsive sight. Sub degraded flesh. And he manipulated several of the toes and this time the patient was paying attention to him and he asked him questions. And after he had done that with great care, he replaced the stocking on the foot and rolled it back up, went back to the head of the bed and now the patient was all attention. They talked about his symptoms. He placed his hand on his furrow and he left and we walked out into the hall. The usual bright students residents had nothing to say. He said, \"What did you see there?\" They said, \"Was it really necessary for you to look at his foot? You knew what it was.\" And this doctor looked at his residents and he said, \"Always remember this, never fail to touch the patient at the right place.\" So this goes on in medical school and beyond. It's science, it's art, but it's also a form of personal sharing of what medicine is about. Dedication, there was no preaching, there was no heckling, there was no upbraiding, there was simply example. And I think we need to provide occasions as possible. I know it's difficult in the modern universities. Where things reveal why professors do what they do and why they think the way they do. Can we share with the students? Education is a moral endeavor and liberal arts is a moral endeavor, not because moral questions are finally resolved but because important things are at stake. And I'm convinced that at the heart of all education, that moral thread and that liberal education would seek to identify and trace it and make something of it with an appreciation, finding not just the complexity and frustration of life but also a glimpse of the mobility of life. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Thanks to the presentations of President Eaton and President Lany. We are more of a university now then we were an hour ago. They have both reminded us of the special place, the special role of universities play in the special moral obligation we fortunate enough to be in university carry. For the last five years that the University of Missouri, several times I walked by Jefferson's tombstone. Not his body, only his tombstone and he wrote his own epitaph on his tombstone and all it said was Thomas H. Jefferson, founder of the University of Virginia. Didn't mention any of the rest of his accomplishments because that was what he held most dear of what he did. Let me open the floor either to President Eaton or President Lany, if they'd like to comment or to the members of the audience that are here today.\r\n\r\n- I would like to ask both President Eaton and President Lany. I have to thank you for having the courage to appear before this group and thank you President Lany for taking time to come with your schedules, which I'm sure must be tight. What role if any do peace study programs have within universities today?\r\n\r\n- Peace studies?\r\n\r\n- Peace studies.\r\n\r\n- P-E-A-C-E?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Um. If I may, I'll go first. I think that on our campus, one of our most distinguished faculty members teaches a course, it isn't in peace studies but in nuclear war and he's the professor of common psychology. And he frames together root from across the campus, from medicine and law and various history assorted disciplines to deal with the issues. I think that it's very important that something like that, an appreciation historic and otherwise, strategic as well of what is involved in war and what is entailed in peace be presented. We do not have regular courses in peace studies within a department, but I think this particular course comes closest to it because the implication of course is in nucleus wars unthinkable. And that has been met with very strong student response. I lectured in it a couple years ago with their invitation one time and I found the discussion and the whole tone of the course to be extraordinarily creative and stimulating.\r\n\r\n- President Eaton?\r\n\r\n- Seems to me the concept of peace is such an enduring one and the history of human kind, that it's amazing that you'd even ask the question. On the other hand, I think the question has to be asked because in fact we have not formalized an approach to the study of peace at this or any other university. Now there's a lot of things that go on in our lives where in which there is no structure and preparation. That's changing now, I was struggling to think of an analogy that is important as parenting is, it hasn't really been until the last half generation that it has been a subject of intense interest. Books have been written, techniques have been developed. We've taken parenting for granted for thousands of years, just as we have taken peace for granted. It's a fine idea. And as you know I'm sure, we have created within this state just in the last two years, a peace institute. Dr. George Christensen sits on the board of directors of the Iowa Peace Institute and they are reaching out as a developed program to the universities around the state and I hope that this influence will continue in a way that will involve faculty and students and administrators at this university. But it's a very embryonic effort at this point in time.\r\n\r\n- May I follow up on that? I forgot that we do quite a bit in conflict resolution as a technique and there's a group at Harvard that we are working in consultation with through the Carter Center. And we not only have a course, but are also doing conflict resolution in various spots around the world that do not require governments to come together, but rather within countries and so forth where there are groups that are at odds and so forth. And they develop quite a technique. It isn't just good will and so forth, it's a real approach with laying out of the issues and getting people to agree through step by step and so forth. And then finally, come sort of agreed upon resolution.\r\n\r\n- Is this the perfect ?\r\n\r\n- Beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n- Is this the perfect talks group.\r\n\r\n- No, no. This is a group of Harvard Law School. I know Harvey, but I'm not sure if he is involved in it, he might be. The one's that I know of that have been the have been from the law school.\r\n\r\n- It seems that I'm hearing you say that you both spout the same goals with crafts taking two paths to it. In a condition that we find ourself dwindling in state revenues and this type of thing, is it not important for university to at least prime the pumps and have the money available so that we can do many of the things that President Lany used to market about getting to the liberal arts?\r\n\r\n- It's very difficult and the priorities are hard. We've just gone through a budget for next year and I know first hand what it's like when push comes to shove, you know. I'd say a couple things we're doing are very close to my own heart and I have a hard time keeping them in when they tell me the consequences of what's going to have to go and so forth. But at the same time, I feel that you can't just make it a stage thing that you do things that economic development and get enough money that then in turn will allow you the freedom, the luxury to do these other things sort of as an add on. I think that we need to do them consistently together and let them both grow together and I think part of it is a growing appreciation of how fundamental some of the liberal arts is to successful economic growth in the long term. I think some of the things that we are talking about here as appropriate in the business school as they are in the department of philosophy and religion. And the fact that they don't recognize that doesn't determine .\r\n\r\n- Dr. Eaton?\r\n\r\n- Finn, you phrased the question in rather specific terms related to resources and I would argue that while the adequacy of resources is an important element, it's not the most important element. Let me turn it around and say that it is not, resources or the absence thereof are not the greatest threat to where an ability to get on with this process. I think a far greater threat is the intensity of specialization within professional fields, plus the fact that we have not set out these objectives as institutional. They're goals. And let me give you practical examples from the history of the last two and a half years. The first year I was here, I had shared with me a very large sheet of glossy paper. It was essentially a matrix and there were purple dots on it for the University of Northern Iowa and red ones for Iowa State. And as I recall, black ones for the University of Iowa and then listed across the top were large number of subjects that were taught in Iowa high schools. And down the side then were degree programs at three universities. So if you as a high school senior wondered perhaps what you should have had under your belt if you waited until you were a high school senior, well look! You could look at the red dots if you were interested in aerospace engineering and see those things that we were recommending that you take in high school in order to successfully pass through the curriculum in aerospace engineering. That's now changed. We have now made of them requirements to enter the university, and in fact as you look across the spectrum of these courses, these are the kinds of things that President Lany and I were required to have in order to enter our 200 graduate institution. They are also the kinds of thing that required of us that the university level in our liberal educations. Somehow we have drifted far away from that and we need to come back. And the whole idea of the core curriculum at this university, that is to say a set of courses that all of the faculty would like our students have under their belt in order to put the perimeter of the university on them, makes up or at least provides formally the opportunity for a liberal education. Another corrosive influence is the demands that a number of institutions, organizations, and associations external to the university place on our students and on our degree programs. And these are the accrediting associations. And one of the things I did just a few weeks ago in beginning to think of my remarks today was in fact to look at the accrediting associations that visited President Lany's campus and come visit our campus. And they are a long long list. These people are in fact designing in an almost unrresistible and overwhelming way how our students spend their time and what kind of classes and what sorts of subjects they debate. For my mind, I think the resistance to that, the increasing specialization in professional fields that President Lany referred to are much greater threats to getting on with the business of developing a core, aplorable education in any of our professional programs. Even then in the absence or scarcity and resourceful.\r\n\r\n- Yes sir.\r\n\r\n- I have a bunch of questions I would like to ask.\r\n\r\n- Why don't you ask one?\r\n\r\n- I was particularly struck by your example of the thought. The importance of touching a patient. And I was wondering what responsibility you feel administrators have to go back to the classroom one and a while and to teach maybe on a periodic basis, especially as we see more and more administrators. I guess both?\r\n\r\n- Well, I do think that teaching is a range of important dimension to the judgment and perspective of anyone who is running the affairs of a college university. And it isn't easy. I taught a graduate seminar on a regular basis once a year until three years ago, and I just had to quit. Maybe I just got too old, I don't know. I know I was getting out of touch. I got more out of it then the students did. I mean it helped me a great deal, but I began to feel like I was not giving them their full due because I wasn't able to keep up with the field with all of the secondary literature. But I think there are other ways that we can be in touch with students and this is through meetings of various kinds of forms and things like that. What you're saying is how do we overcome being remote and I find that a constant problem that has to be addressed aggressively. And I'm not always successful at it I must say but you reminded me. I'm going to make a note of that and go home and do something.\r\n\r\n- I would guess that for both of us, that's something that we very much would like to do. I think probably few of you in this room have any idea at how trivial the objects are that we spend time our time with in any given day. And how innate the job of being a university president really is.\r\n\r\n- Don't tell it all.\r\n\r\n- I get a thousand pieces of correspondence every month and these range all the way from the profound to the ridiculous. I get documents that are 150 pages long. If there isn't an executive summary, it isn't even something I look at. I look at the title and move on to the provost, hoping that he won't have time to consume it. It's not for lack of wanting I think because both of us came out of the classroom at some point in our careers and when I engaged in teaching at my previous institution, I found it to be not only very stimulating but also therapeutic It was something that was really helpful as a counterpoint to the end of the dreary of meetings and interviews and correspondence and trips. The problem is time I think, it's not a lack of will. And it's not just a matter of having a sufficient time in the , it's having a matter of scheduling time. For both of us, no two weeks are alike. There's no typical day in the life of a university president. There's nothing we do that allows us to be free between 9 and 10 on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday morning. At least that's the problem that I ran into. So I think you seek other kinds of contexts with students. Now I have two things that I do and neither one of them gives me near the contact I'd like to have. I try as often as possible to walk from the house to the office in the back and I do that in the morning and noon and the evening, hoping in fact that I will and I do pass student. Some are willing and talk. Some avoid my gaze. And then I have a student advisory committee which provides me at least monthly forum with students. But it's a problem when you've got 10 to 25 thousand students. And keep in mind to that it's just as important in this process of touching I think for the presidents that have the universities to touch the faculty and are opportunities are not nearly as frequent as any of us would like I think.\r\n\r\n- I think there was a question in the back, yes?\r\n\r\n- So I was listening to both speeches, how hard it is to disagree with either of them, they would be kind of a parallel I suppose. It's something that I could in fact muster up a disagreement and that person would have had that education . So do you wonder if either of you could speak somehow about the enemy or the opponent. Obviously education is not the way you'd like it to be. And yet, the opponent or the components of communication that we don't want varies in general in the public discourse. Who is the opponent? Where in particular of you that closes doors? Why is it so powerful but at the same time .\r\n\r\n- That's a good question. I guess my first response is totals as response, was not the enemy and it's us. I think we lack collectively in a university community perhaps to get on with the result. And what I'm hoping is that the whole notion of a , which is passe now in America. Iowa State is kinda late in getting to a consideration of this, but that now rests with the rest with the faculty in the senate. And I hope we wrestle with this issue and perhaps defeat it in some small measure. I think part of what is wrong isn't a cultural wrong, it's that as the store of knowledge increases daily, at breathtaking speed and there's always a specialization to stay abreast of one's own chosen field, almost has to consume all of one's time as one moves through the curriculum. That really is the advantage, I think of the kinds of institutions that the two of us attended as undergraduates students and which is of course the kind of institution that Cornell, college here in Iowa, is and provides. It's the bottom line demands, it's President Lany who mentioned, it's the level of intense material competition, both in the world and then in this country and there's this competition between universities, we're competing for students with one another. We're competing for resources and support of research. We're competing for dollars for facilities and that kind of thing. And I'm afraid it's all these sorts of demands on our energy and our thoughts, plus the fact that this increasing specialization causes divergence among the faculty that causes us from doing it. And that may not be a very satisfactory answer, it isn't to me because I don't see how you wrestle it to the ground and eventually defeat it. We're obviously not gonna stop creating a lot of knowledge and a whole lot of variables.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to add that I think part of the enemy is in the corporate world no different then in our universities that President Lany discussed that the president of Sony comes and tells us that we should create liberally educated, far reaching people. So does the president of General Moters. So does the president of Apple. Unfortunately, those aren't the people that do most of the hiring. The president of those corporations, presidents, are trying to reproduce themselves because that's who they are. We are also typically having students who are going to be hired by people who are trying to reproduce themselves and often those people are doing the entry level hiring for that reason. And we need to work with and both President Eaton and President Lany have the opportunity to work with chief executives of American and international corporations to urge them to share their vision right down to the hiring level, because you do get a different perspective when you talk to the chief personnel officer and the chief executive of a corporation. That's a minor enemy, but let me add that in. President Lany?\r\n\r\n- Well I certainly agree with these remarks and feel that the fragmentation of the university today is our greatest problems. 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