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system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2794.29,2797.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we're doing it today in America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2797.7,2799.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's not just holding 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dissent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2805.68,2809.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm a former federal prisoner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2809.91,2811.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When I was in federal 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left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2815.2,2817.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/988","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because the leadership was in prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2817.37,2820.026"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/989","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience laughing and 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yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2824.749,2825.582"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/992","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you basing your data on blacks who go to prison","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524#t=2828.24,2831.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115524/transcript/27177/annotation/993","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on whites and blacks prosecuted for the same 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I'd like to encourage people to come down towards the front. Steve will try to speak without a microphone. So it might be easier to hear him down here if it's a small group. We're very privileged to have Steve Whitman as our speaker tonight. Steve's a lecturer at Northwestern University's Urban Policy and Research--\r\n\r\n- Center.\r\n\r\n- Something like that. Close enough. It's the Policy Research Center in Northwestern. But he's also a longtime activist in prison and criminal justice areas, starting in Alabama and presently now in the Illinois area. And he's one of the co-founders of the efforts to stop the lockdown in Marion Prison. We are pleased to have him tonight and I'd like to have everybody join me in a round of applause for Steve.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much, I'm pleased to be here. You can all hear me okay, can you? Okay. What I would like to do today is, the title implies, I don't know if you've all seen the title but the title is \"The True Purpose of the 'Criminal' 'Justice' 'System'\". And I've asked my friends here and they've complied to put the word criminal, justice, and system all in separate quotation marks, meaning to me, and I hope by the end of our discussion here today to you, that those words aren't really applicable to the concepts we'll be discussing. What I think is that, we all know that there's lots going on around prisons. They're in the newspapers all the time. And I think my underlying idea in all of this is that we're involved in not only the physical reality which we'll talk a lot about, but I think, in some ways, we're caught in an ideological stopping point. And we can't quite see our way out of what to do about the prison system. So what I want to do this evening is show you a lot of facts and evidence that I've been gathering, the group I work with, called the Committee to End the Marion Lockdown, has been gathering. And then try to raise some of the ideological issues with you. Marion Prison, just by way of mentioning, is a federal prison located in Southern Illinois. Its official name is the United States Penitentiary at Marion. It's about six hours south of Chicago. And I have a lot, some literature from our committee that's up here and you might want to come by afterwards and take some of it, it's all free. And I also have some notes on some of the data I've, I'll be showing you about the prison system is also duplicated in case you want to take any of those facts with you. The, Marion is generally regarded, I think, as the worst prison in the United States. It replaced Alcatraz Prison in 1963 as the end of the road. And since then it has been evolving and getting worse and worse. So I have some literature on that and the format that we've agreed to and I hope that you'll join us for as much of this as you have the energy for, is I'll make my presentation and then we can have a discussion for as long as you want afterwards. And then I have two rather brief videos about Marion Prison which I understand can be shown comfortably in this room. And for those of you who want to hang around we're going to be looking at them afterwards and then talk about Marion in specific, that would be great. You know, I hope as many of you as possible will stay. And I think you'll find the videos interesting as well. Some of you may know, can anyone tell me, this is 1990. Some of you have probably noticed that. What's the relationship between 1990 and the prison system? Does anybody know? It's a special date. Well, it actually marks, put your hands down now. It marks the 200th anniversary of the penitentiary. And it's especially noteworthy, I think, because in 1790, the penitentiary was conceived and implemented initially by the Quakers. And it was conceived and initiated in response to their perceptions that up until then people who were allegedly criminals and caught were, you know, physically punished, beaten, and endured other kinds of corporal brutality. And the Quakers said, \"This doesn't make any sense,\" you know, \"it's counterproductive. It doesn't bring anything to society. And it really doesn't help the individuals that much. We have an idea,\" they said, \"let's take these individuals. We'll put them in a room,\" which became a cell, \"and we'll give them a Bible. And they'll study, they'll be introspective. They'll examine their situation. And they'll do penitence.\" Penance, I guess is the word. And it's from that word penance that the word penitentiary comes. And so this is the 200th anniversary of the penitentiary. And the Quakers and the American Friends Service Committee recognize now that they made a big mistake in those days. And they're trying as hard as they can to undo some of the evils that have been done by the penitentiary. And they're having a series of events all around the country this year to try to address some of those problems. But prisons, it seems to me in this day and age, are always important to talk about. And I can't think of a period during which it's more important than this year, that the 200th commemoration. I'm going to try to show you a lot of facts and information. I think it will be easily assimilable to the extent that some of it slips by you, it's no big deal. Let's see, I put on the projector? There's some, I think. The light switch puts on the projector.\r\n\r\n- What do you project?\r\n\r\n- It says projector controls and projection booth.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Okay, do I do something? But that's why?\r\n\r\n- Let's see. Okay. Sorry for our technical difficulties here.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I'm pressing this and nothing's happening. How is it so far?\r\n\r\n- Still out of focus?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Also the, this, this. All right, well, we can try. This is, I just wanted to start by giving you some facts about the criminal justice system. The criminal justice system has an annual budget of $25 billion a year. Prisons and jails account for over half of that. I can't get that to work, could you? You did it. See, I think no matter what you do, it keeps going forward. Okay. So criminal justice, a $25 billion a year industry, it's quite enormous. Prisons and jails are over half of that budget, $13 billion. Per capita spending on jails and prisons has increased to over 200% in the last 10 years. The crime rate has increased only 7% over the last 10 years. The imprisonment rate has increased 100% over the last 10 years. And a recent estimate I saw said that it costs more than a million dollars to imprison one person for 30 years. Now, these figures don't just exist in isolation but impact on the way we live our lives. I have this quote, which I'd like to read to you, \"Almost every city and town in Connecticut is facing program cuts in schools due to state grant cutbacks. At the same time the state plans to spend more than $400 million over the next few years for new prison beds. The University of California is similarly strapped for cash and plans to raise tuition by 10%. Two years ago, the California Department of Corrections had a cost overrun of $25 million. That same year, the University of California was asked to absorb a $25 million cut in its budget.\" So the way we spend on the criminal justice system clearly impacts on the way we spend the rest of our budget and how we live our lives. The United States criminal justice system, the prison system, the control system within it is also enormous. For example, as we stand here talking this evening, over three million adults are under correctional supervision. That includes categories like prisons, jails, probation, parole, and so on. Over three million. You know, three million is the size of the city of Chicago, where I live, or the size of Nicaragua, the country. That's how much three million is. About eight million people are arrested each year in the United States. And actually I think that figure's low, it's just gotten higher. And I believe 8 million is more than, for example, in any Central American country, that live in any Central American country. And about 85,000 juveniles are in facilities, right now as we speak, in the United States. So the, the, as you can see, the correctional control aspect of the criminal justice system is really enormous. As of, that should be December 31st, at the end of 1989 there are over 700,000 people in prisons. Now for the rest of the presentation, I want to talk to you just about prisons. Do you know that, so I won't be talking about jails, probation, parole or any of those other categories in general. Do you know the difference between a prison and a jail?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- No? A jail is used either for people who have not yet been convicted and who can't afford to get out on bail, or for people who have been convicted of short terms, sent in on short term sentences like six months or so. So in the United States, most counties have jails and many cities have jails. And states run, each state has a prison system and the federal government has a prison system. And it's only the prison system that I'll be speaking about to you today. So if we talked about jails and probation and parole, that would increase the numbers a lot but I only want to talk about prisons today. The United States is adding about a thousand prisoners per week or 52,000 per year. To understand how quickly the system is expanding, I just note that Illinois, again the state that I live in, has 25,000 prisoners. So every year we're adding twice as many prisoners to the system as is contained by the state of Illinois. About 7% of all prisoners are federal prisoners and about 5% are women.\r\n\r\n- The spotlights will help .\r\n\r\n- Excuse me?\r\n\r\n- I can turn off the spotlights--\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm going to be reading a little bit. Can you see the slides, are they okay this way?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yup, okay.\r\n\r\n- Thanks.\r\n\r\n- One good way to measure imprisonment, there are many different ways but one way that's often used is in the imprisonment rates per 100,000 population. So for example, this slide says that in 1930, the imprisonment rate was 104. That means that for every 100,000 people living in the United States that year, in 1930, 104 of them were in prison. And as you can see that rate stayed more or less constant until 1970. You know, it varied about a hundred, a little more, a little less, but stayed about constant. And then in 1970 it really started zooming upwards until 1989 when the imprisonment rate was 272. So from 1970 to 1989, the rate had tripled. As you could see, the proportion of black people in prison has also increased enormously, from 23% in 1930 to 47% in 1986. And data on Spanish-speaking people is harder to find but it was 2% in 1960 and 13% in 1986. Does anybody know what proportion of the population black people are in the United States?\r\n\r\n- 11?\r\n\r\n- Okay, someone said 11, I think it's actually closer to 13 but it's certainly in that ballpark. Gives you some sense of what the 47 means. These are imprisonment rates divided by race. In other words, this slide I just showed you, showed you that in 1989, the imprisonment rate for the United States as a whole, I believe was 279 per 100,000. And here's what happens when you break it down by race. It's 1,101 for black people, 391 for Hispanic people and 149 for white people. So for example, a black person is about 7 1/2 times more likely to go to prison in the United States than a white person. Hispanic person, 2 1/2 times as likely as a white person. Those figures of course vary a lot from state to state. Again, I live in Illinois, so I have this slide. And as you can see, the proportion of the population that's black in Illinois is 59%. Hispanic is 9%. And the racial composition of Illinois is about the same as for the United States as a whole. So you can compare that with the population figures. The, as I said, in the United States as a whole, a white person, a black person is 7 1/2 times more likely to go to prison than a white person. In Illinois, it's 10 times more likely In New York, it's 12 times more likely. Of course in other states it's less likely but there's this variation in the numbers. And some get even higher than the 7 1/2 percent. That's the US average. This slide I think provides great insight into what's happening with the prison system. The top half of the slide shows imprisonment rates for Western Europe. These data are taken from the United Nations in 1980. I obtained more recent data and they all look the same, that is the figures change a little bit, but the comparisons all remain identical. And as you can see the rates for Western Europe range from a low in the Netherlands of 17 to a high in Finland of 94, and they grew, maybe I don't know if you took the average you'd get something like maybe 60 or 70. If you look down below, you could see that the imprisonment rate for white people in the United States is 90. Very similar to the rate for other Europeans. If you look furthermore at the bottom of the slide, you see that in 1980, the imprisonment rate for black people in South Africa was 361. And the imprisonment rate for black people in the United States was 567. This means that in 1980, a black person in the United States was almost twice as likely to go to prison as a black person living in South Africa. And I've told you, although these data from 1980, more recent data tell exactly the same story. To me, this is an absolute staggering observation. And when I first came across these data and showed it to some of my friends, they wouldn't believe it. You know, and I had to go and bring them the books to demonstrate that this was in fact the case. In 1985 the United States government, the Bureau of Justice Statistics conducted an extraordinary survey. It had never been done before. And it tried to determine what the probability of lifetime imprisonment was. And what they found was, using data from 1979, was that the life, the probability of lifetime imprisonment for black men was 18.7%, 3.3% for white men, 1.5% for black women, and 2/10 of a percent for white women. Now the 18.7% is almost 20%, which is one out of every five. And that was in 1979, when the rates were much, much lower than they are now. So the rates now, I've calculated them. And in fact, the rates are very close to one in four. That means one out of every four black men in the United States will go to prison in his lifetime. And remember, please, we're not talking about any of the other criminal justice categories, not talking about jail, probation, parole, not talking about arrest. One out of every four black men in his lifetime will go to prison. You can think with me, if you will, what a staggering observation this is, what this, what kind of devastation, what kind of havoc this would bring about black communities throughout the United States. It's not only that these men get taken away and that their roles have to be filled in society, but the costs of supporting the men while they're in prison are enormous. I don't know how many of you are familiar with this situation, but prisoners get virtually nothing. And so people who love them and support them have to send them all kinds of things. Toothpaste, soap, clothing, books, cigarettes. When they go visit them, most prisons are far away from urban areas and the cost of those trips are really extraordinary. So I think when you put all of this together, what we find is that an entire system is being devastated. Another study just took place last year and this, and one example of the devastation, I mean, how it manifests itself in day-in and day-out life was revealed in one small way by the study that found that there were more black men aged 20 to 29 under control of the criminal justice system than there are black men of all ages in college. And again, there are lots of different twists and turns of this number, you know, of the quantity of black people in prison. And that's just one, one of the facts, one of the statistics that one can examine the devastation firsthand with. Now what we've seen so far is that the criminal justice system is enormous, it's incredibly expensive, and it's filled with black people. It seems quite reasonable that we should ask ourselves, you know, well what is it that the criminal justice system does? And why does the system, why does an institution like this exist in society? And I'd like to try to address that for now, that question. As far as I can gather, there are lots of little explanations for prisons but when you group them, you wind up with three large explanations, three official explanations. One is that they rehabilitate. Another is that they prevent crime. And a third is that they punish. Let me just take them one at a time. Insofar as rehabilitation goes, I think virtually everyone has stopped saying that prisons rehabilitate. As you may know, people talk about the recidivism rate, the rate at which people return to prison. And that's about 50%. Certain studies are a little bit more, certain studies are a little bit less, but generally I think 50% is a good approximate of the recidivism rate in the United States. Now imagine what it would be like, say, if an automobile manufacturer had 50% of its cars fail, or if slide projectors failed 50% of the time. Or, you know, pots and pans that you use, or half of all the textbooks that you bought, you know, were missing half the pages so you couldn't understand them. Well, all of those systems, of course, would go out of business immediately. The United States prison system has not gone out of business, of course, and continues to grow each day. The 50% recidivism rate, however, is not an indicator of its true failure. Because saying that 50% of the prisoners go back and 50% don't go back, it doesn't mean that the 50% who don't go back have been rehabilitated. I just means, you know, in one way or another, they don't get back to prison. It certainly doesn't mean that their lives have been restructured and that they're now full members of our community. So it's clear, I think, that prisons don't rehabilitate. Let's look at the punishing aspect of prisons. I think just as it's clear prisons don't rehabilitate, it is clear that prisons do punish. No one could doubt that, I don't think. But an open question is, is that what we want? And we can ask that in two different ways. Remember, I mentioned that at the beginning of the talk, that the Quakers had invented the penitentiary because they thought that punishment was counterproductive. You know, usually the theory is, I guess, that we can punish people if it brings about some desired result. But as far as anyone can determine, the punishment that takes place in prison does not bring about any desired result. In fact, virtually everybody is unanimous in agreeing that it's counterproductive. Not only is it counterproductive but also we're spending $25 billion a year to do it. And so one also then has to take a step back and believe, I think, that punishment can't be the true reason of the criminal justice system. It just doesn't work, it's not rational that way. I think what we're left then with is the fact that most people seem to believe, and I think this is some experts as well as laypeople, that we have prisons because they prevent crime. I've just finished writing a chapter on this topic and doing a lot of research. And it may seem hard for you to believe but there is absolutely no credible evidence that prisons in any way deter crime. And I have here just a few quotations that I'd like to read from you, for you. And as you'll see, they're from diverse sources and I hope will convince you that this assertion of mine is accurate. One researcher says, \"The results reported in the previous section provide no reliable evidence that risk of imprisonment or time served has a measurable impact on the crime rate.\" Here's another quote, \"Incapacitation appears to have been only slightly more effective in averting crimes in the early eighties than in the seventies despite a near doubling of the US prison populations in less than 10 years.\" Here's another quote, \"Despite the intensity of the research effort,\" this is by the major government panel in the last 20 years that's investigated this question, \"despite the intensity of the research effort, the empirical evidence is still not sufficient for providing a rigorous confirmation of the existence of a deterrent effect of prisons.\" And the other quote, \"California and Massachusetts for example, must increase their prison populations by over 150% and 300% respectively in order to achieve a 10% reduction in crime.\" Here's a quote, and this one is from the director of the corrections of the state of Alabama, not a well-known bleeding heart liberal. He says, \"We're on a train that has to be turned around. It doesn't make any sense to pump millions and millions into corrections and have no effect on the crime rate.\" And finally, this is from the Correctional Association of New York, \"The prison population in New York State has more than doubled since 1971. The state's new policies have been staggeringly expensive, have threatened a crisis of safety and manageability in the prison system, and have failed to reduce the crime rate or even stop its increase. After almost 10 years of getting tough, the citizens of New York are more likely to be victims of crime today than in 1971. Moreover, the largest rise in crime came at the end of the decade, well after the introduction of more severe sentencing practices.\" Now a long time ago, or 20 years ago actually, William Nagel was an ex-warden, and he recognized then the failure of the penitentiaries. So he resigned and ever since then he spent his time going around the country trying to lecture against prisons. And he has this quote, he says, \"The causes of crime in this country are deeply rooted in its culture and in its economic and social injustices. The massive use of incarceration has not contributed significantly to the abatement of crime or to the correction of the flaws in our social fabric.\" What Nagel is saying, I think, I mean, just saying it a slightly different way is, most people seem to believe, or at least a lot of us, that crime results from unequal social conditions. And so what you have is you have unequal social conditions over there and crime stemming from that. And you have prisons over here. And Nagel is saying, how in the world can you think that this institution will impact on that relationship? And indeed, as study after study after study has demonstrated, it doesn't. Now Nagel wrote this in 1975, but turns out that this has been a well-known phenomenon for a long time. Michel Foucault wrote an interesting book, a French, I don't know, philosopher, historian, anthropologist or something. He died just a short while ago. He wrote this, a book called \"Discipline and Punish\" about the prison system. And he says, \"The answer of criticisms of the penitentiary has always been the same, that we need more penitentiaries. For two centuries, the prison has always been offered as its own remedy, as the only means of overcoming its own failure.\" Now, you know, I told you before that I work with this group called the Committee to End the Marion Lockdown. We're experiencing that right now. Marion, as I mentioned, was opened in 1963. It's become worse and worse as the years have progressed. And every time the Bureau of Prisons makes the prison worse, they say to the Congress and to the public, \"Let us make it worse. And then we will, things will get better in society. You know, the rest of the prison system will be safer, society will be safer and so on.\" Well, of course that's never happened. And so now it's almost 30 years since Marion has opened. Let us-- Just announced plans to do that in the-- Phenomenon of repeating these failures over and over again has continued for the last 200 years. You know, my committee and people can see-- This week. Elliott-- is the most readable book on the issues of crime and imprisonment. And if you're interested in reading one book, I would recommend Curry's book. It's in paperback and it can be very intelligent on the issues. And Curry early on poses what I think is an excellent question. He says, \"If we know as much about crime as I think we do, why haven't we acted more consistently and more constructively to prevent that crime,\" instead of building prisons is what he means. And I think this is the essential question that we have to ask ourselves. And I would like to discuss this topic with you in the remainder of my talk. As I mentioned at the beginning, I think what we need to do is struggle somehow in order to reconceptualize what the criminal justice system is about. Some of you may have read, may remember from some other classes or other readings that for hundreds and hundreds of years, everybody was quite sure that the earth was at the center of the universe. And people would plot diagrams showing the other planets revolving around the earth. And then technology began to accumulate. Telescopes became available, and other means for measuring planetary motion. And as people performed these measurements, none of the data, none of the observations, fit into the theory with the earth at the center. I've seen many of those diagrams and they're actually almost funny. You know, people draw the diagrams with the earth in the middle and they have these orbits that are triangular or crossing each other, just things that clearly don't make any sense. But they absolutely could not figure out what to do with the facts which didn't match the theory. Well, you know, as you probably remember, in the middle of the 1500s, Copernicus came along and he said, \"You got it all wrong. You know, if you put the sun at the center of the universe, everything works out fine.\" And he drew the picture and he showed how all the data made sense with this new reconceptualization, with this new theory. Of course he was excommunicated and died as a result of the punishments he experienced as a result of this theory. But now at least, we believe, and I think correctly so, apparently, that the sun is at the center of the universe and many of the facts and observations we gathered are, make sense now, in light of that perspective. In 1970 there was a similar phenomenon, much less dramatic but I'm a health researcher and I was involved a bit in the situation. People were looking at the healthcare system and lots of people were challenging it and saying, \"Look, this doesn't make any sense. The whole thing is irrational. You know, it doesn't make people well, you can't figure out how to get through it, it's enormously expensive,\" they went on and on. And a lot of radical critiques of the healthcare system said, \"It's irrational, it's not really a system.\" And then this organization called the Health Policy Advisory Council wrote a paper and then a book. And they said, \"No, you got it all wrong. It is a system. And it's a rational system. The only problem is, it's not a system to provide healthcare. It's a system to generate riches and wealth for the people involved in the system, for the people who work for the system.\" And so that was another example, I think, of there being a set of data and a theory, the two things not matching. But then when the theory was reconceptualized or reestablished, you know, all the data fell into place. At least that was my perception and I think the perception of many other people. And what I would like to do is just try in the remaining few minutes of my talk, to try to build that reconceptualization with you. Dostoevsky, who you all have heard of, I'm sure, he said that if you want to judge a society, you should look into its prisons, that prisons are a reflection of society. We spent some time looking in prisons. Let's just briefly look at some of the statistics about society from the point of view of black/white differentials, which is relevant, I think, to what I'm trying to do here I've gathered these data, they're all pretty recent, but whenever they're not very recent, the more recent data will be worse. 10% of white people live below the poverty line compared with 25% of Latino people and 32% of black people. Black median family income is about half of white median family income. The median net worth is $40,000 for a white family and 3000 for a black family, so the white families therefore own on the average 13 times as much as black families. And a government study predicts that by the year 2000, 70% of black men will be unemployed. The black infant mortality rate is twice as high as the white rate. The black maternal mortality rate is three times the white rate. White people live on the average about six years longer than black people. The average black man will not even live long enough to collect his Social Security. And a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine, our most prestigious journal, has found that the life expectancy of a black man in Harlem is less than that of a man in Bangladesh. 4%, these are all about education. 4% of doctoral candidates are black. 4% of college faculty are black. Again, black people are perhaps 13% of the population. 7% of medical students are black, and this percent has been decreasing since 1972. 2% of physicians are black, 2% of medical school faculty are black, 2% of dentists are black. 5% of law school students are black, 2% of law school faculty are black. 1% of lawyers are black. All of these figures, by way, include all of the black colleges in the United States. If they get omitted the figures become far more odious and dramatic. Now I would like to maintain to you that when you assemble the conditions of life that I've presented you with, the rates of imprisonment that I showed you earlier, and many other phenomena that we're all aware of in society, that these conditions together all amount to genocide. And I would suggest to you that the United States is committing genocide against black people. Now, I know that this is a very emotional word. I know that, you know, it brings on strong responses to all of us. And it is not really essential to me that you agree, as long as you understand the true awfulness of the situation. However, I do believe that what I've shown you is consistent with the United Nations' definition of genocide. The General Assembly of the United Nations, 30 years ago, said genocide consists of one or more of the following. Killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting upon the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Now, again, I believe that this is a process of genocide that's going on. These were some people who actually I was demonstrating with at Pontiac Prison in central Illinois, you can see the prison there in the background. They were maintaining this not too long ago. I don't know, two, three months ago, there was a series of shows on the same night on ABC with Ted Koppel about the black so-called underclass and lots of black people were on the show saying, \"Yup, it's genocide.\" Ted didn't agree, but you know, that's another topic for another time. Now, when a people are confronted with this situation, with these kinds of conditions, with this kind of attack or oppression we might call it, being human means you're going to resist these conditions. No group of human beings will tolerate them without resistance. And indeed I think the history of the United States in many ways can be characterized by the history of black people fighting against racism in the United States, and also in pursuit of their own freedom. And this struggle, I think, has been a longstanding one. There's this book by Vincent Harding called \"There is a River\" and he documents the struggle, which he says flows through the history of the United States. It's another wonderful book in paperback if you'd like to read it. But I think when black people had struggled, it's not only been against racism, but it's been in favor of their freedom, it's been an effort to create a new way of life. I just have some slides of some of these moments just to show you, this is one of Dr. King's marches in Selma, Harriet Tubman leading the slaves out of the South. These are prisoners rebelling at Attica in 1971. People protesting the racist murder at Howard Beach a couple of years ago. And of course, Malcolm X. Now it's at this stage, I think, that I would like to begin to propose my reconceptualization to you. For those of us who were around and, looking at you I think there were very few of us who were, but during the sixties and, you've heard about the sixties, right? Everybody's heard about that? During the sixties and seventies, and even the late fifties, the struggle of black people literally shook this country to its foundation. And it did more than just shake this country because it, many people who were involved in national liberation struggles in Africa have written how they were inspired by the black struggle here in the United States. Many African leaders are always quoting Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, that's a common phenomenon. And the United States then, and I have lots of reports done by government agencies, were consciously saying, \"Look, this is getting out of control. If we don't stop it, we're going to really be in trouble.\" And many programs throughout the United States were instituted to try to deal with this situation. One was the invention of the criminal justice system. I mean, all of its elements and components existed but it actually was invented in 1965. And it was then that you had the initial departments of criminal justice sprung up, that for the first time. What I would suggest to you today is that the true purpose of prisons has nothing at all to do with crime. That is not to say that of course there aren't criminals in prison, but it is to say that the prison system today has as its true purpose the containment of black people, and other people of color as well. And that's what it is about. Now when I put forward a hypothesis like this, or a theory, like all theories, it's meant to summarize the data and to be tested by the data. So I think, although this might be an unusual theory to most of you, what I would urge you to do is put it up against the data. On the one hand, you have a model and a theory that we're told about every day by every organ in society, that prisons are about crime. And yet hundreds of facts, some of which I've shown you today in many, many more which exist, all say they're not. So I'm giving you an alternative theory now to consider what the purpose of prisons is. And I would urge you to think about it and consider it and if I provoke some thought, then that's really good. There's one last thought I would like to leave you with. As was mentioned at the beginning, you know, I've tried to work in issues surrounding prisons and racism for several years. And I've come to believe that as conditions worsen every day in this country in general, and for black people, of course in particular, that the role of white people, of us white people, has to really be examined. More and more, I believe that any middle ground that may have ever existed is eroded and we now have to take a stance. We could declare ourselves to be on the side of black people in their pursuit of their freedom, which I believe in the end is our freedom as well. We could try to learn and understand from their struggles and generate struggles ourselves, or we could be on the side of the racist criminal justice system. Some pictures of that criminal justice system. We can be on the side of black people in their fight for freedom, or we can be on the side, I don't know if you can see this very well, of this, this is a white man who's holding a sign, congratulating Bernie Goetz, the guy in New York who shot four black teenagers on the train. Here's a woman signing a petition to bring back the death penalty. We can be on her side, or we can be on the side of the pursuit of freedom in this country. So I would like to stop now. I would like to thank you very much for your attention. I appreciate it, especially through these, that difficult beginning period. And if you would like to talk, if you have any questions or any comments you'd like to make, I'd love to hear it. And if those of you would like to stay later on and see the video or videos we have then that would be great. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Raise your hand and I guess, Steve can call on you and we can have--\r\n\r\n- Yeah, also, don't be polite, I mean I, yes.\r\n\r\n- I would like to urge you to think about altering your presentation. One point is you made some comments on the history of science. I think Copernicus died as an old man. His theory, at first blush, did not improve the fitting of the data at all. The epicycle stuff of Ptolemy was actually very good. Why don't you get a history of science book and look up that chapter and maybe you'll have to alter your talk. I would suggest also that you talk to your doctor friends and ask about the quality of the New England journal of Medicine. Have you ever noticed that you never see news stories from any other journals of medicine? It turns out that they have a special editorial policy which doesn't make them the National Enquirer of medical journals, but there are policies to get those kinds of articles that get in the news. And I think you should be a little cautious about endorsing them so emphatically. Okay.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- You stated all these bad things that the prisons are doing. Do you have any alternatives? It seems like you, you started out. I, when I came to this presentation, I was under the assumption that you were going to talk about what is wrong with the prison system and you got into discrimination against blacks, you know. Do you have any, what is your, what do you suppose like a resolution to this situation?\r\n\r\n- Well, I agree with that quote, I don't know if you were here at the time, by Nagel, which said that the causes of crime in this society are rooted in the nature of society and the social inequities. And I think until we generate a society that is based on fairness and not inequality, that is based on, say the needs of people instead of the needs of a few people to get rich, that crime will persist and the use of prisons will continue. I don't have any great solutions. I don't know what you do in the middle, you know, of a situation that's crazy. I don't know how we get out of it except to fight for a fair society. I wasn't trying to talk about discrimination. I was trying to show why the prison system, A, is not about crime, and B, how it doesn't help anything that I can think of. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I have a couple things I just want to get at. I agree with your presentation, but if you're talking about the true purpose of the prison system, and I think you have it right, the repression of redundant populations, particularly, blacks and Hispanics, minorities. But on top of that, also, ask yourself this question. Why, for example, in Europe, where a European political system, they may have eight or 10 political parties, while in the United States we only have two parties, the Republicans or Democrats. Why is that? I'd suggest to you that we also use prison systems to lock up white politicals. And I think it's about time we say that. You know, Eugene Debs' friends, Socialist Party, labor leaders, the federal prison system is full of socialists, full of labor leaders, full of cultural people from the sixties. The whole drug war is really a war against our generation. It's a political war, it's not a drug war. On top of that, something else I just want to suggest, if you think back historically, you think about Cervantes, Victor Hugo, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Solzhenitsyn, you think back about a lot of famous literary people, art people, Van Gogh, for example, they were all convicts. They were locked up. Every political system has used prisons to lock up painters and artists and poets and politicians that they found to be somehow threatening the system. And we're doing it today in America. So it's not just holding down and containing minority populations, it's holding down and containing a lot of political dissent. I'm a former federal prisoner. When I was in federal prison, the prisons were full of labor leaders. You wonder why there's no unions left? Because the leadership was in prison.\r\n\r\n- I thank you. I appreciate that, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Are you basing your data on blacks who go to prison on whites and blacks prosecuted for the same crime?\r\n\r\n- Well, no, I mean, this is data that's taken from government publications. 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prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=14.885,18.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's much more interesting to me what happens","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=18.1,20.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in society to send people to prison,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=20.52,23.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I think there are only two possible theories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=23.52,26.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, there are lots of 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40-week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1561.31,1562.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's also a fact, keep your hand up, I'm gonna call you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1562.63,1565.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's also a fact by the 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Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1578.18,1579.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e We can't assume that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1579.51,1580.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1580.4,1581.233"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Everyone who's in the penitentiary--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1581.233,1583.051"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1583.051,1584.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But would you think at some fair proportion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1584.35,1587.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1587.09,1587.923"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you think it's some fair proportion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1587.923,1588.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I agree entirely with you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1588.86,1589.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but probably it's fair proportion, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1589.98,1592.563"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't 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them","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1608.07,1609.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that this is wrong and that this isn't working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=1609.96,1612.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You gotta go, it's not working, but you 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people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=2443.72,2445.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could go on and on and on like that in many ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=2445.82,2449.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525/transcript/27179/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, by the way, I think women are terribly 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It's much more interesting to me what happens in society to send people to prison, because I think there are only two possible theories. Again, there are lots of variants, but either we have a racist society which creates the conditions that lead to imprisonment or black people are genetically predisposed to commit crime. Now there's not too many people left fortunately, who believed the second. So even if black people go to prison more because they commit more crime, and that's what Nagel was saying, what kind of society do we have that leads to that situation? I've shown you the data, which is really true. A black person in this country is almost twice as likely to go to prison as a black person in South Africa. Imagine, what does that say about our society? One question then.\r\n\r\n- Okay, I've done a lot of reading, not just on this topic, but discrimination in general. And I think a couple of questions that it would have been nice if you were to raise the fact that say a white person kills a black person, the type of crime he's charged with. Because, for instance, in New York, when those five teenagers killed that one black guy, they were charged with something like involuntary manslaughter. Okay, now, if that had been five black guys after one white guy, then all of them would've got charged with first degree murder. If you look at the type of crime that a black is charged who commits a crime against another black person it's also relatively a minor crime. So that means it's encouraged for blacks to kill blacks, for whites and kill blacks. However, if you look at the type of crime that a black person is charged with if he committed a crime against a white person, it's much, much more severe, and pretty more likely to get even a death penalty.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- And I've done a lot of research and that's one thing I know, that is a fact and that's true.\r\n\r\n- Right\r\n\r\n- That probably all matters.\r\n\r\n- Right, it is. It's, that's a great point. It's just, I feel bad about bombarding people with just such a huge amount of data. The one crime that's been studied the most carefully, of course, is the death penalty. And it's been found over and over and over again, that there's an enormous amount of racism present. Even the most recent ruling, the Supreme court even said, this is Reagan's court, but the Supreme court said, yes, it's racist, but we have to go on. And they said that verbatim, or almost verbatim in their decision. The ruling was not challenged. Someone submitted a big research project and they found that for exactly identical cases, if you killed a white person, you were four times more likely to get the death penalty than if you killed a black person. And different variants of that have been found constantly. And that I think is the most, of course, the best studied crime. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I've got a whole list of things here. But my first is what's the title of your presentation?\r\n\r\n- What?\r\n\r\n- What's the title of your presentation that we started to hear--\r\n\r\n- Oh, the title was The True Purpose of the Criminal Justice System.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's different than what we saw on the walls. But my next question was that of racism in the criminal justice system, I guess, is I was alluding to what the person's comment was earlier. But some of the things I was wondering about, first, why don't you go back and do like the gentlemen are saying over here, go through either some of the things that Wilbanks did, or Amsterdam did, then when you get referring back to studies, without telling us what the studies were, and you and you keep showing us 1980 data. And I wonder since, you know National Institute of Justice, Bureau of Justice Studies, et cetera, you can get data that's, that's pretty recent. Why do you use 10 year-old data? I guess I'll just stop with that.\r\n\r\n- Well, it's much easier if you have substantive comments to make. For example, Willbanks study is all about racism in the criminal justice system. As I said, I find that kind of an uninteresting topic, because I'm much more interested in racism in society. And furthermore, Willbanks' study has been challenged by hundreds of people. And I think that even that study is totally unclear, but it's just not that interesting to me. And I didn't discuss anywhere in here in my presentation, the racism of the criminal justice system. I was discussing, or I was trying to discuss the racism in society. With respect to the data, I have a paper here which you can take, which contains references, and some later data. some of this has to do with the expense of the slides is I asserted. And if you would like to challenge or have be any evidence, that you could tell us all and help us, that although some of the numbers are a little bit old, none of the relationships have changed at all. So, as I said, international imprisonment rates for example, sure very hard to find and I've never seen a complete set like that. Again, I would love to. what happens is, you know, I'll be reading something, I'll come across one country and read another thing, come across two other countries, and one thing is 1983, and the other thing is 1985. And it's been very hard for me to gather, say that comparably. But I try to present you all here this evening, with, I think, a drastic political argument which I think certainly deserves challenge and reputation. Although it's what I believe and the best I could do. but I tell you as honestly as I can, I mean, you have no reason to believe me, you don't know me, that the numbers are true. I'm professionally a statistician. I'm used to dealing with numbers. Now, I've done the best I can, not to deceive you with the numbers. But politically you could easily have an argument on that. Yeah?\r\n\r\n- Well speaking me, for more than one the audience with you up there presenting your ideas, do you have a focus? What is it that you want us in your audience to do in response to what you've presented?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't know. I could tell you, I think it is the responsibility of every white person to fight racism every day, in every way. I think there are any numbers of ways in which we can do that. See, I think that not only because that's what prisons are about, but because I think it is through that process that we have a chance of generating a human society, something I think we don't have now. I, myself, I work in this group called The Committee to End Marion Lockdown which is about prisons. And many of these formulations are not just mine. They're things that the whole committee has evolved together over the years. We have lots of literature which you can see gave reference to a few things, and this is a copy. This lists our resources. And if there are any other ways. I don't know what to do, to be honest, to change things. But I do know that things need to change. And I think that it is especially incumbent. See, I believe that, black people are going to do what they need to do. And they're gonna pursue their own agenda. And quite naturally it'll be their freedom from racism and freedom beyond from other restrictions. And they'll do that as however they see fit. But I think what I have to address myself is how do I as a white person interact in that process? how do I work to also bring about an improved society? And that's not much of an answer but that's the best I know.-\r\n\r\n- What are you doing in regard to the lockdown? I'm thinking of concrete activity toward objectives that you said.\r\n\r\n- Well, we are an activist organization. We have lots of literature, lots of information. We have demonstrations often down in Southern Illinois at Marion Prison, sometimes in Chicago. Recently we had a campaign and we had friends in seven different chapters, and we had simultaneous demonstrations on this past May 5th in Portland, in San Francisco, in Denver, you know many cities like that to try to bring our message across. In this particular instance, prisoners of Marion were being forced to use water from a Lake that was contaminated with PCBs and other serious contaminants. And for years they've been fighting that. And right after the demonstration the Bureau of Prisons announced that they would be changing the water supply. So that was one very small victory that we won. I mean, Marion is still there. It's still brutal. And as I mentioned earlier, they're now planning a bigger and better prison in Colorado. We're a small group of people. I don't know what the answers are, but I do think we have to try and strive in that direction.\r\n\r\n- I don't know what your views are because you didn't say anything about the news media and how they handled situations like this. One thing I've noticed having worked in the news media and I'm currently working in it, is that this situation with the the lady in New York, the jogger--\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Those kids got put through the ringer-- by the news media.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- I think so.\r\n\r\n- The main reason was because, I think, they were black and she was a white jogger. And if if you were to reverse that, and it was a black woman jogging and four white males, I don't think it would have made the first two or three pages of the newspaper.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Along the same respects, if a white policeman shoots a black kid, you know not knowing what situation, necessarily, but just the general statement that receives more attention and is built, it's automatically we're thinking discrimination there and a racist cop. But if a black cop shoots a white kid, you don't hear nothin' about it. That's just the way it is handled in the news media. And I wondered if you had any thoughts on that?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. But just try lookin' at the situation Aims. Four people have been raped at Aims, more or less just the beginning of the semester. Okay, now the four people that did it, or if it was just one person have all been described as white males. And the police are doing basically nothing about it. There was a big rally about this last Friday. The police were doing nothing about, oh yeah, okay. Okay, but if it was all black person, if there was a even slightest chance that the person who did those rapes were black, every black male in Aims, would have been kicked in the head at least three times.\r\n\r\n- That that's what I'm sayin'. But I agree with that. And I think that's wrong. But there's also that reverse of it too, that we always hear--\r\n\r\n- I don't know. I come from Chicago. I lived there every year of my life, except for while I'm here at Iowa State. And I don't ever remember hearing of a black police shooting a white kid. I've never heard of that.\r\n\r\n- You never heard of that?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, see with respect to the larger issue, I see you come next. So with, with respect to the larger issue, you remember I started, I don't know what was clear, or I can't even, to be honest, quite remember fully what I said. But I believe that we have the physical reality of prisons and who's in 'em and stuff like that, which I tried to explain to you. But more important than that, we have these ideological blinders that are placed upon us all. So that the only solution to virtually every social problem sounds like it's prison. Lyndon Johnson did the war on crime. Bush now has the war on drugs. They should just stop and say, it's the war on black people? Then at least no one would, would be confused. And we could get down to dealing with what needs to be dealt with. The ideological boundaries in the United States are very tightly drawn. Just this one very quick anecdote. Some of you may have heard of Noam Chomsky. He writes a lot of stuff. Anyway, he's a critic of the media. And he wrote this article several years ago, a Soviet journalist was put in prison because for three or four shows in a row he had criticized the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. And hundreds of journalists in the United States rose to that journalist's defense. And Chomsky said that, that was a good thing to do, and they were right. But a more important question is why has there never been one journalist in the United States, who's talked about the US invasion of Vietnam. He wrote this several years ago. He could just as well today say why hasn't anyone, when we're talking about, you know the invasion of Kuwait, how come no one's talking about the invasion of Panama, for example. Well, Chomsky said, but this is much more remarkable because you could understand Soviet journalists being afraid to say that, because they wind up in prison. But why is it that no us journalists will ever say what Chomsky asked? And his answer was because our media are self-censoring. They understand the boundaries. They inculcated the values, of what the government wants us to believe. And they pass that down to us over and over and over again. So part of what I'm thinking about these days and one nice aspect of getting a chance to talk to people like this for me, is that you try to figure out, how to say things you're feeling and thinking and how to make a good argument for them. But it's that what you have to overcome these ideological blinders that are placed upon us. They're placed upon us in part by the media, but also the media themselves wear them. I don't know how we get them to break with that. For a start we might have some black news reporters and some black editors and some black publishers and that would be a beginning. But there are hundreds of other ways one could think about it. But as Steve said back there, they'd all get fired immediately. So, you know, I'm sorry.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I just wanted to add something to Steven said, 'cause I think he did real well with the civil rights idea that the system does repress and discriminate against African-Americans. But also I think it's important for white people to realize this, is that what you showed us, that the rate of incarceration and has gone up 300% in the last 10 years, the last 20 years. That we have the highest rate of incarceration, the longest prison sentences, and the biggest prison population of any country in the Western industrial world. And then, although it's overwhelmingly black, 50% or more are black, but white people, remember it's 50% white too. And that rate is going up. And it's impacting severely on the black community. But it's also impacting on the white community, because we are losing freedom. As you said, it's ideological. We are becoming a rich-afied society. We're afraid to speak out anymore. This drug war, we're even afraid to be politically free anymore. And young people don't realize that when I look back on what things were like in the sixties, how much freer we were 20 years ago. How much more free we were to express ourselves 20 years ago. And I think 1990, it's becoming scary almost how inhibited people are, particularly this generation, because they didn't grow up in freedom movement of the sixties.\r\n\r\n- There's one hand up I'd like to, no, no, let me ask, you know, sometimes I talk and sometimes I'm in the audience and I noticed that there's always a lot of people who I know were thinking a lot of things and don't say them. So if there are people who haven't spoken yet and you would like to ask questions or make comments and don't feel bad about arguing with me. That's fine. Awesome, yes.\r\n\r\n- You say that Mr. Bush is using this drug war as a racist tactic against blacks, and you think it's really that or more or less a political weapon to reinforce what white is right and to use it with the American public and get him reelected.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- I can't really see his using it directly in a racial--\r\n\r\n- I agree with you a lot. I would say it's both. I don't know which one I would say it's more, but it's absolutely a lot of what you're saying. This is a very interesting debate that takes place, I think, among the eight people who think about these topics and that is whether, for example, attacks against black people are more efforts to physically control black people or to ideologically control white people. Do you know what I mean? Like, for example, people have written historical studies saying that one of the fundamental purposes or functions of slave catching was not so much to bring the slaves back. Although, that was certainly it, but to keep the poor white people in line and give them something to do. So in the same way, I would say that this war on drugs is absolutely a political maneuver, designed to gain power for Bush. I've seen studies, for example, people may not know this but drug use apparently is at a 10-year low. It was at its high in 1979 and has been decreasing ever since. When Bush came into office for weeks and months on end, they did a survey which they always do, and they said what's the number one problem confronting you? And the public would overwhelmingly say, the economy. And then Bush began screaming, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs drugs. And after a couple of weeks people started saying, well, it's drugs that's the number one problem. And so the reality hadn't changed the all, just the ideological shift and the charge. So I really agree with you. I, myself would like to take what you say as friendly amendment and not try to judge which is more the purpose. On the other hand there's no other group of people that the war on drugs could be waged. It's not like it could be waged on students or people who live in Iowa. There's only one way you could wage that war. So yeah.\r\n\r\n- So are you saying that the war on drugs is has no redeeming qualities that he's just doing it to gain political enormity and the only reason he's doing it is for himself to get back into office again. I'm sure drug use has gone down but also the effects of drugs and the new drugs that are out has gotten worse with the introduction of crack. More people are dying now because of that. Some people wanna stop that. What's wrong with that?\r\n\r\n- Oh, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that everybody knows that the war on drugs has absolutely nothing to do with stopping the problems with drugs, just like prisons have nothing to do with stopping problems with crime. Every spec I know and have seen, points in that direction. I agree, I don't mean to minimize the problem with drugs. I think it's terrible and very serious. I'm just saying, why now is it being instituted? And you have to look and try to wonder not only instituted, but why in this strange way? Bush is being criticized by wardens and sheriffs even are saying, \"Look, you're crazy! \"Because all you're doing is putting more people in prison. \"And we know that has nothing \"to do with stopping the war on drugs.\" What about prevention? I just saw this study, you know, I work at the Center for Urban Affairs. Someone just did this study, I can't remember now in what city, but they went and asked crack dealers, what would make you stop? And they said, \"A $12 an hour job.\" Now, I don't know if they were telling him the truth, but I'm inclined to believe something like that. They didn't say, \"What salary would you need in a job to stop?\" They said, \"What would make you stop?\" And I think they thought maybe they were going to say the death penalty or something like that? And they said like $12 an hour and I'll stop. Now, if that's the case, why would you build more prisons? That's intuitively what I would suspect. That's what Nagel says up there. So what's the purpose of more prisons and more guns. And this madman, William Bennett, running the program none of that makes any sense. So it's not, I'm sorry if I gave that impression. I'm in favor of dealing with the drug problem. I just don't think that the war on drugs has anything to do with it at all. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Talking about the war on drugs. How difficult would it be for a country the size of the United States to stop drugs from coming in from Florida? It comes in from probably the Mexican border. It comes in through Florida, comes in through California, basically. Now how hard would it actually be if the war on drugs really was the war on drugs for America to stop drugs from coming in? And America, in the past, has had no problem with going into some country and taking it over, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia or wherever. We've had no problems in the past with going in and doing what we pleased in the name of democracy or whatever it is, they claimed was right at that time. So we could go down to San Salvador, El Salvador, Ecuador, wherever the drugs are coming from, stop it right at the source, if that was a true thing. I agree totally with what you say. The war on drugs has nothing to do with drugs at all. Now drugs are introduced into black communities by white people. And now this has gotten to the point where it's affecting more white people than black people now. So now they figure that, well maybe we should say there's a war on drugs. But really, if we lose a few white people to stop all the black people then that's okay too.\r\n\r\n- You said that it looks like we're more racist now than we were shortly up to the civil rights movement. And what was the ratio of whites and blacks, and weren't blacks in prison about the same ratio that they are now?\r\n\r\n- It's gotten a little higher. It depends when you say the end was, but it's gotten a little higher. But you see what happens when there's a big ratio and then things increase equal. So the ratio stays the same but the absolute numbers become overwhelming. Do you know what I mean? So although the ratio, I think maybe then it was five and a half or six to one. Now maybe it's eight to one say. So the ratio hasn't changed that much, but the numbers are so overwhelming. It's like one out of four. The whole community is just being devastated.\r\n\r\n- Is it the judicial system, is it just the idea is putting more people in jail? Does that seem to be asking about more prisons?\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry to say that thing again.\r\n\r\n- I don't see anybody asking me about more prisons. It seems more more prisons .\r\n\r\n- I don't know much about how the funding takes place. In some states there are specific initiatives in support of buying bond bonds have to be issued for prison construction. So those are put to the public. In other cases, for example I think the way it happens and filters down to us is that they're law and order candidates. For example, Bush did this thing with the Willie Horton stuff. And I think people think that carried the election. I don't know. But you see, I think what Dukakis would have had to do is to tell the truth about prisons and crime and all of that. And he clearly wasn't about to start that. So he was left them with no response. Bush is saying, lock up everybody in the United States, especially black people. And Dukakis is saying, nah, just most people. It's not a real way to argue that the question and don't know who gets asked this. But I think it's undeniable, we're living in an era of law and order hysteria. And I don't know quite how it gets combated. That's what I was trying to do today was to suggest that that was a problem, you see. Oh yeah?\r\n\r\n- You mentioned before that it cost a million dollars to keep someone in prison for 30 years and that $12 an hour job--\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Taxable income.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- For 30 years is 750,000.\r\n\r\n- So we could use it. Did everyone hear what she said? It was a great observation. If you paid someone $12 an hour for 30 years it would be less than the cost of keeping them in prison--\r\n\r\n- a 40 hour week.\r\n\r\n- For 40-week. It's also a fact, keep your hand up, I'm gonna call you. It's also a fact by the way, that it costs much more to send a person to prison for a year than Harvard. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- That's assuming they want to go to Harvard for a year. That's assuming they want to work 40 hours a week.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- We can't assume that--\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Everyone who's in the penitentiary--\r\n\r\n- Right, right. But would you think at some fair proportion?\r\n\r\n- Sorry?\r\n\r\n- Would you think it's some fair proportion? I agree entirely with you, but probably it's fair proportion, right? I don't know. That's just speculation. I don't really know--\r\n\r\n- Along the lines of a alternative, Don't you think that you have to think of something? If you're gonna try and change somebody's mind on something, can't just go and tell them that this is wrong and that this isn't working. You gotta go, it's not working, but you know, we've got to try something else. Here's something I've come up with as an idea. You just, can't go up to somebody and say, it's not working. You gotta change it.\r\n\r\n- You, let me tell you. I'm sorry to admit this because I was telling them earlier, I was always told that if you have slides and you're more than 50 miles from home then that's the definition of being an expert. So I have slides and I'm 50 miles from home. So I'm standing in front of you, but you know I'm not that smart. That's the painful reality. And I'd be glad to sit down with you and many others to figure out how to go about it. I have a few raggedy ideas that I could tell you, but the truth is I don't know the answer. I do know that I believe strongly what Nagel says that social inequality and crime is there and prisons are there and they have nothing to do with each other. And turning our attention there to deal with that problem is a meaningless wasted effort for society. And it's totally destructive of anybody who winds up going into the prison system. So I know that's one place to start. Her calculations are brilliant. I'm gonna put it in my talk next time, share my honorarium with you. For example, that would be a great idea. Say somebody's about to go in to prison. And say that the person is not someone really threatening. We could discuss what that meant. You might say to the person, look, we'll either put you in prison or you have to promise to go to work every day, this year for 40 hours a week. If you do, we'll pay you $12 an hour. And if you really mess up, we'll put you back in prison. That would be awesome because then the person would pay taxes and not go to prison and save money.\r\n\r\n- Another job for the person that has to watch over them.\r\n\r\n- Well, that's a problem. Yeah Bill?\r\n\r\n- Just part of the answer that I would give to your question about what alternatives? I think we need to start looking at given the failures of the present system of retributive justice, of punishment, which doesn't deal with the victim at all. The victim is basically ignored. He might get some, I guess satisfaction out of knowing that somebody else's suffering that that made him suffer. But that's not doing much more than still being a victim. And given the fact that what this system does is make offenders into victims as well, because of their long prison sentences, and the type of treatment that they face in there, I think we need to move from that kind of system to more of a restorative type of justice. One in which we look at the situation, look at the crime and figure out how to get the situation back to where it was as much as possible before the crime was committed. And that means, maybe sitting the offender and the victim down and figuring that out through mediation. It could be in a restitution. It could mean a lot of things. It does make a lot more sense than what we've got now, and it would be cheaper.\r\n\r\n- What about repeat offenders then? If somebody does that and they sit down with the family, you know, they stole something from him or whatever, they sit down with them, they say, \"Okay, I'll work for you, to help pay back.\" Maybe they did something to their house or whatever. They sit down with them and they work this out. The person works for him. It's all paid off. Person goes on and does it again, sits down with the family, works it off. It's one of the things that you need to look at, is why is the crime being committed. And there are a wide variety of crimes and can't generalize. But if you're talking about theft, if you're talking about property crime, the odds are that it has something to do with poverty, with unemployment, with either lack of education or lack of job skills. And so, I mean I think you need to look it causes in that way and figure out more than just the immediate situation, but the broader social picture. And unless we do that, you're right, the causes are still gonna be there.\r\n\r\n- Steve.\r\n\r\n- You gotta rebuild the South Bronx, South Detroit, Newark. You've gotta rebuild the West side of Chicago and the South side. You gotta take billions of dollars away from the military and start pouring it back into the inner cities, rebuilding the housing projects, giving people the right to a way to own a house, rebuilding their schools, take the damn bars off the windows in grade schools, rebuild the subway systems. You could put people to work for constructive employment. That's the way you get at lowering the crime rate. The last thing to say is, we already know about the 1990s and year 2000 is because of all these prisons that they've been building. We know that the crime rate is gonna skyrocket, beyond anything we even know. Because when all these people are sent to prison in the seventies and eighties, when they get out of prison, as they will, in the nineties and the year 2000, you're going to have skyrocket prison. You're gonna have more crime than we ever dreamed. Because once you send people to prison you fabricate them into criminals. And the only solution we have is burn down the prisons, tear them down, knock them down and start building houses, schools, hospitals, jobs, rebuild the cities. That's the only solution. And anybody here knows it. All you got to do is go to South side Detroit, South side Chicago. Look at the slums and look in the ghettos. That's why we got a problem.\r\n\r\n- I think what Steve is saying is that both of us are sociologists, and sociologists have been studying this issue for several generations. And we know that the answers are there. It's nothing that is radical here, but there is a case where policymakers have no desire to listen to social scientists who can tell them this sort of thing. It just doesn't fit into their system. So there's a convergence between policymakers and the social scientists.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I agree. We need to rebuild the inner cities and that social economics is a cause for crime, but I don't want rapists, murderers. I don't want them running around in houses, in hospitals, I want them behind bars. I feel much better myself with that, you know?\r\n\r\n- I agree with a lot of that sentiment. Of course I agree with the formulation as you've posed it, and I don't know what you do in the middle of a crazy situation. That's real hard to figure out how to get out of it in a sense. There are hundreds of subtleties of your formulation we could discuss. For example, most people who murder do it only once. And, in fact, it might be interesting to know that they do it against family members, not against the public at large. And that, in fact, this is such a well-known fact that insurance for murderers, if people go to work, you get insurance against damage they would do when you hire them, and it's lowest to murders than for any other ex offenders, because they're sort of the safest people once they've committed their initial murder. So, one would have to think of the subtleties of it. Do you know what I mean? You don't believe me, but--\r\n\r\n- Yeah .\r\n\r\n- Well, I know but anyway, all I'm saying is, I agree though. There are a lot of people who are incredibly messed up. And there are a lot of people in prison by the way, who aren't. They're both. And the situation is what do we do today to begin to get out of the bind? You know? that's, that's the question. And, and I think, that's what Steve, and I'm sorry I don't know your name, but the man behind him was addressing. If anything, the strength of your suggestion that we really do know the answers. And it makes sense to me that you all do speaks further and further reinforces my proposed reconceptualization, although maybe with Steve's modification that Is, I do think people really do know the answers. And they're along the lines that have been discussed and the spectacular refusal to pay them any mind year after year after year, suggests that this is not an accident, that people are are doing it sort of on purpose. You know, it's funny cause I showed you that quote from Curry. I don't know if you remember, but it says, if we know so much, how come we're not doing better at it? It's funny 'cause Curry's a very progressive person. And I really liked his book. You what Curry's answer is about why we're not doing better is because of the research that shows that prisons fail is hard to understand. Now, if you stop and think about it, it's ludicrous. The book is excellent, but this one explanation is absolutely ludicrous. Here's an industry or an institution with an annual budget of $25 billion a year. And Curry is saying, the only answer Curry could think of about why we're not doing better is that the research is hard to understand. I think if you examine it the way I try to suggest it, you won't be able to find a reason why we don't change the system that is not consistent with the point of view that I set forward. We don't change the system because it's doing what we want. That is, it's containing ungovernable segments or something like that. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I agree with you that there's a problem with our current prison system because the system is not working. That's obvious. And I do think that there is a racial problem in the country. But I don't know, I still have a problem with seeing that we're being racist and we're creating genocide against black people with the prison system. I'm really bothered by that. This man back here said the areas of high crime and a lot of the drug problem, I don't know, I don't have the facts. But maybe there are a lot of blacks in that area and that's why they're higher. And maybe we need to look at well, why is that? I don't think that we been fair to that group of people. We need to do something to help them, but saying that whites are racist and that's why we throw blacks in jail because we wanna get rid of them, there are lots of whites in jail. So, if all the whites weren't racist, then we wouldn't need them imprisoned, or what's the deal? So really--\r\n\r\n- Well, those are good questions. Here's how I would respond to that. Again, I don't know. I said a lot of words. I'm really not quite sure what I always say, but I didn't mean to say that we're committing genocide by putting blacks in prison. I showed lots of conditions of life. Remember I had those 10 items about the living conditions of black people in society. And what I wanted to say was when you combine that with the nature of imprisonment with many other things that we all know about that go on every day, that all of those together constitute genocide, not just that the imprisonment does.\r\n\r\n- Then what does that have to do with it .\r\n\r\n- Because what I was trying to do was build up to the fact that if you have a society that has a racist structure. You clearly have people who are not gonna like to be part of that society and who are going to in any number of ways, rebel against it. We can respond in either of two ways. By addressing the inequalities that have generated the rebellion or by putting people in prison. We've done the second and that's what I think we shouldn't be doing.\r\n\r\n- But see, you could take that same for instance, women .\r\n\r\n- No that's all right. I think you're asking a good question. One would just have to think about it. Women, I don't know quite how far to get off. You should think about it for example, is the position of women in society like the position of black people in society? Say let's talk about white women for a second. Do white women have the same life expectancy? Do white babies have the same infant mortality rate? The white women have the same kind of money at their disposal as black people? You could go on and on and on like that in many ways. I, by the way, I think women are terribly oppressed in society and I oppose that oppression as best I can. I'm not speaking against it. I just mean if you're trying to figure out how that winds up, with respect to prisons I think it's a complex story that one needs to think about. The other thing is I know this is complicated. And I myself don't know how to untangle it when I speak, but I've tried real hard today, not to talk about whether the criminal justice system is racist. I think that's an interesting question and we could talk about it if you want. But to me it's less interesting and much less important than whether society is racist. See, even if it is true that black people commit more crimes and that's why they go to prison more, and I think it's sort of true and sort of not true, not nearly true as much as they go to prison more. But to me, then you have to say, why? What kind of a society have we created that generates that situation? And as I said to a question back here, I think, there are lots of different kinds of answers but in the end they all fall into two categories. Either we have a racist society that generates the conditions that lead to that situation, that is more crime in society or black people are genetically predisposed to crime. Now, as I said you can say things different ways, but I think, if you wrote down all the explanations, you really could factor those two into those two broad categories. And I certainly don't believe it's the genetic explanation. And then I think it's even a more powerful indictment, you see if it's, if it's the racism of society, rather than the racism of the criminal justice system. Because that I think, calls for even greater self-examination of what we're about. I'm sorry see, just a second. Did you wanna--\r\n\r\n- No go ahead, no.\r\n\r\n- Okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n- is the best estimate of violent crime in terms of conflicts is that only 15% of the prison population was convicted of a violent crime murder, be it murder rape or assault. 85% of the people that are in penitentiaries are there for property crimes, like stealing a car and writing bad checks or selling marijuana. Those are property crimes. Those people are not a threat to you on the street. 85% would be. So theoretically you could do away with 80 or 85% of all prisons and still keep locked up, at least for some period of time people who have committed violent offenses like assault robbery, armed robbery, murder. With that, I'm trying to suggest as many people go to prison and spend many years, for nonviolent crimes.\r\n\r\n- Steve, we should maybe-- let people break.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- And then maybe show the films for those who want to stay.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Maybe one more question or comment.\r\n\r\n- How about, is there any one last comment?\r\n\r\n- Okay, well let's let's--\r\n\r\n- I want to say.\r\n\r\n- It was addressed a little while ago that the gentleman down here said something about security not doing anything about the rapes on campus because the description was a white man. I work with security on campus And I can tell you that we are doing stuff on the average weekend night, right now. That are places in my assist, the area that I work in with twice as many guards on duty as it was on that night, last year.\r\n\r\n- I think he was addressing the looking for them.\r\n\r\n- They've given us descriptions. We're looking for who we can find, but we don't have anything.\r\n\r\n- I'm not trying to put you down.\r\n\r\n- We communicate with the highest security and everything, and they are doing something there. I'm not actively involved in an investigation but they've given us the information. , what we can find and they are working on it, but they can only do so much and there's no leads, they can't go after a person, no matter what color they are.\r\n\r\n- Okay, well listen, I need to stop this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42913/file/115525#t=0.0,2729.136"}]}]}]}