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Good evening. On behalf of the ISU Space Society. I'd like to welcome everybody. And thank everybody for showing up this evening. I'd like to give you a little background on our speaker tonight is Mr. Brian O'Connor. Brian O'Connor is the chairman of NASA's Flight Safety Panel and was pilot of the space shuttle, Atlantis, logging 165 hours in space. During the mission, the crew deployed three communications satellites and conducted two spacewalks to demonstrate space station construction techniques. He received his Masters in Aeronautical Systems from the University of West Florida and is graduate of the Naval Academy. And as of recent, he has been named to command the space lab shuttle flight in June of 1990. Like y'all to give a warm welcome to Mr. Brian O'Connor.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. I'd like to thank Andy McGuire and his fellow officers of the society, Mark Griffin and Paul Hardison, and also to Pat Miller who's the lectures program coordinator who helped get me here today. All these people took their own time and the students of those took a lot of time out of what I guess you call the crunch or that period of time when you're trying to get ready for finals and final projects and senior projects and so on. I also appreciate the fact that so many of you here showed up tonight to hear a little bit about the manned space program, because I know you're all trying to get ready for tests and so on, but if you'll bear with me, I would like to bring you a little bit up to date on your space program, especially your man space program. Last week, we had the flight readiness review for our next mission, which is scheduled to go on the 28th of April. This will be the fourth mission since the accident of challenger and truly we feel in Houston that we're really back in the manned space program again. I think we were the same as everybody here, when the discovery went up for STS 26, holding our breath, at least through the time when those solid rocket boosters fell off. I was telling some of the guys at the astronaut office has always tended to be that way, but I think the whole public is that way now. People who used to cheer when they saw the shuttle lift off the launch pad now kind of hold off a little bit until I see those rockets fall off. I wanna tell you a little bit about that recovery period. It took two and three quarters years to go from the challenger accident until STS 26, the return to space flight. That's a long time, but we're talking about an incredibly complicated piece of machinery in a space shuttle. Now you all who are working in engineering fields and especially the aeronautical engineering side of the house probably have been exposed to the fact that they don't build aircraft and spacecraft like they used to back in World War II, where they would go from drawing board to dropping bombs on the Nazis in only 90 days. Those days of building aircraft and aircraft systems that quickly and certifying them for safe flight are gone. They're long gone. We had a choice after the challenger accident we could have when we realized what the problem was. And by the way, we found that out fairly quickly, we found out what the problem was on the challenger accident, as far as the design of the solid rocket boosters go within weeks of the accident. We had some people who suspected it right away. And as we pulled the pieces out of the water and we looked at the films and especially on the films, we realized that there was a gross design problem with the solid rock booster. And before Dr. Feinman on the commission, did his little demonstration with the cold water and the old ring, people in NASA and the contractors knew that we had a cold weather problem. We had a design problem and an environmental problem, the people who work the design and the people who knew the environment hadn't talked to each other well enough before that launch. In fact, before the first launch of the shuttle. It was a breakthrough, not only in the design area, we had a piece of equipment break on us, but it was a fault of the whole management scheme, the whole way we were doing business in NASA. And that is part of the reason why it took so long to come back around. We had a new design on the drawing board and ready to go to print and ready for new metal parts and new forgings within a couple of months after the accident. And we were testing prototypes of the new design by the next summer, after the accident within six months. But why did it take two and three quarters years before we could fly the shuttle again? The main reason for that is that today when you build or you modify in a large way, a big, complicated piece of equipment, like the shuttle, the redesign and the bending of the metal, it turns out to be a small portion of the time that it takes to get it operational again. What really took a long time was the testing and the verification and the certification of that thing. When you look at the test matrix to certify that piece of equipment was gonna be safe and ready to fly, took up a whole page. There were a lot of subscale tests. We had a scale model tests that we had to do. We had full-scale tests, but on only one segment or in some cases only two segments of the whole rocket. We had to fire those things over and over again in different corners of the envelope. We had to do them at different temperatures. We had to basically re certify what we had already done to those rockets before the very first shuttle flight. But we had to go through that whole scenario again. And we actually did it, we did more tests in a shorter amount of time during this turnaround time than we had before the first shuttle flight. But it's the testing that takes so long these days to get things on a complicated piece of equipment like the shuttle. We have another thing on the drawing boards right now, drag shoot. Many of you probably noticed that when the Russians landed their space shuttle, they had, I think it was three small dragster type, drag shutes came out the back. Those people don't have as much trouble getting things operational as we do. It doesn't take them as long a time. We also have a drag shoot on the drawing boards. We've known we needed one for quite a while, but we still can't get that thing on there and tested and certified for another three years. Right now, we're still in the testing phase of a, simulator testing phase where we're doing six degree of freedom simulations out at Aimes Research Center to certify how long the shroud line has to be, how big the shute has to be in order to ensure satisfactory handling qualities when that shoot comes out, doesn't pull the nose back up in the air and so on, but it's the testing that gets you. And those of you who go into aerospace industry, I think you're gonna find that you'll be immersed in that same problem. You're not gonna just be people who are designing things. And then next week come out and watch your product enter the fleet, fly into space, get into the payload bay or whatever. You're gonna be tied up with post design test work for a long time. And so it's test engineering that needs some emphasis. And in fact, there are some people who totally make their living, aeronautical engineers from this room here may find themselves as flight test engineers, where all you will do is flight test on aircraft or flight test on a rocket type machinery. That's why it took so long to get where we are today, but now we're back in space. And the question now becomes what happens the next time we see something that goes wrong. Can we recover any quicker? Are we any better off today than we were then? It turns out that while we were redesigning that solid rocket booster, we kind of took advantage of the American public in a way, and I'm not apologizing for it because I think it's great the way we did it. The Congress came to us and said, NASA, you're down. You need to get back up again. What do you need? And we told them what we needed and they funded every penny of it. And what we needed was not just to get the solid rocket booster fixed, but we had over 300 fixes that came out on the table after that accident. We had a great big house cleaning in fact, just about every person who had a subsystem problem that he'd been carrying along with him for years, everyone who had a safety concern about a design or a marginal factor of safety or a hazard that it had residual risk leftover with it, all those things on came out on the table. We had big debates about how to prioritize those things, which of those we really needed to fix while we were down and so on. And the way it worked out is that we knew that it would take a long time to certify the new solid rocket booster for flight. And while that downtime was in progress, was there anything else we could do to make the shuttle better? Safer. And those 300 things came out on the table.\r\n\r\n- Some of those 300 were not on the flight vehicles. Some of them were with the ground equipment, the ground support equipment down at the Cape, the launchpad and so on, but there were over 200 fixes that went into the orbiter itself and Congress gladly paid every penny of every bit of that. Now we're back in our penny-pinching mode again. And we have to argue for every possible modification, whether it be safety performance or whatever. But during that downtime, we had sort of a grace period where we were able to get into the kind of mode we used to be back in the Apollo days when money didn't seem to be a factor. There was another thing that went on, though. We weren't just fixing equipment during the downtime, we were fixing the way we do business at NASA. We had a safety program, for example, at NASA, that was pretty bad. There was a lot of talk about how unique, in order to have a good product, you need to have a system safety effort that goes alongside of it and asks those questions about hazards and failure modes and so on. The what ifs. What if this fails? What will happen? Should we fix that? That sort of dialogue needs to go along with any design. And there may be some of you in here that find yourself as system safety experts after you've gotten out of this environment here, and you get into aerospace industry, you're gonna find that there's some big openings in that area. NASA has turned around how it used system safety. We had safety people at NASA and in the contractors who had been stuck in that job because the contract says there will be a safety officer, or there will be a safety program. Those people had been stuck in those jobs for years. And it turns out that in order to have a good safety program, you have to have people rotating in and out of that kind of a job because safety people are the kind that come in and they don't have good news. They always come in and make life difficult for not only the designer, but also the operator. And you can only put up with that sort of thing for a couple of years, maybe three or four years before you burn out. So safety is a discipline that needs to have fresh people coming in all the time and you get the most out of them. And then you send them back to design and engineering and flight test and operations. And they've got a good outlook on life when they go back to there because they have now looked at it from the safety viewpoint. They take that viewpoint back with them, but you don't let them fester there, you don't let them get old and crusty and let the point on their spirit get dull. And that's what had happened at NASA. We had people in the safety organizations who had been there in the same jobs for 20 years, and they had totally lost all their credibility. They really didn't know what was going on anymore. They were just going through the paces and we really had a very poor safety program, the independent safety people that were supposed to be doing a job of making sure that things didn't fall through the crack had fallen through the crack themselves years ago. I think you'll find right now at NASA, that it's a totally different outlook. We've got good people in safety, people that were at the top of the heap in operations and engineering have now been transferred to safety. And they're finding that they enjoy it. Safety is one of those areas where anything's fair game, you can go and you can ping on any part or any aspect of the operation or the design engineer's world and be useful to the program. And that's what we're looking for is people that are interested in that sort of thing that have a system engineering outlook on life. And NASA promises and the contractors are promising now that they will do that for long-term. We've seen that we do have to have that independent bunch to help us with our designs and make sure these problems don't show up again. So I say that because this is kinda new and there may be some people in here that don't know anything about systems safety, never even heard of it. But if you go to work for a contractor that works for the military, especially, or for NASA, I think you'll find that there's gonna be a big call for credible well-educated systems engineering, background safety people who can help us get the job done. That's one of the other big changes that we made at NASA. And one other word on changes that we made after the accident, and that was risk management. Risk management turned out to be an elusive subject. It basically is managing a project that has risk to it. And the decision making process that you go through day after day in deciding which kind of modifications to put in, and when, whether something ought to be changed, what kind of operation we're doing, and could we change that? And we spent a lot of time working on how to manage risks in the program and view the fact that the space shuttle is quite a bit different from the Apollo and the Gemini and the Skylab projects, the space shuttle flies, and then it comes back and we have to get it ready to fly again. And we found that we were in a different mode than we used to be at NASA. We're making decisions about things that ought to be done between flights. The vehicles will get old after a while. People will find cracks in them when they come back, should we fly it again? Or should we fix it? These kinds of decisions we've never had to make before. We're finding that we're making the same sort of decisions as people who fly airlines and people who fly combat aircraft, and those kinds of trade-offs that they go through in managing and maintaining those vehicles between flights. So that's another area that's received a lot of attention. A lot of high powered thinking has gone on in that area. And we have found that the safety people that we have hired and nurtured here this last few years, to get them to a point where they can be useful to us are also being very useful in this risk management area. We're finding that we can ask those folks to help us with those questions and act as not only just auditors of what we're doing, but also advisors. And so the whole thing kinda tends to be a big reawakening for NASA on how to do a business. Now that's a little recent history, I guess, but what I'd like to do now is get you back to the space shuttle. I had the tremendous privilege in 1985 of being allowed to fly on the shuttle Atlantis. And we had a seven day mission. We deployed some satellites. We had two fellows on board that did a spacewalk. Dr. Mary Cleave waved them around on the end of the arm for a while and did some science and all in all, we did few things for our country and we had a good time while we were at it. I'd like to refresh you on what the space shuttle is all about. And in order to do that, we, in the astronaut office have made a movie, that takes a bunch of little clips from various space missions, not just the one I was on, but various missions to show you some of the things that can be done and have been done with the space shuttle, why it's a unique vehicle and will be unique for a long time. And it also shows another side. And that is what's it like living on board? What's it like to be in weightlessness? The living accommodations, how you eat and sleep and so on up there, a little bit of that is in here too, because we always tend to get a lot of questions about that side of it. You should be aware that as the space shuttle. continues to fly now, we're kinda getting out of the commercialized side of the house. You will notice in this movie that I show that we were getting pretty heavy into deploying commercial communication, satellites and television satellites. NASA, as part of the, the re look after the accident has decided to go back to expendable launch boosters, to do some of those things that can be done by other vehicles and to spend a little more time working on scientific missions with the shuttle, because that's where the human being in space is really key and unique. And I think that the next bunch of missions that you see coming up are gonna be those that are uniquely suitable to the shuttle. But I'll go ahead and talk a little bit about some of those satellites that we did deploy on earlier missions. If I can have the lights turned down and we'll start the projector. This was a five-person crew, but these guys turned on the camera to kind of fool around with the capsule communicator, make it look like six. This is the shuttle on lift off, got a little jumpy tape. The field was jumpy as well, I'll tell you that when those two solid rocket boosters fire, you know you're headed someplace. It's like somebody came up from behind you and hit the back of your seat with a four by four. It's not quite like those earlier attempts. And it's amazing to think that it was just 40, 50 years ago. These people were doing these things. This is the first rocket pilot right here. And then here we were in the sky that day in the mid 70s, Alan Bean doing something somersaults in the big Sky lab. Just 25 years ago, we had Alan Shepard, launched her 15 minutes, suborbital, but it was the first American space in that little mercury space capsule on top of that red stone. And then just within 10 years of that, you had the biggest space vehicle ever to take people in space, Saturn 5, took three people to the moon. Here's a shot of John John who was still an active astronaut down in Houston, and here he is driving the Lunar Rover. And there's another shot down, walking across the moon surface. He told me that when he came back into the Apollo, the Lunar Asset vehicle, after that moonwalk, that he had a sneezing fit cause he got dust in his nose when he took a suit off. And he's the only guy I know that ever got moon dust in his nose. Here's a typical space shuttle launch. You lift off, you've got about five and a half million pounds of thrust that flames about 700 feet long, 108 yet. And when you roll over, you're rolling to the launch pad most of the launches are 28 degree cause that's the latitude of heath and arrow. And this is what it looks like at the pilot's window. You're upside down now, so you're going from upper right to lower left there. And you can see as you go through the atmosphere, how it changes in color, the day sky is black up there. You can't see the stars in the daytime. You only see them on the night side of the earth, but it is black. This is a shot of the shuttle taken from a little satellite that was deployed out of the shuttle on STS-7. And we take the inside the cabinet to get a little idea there of the Roy bridge is floating around of the weightlessness. Ever seen Bob Griffin and his group, coming out of the pictures and it's kind of neat to be able to just go head first and out of the top floor to the lower floor, but not everything about waving since that neat, paper is a real problem up there, just trying to fold it or scroll it or roll it out in a ball. It's not that easy. And so waste management is a big issue up there. This is one of those communication satellites I told you about. Typically we deploy those at about 150 to 200 miles up, and then they have their own motor that takes them up to 22,000 mile orbit or geo station. We have a couple of different modes. They all tend to be spin stabilized. This is the Frisbee bolt here that we use at the CIN comm satellites. It's quite a lot bigger satellite than the other type, the Hughes satellite. This is an RCA television satellite. The mission, I was on, we had one of these and two of the Hughes satellites, one for Australia and one for Mexico and one for RCA, you get an idea of what the earth kinda looks like as you look out there and not all satellites were deployed that way. We've just deployed this satellite, earth satellite with the arm. The arm's 50 feet long. It goes all the way down the side of the payload and it's a pretty nice object to have. We used it on her mission to hold up the Space Walker. We haven't done any spacewalks since the accident. To tell you the truth I don't know when the next one is planned, but I believe by they're thinking about doing one next year. This was two other guys getting ready to go into the airlock, where they put the rest of their suit on. And here you see one of the missions where this is the Palapa satellite, which was damaged. It didn't work properly. It didn't get up to its orbit. So they were able to, but the reaction control system de orbit it to a shuttle compatible orbit, set up shell and mission up there just to retrieve those two satellites. This is Joe Allen with the man maneuver unit. He is not connected in any way to the , I think to the orbiter pieces on the space craft? There's a immense view of them flying around. The satellite weighs about 3,500 pounds and you can see that up there as long as you're slow with it, you can maneuver the thing around with your hands. Now, this is a sit-com satellite, it's a little bigger, weighs about 6,000 pounds. And this is often on the end of the arm. After we had retrieved that satellite and fixed the problem that they had with it, then they manually deploy it. And he was able to stand up with his hands like this and deploy that side of it. Again, there's a unique capability of humans in space. Of course- Superhuman. This is a shot that I took of Jerry Ross. The guys on our mission were building space station structures. These are prototypes structured system here is called the Inverted tetrahedron. And this one is a 40 foot tower, may have smaller pieces. And the two Space Walkers basically would build these things and then take them apart, build and take them apart. And they also manipulated them to show that a human being could take a big 400 pounds structure had to move it around his head, and really, basically no problem. And this was one of the space lab missions, where you got a big laboratory size of a small bus back in the back. after a long day of science and research, it's nice to do a little workout. The shot takes us back to Jack Lauzon on Sky Lab. Notice the quality of film has changed over the years, just in 10 years, but the way we do it now is this things down in the mid deck. There's not as much room as there was in the Sky Lab. We had that treadmill. Then we have Gordon Ford here demonstrating zero G pull ups. And everybody knows they do military missions. But nobody knows what they do. I'm here to tell you, this is what we do on military missions. On one of the flights, we took some basic toys up from the local museum, spent a couple of hours photographing various little toys that kids are familiar with so that they can see what does and doesn't work in weightlessness. Give him a little better idea of what weightlessness is all about. As you can see in the yo-yo is no big deal. Jacks are a little different though. And how about this little car around the race track? See that's when the kids begin to understand about weightlessness when they see these things. Here you see Bunco taking a little dryer on and spinning around, tumbling it, and then showing me what happens after you spin it up or says he pushes on that thing with the little string supposed to stay in that same altitude. The museum got a big kick out of that. They made a movie out of all these little projects that they show to the kids in Houston. Now it's time to dig into the pantry. All the food that we eat is basically kept in plastic containers. It's either dehydrated or irradiated. We don't yet have a refrigerator freezer on board the shuttle. And really we don't need one. The food that we take up there is fine. It's not what I call great, but it's active. And after about three or four days, you're pretty hungry. You could eat anything. The idea is you take the little container and you put the two, three ounces of water in it. You put it in the oven and- That was us. Here's your handling on this. NASA was worried about them and the Amazon there, said I'm on the race, but that's what they are. This is Dinky Nelson demonstrating how a fluid ball. That's coffee right there. Nice try. This is a ball of orange juice and sort of freezing together. I don't know if you can see that, but there's a bubble right in the middle of it. Of course, in weightlessness, bubbles don't go up or down or anyway, they stay right where they are. And that's why we don't take Coca-Cola or any kind of fizz drinks with us is the bubbles will stay in your stomach and you can't get rid of it. After all that fluid, you gotta get rid of it. This is the bathroom. You got to the little privacy curtains on there, and that's the toilet right there. It's a zero gravity hijack toilet, it's got the switches and dials on it. We don't have a shower like we have in the Skylab days. Skylab was a little bigger and it had a shower that they would pull on around him. That's built full demonstrating, basically, you just squirt water on you in the vacuum a lot. We do have other things. You've got the shavers and you can brush your teeth. and they'll issue you toothpaste that you can swallow. So you don't have to worry about that. We asked Gordon to demonstrate the whole toilet gig here for a film, which he said, he'd be glad to do. And after all that, it's time for sleep. It wasn't really easy to sleep the first night. People were still and a lot of drilling going on. So this is a little later in the mission. But you basically get your bag and you just pin it up any place you want and you turn off the lights, put the shades in the windows and get in the sack. And what you're looking at here is the orange glow around the windows. During reentry at night. The whole vehicle was bathed in that ILM shield. As it comes prying on sheaths, as it comes down through the atmosphere. Back in the holidays, you came back down by parachute and the ships went out and were retrieved by the water. A space shuttle's different. It comes down and becomes an airplane. It stops becoming a space vehicle and becomes an airplane as it comes down. This is one of the landings into the cape. We've made five landings at the cape in Iowa, one at white sands, New Mexico, and all the rest of it at Edwards Air Force base in California. It comes down at about 17 to 19 degree glide scope, especially on about 200 knots, which is about 220 miles an hour. You see various landings here in different sites. We're trying to minimize the, what we call the H-dot the sink grade, because the landing gear are not stressed like an Indie aircraft on here. So we try to respond as best we can. Try to get somewhere around two feet per second. Centigrade, touchdown or less. There's a slow motion shot on landing on the cake. People that are in the seas like that shot. This is the view on the pilot's window. Sorry, it's bouncing around like that. But what you do if you need that those lights, which are about a mile short of the runway, and then down 2000 feet, you begin pulling those up. And then you aim at the runway. The outer left stoke your 285 knots. And the lift to drag ratio is so bad in this glider that you must hold 17 and 19 degree glide scope in order to hold your speed. So when you pull the nose up, you begin to slow down and you touched down about 2000 feet down the runway, then you open up that speed break on the rutter. So you have the rutter splits in half there and that does give you some pitching moments to keep your nose, do your rotation under control. And after about some, anywhere between eight and 13,000 feet of rollout by the crew, shuts down the systems, and then they find out they'll get their physicals and then go see their families. That's a technical space, shuttle mission. Can we get the lights please? Those of you that need to go someplace or go study or whatever, feel free to do that. I'm pretty informal about these things, but there may be some of you who wanna ask some questions and if so, I'll be glad to answer them as long as you want. So any questions? Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering the status of the space telescope.\r\n\r\n- Question was space telescope, when is the schedule? The last schedule I saw still showed it in December and I don't know how the sunspot activity is gonna play into that schedule. Yeah. The schedule yesterday showed them that it is still in December. The sooner, the better, there's a lot of people waiting for that and have been for a long time. And it's tough keeping that mirror polished. Somebody was telling me today that it costs a million dollars a month to keep that space telescope certified and ready for flight. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- What kind What kind of educational backgrounds can you ?\r\n\r\n- The question is what kind of educational backgrounds do most of the astronauts have? Most of the astronauts have engineering and science degrees. We may have one or two with a math degree, but predominantly engineering and science. Most of the pilots have engineering degrees. And about half of the astronauts are pilots. The other half are our engineers and scientists, and we have six or seven medical doctors. We have quite a few, I'd say four to five astronomers and astrophysicists. We have one environmental engineer, two or three civil engineers, several mechanical engineers. Some of the mission specialists are military non-pilot type, mostly flight test engineer backgrounds. And I think that pretty much covers most of them, backgrounds, heavy in engineering and science. We don't really have any liberal arts majors. We have a couple of started off that way. For example, Sally Wright had her bachelor's degree, I think it was in history or English. And then she got into astrophysics or something that I can't explain. Yes, sir. Yeah. What are your feelings? And do you have any proposals about joining the US Soviet in space missions.\r\n\r\n- Question is joint US Soviet space mission. What do I feel about it? And how does NASA feel about it? We had one of those back in the Apollo Soyuz program, and to tell you the truth, there are a lot of folks around NASA who feel like that wasn't really a two way street. That the Soviets walked away with a lot more information about how to do space programs then than we did. They were not as open as we felt we were. Today, it seems like that environment is changing a little bit. Through the years, there's been one discipline that has tended to keep track of Soviets and American is pretty well. And that's the medical discipline. A lot of the research that the Russians have been doing in their space station, in the medical side of the house, they've had what appears to be a pretty free exchange of information with our folks, but in a lot of the other disciplines, the communications basically went away, stopped. There are a lot of folks who feel that if we're ever gonna go to Mars, that we really ought to do it with the Russians. A man mission to Mars is gonna be so darn expensive that a lot of folks feel like the only way we could ever afford it is to go with them on it. So that kind of talk is going around, but I'd say that the hard feelings between the Soviets and the Americans, as far as the space people go are getting softer. And we're going to symposiums now where cosmonauts and astronauts are invited at the same symposium, talking about the space operations and cruise scape things and docking, and those sort of things that we weren't doing too much of that four or five, six years ago.\r\n\r\n- Yeah,\r\n\r\n- Do I feel like it would be advantageous for us to make a manned mission to Mars? Yeah, I sure do. I think that would be a great goal for this country to jump onto.\r\n\r\n- As opposed to like a space station\r\n\r\n- Okay, compared to the space station. NASA really feels like a space station is a stepping stone to a manned Mars mission, because we need to get life science questions answered on a long duration on a platform like a space station. And we also feel that the space station is a literal stepping stone to a Mars mission. You may even build your Mars vehicle on a station rather than down here. So it plays pretty heavily in all those discussions. They're not meant to be competitors, station's part of the plan. I think any kind of a long-term goal, like going back to the moon, going to Mars, anything like that has much better, much more benefit to it than just the act itself. It's like the Apollo programs for the moon, the spinoffs of that program on technology, miniaturization of computers and the health industries more than pay for the home program many times over. So going to the moon was expensive. It costs taxpayers $25 billion, but we got a lot of return off that. And unfortunately in this country today, we're finding that there's a real reluctance of industry and government to think past this term or next year's bottom line, or next quarter's bottom line, because, and we're going in short steps like that. To think of something such a long-term goal as a Mars mission. A lot of people don't wanna be bothered with it, or they can't see the benefit coming out of it, but we know it would. Yes sir.\r\n\r\n- A crew escape, has NASA decided on doing a crew escape system for the shuttle.\r\n\r\n- Crew escape on the shuttle. That's a pretty tough proposition because you're talking about retrofit. And remember I told you about how hard it is to make major changes to a space vehicle? Crew escape, an adequate first stage, crew escape system is just out of the question. And we looked real hard at it after the accident. We decided that we were gonna do whatever we could for crew escape, but we weren't gonna hold up to the next launch. And so in two and a half years, we developed a crew escape system that basically is nothing more than parachutes and survival equipment and a way to adjusting the hatch. And that's about all we could get in there. To put any kind of escape system that would get the crew out of the vehicle for a first stage or when I say first stage, I'm talking to those first two minutes of launch because we have solid rocket boosters that cannot be shut off or cannot be throttled back. If there's any drastic thing that happens in that first stage of flight, there's really nothing the crew can do. You can't separate from the tank for example, and just fly the order away from stack because the structure can't handle it. The forces that you've got pulling on that structure is attached to the order are pulling too hard and there's no way to release yourself from it. The only way to do that would be to have all the thrusts stop and float, and then you can separate from the tank and that's the way the Russians do. Russians have liquid boosters. So if they have a big problem in the first stage, they can shut them off and then they can separate their order off of it and glide down to either a landing or a ditching. So they thought about cruise escape in the first page and their answer was liquid boosters, but with a solid rocket booster design. You light the fire and it's . They go for two minutes and then they stopped. And you're pretty much along for the ride there. The only way you get a crew out of a situation like that would be for some kind of projection system or a castle, it could be a Jennison off the orbiter. Like we used to have in the Apollo and the Lunar Mercury design, but to retrofit those types of systems onto the order, number one, you would have been a tremendous weight penalty. And we wouldn't be able to take anything to order. Number two, the objection concepts. We need to carry crews of up to seven people to do our mission. And there was no way that we could come up with a system designed to successfully eject seven people out of a vehicle like that first take, and if you can't get them all out then it's not a successful design. And that's pretty much NASA policy back in that, on the fifth flight of the space shuttle, we had two injection seats in the Colombia. You may remember the first four flights in the shuttle were two person crews. And they had those two ejection seats that were basically borrowed from the SR-71 aircraft. They were about 300,000 foot projection systems, and that was their own load. But on the fifth flight of the shuttle, we carried four people and they couldn't fit. Those seats were huge and you can only get two of them in there. And so with four people in there the pilot in command were still sat in those objections seats, where they had to pin down and they were unusable because we knew that the other two guys sitting in the back would not be able to get out. So that's why I say that if you're going to have an ejection system, you have to be able to get everybody out. 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