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Thank You.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42898/file/115496#t=1460.41,1462.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42898/file/115496/transcript/27123/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Kirkpatrick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42898/file/115496#t=1471.46,1472.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42898/file/115496/transcript/27123/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we'll just move right on 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On behalf of the students who organized this fine conference, let me welcome you. Those students are, Holly Hunt Strayer, Joel Swanson, Heather Carver, and Darren Dykstra. And they worked tirelessly to get these speakers to campus and to put on the rather remarkable education that you've been able, many of you have been able to get in the last two days. I'd like to take this occasion to reemphasize the importance of the study of religion in this conference and in this university. And toward that end, I'd like to introduce my colleagues. Professor Mary Sawyer. Mary, would you stand? Mary teaches Historical Sociology of Religion. It's a special interest in African-American religion. Paul Hollenbach, who's sitting here. Paul's specialty is in Biblical Studies and as an International Authority on John the Baptizer. Jodi Rottler. Who's sitting in the second row here. Many of you know, from courses in religion in America and also in women's studies. And Ted Solomon is sitting over here. Ted does Eastern Religions and World Religions and is teaching a seminar on Joseph Campbell. And, who am I? Who am I leaving out? Nancy, Professor Nancy Wareheim. Is Nancy here? Nancy has just published a book on Education and Pedagogy of the Oppressed and teaches courses in women's issues and also in Philosophy of Religion. My name's Gary Comstock. And it's my pleasure now to rehearse quickly for you what's happened in the last two days and then tell you what the panel's going to do tonight. We started with Kirkpatrick Sale discussing the Columbus myth. And telling us that there are many myths about Columbus including the one, Talk to My Daughter that Columbus discovered America. And I would like you to think tonight about my daughter, Krista, who needs reeducation. And what I've asked the panel to do tonight is to think about what the myth of Columbus is, that she has learned. And to give me some advice, if they would, at some point about what sort of myths of the origins of this country I ought to encourage her to think about as opposed to the myths of Columbus. Kirkpatrick said that some of those myths are that Columbus was named Christopher Columbus. He wasn't. That he proved the earth was round. He didn't. That he intended to conquer Asia. He didn't. He intended to civilize the world. Some of the consequences of that myth are that European ideas, economic and political orders have been legitimized and rationalized by religious institutions and myths and imposed on people indigenous to this culture. As a result, a virtual genocide and even ecocide has been visited on people and Flora and Fauna in this continent. Peter Paris. That's my immediate right. Kirkpatrick Sale is on the end. Then spoke about the effect of the Columbus myth on African-Americans in this country. And he said that African-Americans will not be celebrating the quincentenary of Columbus' bumping into this continent. Because it perpetuates a myth of greed, selfishness, death spoliation of natural resources. All of this legitimized by the Spanish crown and the Roman church. He pointed out that African-American Christianity is unique in having, I found this quite interesting, is unique in having a long history of non racist morality. An inclusive morality. And he noted that even those Christian denominations that were abolitionist and opposed to slavery denied that the, that the races were equal. And in fact, their meetings to abolish slavery were segregated. So he asked, how do you, how do we change this myth and suggested we use the technique of willful neglect. That we make every effort. And we intend not to perpetuate the myth to each other and to our children and prepare, do what we can to prepare the nation for the defeat of this, of this myth. Professor Clara Sue Kidwell, to my immediate left, from the University of California Berkeley. On Sabbatical at Irvine, this semester, talked about the effect of the myth on Native Americans. She pointed out there's, that there's no such thing as the Indian worldview, of which some people, many of us often talk that the cultures that were in. What we now call North America, Central America and South America were incredibly diverse with hundreds, if not thousands of different languages and cultures. So we bought not to perpetuate that myth of there being an Indian worldview. Nonetheless, there are there are some common features that we find in many of these cultures, one of the most important being a view of nature as an org, as organic, as animate, as alive. And she contrasted this with the, what she called the Greco Roman Judeo-Christian, Western Scientific Worldview which views matter largely as dead matter colliding. She talked about the danger of, of myths about there being a single Indian worldview about Indians being savages to be civilized and so on. By saying that such myths reduce the complexities of life to over simple facts. And one of the most destructive myths in this country, is that this is the Savage New World which is here to be tamed and civilized by Europeans. Then this afternoon, Professor Lewis Rivera Pogon from the University of Puerto Rico on the end, spoke of the effect of the Columbus myth on Latin Americans. And he made dramatically the point that every act of Columbus' dis, so-called discovery, was accompanied by the act of taking possession of what he discovered. Taking possession. That's accompanied by religious rituals, as Cola as Columbus, himself notes, that were rituals of taking possession of these people and this land that was not addressed to the natives being taken possession of, but to possible European competitors. Who might also want to take possession of this land and these people. And this ritual religious and political act was made possible because the Latin Americans and Native Americans who lived here were regarded as something belonging to nobody. So they were ripe for possession by someone. The Spanish naming of the islands. Professor Rivera Pogon pointed out was a renaming because Columbus and other colonizers knew that the lands had native names. But in renaming the names, with Spanish names, they expropriated property that was not theirs. That's a quick and much too simple review of some very fascinating lectures of which I believe we have tapes if you're interested. And on which, all of these authors have written and I'll be happy to provide you with sources for their for their texts, if you'd like afterward. But tonight, I've asked each of them to take about 10 minutes and address now, the question of. The Effect of the Columbus myth on people like me? People of largely European descent. People who came from the British Isles or Norway, or Sweden. And as they do so, to perhaps make some suggestions during those remarks, or perhaps later, about creating a new myth. All of the speakers were interested in ending this tragic and destructive myth and all have made comments about the necessity of telling ourselves a more realistic and truthful and hopeful and life affirming myth about this country. And we would like to, I would like to be able to take home with me something to tell Krista tomorrow to put in place of the myths that she's being taught. We'll begin with Kirkpatrick Sale.\r\n\r\n- Thank you Gary. Good evening. Gary has set for us a task that would be impossible to live up to in a day and half. It is almost ridiculous to attempt to do it in 10 minutes. The myths effect on European Americans who de-created the myth and have you used it to justify and protect their long history of colonization and the empire here and the Roman world. And so it is impossible to address the entire subject. There isn't one small corner of it, though that I would like to talk about tonight. Seems somewhat appropriate to the place where we are. As Columbus went around the islands, naming them. He named the first San Salvador, for the savior who's protection brought Columbus across the ocean. And then for the King and Queen and the Royal Prince and Princess. But then he came to the island where he would establish. Next, the following year, his colony. And he called that Española. La Isla Española. Spain, little Spain. And this, is not so much because it looks very much like Spain. It was after all. A combination of old grown forests and savannas. And Spain at that time was a fairly well denuded part of Mediterranean. But he had something else in his mind. In the following year, 1493 when he comes back with the 17 ships and 12, 1500 men, he will establish a colony there. He comes back to make that island, little Spain. Now there is a considerable humans there, you see. A considerable previous intention at work to make this little Spain, without any thought for what might be there or what should be there what was there, but rather what he was going to implant. And so, he makes this island into a little Spain as much as he can. And he offloads there along with these. Cows and pigs, sheep and horses. And not having any predators there nor any diseases that trouble them. They expanded populations immediately. And in some respects, took over the island. Columbus landed with 20 horses. By 15-7, the importation of horses was forbidden. There were already too many around there. Pigs grew so fast that according to the last courses they were called infinitos. They were everywhere on the island. And they were all there in service of a Ranchero system that Columbus decided was to be imposed on that island. Nevermind what group probably on that island, what was possible on that island. Nevermind. We would, he posed the Ranchero system from Spain make it grow on that island. Well, some things didn't grow some things did grow. But the Ranchero system existed at least for the first decade, very successfully on that island. And then was imported with all the trappings that we now know of the cowboy culture. Onto the two mainlands that they later discovered. And thus was implanted the red meat culture whose obvious and terrible effects have echoed down through 500 years and are so obvious to us today. Obvious, even in one of the heart lands of that red meat culture. The red meat culture went hand in hand with land ownership. Land ownership. Okay, most voices, most dangerous concept, land ownership but of course, that is what Europeans were used to. That's what they established here in this island. That's what they established when two continents that they were not to control. That the idea that individuals could own land. And as Mr T said, you. Mr. T said, when a few years ago he cut down all the trees on his property. He said, it's my land I can do with it what I want. Very deep in the American soil of his belief. This land is mine. Quite different from that understanding that we know of is expressed by the Indian chiefs who when the whites came and said, we want to buy this land. They said, we can't sell you this land. We don't own this land. We can't buy and sell the land. You might just as well talk about buying and selling clouds or the sky, you can't own those things. The red meat culture, land ownership, and the attitude to nature that those suggest were all imported by Columbus and established on that island, Española. And we are the inheritors of those three very important aspects of European culture. And the Columbus, the poisonous Columbus myth goes right along with all of it. Red meat culture means the destruction and dislocation of habitats. And in particular, the habitats of all the other things that have to get out of the way so that the cabber can have their way and the horses as well. The notion that you have just simply supplant millions of other species so that this one species and its other species the one that eats that meat can do whatever they want. It lies at the heart of European idea, the practice. But you can see how dangerous it is. It has meant for 500 years, the continuing destruction of habitat and the other species that live within those habitats to the point that we can imagine that there was something like seven to eight million species that have been exterminated in the last 500 years. So that the European species might flourish. Then European species, primarily of course, being the large bipedal species, which is us. In the 20th century, this culture, this attitude toward the land, this attitude to nature has exhibited that red meat culture as a source of poisons, even beyond anything imaginable in the past. Continually, continued destruction of habitat both in North and South America. And most recently in the old growth forests of Central and the America. The poisoning of soils and waters right throughout the territory of the tall grass Prairie right wherever the red meat culture and the mono cropping of corn has taken place, the poisoning of soils and waters may be irretrievable poisoning in those soils waters. And I find it hard to imagine that there is a society that will do as as the sign that I saw in Iowa city some years ago. Suggests, it said, this water should not be drunk by pregnant women and children under the age of seven. What are they saying? Is this water is poisonous. Nobody should be drinking this water. And yet they quite likely put up these signs in public restrooms saying to the world saying to themselves, our water is poisoned. How could they live with this knowledge that they poisoned their water? You have poisoned your water. Almost impossible to believe that a society could go on moving. But we know that the soils and waters have been poisoned. The animals themselves are being poisoned and we are eating the poisons in those animals. And I am convinced that the difficulty with our immune systems of which AIDS has taken advantage in recent years, has to do with what we've done with those immune systems, by putting into our bodies all of the meat from animals who have become immune. Because they have been fed chemicals from the time they were born. The diseases in the animals, cruelty to the killing of those animals. The cruelty and the killing of those animals, the whole idea of this red meat culture. And this bind you, but a small aspect of the European heritage that Columbus brought. But just imagine that one small aspect of it and ask, ask yourself, why are you doing this? What madness must wee us down these categories. And to have institutions, institutions such as Cornell university, which is my own bar and it's college of agriculture. And perhaps colleges of agriculture elsewhere in this nation devoted to the propagation of that red meat culture. And it's continuing poisoning of people that none of us have in mind. Gary has asked for some contrary myth put against that. I think we can all imagine various ones, but it's not so much a myth that I want to leave you with, but an image, a contrary image. And that is of, the peoples who lived here first. The peoples who were displaced by Columbus and Hispanics. The people who've died off in such great numbers. Just think of it this way. North of the Rio Grande and especially toward from the Mississippi East, there were living here in 1492. Perhaps as many as 15, 18 million people. They were living here with societies of some complexity with hunting and trapping and fishing and agriculture. In the end, most of the areas. They lived with a considerable amount of travel and in fact, whole villages might sometimes move. Occasionally, people would move, have summer and winter locations. They used fire. Fire for hunting. Fire for burning underbrush. In other words, what we're talking about is 15 million people having some considerable impact upon this island. They lived here as a people always do with a name. And there were places where things got out of plan. Things were badly done. Yet. Every single European that painted this land, described it as a wilderness. A wilderness. More often from the North, they call it a Halloween global ness , a hideous world across the ocean. But they saw it as a place where nobody dwelt. Because, the Indians had taken such care of that nature that it looked to them as if it was a wilderness. Well, it wasn't a wilderness, but they knew how to live. It was such an exquisite sense of their well being nature as a part of nature and nature as home. That they kept it looking like the wilderness to European eyes. And then now I suggest, lies the contrary image that you can take to your child. That we can take to our hearts. That we can contemplate for the rest of this quincentenary year. Thank You.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Kirkpatrick. I think we'll just move right on to Professor Peter Paris from Princeton Theological Seminary.\r\n\r\n- I think in the beginning I'll tell a little personal story. Which I think just germane to what gray have been about and are reflecting now. I'm originally from Nova Scotia where I was born and brought up in Canada. And 10 years ago I became a naturalized American citizen and at the ceremony in the courtroom where 101 of us were becoming Americans. The judge gave a very, very nice talk and he was trying to make us all feel welcome into the citizenship of the United States. And he said that we are immigrants to this country but all Americans are descended from the one immigrant who originally came and that the was Christopher Columbus. And since then, the immigrants who have come to the country have simply been reenacting what Christopher Columbus had done. And that was a bit of a shock to me because I didn't consider myself to be doing that. But nevertheless, there wasn't any opportunity to protest at that particular time. I want to say that the Columbus story is not a genuine myth. Because genuine myths do not leave behind hand written documents by its chief heroes and heroines. But rather, this Columbus story is a distorted historical story that has taken on myth like significance and meaning. But myth large is not exactly the same as a genuine myth. But nevertheless, it can function quite similarly and it does. The problem here is that historical evidence, basically a historical story can dismantle the many untruths that the story tell, but fail to large or to dislarge it's myth like character. Because the myth like character is not dependent on factual information. As we understand factual information. We can reorient our minds in terms of truths and untruths but yet still give our devotion to that which is basically irrational. Because it is the locus, our most fundamental values. That is to say that the Columbus story has a myth like character because it personifies the most basic and fundamental taken for granted values that large portions of the nation, hold. And as long as that continues to be the case then the myth will not die. Because it reflects, it expresses the character of the people. So therefore, when I'm asked tonight to speak to the question, the effect of the myth, the Columbus myth on Euro-Americans. I can beg off that question by saying, well, that's a strange question. Because it's asking for the effect of the myth on the myth maker. You see, and that's like asking about the effect of any creation on its creator and it's, the creation is an expression of the creator. And, and so this myth is an expression of the American character. And we have heard over and over again, the features of a myth, whether they are distorted historically or not. People still give great credence and great devotion to such things as the adventuresome spirit of courageous individuals who are not afraid to risk life and limb in search for wealth and power and fame that's what success is all about. And we all like success. Another feature of a myth, is a spirit of triumphalism. There is a victory, winning a victory over astounding odds. I mean, that's what is at stake when we use the metaphor from the log cabin to the white house. It depicts overcoming immense odds. It is, what is involved in moving from the old world to the new world which are already in that metaphor portrays progress. And we are people that love progress. The spirit of triumphalism also has given us a language that is infiltrated through and through with images of conquest and domination and power. And particularly over that which is external to ourselves. That which is quite different from ourselves and most specifically nature, quite different from ourselves and other racial groups quite different. And the idea then is a language and imagery of conquests and dominion which is dominant even in the way that we think of those possible relationships to say nothing of actual relationships. And that is another way of talking about it was. It would be to say the objectification of nature and of the author and a total objectification is to make things out of these entities. And so in the spirit of triumphalism and right in the heart and center of it, you have the predominant paramount notion of European supremacy, which is still alive and well in this country. In spite of all of the many structural changes that have aimed at trying to dismantle that image. And European supremacy is sort of just analogous to racism, white racism. And so these being two of the major ingredients and the parts of them the adventuresome spirit and the triumphal spirit and then God's blessing for all of it. Which is, gives it theological foundations, and it goes very deep into the character of the Euro-American soil. And so it seems to me that we cannot affirm the virtues of pluralism cultural pluralism and diversity and continue to perpetuate this so-called Columbus myth. You see, on one hand we say it over and over again and everybody says it, that we affirm pluralism. But how can one do that with great integrity and still give affirmation to the values that are implied in the Columbus myth? So it seems to me that it is quite possible. Unfortunately, that's like Columbus myth is here for a very long while yet. Because it's going to take, it's taken the nation a long time to build its character. It will take almost as long to change its character in any fundamental way. Now that sounds pessimistic, and that's what it is. Now, it is possible to dream of better worlds. And I think that the times have ways of putting that dream into operation. Is through these kinds of activities that are joined on during this particular quincentenary period of critically looking at the most fundamental values of our national character and calling them into question. And that that is indeed the beginning but we cannot fool ourselves into thinking that we can simply develop a program that will get us a new myth quickly and get rid of this old one. 'Cause it's not going to happen. I think that in, finally, in the final analysis that maybe that we will eventually emerge not in our lifetime, but in the lifetime of some of the generations that can be beyond us. Maybe there, they will generate one myth or it may be that there may be several myths of origin that will then eventually combine themselves in a conflictual way. And real genuine myths often do have a lot of conflict built into them, which show that they have been an amalgam of several different myths. And here, I think in order for the myth of origins to include the Native American peoples and the Euro-American peoples and the African peoples. All who were here at the same time in the beginning then we will need to draw on the myths of all of these people. And they will have to grow together into a homogenized something. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Peter suggested that changing the myth may take us, will take us a very very long time because it involves changing our very character. And connecting this with Kirkpatrick's remarks about red meat culture, you might reflect on how difficult it would be to change Iowa from a pork and beef consuming state. Into one where so little beef and pork was consumed, that there would be open areas for other animals, wild animals to have habitat. You can see why Peter may be pessimistic about how rapidly this myth may change. Okay. We turn now to Professor Clara Sue Kidwell from University of California in Berkeley.\r\n\r\n- I would say that the Columbus myth was not as much created by Americans, but is part of a whole myth-making process beginning with a beginning. And I say that within the context of what I presented today at noon that there is this extraordinarily complex set of ideas and circumstances within which Christopher Columbus was embedded. This is my Greco, Roman, Judeo, Christian Western European Scientific Worldview. Think of the implications of all of those strands that come together and that in a linear sense, impel Columbus into the ocean sea. Agonizing, stressed out, fearful, but driven by his culture to find new lands and to develop new relationships and to take possession of new things. Columbus was not in a sense, a free agent in his own right. He was a part of the myths, the world view that existed in his own time and place. That worldview continues and in the myth of Columbus, for the part that he plays in this overall myth. I see its impact as that impulse to never be satisfied with what one has but to constantly go onward and to seek outward. And this becomes part of the national character. It's certainly not only American, Robert Browning's then commands that each must exceed his grasp. Heaven for looking upward, looking beyond. Star Trek, The Next Generation, where no person, there used to be no man. Where no one has gone before. We're still stuck in that mode of exploration and seeking and going outward. There is a certain Linny Arity in that point of view which I think is part of it's, call it, impulsive power. That there is a beginning that there is some end out there. The end in modern society is now the exploration of outer space and the exploration of the human genome. It is the exploration of the way our immune systems work. It is the cutting edge of science. It is still very goal oriented. The idea that somehow we are going to come to that ultimate nature of the nature of the world that will give human beings a sort of total ability to control the environment and to them, then to their wills. This idea about searching and exploration turns people's attention away from the things that are going on in their own lives. It sometimes, I think becomes a way of turning away from the problems, the anxieties, the stress of modern life. That if one can go and seek new things to conquer, then what exists in your own backyard is it maybe not so important. And in that regard it can turn people's energies away from the notion of the ongoing human relationships that are present in their own lives and how they have to deal with the people and the land where they are. There's a story that people at Sante Frenso tell. And it's written down in book, of course but it was a story about how the Mourel led people on their emergence from worlds below into this world. They got all lined up and then Mourel started digging and each little poffle of earth he handed it down to the person behind him and so on down the line. And as the tunnel was dug the birth piled up behind so that they could never go back to the world below. They constantly moved upward until they got to this world. And in this world, they heard this tiny little voice and that was Grandmother Spider. They could just barely see her, but she was there. And she told them that they should go to the mountains in the South, because that was where it was safe to live. If you go to the North, that beyond that mountain over there. It's quiet, it's cold, you don't want to go there and you'll die of cold. If you go to the East, that's where the Comanches are. They're fierce and more like, you don't want to go there. If you go to the North, it's dark and you'll get lost. And yet, there were those people in that group who said, but we want to know what's over there. We want to go and see these, these things. We want to see whether that's really the case. And so they went. And the people who went East got killed by the Comanches and the people who went North got frozen by the ice and the people who went to the North got in the dark and they all, you know, got lost leaving her family right there. And it was only the people who went to the South to live under sun dew mountain, who were safe and who became the people of Staniel de Fonso. The Western world view would reject the notion that fear should confine people. They would interpret that as saying, obviously fear was being used to confine these people to a place. 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and they are still there. Now, this notion of place ness, and taking care of one's place, and being concerned about what is going on in one's place, is an essential value in Native American societies. And it is value that is totally discounted in the myth of Columbus, the myth of exploration, of constantly going on to new things. The Western worldview embraces age and antiquity as that which we have transcended. It puts it in museums. It may glorify it. It digs up Indian bones sometimes, and puts them on display as evidence of dead cultures. It loses track of the continuity of those cultures. How, although things may change, there is an ongoing core of identity, and that core is very often associated with the place where we are, and even people who had been moved to different places may still retain a sense of that association with some kind of a homeland. And that is a very important thing in terms of how you take care of where you are, and in terms of how you take care of your relationships with the other people around you who share that same space with you. There's another notion in this sort of linear, constantly outwards looking, that it, even in a time sense, says there will be a beginning, and there will perhaps ultimately be an end. If we are working towards some goal. But there's another thing that says what goes around will come around, and when people work in cycles, and when people see what has happened in the past, and this is really a cliche in Western history that if we do not know the mistakes of the past, we are doomed to repeat them. If we constantly look to the future without looking into the past, and if we constantly discard what has seemingly become old or obsolete, in favor of what is out there and unknown, then I think we run the risk maybe of falling off the edge of our intellectual world some time in the future. Overpopulation, degradation of the environment, the idea that if we pollute this land too badly, we can always go out and colonize Mars, yes. The sense of being in a place, and being rooted, and having a relationship, and realizing the cycles, and the repetitions of things in that place provides a certain sense of security and safety, which is nurturing, and which certainly can foster creativity and intellectual activity, and thinking about the nature of the world, because Native American peoples have done all those things, and done them quite successfully in their own places. So if I would propose a counter myth to the myth of Columbus, I might appropriate the myth and say we need a grandmother's spider to keep us where we are so we can take care of that place.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, just go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Okay, this is one very brief. I know we spoke lengthy this afternoon. Just to relate to two issues, I think very Importantly presented to us by because first presentation, excellent. One of the problem of science and modernity and the author of the issue of the myth and counter myth, which depicted the first one this one morning in my comment to brother Named that was fine at the end of the 15th century gave me support in town to work from Southern America not only the confrontation between scientific attribute and the mythical perspective of we need native America, but basically a class off to two mythical luggage I call it the war of myth. These things will be argues Christopher Columbus is rather wait that Dr. David hitting it very brilliantly put into the same category at the Hindus . Document supposed to repeat and redrafted by too many patterns to really believe that it came from the local of the first journey of Columbus. And now another potential is with being put into the venues lest say written by Columbus himself in February 1493. When I studied up the letter I find it full of myth, for example, Columbus is convinced that he will carry their two wives. One of them is McKinney. And the other One island is full of anthropo The second is inhabited by And Columbus developed very exquisitely the idea from time to time the carnivores, the carnivores beast amazon because the carnivores are the only male acceptable only for very brief period of time by the Amazons. so that after nine months cannibals with the, same to the Caribbean Island. Or a Amazons a small from that for them on home. From then on, most expeditions would try to find either cannibals for amazon And the whole history of the first 50, the first five or six dental teeth of the colonization is filled with the search for Amazon's own cannibals And everything that he say that he took over there is a province, sorry, he was not able to visit, he wish that people are born with tails. So that was almost five century before market 100 years of solitude. With which after we, learn we are left with impressions of how sorry we are that he didn't go to that province. And he said that there is another island in which people are totally headless. So we have indeed in that letter an island of Amazons, another with cannibals, a province of people with tails, and another with people who absolutely no hair, Therefore, another myth not only but very really mythical island but also what he says about gold with respect to Hispaniola which by the way, he thinks its extremely big island as he thinks also that Cuba is bigger than the inland and Scotland taken together that in Hispaniola most of the rivers are full of gold but he has been totally unable to store the gold so the explorer when he says that most rivers in Hispaniola have gold, that is not certainly the picture, its not a statement of fact And I think this a statement a proper it's a market or the projection of the mythical conception that Columbus has gold and from now on Columbus is getting to a frenzy of myth or poetic production like these third expedition by bringing gifts to. After talking about the things that the paradise. And he's totally convinced that he is very near the earth the terrestrial paradise. Then he developed the notion that the same his days are but the world is not brown not spherical but like a pear or like the female breast. So that nipple and over the nipple is India. And India is very peculiar cosmography Scientific, These mythical projections of Columbus is the anticipated of what I call For example, You were distributing the that's the mythical conception of the ordinal of humanity and that mythical conception nothing of scientific study of theory of humanity or that mythical conception of the origin of man is contrasted to the different myth or origins or the dialogue debate in 2012 Francis a missionary in 1524 and the survival of the on the will be surviving leader of the Aztec people the exchange is and exchange of different mythical and we should say mythical because its very easy for us to say that the Aztecs are but not so easy to say that we Christians are mythical In that dialogue confrontation between Franciscan missionary and the architect friends were different mythical viewpoints. Finally, the Franciscan missionary established a criteria to distinguish between myth. We won the war. Our God therefore is truly powerful. It has a historical and intersession of out powerful God. So that therefore, power won because the criterion for truth of the different myth. And that's I think that's all I want to say about that point. The second point is what brought about whether we are criticizing the Columbus myth could we develop a counter image and myth There has been a I think the most Mexico. In Mexico, the issue that basically the confrontation is between Cortez and ProTech. If you go to Mexico city and you've got to be like reformer venue which goes from chocolate technic all to the center of the city, the huge you find immense importance statue of but you wouldn't find any statue of Cortez. So that Cortez is considered the archy hero whereas is the mythical hero that embodies the nation's not cortex and that is very important for the Mexican mentality to because Cortemoc is tragic figure. And this are probably analyzed beautifully in the take keel that in Bernice How the the fallen hero develops a tragic in the Mexican person. The second element in Mexico during the independence, war for independence there were independent discussion trying to reconstruct and the image of rebellion and it did not work out. The image that finally was able to mobilize the people of the xs . Now, does that mean that Christian European religion has taken hold of the deep roots of Mexican that might be and interpretation but Jackson the French Scholar who thinks that minister that not necessarily that behind is the mother of the gods and that it is basically religiosity on the Christian so that when court spread out it was according to to Jackson. The first the cultural independence complex convergence of different myth so to say. because Marlene is the Mexican Aztec woman who hates cortes in the Conquest of in favor of Cortes she sexually was in love with Cortes she has Cortes finally married her with somebody else. She said never Cortes and she began the Except that there was no Mexican appreciation of the That's why there has been an attempt to recover the Malinche as the female who was hold by the party dominion of Aztec society as the for Monday and don't we Navy parent that represented by that 100% that by purpose and that therefore preference or kind of the King is not we need to abide by the rules established neither by is gone and very important formation from being the mind from being the, what we are. I don't think to be, to be my. And that's very important transformation because he, Mexico I'm not Mexican and Puerto Rican, Mexican as you can see you mixed to go, this is not murder. I mean, exercise, Parkland, very comfortable. He's Mexican. What actually gives me that maybe you are too much for one way or another seen the problem that you were posting negative. We want to be born. What are we going to be basic? We, that we might analyze very complex issue of the Mexican myth is separate.\r\n\r\n- I should give Peter a chance to respond but I want to get to the audience because you've been very patient. Clara Sue has pointed out that the effect of the Columbus myth on Americans of European descent has been a continuing impulse to explore, to go out, to grasp, to colonize Mars. And she encourages us to become native to this place, to to know our own locations and understand them first. And Luis has pointed out that another effect of this myth on European Americans has been the idea that the reason we conquered the indigenous peoples is because we had science and technology on our hand and they only had myth. And he pointed out that we didn't have science at all that this was a war of myths. And the reason the Europeans won was because they had guns and used violence. So with that I would ask you to raise your questions and direct them to a member of the panel if you can.\r\n\r\n- We, should recall that it was in the 15th century that you're perfected the gun and made efficient use of gunpowder and guns for the first time, never been done before nobody ever thought to do such thing before. Though gunpowder had been known for centuries at that time. Europe perfected the gun and with the gun and the ship and the book produced by All three which were perfected in the 15th century. He was able to establish the empire. And then it became convinced that these technologies were the inevitable and just technologies. And then therefore all other technologies were also inevitable just and here we are.\r\n\r\n- The comment was made that possibility European civilization. Well, I'm not sure if that's true or not but I said it does say to mandate despair because the. So I'm wondering if like to get a response to that. But then the followup question I ask is since I think despair is today possible is not to reject European model wholesale, what I've been hearing but to see if there's anything in that tradition that can be preserved and remedy the situation.\r\n\r\n- Well, I come from a long tradition that is at horror despair simply because that gives up and and I feel that when things are made by humans they then can be changed by humans. And my point is that it takes a long while. I think that we are impatient as American people and we really see a problem. We want to get a quick fix for it. And I think that when things function like there are another pic fixes but that is not just better than simply saying work in a realistic way. It's political realism with a long time long-term agenda. I, when I say I'm reluctant to name the the type of new myth because I think that that is just too, too speculative. I think that myths are not developed that way grow the experiences of the phone and, and they, they merge. And one of the signs of a real genuine myth is that you really don't know when it happened. They can't be dated because they are. So immersed in the fabric of the people's self understanding that they don't have dates and they don't have authors and, and so forth. So that's why I think that it's superficial to try to develop a new Beth but I think that one sets out the conditions and the conditions are peoples who have been thrown together and who have brought their own traditions with them in various ways. And that these have got to negotiate a a life either in of extreme conflict among each other or a life of a mutuality and, and community. And then when one does that with a genuine sense it seems to me that the myth of origin is that wouldn't develop in a probabilistic situation what wrong upon the basic ingredients present in that quote. And that means that everybody would have apart or to contribute, but exactly what that would be. I think that we need to wait another 500 years. Yeah. I would respond that talking about despair and bankruptcy to me represents something that I was talking about which is the notion that we have reached some end point which is not changeable as someplace on some line of progress. We have hit rock bottom and we are going to stay there without considering the cycles and new generations and the ways in which people can teach their children new things as Gary is proposing to do here. And we lose sight of the process and the notion of a kind of stagnation in human society. And perhaps I may be a raving optimist, but I see that cycles and the notion of return and the notion of persistence of cultural values does not preclude the fact that things can change and that there are new generations who are coming along. Well, maybe the, you know the changing agents in that process There is a section which as Brett said the man who was laughing, he has not heard the news. And that certainly pessimism inappropriate response to anybody who seriously built after conditioning the world it's, and then the five and a half billion strength the dominance of one species despair. However, they'll be able to could be a reasonable alternative to pessimism would simply be that you do nothing about that mean greater state. And I offer for you. And the idea that when you say we can't do things that we should learn from the MDX that notion of living in place but there isn't fast in this country right now a movement called bio regionalism that has exactly tried to do this that has been successful for 10 years. And putting out these ideas and adopting them into a modern context. There's a considerable following for the idea of the American NPA today as an ecological model that is an idea that I've done a great many campuses in banks. That makes sense. And there is this to offer us some comfort twice before in the European experience despite the part of the myth that that as soon as other direction we learn, we were capable of learning from our perception of the Indian cultures. The first time was in immediate contact when Columbus and the speechify in particular foot into the mind of Europe for the first time, a vision of the heat got a Tyrian communitarian non-property utopia. And this was such a strong idea in Europe that both Columbus and the speechify had best sellers, what they wrote. It goes to promise more. And he creates in fact, the first utopia in Europe and it is a place which he sets in the new world and he puts it there because that's what he did read your kids with an idea of what a Galatarian society is because it imagines that it's existing in a new world. That's very important. And then when Europeans begin to settle here and then he got birthday briefing up with him and we see here, some of the seeds of what later becomes the idea of what surrounds the United States. The second time that we learned from Indian experience and then there are others. But the second important time in terms of the United States is when we are crafting the art Federation. And then after that United States constitution and a number of the important practice of that those documents upon which this nation is founded took their image of how governance should operate from the Iroquois Confederacy and some other Confederate Confederacy's of the Appalachia Indians. And you can trace it to the notions of governance from from what they saw the Indians, doing what they were learning about how we were making a multiplicity of tribes into one nation as they required. They adopted that model and making one nation out of 13 comma. So I suggest to that twice before in history we have taken the Indians as models and they have food use practically what we have in this country. And I don't see why we can't.\r\n\r\n- Luis, did you want to comment on that?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Keep talking about a European model. Are we talking about? Yes.\r\n\r\n- It's fair to question the Greco Roman Judeo-Christian Western European scientific worldview into which we must indeed inject capitalism which has been strongly associated by max vapor with Christianity and the Protestant ethic, patriarchy and subsumed under the Christian and Roman aspects of it. It's, definitely in there. Yeah\r\n\r\n- But there's an anachronism that I trust you with. Also with quest,\r\n\r\n- We have time for one more question\r\n\r\n- Right? It was just more of a statement. I was to stay in there by saying I read clarity but I think it's very important that the patriarch would be named, because I think we're in a new point in history that has never ever been before in the Western civilization which is that women are now coming forward as a voice. Now I think unfortunately, a lot of women have bought into the figure of the model, but some of what's happening. And I think we're a force to be reckoned with. Yeah. We're part of the wild carpets before.\r\n\r\n- In the American historical literature. It's Pocahontas, Malinchak SOCAN, Julia it's women who have European men who become the heroines of American history and the Tecumseh's and the Pontiacs are the lawyers, the destroyers nobody ever really diminishes who is the founder of the league of the, or boy and their traditions. And if we talk about George Washington as a hero in American society I think we ought to talk about digging the Elida and acknowledge not only his contributions to the model of Confederacy that the founding fathers, the staff use but his legitimacy as a leader and an innovator in the Iroquois society as well.\r\n\r\n- Jesus Christ, the center of worship. By far\r\n\r\n- On her note, we will end by biting weight, by the way I want to say there are also moments in which the native Americans learn very efficient. It's one of the other PMs, there is a lot of discussion on what was the main military Institute finding the main factor on the part of the, of the Europeans. I subscribe to the view that it was because it was the host that was extremely important in the conquest of America, eat where the other continents and the Bravia Indians and the Indians of Deepak at least survive for three centuries because they were able to learn how to use before and to be in even superior filers. Then the Europeans, they find that that came to them also, but their destruction on the part of the us Republic and the part of Tinian Republic was in the second part of the 19th century. And they were able to receive so long because they managed to incorporate the forest to their way of four or five. It's not, it's fine\r\n\r\n- To reiterate a final point also is that in some ways we've been talking about Indians as these wonderful mystical romanticized people. And there are still Indians here. They're Indian communities in Iowa they're Indian reservations throughout the country and there's still a kind of cultural exchange that is going on. So please do not go away with the idea that Indians have provided the models and then quietly disappeared. Cause they're still out there and they're still fighting for survival.\r\n\r\n- So there may be resources even among us, maybe even in the gurge quest.\r\n\r\n- Gurge quest,\r\n\r\n- Greco-Roman Judeo-Christian Western seismograph, patriarchal, racist, capitalist terrible myth that we all inherit. I'd like to end on a more personal note though. I started this conference series nine years ago with the intent of looking at some rather complex questions in religious ethics. And I think no installment has brought us the kind of speakers that we have on the podium here with us tonight. You're all very lucky whether you recognize it or not. With the, these poor people, all of whom are national and international scholar celebrities in the scholarly world. And what they've been doing is talking about myths or worldviews which are very complex things to understand a worldview of a people or a myth like the Columbus myth takes skills and ethics. Peter brings and skills and history such as Kirk, Patrick, and Lewis spring skills and anthropology and sociology such as Clara Sue Kidwell brings in everything which points out not only how difficult this task is, but how absolutely essential it is to understand ourselves people in religious studies for a long time have thought that these kinds of questions are the kinds of questions that must be addressed in a liberal arts university. You can't understand the humanities. If you can't understand yourself and you can't understand yourself or your culture if you don't think about these large myths, what they are how they've affected you and what you want to do about them. I don't know whether this will be the last installment of the religious ethics conference or not. It may be. And if it is, I mourn for the students of Iowa state who will have to do without it in the future what I'd like you to join me in thanking these scholars for the excellent presentations that I've given the last two days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42898/file/115497#t=0.0,2476.8"}]}]}]}