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We can perhaps begin. This is a panel on China, a second part. We have some new faces, except for mine, on the panel. We have former members of the last month's panel in the audience to provide us, perhaps, with some additional background. We are going to allow each of the panelists someplace between five, seven, maybe 10 minutes to make a few remarks and then go back through the panel one more time to see if anybody has any responses to what other people have said in the panel, if they haven't included it in their remarks and then we'll open it up for general discussion from the audience, which we may or may not, if you have questions, we may or may not be able to enlighten you or if you have a commentary that will be welcome as well. My name is Adrian Bennett and I'm in the History Department. I teach Chinese and Japanese history here. To my left is Professor John Wong, Chairman of the Marketing Department in the Business College. To my immediate right is Ga Sho Jao, who's in sociology, and to my furthest right is Wa Yi Ma. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the wrong list, yes. Jinke Tang. He was on the panel last week. I don't know, I'm not paying attention here, last time. So we have two repeats and two new faces here. I'm sorry, I wasn't, looking at my notes and not looking at the faces. I will begin and then we will move to my right and then back to Professor Wong at the end and I will try to monitor us so we keep on track so we have some time for questions and comments. I would like to make two basic statements here, one revolving around the issue of the crisis in China in terms of the old guard versus the new, younger generation that is clearly wanting a different approach to life, to the organization of society. And the other point I wanna talk about is, I wanna make a few remarks about the sanctions issue that the United States is debating with the Congress coming up with a whole list of sanctions, as opposed to President Bush's more go slow or more moderate approach. I concluded my remarks last time by saying that in the long run I was optimistic, that things will change in China for the better and I still hold on to that, but I will have to also say that for the short run things do not look good and things are getting worse in the sense of the controls that are coming down, not only in terms of the repression and the rounding up of the dissidents, or the so-called dissidents from the establishment's perspective, but the roundup has been, I think, hushed up considerably. We have not heard of any executions and we hear very few now about even the finding of the more people on the 21 most wanted list and we don't know how many more arrests are going on. They basically silenced the press on this. So, we don't really know what's happening here. So that the repression and the thought control mechanisms are going back into the process that we saw in the cultural revolution. That is, political study is becoming very important for either to come to the United States to study and also to begin to re-educate the youth in Marxist, Leninist thought is also being re-instituted and the liberal bourgeois liberalism is being very quickly attacked on all fronts. In fact, the latest issue, today's issue of The Christian Science Monitor has a long article about this very point, the kind of control it's coming to. Nevertheless, I still remain optimistic. This is the last stand of an old generation. I believe the younger youthful generation is impatient. I think the cards are stacked in their favor and I think we've seen in this April, May, June demonstration in China, several major changes that will make for a different situation. For example, this movement was a very popular movement and it was also very widespread. It was not just in Tiananmen Square, it was not just in Shanghai, it was in many areas of China and Marcus Stanley who was in Seon during the incident and he's in the audience today has just come back, can perhaps later add some remarks to this that demonstrate or give an example of how how much support there was for this movement in smaller areas in China off, more or less off the main track, to some extent. But this movement did connect groups together. For example, students in Tiananmen Square demanding that the press to tell the truth were joined the next day by journalists with slogans that they want to tell the truth. So immediately there was identification here of the different groups rallying together. Another area is I think that the press, as we know now and we saw if you watch Nightline, and that sort of thing on late-night television during the week before and the week after, the press was very open for about a week and was very sympathetic after May, or during May, to the demonstrations. In fact, even after Li Peng declared martial law The People's Daily, which is the official voice of the Chinese Communist Party, carried news of the demands for Li Peng's resignation, which was completely out of context of what they would normally report in the news. So there was a great deal of openness here and journalists were allowed for a brief moment of time to explore issues on a, sort of using Deng Xiaoping's famous quote, to seek truth from facts, and went the whole hog with it and tasted, in a sense, what journalism is all about. The other area is the fact that I think the intellectuals of China have organized themselves, or at least they did, for the first time in a massive demonstration. That was the first time the intellectuals had really directly confronted the party and the establishment and they basically responded to the various threats to them by refusing to bow, basically using the slogan, the more you repress us, the more we will peacefully oppose you. There were three petitions circulated, for example, in China protesting the imprisonment of various figures from earlier movements. The first two petitions failed miserably, did not achieve anything, did not free anybody, except that the government came down with very heavy warnings to this group that they did not want to see this happen again. The third petition within 24 hours was circulated and signed and sent back to the government and this time it had 43 signatures, one more than the other two petitions had, with a very direct message that you do this, we'll just add on one more person to our list. Again, directly challenging authority. I don't know how far you can go with that kind of thing but there was this, and I think you can see it in the student marches, Every time the students marched, the government would come down. They could make an evening statement. The next day there would be 10,000 more students in the square. Every time harsher penalties came, more people rallied to the cause. And of course, I think the underlying thing about, that one can, I suppose, hope for change is, is that China's problems are incredibly complex at this moment, both economically, mainly economically, both in the rural areas and in the urban areas. The corruption issue is still outrageous in China. The inflation rate is at 20, 30, and some places 40%. The desire for political freedom has been whetted by the economic reforms. The government wants to continue the economic reforms. They do not want to have any more Western bourgeois liberal thoughts come in with those reforms. But it's very difficult, as we know, to separate technology from value or value from technology. The Chinese think they can do it. They insist upon it. Westerners have been bringing in this information. The Chinese have been craving this information, that the knowledge, the technology, the managerial skills, and it's not going to be very easy to separate these two things out. Nevertheless, the Chinese want it, and that's their latest. They tell us that business is normal in China, business is going on as usual, please come and trade but don't bring any of your bourgeois liberal ideas with you. And, it's very difficult, I think, for Westerners to sort of nicely leave that in Tokyo or Hong Kong or someplace when they come through the gates of China. So, the problems of China that stimulated most of these reforms are continuing and they're getting worse. And, if you wanna look at some newspaper clippings, say from the Asian Wall Street Journal, you can see all the issues coming up in the agricultural area where peasants have been getting paid IOUs from last fall, are getting paid again the IOUs this fall. That's not gonna along very far before the peasants begin to want some cash or they refuse to grow the grain, I'm sorry, or grow the grain and sell it on the black market rather than to sell it to the state for an IOU, which is gonna create havoc since the government desperately needs the grain to feed the people in the cities. Now, the other point I wanted to make, and I'll just do this very quickly, is on the sanction issue and I think my view at this point is that, and maybe Professor Wong will say more about this, is that the sanctions really, the stuff that's been voted in both the Senate and the House, are really going, if they actually went into effect, will really harm the overall situation because the Chinese, for one thing, can blame the United States for any economic consequences that occur in China, can blame it not on themselves for their own economic decisions but blame it on the United States. We become the scapegoat. People who can unify the people around that issue forget about the reforms, forget about the corruption. You have an enemy out there in the United States and look what they've done to us. They have created all these things for us and now everybody has to bite the bullet and you can rally people around that issue and we know what the propaganda machine can do in China. If they can pretend that June 3rd didn't happen, then they can easily paint the United States into a very hard corner to get out of. So, I think the sanction issue is a very difficult one for us to negotiate. And I think Bush, I'm amazed at myself here, but I think Bush is right here that the go-slow attitude is much more appropriate. The other point that I would like to add here is that unilateral moves by the United States, as I've suggested, will be detrimental to the U.S position vis-a-vis China and the U.S policy, I think, needs to reflect the fact that economic change and global interdependence have power in China, the kind of changes and reform issues, the demands for political and social progress in China and it doesn't really make any sense to turn off these engines of change and then expect China to have political reform, which is what we're trying to do here. We're trying to force them to make some changes by putting down all kinds of economic sanctions. And yet, it's the economic context, the context, the trade relationships. Those are the things that actually have powered this change mechanism drive and now we wanna say cut all that off. Well, it puts China right back where they were before and we don't have any, there is no avenue of pushing new ideas into China. And also China, I think, is creating its own sanctions by the various statements, such as the one about the Western businessmen must separate their values from the techniques that they're bringing in and also the new party secretary argued very recently that China must reverse widening disparities of wealth by quote, strengthening the authority, the functions and regulations of the government through legal administrative and economic means, end quote. That kind of remark does not sit well with the foreign business community. I think the foreign business community already recognizes China is a high risk area. They already are backing out. Professor Wong could probably say more about this as well. They are doing their own sanctions just because they're not gonna get any profits out of this. They're likely to lose their shirts. Nobody knows how far this purge is gonna go in China, how long it will last. It's a very unstable situation. Why put your money into it and hoping to make a few bucks? There are other countries that can provide you with similar perhaps opportunities. Well, let me stop with that and we'll turn it over here to Mr. Ga and he can talk for a few minutes.\r\n\r\n- In order to discuss the future of China, I've had to go back to trace some of the reasons of the students' demonstrations and I think there are several levels at an international level. The opening up of China to the outside world for the 10 years has give Chinese the opportunity to see the striking difference between the East and the West in terms of the standard of living. And, also the mass media getting China also let Chinese know there's the general communist crisis in the whole world, especially in Eastern European reforms and the Soviet Union political reform. And also, the relaxations of the confrontation between mainland China and Taiwan brought lots of Taiwanese back to mainland and also give the Chinese the opportunity to see the difference between the different systems between Taiwan and mainland China. Also, domestically the economic reforms, just Professor Bennett talked about the economic reform before 1984 the economic reform was proceeded. We've seen the political framework, the existing political framework that is the Soviet style, centralized planning economy, however after 1984, there's lots of problems emerge because of the existing political framework in China cannot keep up with the economic reform. So, there should be some of the political reform to compliment the economic reform. So, in the last year there's lots of different proposals for the economic reform but the government, even they open up the discussion of political reform. However, they didn't set any agendas of political reforms for the existing political system. Then, last year when I went back to China, there's lots of different proposals for the economic reform. The reformers argued that since 10 years of economic reform, the Chinese economic system get lots of differentiations and diversity. So, the economy moved toward to the powerless kind of system. However, in the political arena, there's even, no any change to cope with the fast changing economic situation. So that is the main reason why there's a great debate among the intellectuals to discuss about political reform. Also, they use the intellectuals, because of the high pressures from government not allow the intellect to discuss directly on the political problem. So, they use kind of a wrong strategy to discuss the Chinese culture. So during 1986, 1987, 1988, there's a very hot debate on the Chinese culture. Some of the extreme advocate positions that to the wholesale Westernization but on the other extreme, there's a group of people we can label leftist. They discuss, they argue their positions that they will uphold the four cardinal principle. That is, a principle of adherence to the Socialists around communist party leaders and monks and their learnings were in a monastery and so on, and the proletarian dictatorship. So there's two extreme positions had a very hot debate. Also some intellectuals discussed even going even further to discuss that whole China's culture should be changed. So under this circumstance, some of the intellectuals argued that the economic reform, since there is a quick inflation rate and great government corruptions, they argued that the economic reform cannot go any further without a political reform. That's why they advocate the political reform. That's also the background of the students' demonstration. Also, there are some immediate reasons on the China's campuses. I think the Chinese campuses are most sensitive focus of the Chinese students democratic expectation. Since the students was most moveable part in China, in China, everyone got a work unit, you cannot move freely because they're are not allowed by the government to move freely. So, the students was a part, which not attached to any work unit. So they are less dependent on the government. That's why the students have become the vanguard of these demonstrations. It's not to say that workers, peasants, didn't agree with the students' position. It's only because the workers and peasants are more dependent on their work unit so they are not in a advantageous position to join demonstration in the first stage. After discussing the reasons of the students' demonstration, I'll say a few words about future of China. I think in the immediate future there, the situation will be worsening since the recent newspapers and all the information we got signal that the Chinese government, especially the top leadership, was trying to go back to the kind of model, even model of the cultural revolution. Now they try to indoctrinate their Marxist-Leninist-Maoism thought and every work unit almost, they have a political study every afternoon and ask for everyone to show their support to the government crackdown of students' demonstrations. And yesterday, I received a letter from my brother, who's an associate professor in Beijing University. He said, now the intellectuals just, they avoid talking about anything sensitive, avoid talking about anything which involved the politics and the intellectuals, especially some very well known intellectual was arrested and students was called back to the universities and ask they show their support. If they didn't show their support, the government will not even assign a job for them, for especially the students who was graduating. So, all the situations shows that the Chinese government tries to go back to the model of the cultural revolution in terms of the political reforms. So the question should be raised is, how about the economics? I think if they didn't have any political reform, the economy, even before the students demonstration, already reached the impasse. Even last year, the different proposals, for example, like the responsibility system, like even the shareholder systems, if there is no any political reforms, the economic performance cannot go any further. Like just Edwin mentioned that you cannot separate the technology from the values and also you cannot separate the economic spheres from the political sphere. So my argument is that, without any further political reform in China, we're doomed. to go back to the Stalinist style of the communist rule and also Xi Jinping's speech signaled that positions, Xi Jinping, in his speech, before the massacre he stated that, this demonstration was reflections of the whole environment and the small niche of small environment in China. What he was talking about, the old environment, is that he will say that Eastern Europe and Soviet Union was go-to kind of revisionist of the Marxist. So, he was trying to withstand all the pressures and then trying to just hold back China firmly in their positions of upholding what he called Marxism.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Mr. Tong.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I just wanna say a few words. What I now most fear about is the truth coming out of China. As we know that, about a month ago, we know the truth and we know the government were lying, but now we don't have the source that can report the truth. All the information that we get now are from the government, which is really kind of worrying me, because first, we don't know if, I believe the government lying now. All the information we are getting is the lies. If our thinking and our judgment are based on these lies, it can be to us as very dangerous interaction. And, personally, I don't think, I don't know if there's any solution to this. This worries me very much. Let me tell you something that I just heard yesterday. She, this is from a faculty member. She's a faculty member in one of the university in Beijing and she's in charge of the one of the class which is supposed to graduate this May. And, she told a friend and her friend is not here to ask. That's how the story and she said, all the class are called back to the university because they have to graduate. This is the class, the senior class. They have to graduate because the situation, a month, two month ago, it was tumultuous. And, when the students are called back, those whose name are on the black list, who are the backbone, I wanna say in Chinese, who are the real, the leaders, are warranted arrest immediately and there's some others who are the activists during the student movement, they have to wait until, they were not issued a diploma or issued a job until their, I'll quote, problem, are cleared. That means they have to report to government all their activities, to confess, to have other witnesses to say they are not a serious ordinance, whatever, to the student demonstrator. Then, only after that they can issue the diploma and a job because, you know, in China the students are issued a job. They are given a job and if the government don't give them, they don't have a job. And, for those students who didn't participate in demonstrating, they also have to write a report to show their loyalty to the government's action to suppress the demonstration in China. This is just a one example. Another, I think most of you have already seen from the news yesterday. Also, Shanga just mentioned that the government is now trying to have another propaganda movement. They said that the Marxism education of classroom is the top priority of the education. And, you can see the situation is still not improving and it's still going to the bad direction, still going to the extremes. Let me just tell another news that a friend, a student here at Iowa State, his passport is supposed to terminate. He needs a passport extension, and this is a new, maybe many of our Chinese students don't know this news, and then he called Chinese counselor in Chicago and that they say that two months ago they start to extend our passport, only before they can extend our passport for at least two years. But now they said, you, we, our students have to have our units or our school back in China, the unit's permission. Even after they have the permission, they can choose, can't have their passport extended. So, you can see the student here in the U.S. are facing quite a pressure because if you don't have a passport extended, it's really a pressure putting on our student. As to just talking about this safety of a student, I just wanted maybe, because the media coverage is very little. Now the news, there's things going on in the U.S., as you may, I think, some of you already know that the Senate and the House have already, actually Senate has already passed a bill, which proposed a stronger, harsher economic sanction towards the Chinese government. And, together with this bill, there's also some more consideration about the safety of students in the U.S. and I've heard that the Senate passed a bill that said that will extend, extend to, deferring departure to, from one year to four years and I think many of us really appreciate this action. It is believed that on this Thursday, July the 20th, the House will pass a similar bill, the so-called Nancy Pelosi bill, and which also will be try to waive the two years requirement, home country residents' requirements, for those who are holding J1 visas and this, I think, this actually really welcomed by the Chinese students here studying at Iowa State and all over the U.S. I believe they still will be passed on this House and it will sent to the joint of United States of both Senate and the House to the President Bush and I hope that President Bush will not veto this and to and to sign this bill. Let me just give my response to what I just, Dr. Bennett just said about economic sanctions. I have to say that I have a very condensed feeling about it and at the same time, one thing is as just Dr. Bennett said, open door is very essential to the reform to the future of China. And, if you close the door, if everyone, you know, close the economic door, then you are closing the political door. You are taking the Chinese back to the 20 years ago. But on the other hand, what I believe now is that Chinese government now is not there to, they are not willing to go back to that kind of Imperial time and yeah, they are still the same. They want the economic reform. So I don't see, I do not see the danger and if you ask all the Western countries actually, most states into economic sanctions, the Chinese will really go back to there. It will only put more pressure on the Chinese government. And, I think I meant that . It will put pressure on the government but it will not impose the danger that most of us fear but which will close the door of China to the open and to the outside world. So, I personally support the economic sanctions at this point. So, in that sense, I will also welcome the Senate to voting on the harsher economic sanction.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Professor Wong, who has eight levels of notes here.\r\n\r\n- As I was listening to the thoughts of the other panel members, I thought rather than repeating some of the issues already covered, I would relate some of the, not go over some of the comments that I have prepared but share at a slightly different level. There are different responses to this business in China. I'm not a expert on political science. I'm no expert on Chinese affairs but I responded personally when I was there in Beijing, the crisis, but before I even go any further, I'd like to express my appreciation for many of you gathering here, those who called my wife at home and gave us support when I was caught up in the events in Beijing and Ann was much comforted by the fact that many of you care. A little bit of a fun fact about my time and what I saw and also some of my reflections since I returned. I organized a group of faculty and business executives in Iowa to conduct a series of workshops in China with the idea of AU returns, government officials as well as managers of quasi business and quasi governmental commercial enterprises to do business with Americans, just as I conduct workshops in the States, teaching American executives how to conduct business in China. It was brought to my attention that perhaps we should do a business workshop in China to help Chinese officials know what to do with this economic state now. And, so last July I was in China conducting a series of lectures as well as preparing the ground work for the workshop series this year. And, we left Aims on the last week of May and had spent a week in Hon jo, Central, East Central China. We had about 120-some people. Most of them were government officials, as well as a business executives who were attending the workshops and we kept up with this inclusion in Beijing and we wanted to make sure that it was safe to go out to Beijing and we read in the papers, as well as reading through the contacts in Beijing that things were calming down. That, in fact, on the Tuesday, before the massacre on Sunday that most of the students had really left the square. They had an informal agreement with the government and both sides were trying to save face. Students were to return to the campuses and the government was to drop charges and so on. And so, there was quite, I think, unexpected turn of events, at least in form of Chinese in China, as we had known at that point. So we proceeded to Beijing on Saturday, June the third, and when we arrived at Beijing we were told by our contacts that things had suddenly taken a rather ominous change. Three students were run over by a military truck in the early morning hours of June the third and the students who insisted on the internment of the bodies could perform the rights and mourning and so on and the campuses would deny the request. And so, from the remnants of about 3,000 students, the square was, again, flooded by literally tens of thousands of students as well as others, of course, during the late morning and early afternoon. When we were in Beijing, I decided that it would be a good opportunity to visit some student leaders, having collected some money among family and friends here in their names. I caught a cab and went off to Tiananmen Square on the afternoon of June, the third, Saturday, arriving at the square with some friends about four o'clock and it was impossible to get into the square. We were about a mile and a half on the Tiananmen Avenue, west of the square, and which Ms. Stanley was in this side of as well as the students and the residents. We were unable to get close to the square, simply because of this mass of people. I took pictures of the demonstrations as well as there were buses that were carrying military personnel dressed in civilian clothes. I got close enough to hear the arguments with people, the students, and the military personnel. In fact, there were down maybe four blocks, military buses away and students of military equipment, of guns and ammunition and so on and things were getting pretty ugly and by 6:30, our guide decided that, you know, it was time to leave because more and more people were fighting in the square as a result of working and it was getting dark. And so, I attended the banquet that was held in our honor at the Friendship Hotel. Fortunately, you know, we scheduled most of the meetings at the CUN Hotel about five and a half, six miles west of the square, northwest of the square and quite a few of our meetings at the Friendship Hotel, and at the universities. And, after the banquet ended, I tried to catch a cab to go back to the square. I heard the go by a few of the cab drivers that things were very nasty in the evening and that I should stay in the hotel and for my own safety and for that particular advice, I'm grateful. Otherwise, I would be another statistic in the events that followed. News black out was put into place that evening and something that happened to be on TV, I was told by my friends who stayed with us that they were carrying something that they hadn't seen for a while. The whole night long, the military command was making announcements, advising people to stay indoors, not to get out, not to get involved with the demonstrations, or anti-government activities. Otherwise, if things got out of hand, the government will not be responsible. And, the feeling that things could take a negative spill. As a result, of a couple of cars, I had to arranged for transportation to take some of my American colleagues to go out in and another group to go golfing. I called one of the friends of mine who worked at the university and was in charge of the transportation, had lined up the cars, and he confirmed that the drivers were leaving for us this morning but I was told at 11 o'clock in the evening that all of our times was heading towards the square and that so frontwards of military and troops and army and so I promptly called Ann and told her that in case of things turning nasty, for her to my phone quite far from the square and that we are safe in a safe location and if things could work out, we would leave Beijing as soon as we could get tickets out. And so, Ann had went and filed an application. 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Cellular and rich blood implications is very typical when the authorities are being challenged for any reason. And so it's one thing to read about it in history books, it's another thing to witness the events that happened. I talked to the students who were came from the Square on Sunday during the fall morning. There were students mainly in that Beijing University and majoring down in the university. Beijing, you know, Beijing was a very interesting city. It's excellent. It was very crowded but very broad road blocks in major thorough faced through the city. And the streets where quite barren of people in the morning but by nine o'clock when, you know, really a volume was coming down from the southern side of the city. I saw people literally rushing out the buildings, and within about 10 minutes, there must be about 50 to 60,000 people just around me, landing in the streets, and what we saw was students returning from The Square, those who survived in Mexico. And the students were bloody, they were battered, they were still defying. They were shouting slogans, you know, \"Down with the government, down with the regime\", and so on. And they would take it and they were showing off casings of machine gun bullets and some to those were about as long as this pen. Fairly, about 10 to 11 inch long bullet cases. And they related how the massacre had taken place and the atmosphere was just one in which, they sort of had this quiet, I felt, talk inside just seeing the students of spite of the experiences they have had. They did discipline the students which absolutely impressed me. All the major public buildings in Beijing during the week were draped up as a presence of the communist party, and there are two big vans in front of a hotel. And I saw the students coming in and I had run down the street and I ran back to the hotel, like, to manage it. As the students are coming back, I said, \"You know, the best thing is to have our phones, \"we keep the belonging, and send them back to their rooms.\" And expect something to happened. The students came out to the hotel and a riot could easily had erupted at that point. They were emotional and I saw here the signs, the banners praising the communist party. And that was an open act of, that was almost a declaration of war as far as the students were concerned. Rather than rioting, they sent a demolition of three students to talk to the manager, and only one of those to have the banners taken down. And they put the banners down in the night, they sing some patriotic songs, gave speeches, and marched back to the university in go inside. In retreat but bloody, survivors from Mexico, and this kind of sort of display absolutely impressive. And so the next day or so, I went to visit some of the students at the university, talked to new students and they're still very defying. And the faculty members also were very active but typically the faculty member who were very active were very worried. They said that it's time to engage in what they called the second phase of the struggle and that is what was going down. And if you notice, most of China is very political on the ground but with the social control mechanisms they have, and also what pays a price are the fact that a number of the businesses had been able to go on the ground and finally emerged in Hong Kong. I merged with one of them, I used a worker who had come out through Hong Kong the day after I left. But I knew that he was coming out, a couple of people of the Chinese University of Hong Kong. And the underground was very active and that it had means of prosperity throughout China. And that itself really affects me because the depth, as well as the basicness with which the dissatisfaction with the government had been expressed, not just in demonstrations, but in remote villages. You know, people who were aware of what was happening and they were generally sympathetic. Just a couple of real quick comments and responding to comments made by anyone, even participants, particularly who does the sanctions. I'm not quite sure how you would look at the way President Bush has handled this situation. I think he's, particularly, you know, I think he stuck his neck out more than most people would appreciate it. The fact that he sheltered some of these at the American Embassy is absolutely a fun to think personally, as well as for the Chinese government. And the fact that his longest fundraiser is killing the embassy is absolutely in no way in which the U.S. government and Chinese government could have any means of communicating or approaching at this point. And it has been suggested that we have some amicable solutions to work out to help families to leave Beijing for a third country rather than come up to the states and things still being worked out. And so it's, you know, Goldstone's cautious policy with the guys of China, I think at least at this point is probably the best one. Quite often, I think in the States particularly, and in the west in general, we swing from extremes. You know, including myself. And I know this is Chinese, third generation in Malaysia removed from China. And for us to try to understand China as outsiders looking in it's almost, paraphrasing the scripture, look through a glass building. You do not quite fully understand. We swim from, you know, from one end of the pendulum to the other. We swing from extremes to extreme. Of the president for the past five, six years, and we put him on a pedestal. A long standing defendant he had accomplished a lot in terms of economic reforms and I, you know, give him a lot of credit. But in facts, it really is that China is not as pure a society as we romantically think China would be. And perhaps for bonding, China will not be, I think, it will not be. And so the idea of even democracy, western style of being politicalists in China is really far removed from my mind. And even from among students and faculty and business, as well as government officials that are from China. I don't, not quite grasp whether they fully understand democracy is we've been talking about democracy over here. A democracy is used in Chinese almost as a buzzword for a conglomerate of feelings, frustrations, the standard questions of help, not the democracy in terms of the political process we understand over here. Political democracy is the same as we going into inflation. That's got nothing to do with democracy. They want their new jobs, that has nothing to do with democracy. And so I'm not quite sure whether the democracy chant at Western Star would be transplanted or implanted in China in the near future. A major argument which is a good one I think, are the part of the reforms of both sides of the spectrum. Both in job affection as well as the deeper affections simple as this. That some of the major economic successes we've seen in recent years have taken place in countries where there was not quote on quote domestic type of freedom. Look at South Korea, South Korea achieved most of it's major economic successes under a very oppressive regime under Park and General Chung. Very successful. And similarly too in Taiwan. We should also similarly experience the white terror in India in the late 40s, early 50s. And so and also in Chile. And so arguments that simply exist is that perhaps western style democracy might not necessarily be a constant linkage to economic development. And I tend to find that. And at the same time, I think, you know, we should not underestimate the importance or impact of commercial products with China. China could very easily retreat back to it's shell like it did for 21 years, you know, between '49 and '71. And could carry on very much self sufficient in its own. Notwithstanding what will happen to the citizens. In dealing with people who are so ideologically inclined, they really do not care. The economic impact of western favored China is such that the, I think, it's perhaps one of the best hopes for China in the future. Over here, we need to slow our old ideological prodding but not, you know, expecting Americans to help in China's progressive political reform in terms of where you would hope they would help. And just let me give you an example, like one of our western business educators I found in the Capitol of Shanxi, two/three years ago, and I came and asked her, my one question was, and I asked her enough of what will happen to Hong Kong after 1997 when Hong Kong is returned to Chinese rule? They turned the tables around to me and said, you know, what would happen to us in Hong Kong is we couple up with China. And from their own analysis and there's evidence to indicate that this is true. The impact of the, even prior to 1997, credibly, they talking about in '79. The impact of Taiwan in Hong Kong on China is such that the implements in China is closed by the Shandong and the Sichuan Valley Provinces really feel that they have now under colonial rule from London, Fujian, and Hong Kong, and Taiwan. The economic impact on the coastal provinces in South China in particular. Unrest in China is incredible. They have brain drain from all over China. The best of the best are flooding to special economic zones to a couple of the cities for the trade with best and so on. And what we have right now begin to see really is the bipolar development channel where the coastal cities and coastal provinces are so advanced and then the other ones are really left neglected. And consequently, you know, what we see is a political struggle in Beijing. It's also a political struggle of those affections who are sending the quote unquote, exploited provinces within the influence of China, and the progressive atlas and the the urban and industrialized coastal provinces and cities. So, this fun will continue. I'm not a political analyst or a political scientist, but I venture to say this, not understanding what impressive actions taken by the current regime over the weekend of June the 3rd and 4th, I'm quite convinced that the leap of this infection would not want to change the directions in terms economy and political reforms that China has embodied. I think what has changed is it's the speed with which change is taking place. China was really really the one with a great development speed for the past five years. And even from those of us who have some understanding of what was happening in China, we cannot sustain that level of growth that it has been gaining. All of the easy work with Benghazi, the economic reform that it accomplished. The development of the agriculture sector with a quick success. And then, you know, the embarking of other reforms is a tough one but we because we know of a much larger populace. It was involving a much more complicated set of economic and political balance involved. It has answered to this very quick. So, I'm quite convinced that hopefully on a number of points that things is not as bleak as it seems. You know, obviously I'm not really, obviously, you know, I'm responding in the span of particularly the dark hours when I was in Beijing. But at the same time I'm optimistic over the affect of the depth with which the quote unquote developments are taking place. I was just visiting with a modest family, in fact it was Shaanxi Providence in their remote villages. Citizens were provided financial support to the students in Beijing. And how long can big brother impose it's propaganda on the Chilean people? Sure, I mean, they banned the party, right, for now. But that doesn't mean, you know, that they accept the ability of repressed society. Mildly infused depending on if it erupts the next time, that it wouldn't be very long that it's going to be a lot less peaceful then the way students have conducted it the last time around. I think government should be a lot more realistic and he understands that economic reform is a two edged sword. We cannot economic reform without political reasoning. And so these plans to not tend to exploit them is something which the Chinese leadership has not been quite willing to accept. The facts is this, you know, Russia is trying, the Soviet Union is trying to provide a lot of flexibility in dealing with the question of trying to overhaul a really archaic economic system that does not work. And so in China, they have tried to free up the economic side but the political side of the equation has not been dealt with. It has not been thought through, I think, very carefully. And so when we see the consequences of another reform, I'm optimistic simply because of the fact that regimes are bowling down. We just can't put it back in anymore. The people can not be fooled. They can be caught but they are not fooled. And the fact simple is that when we have instantaneous communications, they know what's happening. And so I agree with the other panelists that having one be communists is probably not the most productive way in dealing with China. Sure, we can work around it a bit to a state, but in the long is this the best decision?\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. We seem to have a run on and on up here. It's after one o'clock according to the clock on the wall, you've been very patient. And then very few of you walked out. I suppose, at this point, we should open up for some questions, although we are into, I don't know what happens in this place after one o'clock but anyway, yeah . We can certainly take a couple of questions from the floor. If we may. Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- The western media has been giving an outcry of downfall of socialism and communism. And I was wondering whether the helm of bests with the reforms that we were leading to earlier in the statement.\r\n\r\n- The question is that the western press has been reporting the imminent downfall of socialism and communism. And whether what we see happening in China is part of that picture. Well, certainly I'll go first here. But the economic reforms that was there, that was the basis for the economic reforms going on in China where changing China's socialism to something else, to market socialism, to socialism with a Chinese character. Various other terms. The point is, is that in the in the Eastern Europe and then Soviet Union these reforms had, certainly the political reforms had changed the political context and the economic reforms are slow in coming. But they've been working on the political reforms. In China they did the economic reforms from 1978, and everybody was hooping up and jumping up and down because China was so excited because the growth rate was eight/10% a year and that sort of thing. And therefore we can see market economies, individual entrepreneurs developing. And therefore we could see that from our analysis that Marxism clearly was not the answer and that capitalism was the way to go. Now with China's repression occurring, it seems to me that as I was arguing before, I think that this is sort of the last stand of the old school, in a sense, trying to maintain the Stalinist model, the central command structure. And that that will be something that in the long run I think is going to fade. As the economic reforms are a, the China desperately needs to maintain this economic reform. They have $35 billion worth of debt they gotta pay off in the next decade and they have to pay it off with hard currency. And the hard currency comes from these joint ventures from the tourist. The tourist straight in China, of course, is not dead, but the hotels are running at 30% occupancy, when they've been running 90%. I mean, that's one form of foreign exchange. And all the Hong Kong businessmen apparently are looking at other places to put their money. China has to have the, they desperately need this technology. They need the seminars that Professor Wong has been providing them to be able to carry on this economic reform. And though an economic reform is reform, it changes things. Now, whether it means the death of Marxism, I don't know because it depends on how you want, because the definition is always changing. The definition of socialism always changes. Marx had a definition of socialism. Lennon had a definition of socialism. Stalin had a definition. You know, Tito had one, Castro has one, everybody's got a different definition of what the hell the system is. And then every one has a slight variation because nationalism changes the context for this. And so you can always argue that it's socialism, it's socialism with Chinese characteristics. It isn't dead. It's different. But maybe it looks more to us now like it's socialism slash capitalism, but that's from our perspective, it's the same problem. We're looking through the mirror and we're looking at things and we see some familiar things. We see small-scale entrepreneurs doing business in China, apparently in a free market economy at some level. And we immediately run with that. And that this is, here we have capitalism running wild. And from that we will now see the death of socialism, but from the Chinese perspective, they're not going to argue that that's for sure. But they may argue, they have a different approach to it. So I would say that the obituary on Marxism has probably been written a little early, but again, it also comes down to the definition of what are we talking about when we talk about Marxism, Leninism, thought, or a Marxist, or a communist socialist system. After all, all these systems are socialists. None of them are communists in the terms of the utopian communist system. They're all on the route, road to communism, and they all have different routes. No one's ever been there before. It's a utopia. I mean, at the end of the road it's a utopia, and nobody's gotten there yet, and they're all trying to get it from different directions. I mean, we're trying to do something, we're trying to get to utopia too, I suppose. I mean, we have a lot of problems but- We don't mark it out with a big gold star, this is where we're going. We don't have a name for this. I mean, there's the great society and things like that out there, but-\r\n\r\n- I'm a member of Amnesty International and I've got a letter from them saying that we should send telegrams there in mass to China's government and try to somewhat botch this. So the question is then. Would anything that Bush would do, the economic sanctions, the business sanctions, the government benefit sanction. Did it any of that make any difference other then in the Chinese economy in terms of decisions, political decisions that the government makes until the time that comes that the gunshot king dies, there's a periscope and things change. The related question is this. The whole issue of, if you say to the student, the timing was on the side of the students, how is that going to work itself out politically after gunshot king dies and time is on their side. I'm thinking of the issue of secession because that was an issue with , who will seceded gunshot king?\r\n\r\n- Well-\r\n\r\n- What's to the advantage of the students in that secession?\r\n\r\n- I'm going to make a couple of comments and I got to run here. But all I can say is that this is a succession crisis what's going on right now, in a sense. I mean, that's really what we're, Deng Xiaoping has selected two successors and he's cashiered them both. And you know, and so now we're left with Lee Byung-Hun who is apparently the successor or some other, the new Party Secretary or Party Secretary Jung. But it's not clear what's going on, but this is a long-term transition where China has yet to figure out how to move the crown from one person to another without this kind of in-house fighting. But that's really in many ways what's been going on here.\r\n\r\n- And nothing that any westerner does including President Bush is going to make any different.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- This is entirely premature. And they will not be effected by any decisions that congress makes in terms of political secedes. Is that correct?\r\n\r\n- But at the same time though, I think the fact that communicating this past weekend, it is very important when we a united front of the leadership of the most profitable democracies, as well as the industrial policy, that this was not acceptable behavior. As I say, the last nation in 1989, that sends a very powerful message. But at the same time there's no, the broad impact of edges have been taken out. They know that it is not acceptable and that they need to back off in the countries repressive role. But at the same time, you know, the door is being left open for further communications as well. It's cooperation. I think, you know, just trying to ask the way China has been treated as a priority over the next 10 years, is not going help the situation either. I think it would essentially what will have . And so it's been difficult for us to accept what has happened without doing something about it. And I think you're right. Personally I feel there are some things you can do in this and some things you can't. And this might be a situation in which there's nothing else absolutely we can do about them. But perhaps we have the patience to wait it out.\r\n\r\n- Let me just add one thing. That's all. One thing that we can do is to prepare for the death of the regimes together, another political power like the student in the last one said there. So make it ready when Deng dies and we can have some, another voice to, you know, in that case to try to equate a more type of friendly system. Oh yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm finished.\r\n\r\n- I think what students demand is institutionalized systems of the politics in China. So they try to ensure that after the deaths Deng Xiaoping there will be the institutionalized system in China to ensure that no one can be the dictator. So I think of course the students was massacred but if they, if the win was the need, institutionalized means to ensure that China can go the democratic way, at least closest to that system. So I also, in response to, to that one's speech there is asked about the ambiguity of the democracy in the slogan, in the student's slogans. I think you you couldn't full comprehend the meaning of democracy in the demand of the students, unless you are the peoples in China. I think what they need is basic right, what you need is a basic right. At least the freedom of expression without being massacred. Yeah, I think this is what they need at at least some of the basic right in China was eliminated from the constitutions, from the rules of the parties, and also the party. What they want in China is no longer to be the one party or the paramount leading roles of the single party in China. I think this is what they demand. In terms of the difference, a crucial American economic sanctions we have in mind. I think of course it does make a difference. You can see from the Chinese newspaper in response to the, even the strength of the economic sanctions. On the one hand, they say, no one can defeat China. They go long way from the, since 1949, they can self dependence, they can self-rely. But on the other hand as I always say, the way we wish there's still foreign exchange, exchange relations going on. And, and we need the help from other countries. And the economic sanction. I could add that most of the economics exchange if we sanctioned China, doesn't hurt the China in general, except to their food export to China. Most of the imported goods or luxury goods in China, you can see along the term, along the Beijing Strait there's lots of Benz, lots of Toyotas, and lots of luxury goods in the market, lots of commodity, which is not affordable by the ordinary peasant or workers. So the economic sanction doesn't hurt the peasant, or the workers, the ordinary people too much, except to the food which just exported from Iowa. Like, agricultural goods does make some difference. But I think most of the economic sanctions doesn't the ordinary people, just hurts the corrupted government officials.\r\n\r\n- Give it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40533/file/112204#t=0.0,1805.53143"}]}]}]}