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And would you like to tell me a little bit about your background and where you grew up. I was. Born in Chattanooga Tennessee. And. Our blog. Started out that way when I was. 10 we moved to Minnesota. And. Then I came to the University of Chicago as an undergraduate and I. Stayed. In Chicago. For graduate work. In Chicago. And. Came out to Oregon as opposed back. And I've been here ever since. Starting. This supposed track and the chemistry division. I was. Put on the staff and soon. After. Three years. A staff scientist an assistant scientist. I was the only woman. On the staff at the time. And. I was told actually when I arrived. Or when I was put on the staff people tell me oh. We just don't have a woman. But they whoever they. Made her retire early. And. Actually just two days ago. I've heard about. This. Women the names. Gladys Swope I believe. And just two days ago. Someone gave me a newspaper article from The Chicago Tribune March 22nd 1959. And it actually. Has a. Discussion of women. At. Argonne. In 1959 and it. Talks about. Plays. So I finally emerged a little bit about her. And I can give you a copy. I can. Do. It. So I was here in the chemistry division as a. Lone woman. Staff member. And. Ultimately I was promoted to a. Scientist. And Senior Scientist. Along the way. The division. Did increase the number of women. And. What I did was. So I wasn't alone anymore. But. Also. Once I. Established myself. And was promoted to scientist. I decided it was time for me to do something for women that are dumb and. Inadvertently I did something for myself and I developed a network. Of. Women. Across the lab. There aren't so many. Women will haunt them either. And we started a career conference science careers in search of women. And it was initially started for college. Age women. The idea I had is when I was in. College I really didn't know that much about graduate school. What next. So. The conference is a. Big success. And. We didn't hold the next year. Or the year after we. Resurrected it and brought it in high school students in the second day. And ever since then it's been around for high school students every year who most completed. Had. The 15th. Conference. Earlier. This year. And it's been 20 years of success. With women. I'm not so involved anymore. I just thought. You just started it. Go to the luncheon meeting with students while I was involved for many years. In organizing. And I just. Don't have the time anymore. I think. I need. People should do it. And get more involved. So I've kind of rambled here. But. I've always. Said OK. Well I had to ask when you were growing up did you did your family expect you to go to college. I mean was that an expectation. I think probably an unstated. Expectation. I've been thinking about this a lot. Recently because I. As I mentioned I have to. Be. Giving a talk next week at the. American Chemical Society national meeting of women. To. This committee luncheon. And I've been thinking about. What influenced me to go into science. And. I think it was. An unstated. Expectation. Nevertheless. I don't think that. For example my father expecting that I would have a career. Although he didn't discourage me one way or the other and he was. Always. Encouraging me. To. Action that would be very interested in science. He's a very curious person. He is a ceramic engineer. And. He was very interested in minerals. We would go rock hunting all the time. He would wake me up always in the middle of the night see eclipses and things like that. So I think. He encouraged me in many ways but I don't I don't think he ever expected I would have a career. We never talked about it. And you mentioned your aunt. She. Is a physicist. I was an uncle lived in. Canada. And. When I was about nine we went to Canada. And. She. Was working in an observatory at the time and she arranged. That we would have a private viewing of the stars one evening. And. I remember and I can't I will say if there was a defining moment for me. That. Really treated me. It was seeing the rings of Saturn. Through a telescope. In. Disability. Hooked me up. And. She also encouraged me further when I went home she said. She said you books. And. I remember I was a little. Junior astronomer for a. Short period. She sent me books with experiments. And. It's amusing to me now to think I don't remember actually. With this book looking up at the stars which. I think you would. I remember. Looking at the ground. Throwing rocks and mud products. To simulate craters information and. Say you know something a junior astronomer was. Looking out. As you think it would be. But. She always encouraged me and then. When I was a graduate student well undergrad but also. In Chicago. Whenever she came to Chicago to. Take. Him on two months to. Meet with me. And what I realize now looking back is. I never knew about her struggles. As a woman scientist mother. Daughter of. Immigrant parents. My affection a. Very prominent physicist. Who would get the Nobel Prize. She had many struggles since she really didn't. Get a real job until she was 54. What was her name. Louise Fritz. And. So what I've come to realize is and I think we do that also in our career comes from space. The constant is. We translate the enthusiasm. The excitement. Of doing science. And. We don't. Talk about. Our struggles. But. She certainly didn't. And that's. I think what's important and that's how we treat our young people. You suck them. But. I think when you when you talk about the science and you get excited and you don't even think about things. That's what kept. All these women going for that period. Because I love their work. Right. Here. I mean they were working for nothing. They were in these part time positions with funny titles. I don't think women today would. Would accept that which is really good. I mean. It's a real change. What. How did you. You were an undergraduate. And is that where you got you majored in chemistry. So is that where you got hooked into it or. Well I was. Actually. That I. Attribute to my husband. At that time my future husband and I met. As an undergrad. At the University of Chicago. And I was. At that time. Thinking I knew I wanted to do something in science. And I was thinking more. Biological Field. But. My husband was a graduate student or. Future husband as a graduate student in chemistry. And he convinced me and. I. Am glad he did. He convinced me that if I studied chemistry. I. Would learn more. Physical techniques and then the molecular level understanding of. Processes. That I could apply to. Apply this understanding to biological systems. And I will say naively I thought yes I can pick up biology that's not so simple I realize now. But. At any rate I went. Into chemistry. And did my graduate work in chemistry. And. I was working on a. Chemical problem for the chemistry. And. Very interestingly the problem I was working on because I think any problem. Most. There are very few that. I think won't. Trigger your interest once you get into it. And. Pretty much forgot. Along the way. That I was interested. In studying violence persistence. And then I. Came out to our. Kind of. Postdoc and Ana. In the photosynthesis program. And ended up doing exactly what I set out to do without even. Planning it. And we. Had been studying photosynthesis. Since. And essentially since we are chemists and we study. Photosynthesis from the. Chemical point of view we're not studying the. Biological aspects is why we're interested in understanding. How Life Is initially converted. Into useful chemical entities. So this is really. Chemistry Physics. And biology. And. So. It's a. Very interdisciplinary. So I think I made the right choice and as I say. I wasn't. When I take it once I graduated I wasn't so concerned. Anymore about. Working out the violence I could come up with. Photosynthesis it certainly took place. So what was your experience like in graduate school. Were there other women who were you. That was. When I look back now. There really weren't many women there was. Really one other. Well you. More than one other woman. In my class. I can't remember the number we started out but we ended up. To. Remember. And I still see it. In. School. Once in a while. The other woman. She spoke of asked. But. What I've always said about graduate school is. All. Of us were. Suffering together as. Well. Male and female. And so. I didn't feel there was such a problem there. The female. Because. The other students. Helped him so that. He may. Graduate school shouldn't be that way. By the way there has been discussion about that for years. The. Students didn't feel like second class citizens over here. I don't know if you read some of these articles. Over the years and actually fairly recently there have been suicides at Harvard. There's an article. That. I have. We were just discussing it this week. DEBORAH Rollason. I've heard that she was here and then. This. Week. Feeling period she gave a scientific talk in the chemistry that is on Monday. And Tuesday. She gave a. Lively talk. Sponsored by the. Science program in Oregon. Called. In the millennium of affirmative action for white males. Long enough. Said a very provocative title. But. She discussed how the academic life really. Is unfriendly. For everybody. And women. Are smart enough to see that men that. They're. Voting with their feet so to speak. And that reminded me of the. Study. It was a study in. The mid 80s. Of graduate students. I think one of them was an M.I.T.. Run. By Navy dress or. Something and one was a birthday and I don't remember thank. You. For the service. But. Thank you. The women graduate students were the one. That. Voiced. Complaints complaint. Well. If. And what the real issue wasn't just complaining you heard what the real issues were. And they were dropping out more. Than the. Male students. Who had similar concerns but they. Weren't voicing them quite as much. They were sticking with them. But. I think it's it's an unhealthy environment for everyone. But nothing. I. Think some things have changed but. You still. Hear about suicides. And it's so competitive. Right. So I don't think. Perhaps if I if I really thought. About it I would find. A lot of. Issues. What I felt was once I came out into the real world is really. When. There was. Real competition for stakes so to speak with me. Is where I felt. The pressures being women in particular being alone in the chemistry division. What was that like. Well part of it. I didn't pay that much attention because I was trying to. Things. And enjoying my work. And trying to. Get promoted and so forth. On the other hand. Once as I said. Earlier. Once they. Did. Get promoted. To scientist which is a more. Permanent status meeting. I did. This tonight I needed to. Find a network. And. That's when I started the career conference. And I think the difference between having. Women. To work with and talked to. And. Can. See when I didn't have is really when I realized. How valuable it would have been. To have that right. And. Also. I started. Supervising. Postcards. And. I had. A woman postdoc and then I realized how. Easy it was to communicate with a woman in work. I also saw that. That. Is. Something I. Had been missing. And one thing I find. Really talking about that is because when you get there. The listeners here. No matter where I go in the world if there's a woman that's supervising a program or. Running a program. You usually see there several women. Who. Work. In that. Group also. Do you think it's because. Women communicate. It's easier for women to communicate with each other. I think so. I wouldn't have said well. Because I. Just said that I wouldn't have said that. 30 years ago. But once I was able to see the difference I had nothing to give it back. I started noticing in the course all these books came out. You know. Quiche. Men are from. Mars. So I certainly started noticing it more and. I find it much easier to communicate. With those women and then I noticed also you go to a restaurant you see two women sitting there and. You watch two men. There's a whole different rhythm from the body. Yeah. So what. So you really moved up through the ranks at Argonne. And. Did your research interests changed over the years or you that. You did different things. Well. Again this is a very good time to be asking these questions and I'm also preparing this topic for next week. And looking back. At. Research portfolios. And. I did different things. But. I always came back to the photosynthetic system. It's such a reliable system to study. But with new eyes it's time because we develop new tools for one way. And. We. Can have better resolution. And. We can go back to the old problems. Insolvent. And most recently No I have really been doing different things and actually as division director. That has been the most troubling experience for me of course because I had to learn about many fields. And that's. How I would say. One of. The best aspects of this job. There are all the problems. Being an administrator but the fact that. I've certainly broadened. My. Perspective. Some science. Experiment. Obviously a requirement I have to defend. Various. Various stages. Different chemistries. Fields chemistry and science is becoming so much more. Most of this come. To me. But what. In my own research. We've certainly broadened we've taken what we've learned from the photosynthetic unit. And how it converts. Life into. Usable chemical energy which is really. Conversion of light. To. Electrochemical potential. And charged situation across remembering things. We started looking at. Model systems in. 96. Something that's very much. In vogue. And these are. Nano crystalline. Materials. A. Cowboys. And they also. Act like a fiddle. So the synthetic creates the field. Shanghai and then they we charge separation. And we've been working on. Modifying the surface of these small particles. To extend the distance of. So. Certainly. In the last several years I feel that. My research was broadened and that's. As a result of being able to work with. People to come. To bring different expertise. And my expertise is very complementary to. Seriously. Confront. How many people do you supervise or how many. There. Are. We have. About 50. Scientists. In the division. There are more people in division. Building permanent scientists. The division has been shrinking in the last several years. Our budget. Has been stressed. Instead of the science but. Stress. Do you think that's going to continue or do you think it'll get better. Well. I'm afraid at least for us. I think it's going to continue. The reason being. The labs. Have been in the past. Funded. And. I'm. Hesitating here. Let's just talk about. The Chemical Sciences. Because it's it's a little. Different. Throughout the lab. The chemistry division's funding comes from the Department of Energy. The. Office of basic Energy Sciences the division of. Chemical Science and people. And. We have received so within years. What we call core funding. And it's been coming steadily. And in the. Past. I'd say. Over 15 years ago. We generally. Received a cost of living increases to. Go for the last 15 years. Or so our budget has been slashed and in the last. Three. Years or so actually down. So having a flat budget means that we've been losing. Every year. So the philosophy in Washington is not to. Obviously. Not to. Continue to fund the lab programs. In the way that have been funded. But the philosophy is to have new initiatives. Each year that we need to respond to. Right proposals. And. Win funding. And in order for them to do that they skim off. The top of their. To. For the core funding this came off a certain amount. So our. Core funding goes down. So we're in a changing time. So I don't expect it. To. Even if the science budget. Increases. The National Science. Piece is so pretty early. Their philosophy now. To develop new initiatives. So we. I. Mean. We could. Potentially yes we could increase our benefit a lot if there is. An increased national forensic. Experience so to change in time we're going to have to. Reinvent. The hard to develop new programs. We can't take care of the old one. Exactly. I mean we're in that we're actually in that situation. And. It's changing times. I'm not bemoaning it. I'm just saying that it's. It's what is right. So we haven't the division most of it. Most of us are old timers like I am. And we. We meet. You have to stop hanging on to the past. We have to realize. It's a whole new. Of. But then we become more like the university. There's just going to ask about that how the research laboratory like Argonne compares with a university. Because a university is always struggling to find funding. I'm wondering if that will become more like that. That's what it looks like to me. And. Then. I can. I ask the question I don't know the answer. Because. There are fewer advantages to being in the lab with. That. Fewer people. Will. Want to come here. So it's it's very interesting times in the sense that they're very uncertain. But the differences are we don't. Have individual investigators although we are called. Individual investigators principally in this case. But we work in groups. Teams. And. That's. Becoming even. More so that we're. Working. For the new lab management is trying to get. Programs going across the lab. Which is another. New way of operating because again our funding does come directly from the Department of Education. Division of Clinical Sciences. So. And then funding comes. To other divisions. Through other programs. So it's. It's a little. Difficult to make these transitions because the Department of Energy is not so. Interested in. Working across the lab so-called. Tensions on how. Deep inside. But. Nevertheless the difference. Here. Has been that we work in groups. And we have. Programs. To. Without even though each individual person has his or her. Own. Sort of carved out area of expertise. How's it been with them working in teams. It's not. Difficult to supervise or easier. Well I have been division director. I find it difficult since it's always difficult to field. You know. And. Sometimes saying. It's like I hear you. I'm sure you will see it. So you have deals a lot of personality all your research agendas Sonya and you're now you're dealing with personalities people who haven't grown up. Thinking that. Science is in fact I asked many people why did you go into science and. Often they said I. Think. I didn't think I would have to work with people and then everyone laughs I know these are people who. Would like to work alone and think. And after all they are developing their own science is a creative act. Nevertheless. We are working in these teams and there are always tensions about whose idea. That must. Be a Struggle. But I think all of this affects men and women. Because women. It's easier for women to work in teams. I mean that's. I've seen that. And maybe that's. Why these groups that developed where there's a woman supervising they're more women and they do work more and there's there's a lot that's been written. How many women work and are gone now. Well I don't know the total number who are working out against. The number of. Women scientists on the. Border. Of the. It's between 100 and 200. I would say hundred and fifty but I think it's probably a little bit more. And a lot of the market teams. How many but the number of women in our game. Over. It's always been around 20 percent. It varies but. Since I can remember. We. Just. Ordered 5 percent the. Number of women scientists has been covering it's 11 percent 13 percent. Up. To. Do. How many women are in the chemistry division personnel. We have well. Permanent. Staff and we have. To remember I was here alone. I don't see the numbers. I that because. It's changing but. You. Quickly want to. See. Seven or eight. Permanent. And then other folks come in and grab me a postdocs. Actually we've done quite well. How have you found as a supervisor. Do men respond differently to having a female supervisor. Do you think. Or division head. It's hard for me to say because I don't have. Any. Comparison. I think. Some of them do. I have trouble. With that. That probably helps you that you've paid for so long. I would think that would be an advantage. I think. It's. Both an advantage and disadvantage because they. Think that I'm. Favoring. Certain programs. Hoping. That I come from. That I. Work with. In other ways. Given. That. It's been the hardest thing for me. As. This theater is. Finding out that people. Don't trust me. I. Can say I'm terribly naive. But. You know you have. The best intentions. And you find out through their thinking you're doing this that the other think you're doing something there's no basis for it and ask. And then you realize that they can think that way. You know. Can you trust. Her. I suppose it does. Besides your and. I'm just curious if you had any female or male mentors to your education in your early time. At Argonne. That had a big impact on you. Well I think I. Can get my husband. Who has. Been involved and. Also. I think it's interesting. For many years. Are. Until actually until. Last year. Are going to have. Three. Sometimes four. See. Women senior scientists. But it would cover. Two two three four because one would leave. Within a. Year if there wasn't there weren't enough. That. When you would lose one. You could. Plus. There's no critical mass. Jack Benny made the same. And. It seemed that all of them. Over the years except from one had husbands at the lab. And I always thought that's a built in. Mentor. Why do you think that is. You that they were also a captive audience. But. Why do you think why do you think there were so many couples. Working. Well I think. It's always hard. To predict problems. In. Jobs. And. If you do and I have to grant the fact that they've allowed. It. To happen. So. The University of Chicago where rents are on had. Very strong. Nepotism. Rules over the years in fact. You. Know. Me Read poker player who. Had to work at Argonne. Although the University of Chicago claims her death was. Because her husband in recent years in Chicago. So I give. Hagen. Credit. For allowing it to happen. And I've even been in the same division with them. What's been. Because it's very hard to find jobs in the same place. And. Again. So. I mean that's what I mean by captive audience. What. About. 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