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opportunities to meet with Afghans. I also was involved in writing poetry and things in Afghanistan that was published. And I got to know the intellectuals of Afghanistan through this experience. And then as director of the Fulbright Foundation when I became well acquainted with many of the bureaucrats of Afghanistan, many of the ministers of Afghanistan. And it provided me really with some kind of over the years at least I didn't have it obviously in the initial experience that I have, but some ability to analyze it was going on in the society and to trying obtain information about really what was developing at this time. I remember particularly that where I lived in one part of Kaaba, the person who lived behind me was Nur Muhammad Taraki. He was the president of the regime that came in, in 1978, the first president, the man who replaced him by executing him or by killing him. Hafiza Lamine, who was also a member of the Cal party, lived about two blocks down from me in one area. And this Bob Rock Carmel lived just a block down from me in another direction. And then the man who was Daoud's adopted son and his closest political ally and his sort of liaison between himself and the leftist lived right next door to me. And I used to think it unusual because I really didn't understand at the time I was going on that I used to see Daoud come to this house the next door to me on a regular basis. I knew that he was a related by adoption with this fellow but it was a rather regular thing and when this guy would leave a number of other people would come. I recognize some of them is Bob Rock, et cetera Who was going on obviously and what I realized in 1973 when Daoud brought about his coup, which throughout the monarchy, throughout his cousin, the King and brought himself in his president of the first Republic of Afghanistan that he had been conducting at least a discussions leading to the development of this successful coup. Because this young man who was his adopted son became his vice president and he also was a member of the Parcham party. So it was an interesting thing for me because I was able to see these people in the Bazaar to talk to them. I knew them a little bit. I used to go to poetry, reading soirees with Nur Muhammad Taraki is quite illiterate individual. And so I had an opportunity to see these individuals and develop a certain kind of feeling for the kinds of leaders that they proved to be, or to not to be. And perhaps the most interesting aspect of all this is that Daoud himself really believed that he would have the undying support of the Parcham Wing of these two Marxist parties. And he was able to come in with them in 1973 to throw out the King. And it was not indeed a large, you know, popular uprising. It was again a military kind of coup. And so he came in and after a period of time sought to purge these various leftist from his government, because he was recognizing that through the leftist, the Soviet Union was exerting power and influence on Afghanistan to a degree where Afghanistan was unable to sort of direct itself in its own economic and political matters. For example, they discovered world-class deposits in chromium and copper in the Eastern part of Afghanistan and offered out bids for its development to the world. And a number of private corporations from Japan and France and India competed with the Soviet union's government consortium for the right to the exploitation or the exploration of these deposits. The bid was won by the Japanese is the most favorable, the least favorable was that of the Soviet Union. And yet was in a year. It was the Soviet Union was prospecting in Afghanistan. And actually developing these particular resources. I was later told by the foreign minister under Daoud who was a very close personal friend of mine that it was because of the pressures that the Soviet exerted upon Afghanistan indicating that they would no longer provide military supplies, et cetera that they were forced to go along these ways. So Daoud sought to remove himself a bit from these leftists and as a result, the two leftist parties that I indicated before they had sort of spread apart because of personality differences in 18 and 1977 combined. And they were able to combine to the point where in 1978, in April of that year, they had a bloody coup in which they all sit Daoud and execute his family. In much the same kind of scene if any of you have seen the movie Nicholas and Alexandra, the kind of death that they brought to that family. The same kind of death that the Romanov's experience, the Afghan Royal family are not that they were no longer the Royal family in political terms, but at least most of these people were still from the Royal family. At least a family of Daoud had gathered in the presidential palace in the dining room. And they were all executed there save one, a young woman who now lives in Washington who witnessed the execution of her husband and three children. So she is able to give us a at least a personal witness to that to that tragic event in the life of that particular family. So we have faced with that particular situation in 1978. And I personally feel that the Soviet Union was a surprised by this particular turn of events, as many people in Afghanistan, in United States where. The Soviet Union actually had been getting along very well with the Afghan government, things are going very well for the Soviet and their relationship with Afghanistan. And I don't think that they really had any intention at that time to combine with the Afghan communist party to bring about this particular coup. But the individual who was most successful in bringing this about was Mr. Amin, who was educated by the Columbia University in New York. And he was a very clever organizational genius. And he was able to bring in just a few people to use the military to effectively bring about this coup that became a very bloody one in the suppression of the opposition that developed against it over a period of the three days that it took to become successful. I think that the Soviet Union was somewhat surprised but they recognized immediately the opportunity and Amin, I think, making a right decision for himself at least in his party sought to tie themselves to the Soviet Union in order to maintain their viability because this particular party did not have a broad base of political support. Amin recognized that he would be unable to bring in the various elements of the Afghan society, other political elements into the government and yet survive as he would've the help party or the communist party and himself survived. Therefore relied very heavily on the Soviet union to be able to maintain himself in power. And opposed to this particular government where the majority of the people of Afghanistan and what ensued was a civil war. There was spearheaded primarily by a group of people called the Freedom Fighters, the Mujahedin and about what you read in the newspaper from time to time scoring this critical kind of a victory or having this experience of this particular kind of defeat or making statements from out of Pakistan with regards to their opposition, to the Soviet occupation. Actually, they were fighting a civil war with the Amin government, even before the Soviet occupation of their country. And by November of last fall had reached a position where the Amin government was able to control only three major cities in that country. And the most of the countryside was controlled by the Afghan Freedom Fighters. It was obvious to most analysts that if the State of Affairs continued as they were and after the Soviet union did not send more than 10 to 15,000 military advisers that they had in Afghanistan already, that the Amin government in this particular experiment and communism or socialism would fail. And so Amin asked, began asking in August of last year for an increase in military support from the Soviet Union in both personnel and sophisticated weapons. The Soviet union agreed to do that based on a number of conditions, which would diminish the control of the Afghan government over the military, the Soviet military and the control of the Afghan government over the weaponry. Amin would not accept these conditions. And so the Soviets played ball with him as he at least made it appear that he was playing ball with him as he requested. What happens was of course at the Soviet union, did bring all of these soldiers into Afghanistan and in over Christmas of last year, 100,000 troops essentially. And of course they said that they came in at the invitation of the government of Afghanistan. That to me is somewhat of an uncertainty. Here we have a situation where we're talking like the the mouse inviting the cat to come in and devour it because as soon as the Soviets gained control over Afghanistan or moved in with his troops, the first thing they did was to take Mr. Amin out and execute him. And bring in Mr. Carmel, who had done Amin's opponent in the past and who had split from or had been forced out of Afghanistan after their successful coup in 1978, by Amin, in order to for Amin to consolidate his own help party. So he was off in Czechoslovakia at this time as Ambassador. And then later he was fired as Ambassador and was living in Czechoslovakia at the time that the coup or that the Soviet occupation occurred. And so a broadcast stemmed from the Soviet union with Mr. Carmel's voice on it, which was taped saying, \"I have requested the Soviets to come in and help us remove the elements of the imperialist forces alleging that Mr. Amin and his associates were tied into the CIA.\" And so he came in and then was named the president of Afghanistan along with his Parcham France. Now that's sort of a chronology of what happened. I presented the background involving Daoud and his people because I think it's important to know that, that this just didn't happen overnight that the Soviets had a role in Afghanistan. They had been, had a very active role in the development of that country, just as the United States did. The Cold War development experiences that we shared the both the United States and Soviet union. So the Soviet union contributing somewhere in the neighborhood of $2 billion worth of aid in the United States, one half that. And so there was a big involvement in the University of Nebraska, for example, had a contract in Afghanistan as did other universities, Columbia, Indiana, Wyoming and another group of universities within a consortium. So there were these presences of other countries in Afghanistan. It was sort of interesting to see the way the Soviet's and the Americans would collaborate in developmental schemes having to do with Afghanistan, paving of roads. They take one section, we take another development of agricultural schemes, et cetera. They take one region having to do with wheat there and we'll take the one down here. And it was very interesting where, you know a panel of individuals, Afghan, Soviets and Americans and maybe somebody from the United Nation would sit in the Ministry of Planning of Afghanistan and decide how the monies that were provided by these various donor countries and agencies would be split up and into which priorities they would be directed for development. So it wasn't something, you know in which the Soviet and all of a sudden decided they wanted to take Afghanistan. There was a long history of involvement there of a different kind. But what did occur of course was that the Soviet union was presented with a situation where Afghanistan became as they call it a member of the Socialist World. And the Soviet Union, as you know, had been following a policy, which was enunciated in 1968 following the invasion or the occupation or reoccupation or whatever we call this move into Czechoslovakia to house to dupe check in his political colleagues as the Brezhnev Doctrine. And the interesting thing about this is that with Afghanistan we have the first application of the Brezhnev of Doctrine outside of Eastern Europe into Central Asia. And it is my belief that the real reason that the Soviet's invaded and occupied Afghanistan was because they were determined not to see Afghanistan slip from the Socialist World. And we have, of course, a number of other possible causes for this, for example the Soviet concern of having another militant Muslim regime on a Southern border. Just like the one that had been instituted under Khomeini in Iran. And I think that that's a part of it but I really think that the basic reason had to do with the desire not to see this regime in Afghanistan which was obviously going to fall in a civil war, civil fighting there to the Freedom Fighters. And so he decided to come in as they did. Now, the question is did they bite off more than they could chew? Did they make a mistake or who made the real mistake? My own feeling is that the Soviet union knew well what was doing. It was faced essentially in the United States with a government that was somewhat indecisive in the conducting of its foreign policy in most of the world. It was a government and an administration that was occupied by the so-called Iranian crisis. I call it the so-called Iranian crisis. Cause I think the real crisis in Iran will come after the hostage issue was resolved. It was a country whose foreign policy was, I think single-minded narrowed to the successfully and what we call the SALT agreements. Now, I'm for one of them have a strong proponent of the idea of Strategic Arms Limitation. And I'm not unlike a candidate Reagan, a believer that we have in the past necessarily bargained away all of our military chips. I think that however we need to have these particular kinds of agreements and these particular kinds of objectives put into more of a global perspective. And we had in our state department at the time an individual by name Marshall Schulman, who was the primary advisor to the president into Cyrus Vance on Soviet affairs. Now if you do not know anything about him is a colleague of the Zbigniew Brzezinski, both from the same university from the same department of political science. And they are not their colleagues only in profession, not in the views they share nor in their personal relationship. I think it's interesting to point out that the first individual that Cyrus Vance appointed to the state departments Cadre after he was named secretary of state. And he was the first individual named by Carter to his Cabinet was Marshall Shulman. And most people believe that they did this because the second person that Carter appointed to his Cabinet level official then was the Zbigniew Brzezinski And Vance understood being a knowledgeable bureaucrat that he would have to be bargaining with Brzezinski for throughout the whole period that they were in the administration for the president's year on most affairs. And of course we have here then the beginning of what I considered a natural development towards a narrow consideration of foreign policy it would focus primarily on the big power balance. And while I think again, this is an important thing for us to be concerned about at all times. We need to put these things in global perspective. We need to be able to keep focus on situations happening in Afghanistan and Iran and other parts of the world without becoming handcuffed. So that we're always in the position of reacting to events Now during the last year, prior to the time that the Soviets occupied Afghanistan, I used to go with a number of individuals had been in bastards to Afghanistan from the United States in the past to talk to people in the administration. We went up all the way through the everybody in the state department. And we eventually met twice with the vice-president Mondale. We indicated that we believed that Afghanistan that the Soviet union would eventually have over a hundred thousand troops in Afghanistan by the spring of 1980. Now we were saying this in the spring of 1979. We did not predict as the Soviet union would occupy Afghanistan in December at Christmas time where they would do it in that fashion. We felt they would wind up being sort of the de facto occupiers of Afghanistan through the invitation other than Taraki government which was primarily controlled by Mr. Amin. We were met with sort of incredulous stares and comments rejecting this particular sort of theory. And it's one that, you know, I was somewhat uncomfortable with because it made me sound like a born again hawk as we say. And you know, as one who grew up in this sort of Kennedy era and then thereafter and the period of the sixties, et cetera, I didn't, I find myself not exactly comfortable with this but yet I felt very strongly that the situation in Afghanistan was very ripe to this kind of thing because we had not addressed American interest in many areas of the world, many regions of the world and the conducting our foreign policy over the last decade. We had gone from sort of the Big Bang Approach to foreign policy under Henry Kissinger we had a lot of headlines and a lot of developments of things here and there but nothing that seemed to stay with us. And that in a sense brought us Iran and Cambodia to a point of what I consider a period of masterful indecision under Cyrus Vance. And I really believe that had the United States had the opportunity. And I mean had taken advantage of opportunities presented to it in the last year that they might've been able to, that we might've been able to preclude the occupation of Afghanistan. Now I'm gonna leave that open to the questioning. You might want to question why I believe that. And I like to leave a few things to be unanswered. I was going to show some slides but we're having a little trouble with the machine. I think I just tried to cover that in some of the things I said, so we're not gonna need to slide some. And I've spoken here for about an hour and I guess that's the amount of time I was to have. And I'll be, I'll stay here until you run out of questions. Okay. Any questions? Yes.\r\n\r\n- your last week.\r\n\r\n- Let's see what I know, David.\r\n\r\n- And he said that after the invasion there was a political change in the U.S around the world that change being that World War Three is no longer unthinkable topic. Very openly discussed. And they're talking about inability to Afghanistan is mainly sort of a signal for the?\r\n\r\n- Well, did everybody hear the question? Okay, can you hear me if I don't use the mic? Can everybody hear me? Okay, I'll continue to use the mic. The question was that last week, David Klein, a freelance journalist and a man who I know fairly well was here to speak on the same topic. I think it's sort of interesting that in the same town in rural Iowa in it's almost as unusual as having a center for Afghanistan studies in Omaha and Nebraska. You have two individuals speaking on the topic of Afghanistan, a place that hardly anybody had heard of before the Soviets occupied the country. I remember when we first said we were gonna go to Afghanistan people thought we were going to Africa. When we came back the first time, my wife was wearing an Afghan coat and a lady came up there and said where'd you get that coat? And she said, well, I got this in Afghanistan. The lady said, oh, is that new boutique around the corner? Any case here, you're be set with two individuals within the space of one week coming to talk to you about this country that, you know, had only passing. We only had passing glimpses of and say, maybe the movie the man who would be King Rudyard Kipling's writings or maybe now something like the Far Pavilions And he suggested, as you said that with the invasion or the an occupation of Afghanistan that we were beginning an era in which people were considering the fact that the Third World War was a real possibility. And indeed it was being talked about in various circles politically around the world. I've talked to David about this particular topic. And indeed, I think there is an element of truth about this. One of the things I think is very interesting is here we have a president who came on Nationwide Television after the Soviet union occupied a country, a country that was non-aligned. That was for all intents and purposes in any case at least at that time, a Pro-Soviet Satellite or a pro-Soviet Client State. And a country that was certainly no threat to the internal security of the Soviet union, they came in and of course they occupied this and our president would come on National Television and admit that he had learned more about the Soviet union in the previous several days. And he had learned about the Soviet union all the days of his life prior to that. And he know what he was saying of course is that not only is he born again in his religion but he's also born again and his approach to foreign policy. I truly feel that Jimmy Carter did not anticipate that this would happen because I know that Marshall Schulman was absolutely aghast at this particular occupation. He had been telling individuals like myself throughout the last two years that he felt that if you dealt with the Soviet union reasonably and I'm not saying that particular theory is absolutely false but I like to add conditions and caveats to if you dealt with the Soviet union reasonably, they would respond in a reasonable fashion. I think quite frankly, what we need to understand in our foreign policy is that if you give a particular country, you know or any individual on opening in a Poker Game, they're gonna take advantage of that. And I think we did that particular thing with the Soviet union. We were forced to react to a confrontation that was stimulated by the fact that we had not, I think effectively enunciated our interests and that part of the world prior to that time. And so as a result, perhaps maybe we are closer to the a confrontation that might spark something like the Third War. I do not, Third World War. However, I do not subscribe to what I think David has said. And that is that people are becoming resigned to the fact that there's going to be a Third World War. I'm just too optimistic, maybe naive and foolish and individual to believe that that's the case. I certainly hope that I'm correct obviously. I think that we will, we encourage however the kinds of confrontations and that will promote the kinds of reactions that could lead to something like that if we do not articulate our interest. Those of you who study or are scholars of political science, you know, enjoy I think in presenting the idea of foreign policy development or foreign the whole idea of foreign policy as somewhat of an interesting combination of circumstances towards the development of various aims and interests of a country. But it's not all that complex when you understand what your interests are in various regions of the world. And you try and bring those in line to the extent that you can with the various countries in those regions and then conduct policy from there. When I think what we have failed to do really is to pay the appropriate amount of attention to various regions of the world. At the same time, we are very deeply interested in other specific considerations. And as a result of that, we put ourselves and I think in a vulnerable position that does promote misunderstanding, adventurism and in effect what is going on in Afghanistan, therefore confrontation and possible reaction, which I think is dangerous. Yes.\r\n\r\n- When you were finished up\r\n\r\n- I thought you'd never ask.\r\n\r\n- Could you elaborate on\r\n\r\n- Right, what I'm talking about is primarily a political and diplomatic kind of thing. I don't feel that the United States could viably be involved particularly in terms of military personnel in Afghanistan. It's a landlocked country in order to get into Afghanistan would either have to go through the Soviet union or Iran or Pakistan. The only option that remains viable to us right now is of course, Pakistan and quite frankly the instability that country, I think turns off that particular kind of consideration. Throughout the last two years, throughout the year and three quarters prior to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, there was considerable amount of brutality, even genocide being practiced in Afghanistan and which the Soviets were participating. For which we did not have, I suppose on the spot witnesses like Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather or people of that nature who were able to be on the spot in Vietnam. And as a result, there was not much attention drawn to this particular thing, neither by our media nor by our government, but we had information. And since most of that information has been confirmed that there was systematic execution going on of various political percentages in Afghanistan that various villages that were harboring Afghan Freedom Fighters were in the beginning subjected to seek and destroy search and destroy missions. And then later on, when that was successful, they were just bombed off the face of the earth. And there were as many as, you know, five to 10,000 individuals civilians who were eliminated in those particular forays by bombing forays into Central Afghanistan. And individuals would come out of the country with these particular kinds of stories. We didn't have to, I suppose, cite to specifics. But I think that one of the things that I found very interesting after the Soviet occupation was the reaction of the Third World War and the what I call the world's public forum, the United Nations. And I think that if the United States had put enough emphasis on a continuing public discussion of what was going on in that country at that particular time, that there might have been enough diplomatic attention focused there to that the Soviets might have refrained from building up the kinds of military have having the kind of military buildup on the Afghan border that eventually brought about the occupation. I'm not the only person who shares that belief by the way, Malcolm Toon, the former ambassador in United States to the Soviet union suggested the same thing during all of last year, before he was relieved to his post. And so did these ambassadors to Afghanistan. And so did the Afghan, the American mission in Afghanistan, which that which remained thereafter the assassination or the excuse me, the kidnapping, and then the killing of the American ambassador to Afghanistan. So I'm not suggesting that we should have been involved militarily. I'm suggesting that had we made these statements however and this is the military side of this, that the support that the Freedom Fighters would have enjoyed from the Arab countries and the Gulf from China from Pakistan and from, in particularly Egypt and China that are the two most important linkages here because they have a surplus of Soviet military weaponry. And the weaponry that the Afghan Freedom Fighters are using is indeed Soviet. And because the Soviet military was trained in Afghanistan when the Soviet military when the Afghan, I mean, excuse me when the Afghan military was in, because it was trained. So these individuals having mutinied brought with them their Soviet military hardware and they were able to train the Freedom Fighters in the use of these particular things. So we had interchangeable parts possibly here. So I think that through my own experiences with diplomats from both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia during that period but they were looking for the United States to conduct some kind of statements politically that might have encouraged them because they were afraid that the Soviet union with the sense of bringing about for them some kind of trouble political back mail or something of this nature that would have precluded them from getting so involved. Now, you might ask what kinds of things the Soviet union could do with either Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? For Pakistan during, in August, 1978, the Soviet union established camps in Afghanistan for Baluchis from Pakistan to come to be trained in guerrilla warfare and dissident activities. So they could go back into Pakistan as a fifth column and the Baluchistan area. So it's very easy for the Soviet's to help to maintain the instability of one of the two most instable countries, unstable countries in the world today, the other being Iran. So, you know, the Soviet union put itself in a position in Afghanistan to take advantage of a situation where they're probably not have to consider further military expeditions because they have a very instable environment in which to operate. Now, I don't know if that's the kind of answer you expect. We will never know exactly whether or not diplomatic endeavors, whether levied either through a quiet or more open approaches would have been successful. Well, you know, the Freedom Fighters really can't use American weaponry at this stage. There isn't, that I have any evidence that they were getting anything, it was substantial. Actually, if you remember at that time from April of 78 until the downfall of the shawl was just a matter of months and he was himself very actively trying to gain keep things stable there. So he was really in a position to do much to bring about some change there that the supported that the Afghans did get by the way were. It was primarily through the making of weapons in Pakistan. There's a tremendous arms industry in what we would call Cottage Industry, a small arms making. And the Afghans essentially were equipped with Lee-Enfield rifles that were made there and as copies of the Lee-Enfield in Pakistan. But I think we didn't really, do you remember really during the period 1978 to the time that's always occupied that we really brought Afghanistan into the headlines? Anytime that was really brought in the headlines is when our ambassador was killed or when as an Afghan, I can't think of anything else. It wasn't much concern raised in the press. It was, you know, now and again an article but you didn't hear Cyrus Vance. Cyrus Vance is very concerned about they and SALT at that time. He did not want to believe really that the Soviet union I think would want to do will do the kinds of things that it did in Afghanistan because he was, he recognized that would mean the end of the what he had as late as his basic foundation for the epitaph that he wanted on his, on his political team.\r\n\r\n- But basically, you don't get anything.\r\n\r\n- That's right. 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now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45492/file/118451#t=27.28,29.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45492/file/118451/transcript/29788/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Well beyond this, the grapes and the cherries,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45492/file/118451#t=30.73,33.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45492/file/118451/transcript/29788/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have one just basic 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the Soviet Union has its eyes, and maybe it'll wait 10, 20 years. It's waited several hundred, it can afford to wait, 10 to 20 more years for the situation in Pakistan to further deteriorate, even further than it has already. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Given you have three wishes, how would you guide American foreign policy towards the situation in Afghanistan as it is now?\r\n\r\n- Well beyond this, the grapes and the cherries, I have one just basic wish. And that is that, I think that the United States should encourage, the shipment of surplus Soviet arms that are available in, Egypt and in China, to Afghanistan. And although this sounds like a very radical statement in the post Vietnam era. We must remember that all the time while we were conducting Salt 1 and the detente policies under Kissinger, the Soviet Union was supplying North Vietnam and the Viet Cong. And it didn't seem in any way to interfere with the, the warming up and in, in increasing cordiality of relations between our country and that country at that time. So I feel that the, what the Afghan freedom fighters need. See I believe that the 99% of that population I know, and again I return back to the information I gave up on my personal involvement in that country. I know a great deal of the freedom fighters both inside and outside the country. I know they're committed. I know that they're gonna continue to fight even if they don't have the weaponry. And they're probably gonna get massacred as a result. I think given the fact that they're going to fight, it'd be a much more interesting skirmish there were a battle, were they to enjoy, the possession of weapons that would be able to combat the tanks, and primarily, those helicopter gunships that the Soviet Union are using against their guerrilla tactics. So if I had my wish, I'd like to see us, encourage even more than we have if we have at all, the movement of those kinds of weapons, essentially the individually harnessed, some, seven heat-seeking, weapons that can bring down tanks and helicopter gunships. It's an interesting point to add here that one of the freedom fighters, in a conference that we held in Omaha in May, bringing a number of these groups together for the purpose of trying to demonstrate some kind of solidarity for the media primarily. He an individual who had only attended through the school to the eighth grade said you know, \"Can't understand the United States.\" He said. Here we have a situation in which your interests are linked with the interest of the majority of the population of a country usually, you're on the inside trying to hold out, hold off the insurgence in some way. Here the insurgents are a link of interests that are linked to your own interests, long-term interests. At least as I perceive them that was at least as he said he perceives us. And he said, \"Don't you understand what the continual involvement in Vietnam did to your economy? So don't you think that what you're suffering right now is, is not just an expression of the economic realities of today but is also a part of a continuation of that particular impact to find your signing. Don't you understand what, what might happen to the Soviet Union if they were, left fighting on the Hindu Kush mountains for 10 years? What impact that might have on their economy?\" And you know I have to admit that the guy has a point there that certainly needs some consideration. And I wonder really whether or not we have considered that. Some people think it's irresponsible to suggest that we might even be involved, in the fashion that I have even suggested here. But, there's a people over there who are going and experiencing genocide. The Soviet Union is essentially using Afghanistan, for the same purposes that Hitler used Spain before the Second World War. And they're using a chemical warfare in that country. They're using what are called, anti dissident weapons that they have developed, because I think they're concerned about the possibility of dissidence, within their own, or borders. You know in Tajikistan or some places through the end or maybe towards the end of the century. And so it's a good opportunity for them to practice, and to utilize their materials. They're not having as much success as I think they'd like to have in Afghanistan. Or it would probably be over by now given the, disparity of resources that each side has. But I feel that we should, we should certainly be thinking. I think about this much more than we have. Yes. Do I believe so? Yes, I do. No, my reports don't come at all from the United States press on that. They come from the freedom fighters themselves and of course you might have to, to view that with some skepticism because they are the obvious victims of describing their own selves, but the kinds of conditions that they are describing, or that they are undergoing when the use of, of a certain kind of yellow, haze or something that's sprayed over them, it seems very much to me like, and I think to many others as well. And as well there's also some kind of a green gas. I don't know, whether or not they're using this particular, gas that has been said to have been used in, in Cambodia etc that is, totally lethal. It might just be, like a mustard gas or something of this nature. But I always think that they are using a more sophisticated gas. A number of us, told our State Department that, we believe that the Soviets used gas in the, campaign against the Salang Tunnel, in August of 1979. The Afghan freedom fighters occupied the tunnel that links Northern Afghanistan with Southern Afghanistan. The world's highest tunnel. It's the only road between the North and the South and it's the transit road of course for the bringing of military, weaponry. Th Afghan freedom fighters were able to occupy that. I was watching that with great interest because you see, the only way you can remove the freedom fighters from in that tunnel, because the tunnel itself is not just solely carved out of the rock, it is a constructed tunnel as well. In other words, there are areas where there is no, no mountain that they have to construct tunnels and they have, sort of a- what do we call these- well sort of like slats, that you can see into the thing. The only way they could really, do that without destroying at least parts of this tunnel of course is to use chemical warfare. Well, they retook the tunnel and they never, and transit activities never ceased. And so we were claiming that, that the Soviets were already using chemical however costly, we made that analysis ourselves. That the Afghan freedom fighters had been claiming, that the use of gas etc since April of last year. And so April of, excuse me, of 79. So, in January of this year, people in the State Department confirmed. Finally that they felt that it was true, that they did use gas there. So, that's the kind of reports that I have. I think that a lot of others have accepted. We can't of course accept that just because, the freedom fighters tell me that or, or we make these analysis. But I think, many things point to and I think that a lot of other analysts not only from the United States but also from Europe, allude to this particular use of gas and I think, it's difficult to prove things when you have a country that's essentially sealed off, from the media, for the exploration of that. People aren't fortunate as Dave Klein to sort of get in there on the fashion that he did and I commend him for that. I think he's pretty gutsy. Yes. You know I'm somewhat dismayed by this too. You know I, initially of course the Indian government indicated under, Christ it's gone only a few months. I can't remember his name now well. More recent deals are signed, that they felt this was a threat. But they didn't really go too deeply into this because of course they were right in the midst of their, of their political campaign. And Indira was seeking to get back into government in late December or early January. And then of course when she came in, she made a couple of statements too that to me seemed to be, a departure from her approach to the past. And what she was also indicating that maybe there was a difficulty in the future for India. But then since that time, she's gone, you know 180 degrees the other way. And I, I predicted that she would. I don't mean to say that I'm a I'm a great to prophet. That is not the point at all. I guess I was predicting that because I was, fearing or the worst and hoping it wouldn't occur, because I feel that India, probably more than any other country in the world, the opinion of India in this particular situation is more important than, than the opinion of almost any other country in the world with regards to what the Soviet Union might do because of Indian standing, within the third world, within the United Nations. And with the kind of relationship that the Soviet Union is trying to cultivate with India because, of the deterioration of its relationship with China. And I just don't know. I think that India already prefers to have the United States around as a whipping boy, more than just about any other thing that she needs, to resort to when there is a, problem internally that she needs to take attention away from. And I am a bit flabbergasted 'cause I think that, if Pakistan would fall or it would become, a totally enactical. A situation there, that India was bound to suffer because India cannot divorce itself from the, religious and ethnic dynamics of that part of South Asia. You know perhaps the greatest tragedy in that part of the world is there ever was a Pakistan. Or that there ever was a Bangladesh, that those individuals who were the disciples of Maha- of Gandhi were unable, because of their own egos or other problems that are brought upon by the British presence there prior to that. Unable to keep that whole place together because it only has encouraged I think, continuing such a disintegration on the society. I think that no any reasonable individual would have to, really wonder what the heck Indira is doing there. Because, she's sort of broken off her initiative to China which I thought might, bring about, a move away from this sort of dependence upon the Soviet Union that she seems to have, involved herself in right there. Can we try somebody else who hasn't had a chance to but if there isn't somebody else now. Yes. Well the question is that, I indicated that the real crisis in Iran would come after the resolution of the hostage issue. And by saying that I didn't mean in any way to diminish the tragedy or the, importance to that particular situation. In fact the, the man Bruce Laingen who is the head of our mission, or what was our mission to Iran is a very close personal friend of mine. Individual whom I knew from Afghanistan, we both served there expected corresponding times. So, but I feel that if you take a look at Iran. In much the way I describe the situation in Pakistan, and if it just for pictures sake in your mind, construct a box, a square, and you take the, each corner of that square, and you take let's say the one on the upper right, upper left-hand corner. And you consider that most of the people living in that particular part of Iran are Turks of course, and that there are Sunnis are not Shahs. And then you go down to the lower left hand corner and you consider that most of the people that particular part of the country, are Arabs and are a number of whom are Sunnis but they're Arabs and not Iranians And then you go over to the lower right-hand corner and you recognize that most of those are Sunni Baluchis. I need you to go up into the upper right-hand corner and you recognize that most of those are Turkmens. And then you recognize it in the center of what's left. Those were the Iranians aren't even enough. There are pockets of, of groups that have been seeking autonomy, or certain autonomous progressives in the past. The Lurs, the Bakhtiaris and things of this nature, Qashqai. So, you have in that country a, a situation where under the Shah, through the maintenance of whatever kind of, of presence that his military has there at least, some, stability whether it was at a great sacrifice in human rights or not is a matter I suppose it will go on for debate for a long time. But in any case, it was a country that was not at that time, be set by autonomous movements. Those feelings may have been there but the movements weren't. And so it's, I think what we see right now in Iran is a situation where the government, well what is the government first of all? And then, you know beyond the Ayatollah, which is the other element I think which is helping to hold the country together obviously. That in the sort of the hostage issue, the external threat that maybe is posed by the hostage issue or at least in the minds of people is because of it. Once those particular things are removed, I wonder what it is that's gonna hold Iran together. I mean I already have great doubts that it will be able to, because it will have a a military that has essentially disintegrated. And most of the political, and our social institutions have gone through tremendous change, to the point where they're, in many ways at the lowest. At a lower stage of development than maybe they were, back in 1950. And so I think that that's the real potential for crisis. And I think that quite frankly that the Soviet Union is in an excellent position, to take advantage of that particular situation if indeed it develops the way it is. So that's- Yes.\r\n\r\n- What are your thoughts on America's foreign policies\r\n\r\n- Once the hostages are released? Listen, I think quite frankly that we ought to try, to find ways to, seek the motivation or the moving of our interests in parallel lines with the Iranians. That may not be possible. If for example Bonnie Shazad does emerge as, as the power in the government. I think it will be possible. If Mr. Rajer E, a man who, the prime minister who Walter Cronkite's the father of our country calls vagi Rajoy E. If he was you know, if he emerges then I don't think it will be possible because there won't be the institutions there that, that will probably make possible the conducting of normal diplomatic considerations. One might suggest that we support some kind of coup or something of that nature. I think that really a, that might be a very, it's at least fraught with tremendous, with more risks than not. I think the Iranians need to try and develop their own future for themselves so that they do not feel that the United States is the, the element within their history that is dictating the way they go. I think quite frankly the United States did not have as much, over all in a lot of what they say happened in their country. As you know we are told because I think that one has to remember that Iranians, in the finer analysis that, yes our support made certain things possible but the Iranians themselves are the ones that made the decision and the Shah himself too. Too and his people who work for him. I already believe very, very strongly about that. Yes. Well, thank you for asking because I almost forgot. Wherever I speak I'm always asked about what is being done about the Afghan refugees. And there are more than a million of them in Pakistan. And there is a national organization that has been created called The Afghanistan Relief Committee whose address is right there. If you're interested in making contributions to, to this particular organization which is tax-free and, by the way which has seven senators on it's board of directors. And I think six congressmen, and James Exon and Lowell Thomas, and people like that and myself, that you might want to direct your, your support in that direction. The money goes to the Afghan refugees in Pakistan. Or if you feel that you don't have money to give to that then you might write to your Congressman, to support the, the commitments made in Congress, for assistance to the Afghan refugees. Now when I talk about the Afghan refugees here, I'm talking about situations, a bit apart from the Afghan freedom fighters although, I suspect that a number of the refugees who are in Pakistan make the trip back and forth across the border. But in any case we're talking primarily about families of people like this. We've had a large number of refugees come to the United States, not anything in the total of the South East Asians or the Cubans. We have 80 Afghans living in Omaha, they've come through Afghanistan escaping the most incredible circumstances. There's one man, came with his seven children and his wife. After three days of walking and sneaking and, a family that was with them, three of its members were shot down by Soviet, helicopter gunships as they were trying to go across. Just prior to the time that he got to the Pakistan border. So I've lost a great number of my friends, who had been in previous governments or who, who were not in governments but were sympathetic to maybe the freedom fighters and, they've either disappeared or they have been executed. And so a lot of Afghans, I think even more Afghans as the, the genocide in Afghanistan increases will be seeking to escape across the border, into Pakistan and maybe also into Iran. So I thank you for asking me about that because, I think that needs some attention. Obviously. Yes Young. Okay, I see two more questions. I'll take two more okay? And then if, and then if you don't prohibit me I'll stay around while others leave. Okay, Young you're first. Since you're younger than- Only by virtue of his name, his name is Young. Okay go on. I see something developing they're sort of like incentives residents in the embassy in, in Budapest ah. We have to gain really quite frankly. I think is what the freedom fighters might gain out of this. In other words, whether it happens again is that Afghanistan after moving to sort the back pages of the news, is it comes to front pages again. And you know the Afghan, there's a Soviet military presence in Afghanistan has again, gained attention. And so I think that's the greatest gain. I think also, the fact that the man has asked for asylum and his life is probably in danger, and sort of compels us. Forces us really to recognize his particular situation to provide for him now. I'm of course very familiar with the American embassy in Kabul. And as you've read, the American embassy has been surrounded by Afghan, police and security people. And I think people within the embassy are concerned about their security. I am too. It's a rather vulnerable place. It just has an iron, you know pipe kind of fence around it. And there are no, there just a few Marines that are guarding the embassy like in most embassies around the world so, I think it's fraught with some danger but I think it's something that, again it's a matter of, of principle I feel. And I feel you know that as melodramatic as that sounds these days, in our cynical world I think we need to stand to some of those things. And I think that this individual's life is in danger. We need to do something about it. I think it also would help a situation that would help us. So in our self-interest, and the interest of the Afghans, and of course in the interest of this individual's life I think, we should continue to, to stand first on that particular issue. Yeah, you again. Well, here we have a guy who you know, managed to just 2 1/2 or 3 weeks ago to, conduct a campaign, on his own behalf in which he had the issue essentially at the time, focused on the individual whom he was opposing Carter. And by his statements with regards to Taiwan and China of course he turned it all around and then he became, the individual Reagan became an issue. It was his capacity to, to you know speak with any degree of, of rationale on major issues. He created an issue out of one that didn't exist before. And an issue that is very derisive for him. And, my particular feeling is that, I know it's sort of a Sheik these days to say, well, we're confronted with situations in which, you know none of it's good. And none of the choices you know, are the only ones that I want and none of the above or something of this nature. I don't know, I have strong personal feelings, and above these things. I know one thing that I worked with Jimmy Carter in 1976 in Council Bluffs, living in Omaha. And I feel very much like the proverbial woman scorned. And hell has no fury like that woman scorned. And I feel, in many ways not just, in terms of foreign policy, that we have been let down tremendously by an individual who I just don't think has the capacity. In my opinion, the capacity to administer a government. I think it's unfortunate. I don't know that Reagan or Anderson had, you know either one of those two have the capacity either. I don't think that we're really, given much of a choice obviously. I don't know that any of the candidates, in any of the primaries were really, that I thought of all of the people running, that the individual had the most, knowledge of things international as George Bush. But I don't know that I would have sided with some of his domestic stands. And I think it's very important however for us to have an individual who has a global understanding and perspective of thought. Bush by virtue of his experience in, with the CIA, with the United Nations, with China, as closely approximately than any individual. I just sort of feel betrayed really by, by a situation which I supported and, have found to be wholly inadequate. And it's very, it's very disappointing to me. My own experiences were such during this last year that I came, into very close contact with the highest levels of that government except for the president himself. And I was very disappointed when one of these individuals, I won't give his name here but let me tell you it's just a very highest level of foreign policy, that consideration asked me whether or not I thought that the Afghanistan situation was going to be the Soviet Union's Vietnam. I said that I thought that, I said I was flabbergasted that he would even suggest such a thing. The individual who was, you know, at least amongst the very most prominent person in the formulation of our foreign policy. In Vietnam, we did not share a border. That was that a country like the Soviet Union does with Afghanistan. In Vietnam we had to be concerned about public opinion. I don't really see right now whether that's, a great concern of the Soviet system. And of course in Vietnam the most important thing there were three powers involved, China, the Soviet Union and the United States. As yet the United States really has involved itself in anyway. In which the Soviet Union involved itself in, in the Vietnam, situation. So I saw one of these individuals and this was a real shock to me when he was talking about the Muslim minority of Afghanistan who opposed the government of Hafizullah Amin. Well the Muslim minority is 99.9% of the population. I don't know how many you have to have to be a majority. And it just shows you the lack of understanding that this particular individual who is a lawyer, and who is now in a very prominent position that's been the formulating of our foreign policy. You know how much he understood things while he was probably getting information from some person, now because he was having to react to a situation. He really didn't have the information. And he was out spouting things as he remembered them from the top of his head and he didn't do a very good job. So, I already believed that our foreign policy that our foreign service by the way is, is one of the best bureaucracies and most touted bureaucracies we have. But you see a, little that goes on with our foreign policy, utilizes this resource. Our foreign policy is conducted, by getting input from people like, Hamilton Jordan, who I still does not know how to pronounce his name correctly. I saw a bumper sticker the other day, which said Hamilton Jordan is a jerk. Lloyd Cutler, who's a lawyer. Roslyn Carter, and then previously was Cyrus Vance. And this guy, what the heck does- The under secretary. Jordan Walter Christopher. These individuals and, none of whom have had any real experience. The closest to come across is the, is the Professor Brzezinski. And although I come from a university campus and I know that this is blasphemy, to say such a thing in front of a university based audience. I really don't think that, university professor should be Secretaries of State. I think that they should have, a prominent role in making it in advising. or being national security chiefs. I think that, one of the best examples of this was Henry Kissinger. He did some very interesting things. He had a lot of what I would call headline successes. But we have to remember that he did not leave us with much of a foreign policy. He left us with a couple of things that, to me are very disastrous. One of his, biggest movements in terms of development of foreign policy was something called GLOP. G-L-O-P, it's an acronym. It means, it's an acronym for Global Placement. And as a result of this particular policy which he initiated, we have individuals who are trained in South Asian studies, serving in Latin America, and vice versa all the way around the world. And you know, that's not the way to develop. Why did he do that? Well because he was not a man who understood administration. He didn't know how to, he ran into considerable opposition with the, some of the policies that he was seeking to develop in the Persian Gulf, and elsewhere and so he fired those ambassadors. Individuals by the way a couple of whom I know. And he decided since he wasn't able to, get them to come up with the kinds of advisor, or be the kind of resource I think that he wanted to fit into his doctoral dissertation, view of what the world should be, that he thought that the GLOP was the best approach. Which means that he didn't use the State Department after that at all. He made his decisions at the very highest level. And I think you know, that's a very dangerous thing. I'm saying this by the way because I've been saying a lot of things against the Carter administration. I want you to know that, I wish a plague on both their houses, and that I feel that basically they conducting a foreign policy unfortunately, within the last decade and even before that, and possibly since Dean Acheson has been, a rather amateurish enterprise when you consider the continuity, that countries like the Soviet Union, or France or others have had in their, conducting of foreign policy. They're not always successful. But at least the continuity, so that people understood what was going on. And so that there was an able, they were able to develop a category of, of real professionals in the foreign service. I don't think we've had that unfortunate. I think it's unfortunate 'cause I think we really have some very talented people in that foreign service. A very small bureaucracy, compared to sleeking as for any individual who has any managerial talent whatsoever. He should be able to use that to his advantage, and use people like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski and others, to come in with advice on certain concepts that maybe that would be appropriately studied in order to offer some kinds of positions that might be doubled as advocate position or something of that nature but, I really wonder if it's, intelligent for us to conduct foreign policy by bringing in people, every four years who, first, whose initial steps in the conducting a foreign policy seemed to be, to distance themselves as much as possible from what the previous four years were. You know how we've always been that, full of mistakes every four years that we need to just turn things around so much. The continuity is a little, little weak. Okay.\r\n\r\n- Now that I'm afraid we're gonna have to break here.\r\n\r\n- Thank you all for coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45492/file/118451#t=0.0,1801.44"}]}]}]}