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Those in the front queues are the purest so move up. To welcome you to the 28th Paul Errington Memorial Lecture, my name is Jim Pearce, I'm a faculty member in the Department Of Animal Ecology who annually sponsors this lecture. One of the sponsors of this lecture. Paul Errington was born in 1902 in South Dakota. He received his PHD from University Of Wisconsin in 1932 and joined this department, the Department Of Animal Ecology here at Iowa state, where he remained for the remainder of his distinguished career. Paul married Carolyn Storm in 1935, 34, excuse me. And distinguished his life with a number of excellent works in population biology particularly in muskrats and mink and was well, well known for his strengths in the field. This lecture series is to honor Dr Errington as a naturalist in the best sense of the term. In 1961, Life Magazine featured Paul Errington as one of the ten outstanding naturalists of North America and he was not only an expert in the field but also an expert in evaluating the various forces that nature brings to bare upon populations of animals. Paul, he passed along a, very much a priceless heritage of conservation wisdom and insight and set a standard, I think, for this department for many decades. We have with us tonight, once again, his wife, Carolyn. Carolyn, would you stand and be recognized please. Carolyn has seen to it that not only is Paul Errington Memorial Lecture Fund continued every year, but she also sees fit to entertain our speaker each year. And we had a delightful lunch today with Dr. Jackson. This particular lecture, as I say, is the 28th. It began in 1964 and we have brought to this campus, a wide variety of people that are very distinguished in the field of conservation and ecology. We're pleased this year to have Dr. Wes Jackson with us. Bringing people to the campus requires a number of different participants. We want to acknowledge tonight the people who have helped make this possible. Certainly, the Department Of Animal Ecology is grateful to the committee on lectures who helped co-sponsor Dr. Jackson's trip. The Paul Errington Memorial Lecture Fund, The Leopold Center For Sustainable Agriculture, The Departments of Agronomy and Philosophy and the Environmental Studies Program, The Fisheries and Wildlife Biology Club and also The Center For Ag and Rural Development, here on campus. All of those departments provided financial support to bring back Dr. Jackson here to campus. Wes Jackson was born in 1936 on a farm near Topeka, Kansas and he has formal degrees in bachelors in botany from Kansas, Wesleyan in 1958, a masters in botany from The University Of Kansas in 1960 and a PHD in genetics from North Carolina State University in 1967. Before he founded the Land Institute in Salina, Kansas in 1976, he served as a high-school biology teacher on the front lines as it were. He was a professor at Kansas, Wesleyan and in 1973, became the first director of the Center For Primal Studies at California State University in Sacramento. At the founding of the Land Institute in 1976, he began, not only a change in direction in his personal life but most certainly in his professional life. Giving up the relative security, if you would call it that these days, of the university environment to strike out on his own, to solve some problems in ecology and agriculture in some rather novel ways. He has received a number of awards and honors for his work and you can see some of those listed in your program. We're very pleased to have with us tonight, Dr. Wes Jackson.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. Well it's indeed a pleasure to be back to Iowa state. I was mentioning this afternoon in a seminar that in a way, Iowa state is an alma mater of mine. I spent a summer here, working with Dr. Dwayne Isly in botany where I revised, did the work for the revision of the phalloides section of . And that brought me national recognition right away. I never had any trouble since. But it was a wonderful time that I was here and it was wonderful to have such a mentor as Dr Isly. I'm also greatly honored to be a part of this Errington lecture and to know Mrs. Errington and to think of what it means to live in a culture that has such richness due to individuals who have allowed, maybe not a thousand lights to shine, but one or two important lights to shine here and there. So I'm glad to be back again as alma mater, to by alma mater of sort. I have chosen as a topic, something I'm thinking about these days and usually that which I'm thinking about in these days has a fair amount of half baked thinking. And so, I make myself vulnerable to you, the audience and I do because I think the university tradition is one in which in the past, we were willing to make ourselves vulnerable to one another. It's become so it's not so much that way anymore but it seems to me that the risk, that informed risk is what we need to be doing these days in thinking through this experiment on this continent. There was a time in which things were pretty well settled. At the time that the Ptolemy's system of the universe was well understood. There were anomalies that kept piling up but from the point of view of those living at the time of the Ptolemy's system when the earth was at the center of everything, those anomalies could be taken care of with some calculations, some fudge factors that would make the whole system seem coherent. But the anomalies kept piling up and the mathematicians had to keep working away to patch the thing up. And finally, comes along a Copernicus, who says, \"It is a matter of a perception that the earth is at the center of things and everything else is going around the earth. In fact, the reality is that the sun is at the middle and the planets are going around it and it's because of our position on the earth that it appears otherwise.\" Now that did more than simply take the human or the earth out of the center of the universe, it taught us a very important thing that has become one of the foundations of science. And that is the difference between appearance and reality. And Galileo, nearly a hundred years later, further substantiating Copernicus' notion, \"Try to get the churchman to look through the telescope and confirm what had been postulated.\" And the churchman refused to look through the telescope. And we look back on that era as a time in which those narrow minded ancestors of ours refused to look through the telescope of Galileo and in which the church, for 200 years, refused to allow the people to read what Galileo had had to say. It was 200 years before there was a taking it all back. And we think, how narrow, how narrow those folks were. And there were those at a times, just as a little digression here, I feel these coming on now and then. In which there were people who debated, how many angels could dance on the head of a pen. And we thought, \"How quaint those folks were.\" And now, we have those folks that are wanting to create the ultimate wreck where there gonna have the super collider, you know, that is going to send these atoms in opposite directions and slam into one another at twice the speed of light in order to get some idea of how small things could get. Angels dancing on the head of a pen. So in a certain sense, was hardwired for certain ways of thinking and we seem not to let go of some of those ways of thinking. Well, Galileo finally had his way and Newton followed and we have, of course, in there about 1600's, Francis Bacon and Rene Descartes and we have eventually coming out, all of it, a scientific revolution. And we still have with us the legacy of the importance of making a distinction between the apparent and the real and we still don't seem to be very good at acting on reality. So with that in mind, I wanna talk just a little bit about some of the modern problems that are apparent. We think we have some problems that are apparent and we think that there are some apparent causes but I'm going to submit that there are some real causes that have to do with our thinking that stand behind a good many of these apparent problems. Well, one of the perhaps the most apparent problem that we of the developed world like to talk about is the problem of overpopulation. Because that's off somewhere else. That's in Mexico, it's in Africa, it's in Asia and so on. And it's real. In the decade of the 90's alone, the earth is scheduled to add 1 billion people. That's twice the number of people being added in a decade that was here at the time of Columbus, period. There is a problem that we might call a resource depletion problem and when we think of that, we usually think of oil. I don't think we outta think of phosphorus II, phosphate II. But for a moment, let's think of oil and the US Geological Survey says that we have 33 years of proven reserves for the world and perhaps 20 years of unproven reserves. If we were to use only our oil, we would have about a four year supply. And so, and that's at the current rate of use. We have, we've had the problem of two rather serious nuclear accidents. The one in particular at Chernobyl, where over an area of a thousand square miles, the Soviets saw that one time, there were gonna have to burn down the forest. I guess to get in with front end loaders and dump trucks in order to take it away out of a particular watershed, 27 thousand villages. The people will never go home to. At least, according to the former Soviet Union, Pripyat had 50 thousand people. And the people that drive by there now, I guess it's become something of a tourist place. McDonald's will be sticking something up there I imagine. But the shatters bang, the asparagus pops through, It doesn't get cut, the trees bloom, set fruit and nothing happens. It's become a kind of a ghost area. Well, we are now coming to terms with probably the fact. That if we are to opt for nuclear power, that we're going to have to repeal Murphy's law. For it seems rather amazing that we've had to wait so long before we decided that Murphy's law will have to be repealed and my bet is that neither the Democrats or the Republicans are going to take measures to repeal it. But nevertheless, that is a problem and we will probably simply let it go and hope that it takes care of itself someway. Well, of course, there's also national debt. I have great authority on this one. I like to get to the very best people when I get information. Lei Lacocca says that if we were to take all of the federal tax money collected from west of the Mississippi river, that's the amount of money that's necessary now to pay the interest on the national debt. That's this year and next year and next year. And so, presumably, it's going to work it's way meridian by meridian eastwards until only Maine is buying anything. But then, I have a solution for that problem. We just disband the United States, why not? Be like you owning me $10,000 and you die. So what's been lost? Well, I realized these are simplistic solutions but that's what us environmentalists are used to coming up with. At least that's what we're told. Some economist tell me it is something that is real and that if there is not a paying of that, there is going to be hell to pay. The former president of Costa Rica told a gathering of us a couple weeks ago that the developed world should forgive the third world debt. Apparently, the interest is now two times what the principle was. And that they've already paid back the principle. But if that happens, there will be, according to the Wall street people, serious dislocations. And I'm still trying to understand what that is a euphemism for. Well these are all apparent problems. There's the problem of soil erosion which it worries me, particularly about Iowa. I hate to see Iowa wash away. Texas, that's another matter. But Iowa, to see Iowa wash away will be a very sad thing. And yet, I understand that in western Iowa, we're loosing 18 tones of soil per acre per year. And it's happening on some pretty fine corn ground. Well, of course, it isn't just Iowa, the Palouse had something like 200 tones per acre per year, a few years ago, I don't know what it's been lately. I met at the university in Maine and told me that potato ground is loosing a hundred tones of soil per acre per year. So the point is that soil erosion seems here to stay. That is as long as we have any. And then there's the chemical contamination of the countryside. I mentioned this afternoon that this turns out to be one of the great failures of the evolutionary biologist. If there is anything that we should have learned from the Darwinian world view, it is that you don't introduce chemicals into the environment that our tissues have no evolutionary experience with without first regarding them guilty until proven innocent. And yet we have plunged forward with this. It's very interesting that we have all this hoopla about how to be careful about industrial pollution and then we promote the chemical contamination of the countryside. Now there's some rather important reasons that stand behind all of this, of course. I wrote an essay that was published in a magazine for photography, Aperture I believe it was. The essay was entitled, Wilderness The Saint. And what I was trying to point out in that paper was that, you know how you can go into a church and there's a saint that has special stuff on. And that if you pray to that saint, light a candle and so on, you can go in peace and think, \"Well that's covered.\" And you can just go on as before. Now, that of course is not what the intent was. In a similar manner though, we can go into a cathedral, not a cathedral but a wilderness cathedral and we can have a high spiritual uplift, backpack maybe for two weeks in the mountains or so, come out all refreshed, send money to the Wilderness Society or the Sierra Club or The Friends Of The Earth and spread atrazine all over Iowa. The wilderness is sacred, Iowa is secular. And it's either the whole thing is holy or it isn't. But here we have this kind of dichotomy. And this then begins to suggest the problem. It suggests the problem of division. The problem of subject, object. The subject, object dualism and so on. Well, there may be global warming. I suspect there is such a thing as global warming. The global modelers tell us there's global warming. I tend not to trust anybody that presumes to be able to model the globe. They are what we would call the ultimate lumpers in taxonomy. But there is a place, I guess, for the lumper. It's a way of accommodating no nothing ism. The nevertheless, there is a presumption that there is a global warming and not taking it seriously, I guess, Shell Oil Company is increasing the height of a platform in the North Sea by 1 meter at a cost of 30 million dollars because this platform that they're building now is expected to have a life of some 70 years. Well, and then of course, there is the ozone hole. At 25 years ago, chlorofluorocarbons would have been on essentially every chemist shortlist. Non-toxic, non-corrosive, non-polluting, did a lot of wonderful things and there they are. John Cobb, the philosopher at Claremont tells me that children, he visited Australia, children, some children in Australia are now wearing sunglasses. And that their estimates on what the increase in skin cancer is going to be. And so here we have all of these apparent problems which stand before us and somehow another, we seem to be unable to come to terms with the philosophical assumptions that stand behind those problems. And I'll suggest, for one, reality that stands behind it. It has to do with Decart's statement which appears in his discourse on method. Decart says that the more he sought to inform himself, the more he realized how ignorant he was. But rather than regard that as an app description of the human condition, were ignorant, and the very proper result of a good education, they were ignorant, Decart thought our ignorance was correctable. And so we have a knowledge based world view. They believed that our knowledge is adequate to run the world. And so acid rain comes out of a knowledge based world view. That is the commitment to coal fired plants has to be based on the assumption that we know what we're doing and if there's a problem, we can patch it up. A global warming comes out of a knowledge based world view. A Chernobyl comes out of a knowledge based world view. This is the basis of the industrial mind. That our knowledge is adequate to run the world. And yet we know, when we think about it just a little bit, that we're billions of time more ignorant than knowledgeable. So why not an ignorance based world view? That is to start with the assumption, having been raised as a good Methodist, I start with the assumption that we're stupid, we're wicked and we're sloppy. And that's just ordinary proof. I'd like to start with that assumption. Now from there, you work your way up to some kind of modern, some sort of medium level of deliverance. But by in large, the Methodists assume that they're not gonna win. Some people live with their sins and some die with them. And the Methodists do both. But they, to start with the assumption that we're billions of times more ignorant than knowledgeable, think of what that does paradoxically. Paradoxically, it forces us to remember things, to hope for second chances and to keep the scale small so you can back out. It teaches you to study the exits. To study the exits. And if we were to start with that assumption, if we had started with that assumption, it's likely we would not have had the Industrial Revolution as such. But now that the bills for the Industrial Revolution are coming due, we see that we've gone too far, too fast, too heedlessly. Well, I wanna talk just a little bit about some more of those, what stands behind this Industrial Revolution. And eventually, I warmed my topic, long about 10 o'clock, I'll get to the upshot of this lecture. But for the moment, for another hour, I do like to carry on with senile rapture. Wendell Berry has written an essay entitled, Two Economies. It's in his book, Home Economics. And he says that when the wheels of the Industrial Revolution began to revolve, they turned against nature. In the minds of those early people, the human, everything that the human was nature and the assumption must have been that nature was passively subject to human purpose. Now, Wendell goes on to say that what we turn against, turns against us. Blake foresaw this, William Blake foresaw this. If you take the word control, it's root meaning is to roll against. Blake talked about the satanic wheels, the satanic mills. He talked about wheel without wheel. Which meant wheel outside of wheel. Kinda like two cogwheels where you have two cogwheels turning and for them to turn, they must turn in opposition. Now, this is acceptable enough as a mechanism. But it becomes a ruling metaphor. But, as Wendell Berry points out, when it becomes a ruling metaphor and is used to describe and to organize fundamental relationships, then we have a problem. Now, against the satanic, wheel without wheel, Blake set the wheels of Eden, which wheel within wheel, in freedom revolve. In other words, if you have a wheel inside of a wheel turning it for, both of them have to be turning in the same direction. And this gets us back the relation of these wheels is not mechanical. As we know from Ezekiel 1:21 where quote, and remember, Ezekiel is having this vision, \"The spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.\" In other words, the processes of nature fundamentally involve the wheels within wheels turning in harmony. And when the wheels were sat were outside, they were forced to turn against. And this characterized the Industrial Revolution. So Wendell, in that essay, continues by saying, \"Our economy is a little wheel turning in opposition to what we call nature. We then set up competitiveness as the ruling principle in our explanation of reality. And in our understanding of economy. We make of it,\" he says, \"willy nilly a virtue. But competitiveness as a ruling principle and a virtue imposes a logic that is extremely difficult, perhaps impossible to control. That logic,\" Wendell says, \"explains why our cars and our clothes are shaddowly made, why our wastes are toxic and why our defensive weapons are suicidal. It explains why it is so difficult for us to draw a line between free enterprise and crime. In our economic ideal, if our economic ideal is maximum profit with minimum responsibility, why should we be surprised to find out corporations so frequently in court and robbery on the increase? Why should we be surprised to find that medicine has become an exploitative industry? Profitable in direct proportion to its hurry and its mechanical indifference.\" And Wendell continues, \"If on the other hand, we see ourselves as living within the great economy, natures economy, under the necessity of making our little human economy within it according to its terms, the smaller wheel turning in sympathy with the greater, the smaller wheel meaning our economy, receiving its being and its motion from it, then we see that the traditional virtues are necessary and are practically justifiable.\" Well, we're now at that point in history where we have coined the term, sustainable agriculture. It's a value term, like honesty, truth, justice. A term whose definition must be protected. I've had people say to me, \"Now just give me a definition of sustainable agriculture.\" And I'd finally become weary and said, \"Okay, give me a definition of justice. And then give me, then tell me to what extent do you think we succeed in exercising justice.\" Somebody with a $300 car runs an intersection and runs into a Mercedes Benz that cost twenty something thousand dollars and the person with the little car and small income pays, is that justice? Well, the point is though, regardless of how difficult it is for justice to be working out perfectly, we've organized society around that concept. I mean, after all, we're a nation. 5% of the people have 70% of the lawyers of the world. We must be interested in justice. That's just a known truth I think. I've realized there's some other contingencies there that could stimulate some debate but the point is that here we have this concept of sustainable agriculture that's a value term and a term whose definition must be protected. It should be protected by those that brought it in to the cognitive realm. But we should remember that just at the point when we develop language describing virtue, the language describing virtue usually comes at the time the virtue is lost. Lao Tzu talked about appearance as a virtue. Lao Tzu said this, \"When people lost sight of the way to live, came codes of love and honesty. Loose sight of the way to live, then you get a code for love and honesty. When difference weakens family ties, when difference weakens family ties, came benevolent fathers and dutiful sons. And when lands were disrupted and misgoverned, then you get ministers commended as loyal. Virtue comes when there's a loss of it. Cognition of virtue comes with the loss of the virtue.\" This is probably, well, I'll stay away from Matthew 6 because you know, you can quote Lao Tzu and the Greeks, they're all right, but you quote the bible and your a religious fundamental so I'll just stay away from Matthew 6, you look it up. If any of you have checked that lately, it has to do with the appearances, preserving the appearances. Well, what do we do? We can simply pant and say we're lost or we could keep hacking a way at the problems that we're now confronted with, the problems that involve, that are apparent, lay there, is all of certain things or we can turn back and say, \"Now wait a minute, what has been going wrong here?\" We have been operating under the assumption that human knowledge is adequate to run the world and we're going to predicate the future exercises in extricating ourselves from this based on human intellect, based on what is piled up in the libraries and so on. Now, please, I'm not for a moment saying, we shouldn't pursue knowledge, rather I am saying, let's acknowledge that knowledge is inadequate and let's turn to what has been working for hundreds of millions of years. And that is nature, the natural ecosystems that have featured the recycling of all materials and have run on sunlight. In other words, here we are, deeply embedded in the extractive economy. We're fossil fuels dependent, we're dependent upon natural gas, we're dependent upon coal, we are living out of the past. We're living on the failure of breakdown of living organism in the past, running on the oxygen that accumulated and we seem to be bent on reversing that process. What do we, what can we do to move away from that extractive economy? Is it possible for us to reverse an economic system that came in to being with the assumption that resources were infinite or if not infinite, there was infinite substitutability. That's the definition, those are the underlying assumptions of modern capitalism. And yet, if we look at the economy of nature, that economy is based on the, if there was a mindedness to it, the assumption that these materials turn over in any system in which they didn't turn over became extinct and it has to run on sunlight. Now, nature then would become our reference point. And we would then repudiate the dominating dogma that has come out of the legacy of Bacon and Decart. Bacon said explicitly, \"We must bend nature to our will.\" And Decart says, \"Yes, and the way you do that is.\" This is a free translation. \"The way you do that is place priority on the parts of things over the whole without acknowledging that there is an inner penetration between part and whole. Whole influences part, part influences whole. Now, the modern Baconian Cartesian scientific paradigm is based on the, carries with it the assumption that the world is like that method. Well, what we all know is that as we go up that hierarchy of structure from atoms to molecules to cells to tissues to organs to organ systems to organisms to ecosystems, going up that hierarchy of structure at each one of the levels, there are emerging qualities. That is qualities that build up that are not predictable based on the properties of the lower units. P W Anderson had a wonderful paper in 1972 entitled More Is Different. P W Anderson was at the Bell labs at that time and he since got a Nobel price. He talked about how the ammonium molecule has the ability to turn itself inside out, I guess it's called tunneling. And he challenged any physicist to be able to predict based on the properties of the atom going into it that that emergent property, emergent quality of tunneling would have been predictable. You get to it after the facts, you can work at it backwards. All right, so here we have this world view of Bacon and Decart in the placement of priority on part over whole and the assumption that the world is like the method. And on the other hand, because we know of this interpenetration between part and whole, even though we know, I should say, even though we know about this interpenetration between part and whole, we don't develop the methodology for organizing our science around it. And it seems to me that this has got to be the challenge for the universities, particularly the scientist but people all through the university to begin to think about how we come to terms with that reality. But now this idea of nature as a standard or nature as the measure. As Wendell Berry has pointed out, this is in another paper, goes back at least 2000 years before Jesus of Nazareth. Job said, he cited Job who said, \"Ask now the bees and they shall teach thee and the fowls of the air and they shall tell thee or speak to the earth and it shall teach thee and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.\" Then there is Virgil, who at the beginning of the Georgix. Now this is in from 36 to 29 BC, Virgil informs us that before we plow an unfamiliar patch, it is well to be informed about the winds. I wish the people that plowed the great planes had heard that. We wouldn't have had the dust bowl. Before we plow an unfamiliar patch, it is well to be informed about the winds about the variations in the sky, the native traits and habits of the place, what each locale permits and what denies. Now Wendell's historical recollection included the writing of Edmund Spenser who toured the end of the 1500's, calls nature the equal mother of all creatures who knittest each to each as brother unto brother. And we get verification of that in this modern world of molecular biology when we know we're all made of the same 20 amino-acids, whether we're a redwood or a whale or an osprey or a homo-sapien, the same 20 amino-acids, the same 4 nucleic acid bases. Spenser says, \"Nature, the equal mother of all creatures who knit us each to each as brother unto brother.\" Now Spenser also saw nature as the instructor of creatures and the ultimate earthly judge of their behavior. Wendell went on to say that in Shakespeare's As You Like It, Shakespeare has the forest in the role of teacher and judge. And Milton in as the ladies say, she, meaning nature, good caterers, means her provision only to the good that live according to her sober laws, means her provision only to the good that live according to her sober laws and wholly dictate of spare temperance. And finally, Alexander Pope, in his epistle to Burlington counseled gardeners to quote, \"Let nature never be forgot and consult the genius of the place in all.\" Now, I'm not a student of literature but Wendell Berry says that this theme departs from English poetry, this idea of nature as a major standard, it departs from English poetry after Pope, with the latter poets seeing nature and humans radically divided. 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this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1906.305,1911.305"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now it's in the exponential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1911.45,1913.063"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's predicted that soon the ozone 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So they say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1921.05,1925.583"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So think of these steep slopes these curves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1927.21,1932.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I read this poem by Gary Snyder for the 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pastures,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1957.85,1961.348"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we can meet there in peace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1961.348,1964.053"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Decline these coming crests one word to you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1965.08,1968.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to you and your children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=1968.91,1970.443"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27141/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Stay 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506/transcript/27142/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- [Lecturer] But after this after Pope it goes underground and the next time it surfaces is, is among the scientists Liberty Hyde Bailey in 1905 wrote a book entitled The outlook To Nature. The grand old Cornell Dean described nature as the norm. And Bailey said, If nature is the norm, then the necessity for correcting and amending the abuses of civilization become boldly apparent by very contrast. And he continues, the return to nature affords the very means of acquiring the incentive and energy for ambitious and constructive work have a high order. That's Bailey in 1905 saying that later in 1915, Bailey's the holy Earth was published. And here Bailey advances the notion that a good part of agriculture is to learn how to adapt one's work to nature. To live in right relation with his natural conditions, is one of the first lessons that a wise farmer or anyone any other wise man learn. Well, that was Bailey, sir Albert Howard published an agricultural Testament in 1940. And he called the forest look to the forest on how to farm he says, For nature is the supreme farmer. Howard pointed out that the main characteristic of nature's farming can be summed up in a few words. Mother Earth never attempts to farm without livestock. And she always raises mixed crops. Great pains are taken to preserve the soil and to prevent erosion. The mixed vegetable and animal wastes are converted into humus, there is no waste. The processes of growth and the processes of decay balance one another. Ample provision is made to maintains large reserves of fertility. The greatest care is taken to store the rainfall, both plants and animals are left to protect themselves against disease. Now, before Howard's later writings in 1929, J. Russell Smith street crops was published and he said farming should fit the land. So the question then becomes, how is it that we have the poets who recognize that when the human was up against it, that nature was our best teacher. And a small group of scientists did the same? Did they form a or a series? Wendell Berry says they form a series that is, there was a but it was in the common culture. In other words, these people did not build on one another, the succession was carried along in the common or non formal culture. And then out of that popped up these individuals, the poets and the scientists, forming a series. And so the, the, the challenge for us is to turn that series that is to begin the succession. What we've done historically is deny the validity of this in our very assumptions. We've done that at the Land Institute with trying to develop an agriculture based on the way the prairie works, I won't go into that now, there's some things at the back table that'll tell you how you might get to know about more of that. But I want to illustrate what this can mean with a couple of ways of posing questions. In my book, new roots for agriculture 1980. Before that, in the paper of 78. I asked the question, what will nature require of us? And since that time, I've realized there's a fundamental difference between what will nature require of us and what can we get away with. Too much of modern sustainable agriculture is based on what can we get away with? Another question is what will nature help us do here? Contrast that with what clever manipulations and inventions can we come up with? You see the contrast between the two paradigms? Why don't we begin with what was here? The second wattle nature require of us here. And the third wattle nature help us to do here. those last two, what we have historically said, What can we get away with? And what clever manipulations can we come up with this currently characterizes too much of the Sustainable Agriculture work up today. So, the farmer has to do with an ecological worldview, the ladder has to do with that industrial mind. It's the difference between nature as the major and smart resource management. If you're in the smart resource management, you're in the wrong agenda. Because that then heaps too much upon human cleverness, and assumes too much of our knowledge is adequate. Now here's where I feel pretty confident about all of that. But now I want to talk to you about something that I feel somewhat less confident about. And here I asked the Academy's generosity and sympathy for some wild speculation. If we start with the way a native prairie works, or we could say, a forest, but the way a native prairie works, and look at that, as human as community ecology, and think about that, informing a future agricultural research agenda. In the case of the work of the land, where we have perennials grown in a polyculture the way a prairie does, except we're selecting for high seed yield, to take advantage of the natural integrities inherent within the system. Is it in the cards for us because since that prairie features recycling of materials and running on sunlight, and is community ecology, is it in the cards for us to think about applying those principles to human community? At what point do those principles break down? For after all, within a natural ecosystem community, we're talking about a diversity of species within a human community, a diversity of persons. We know that we're going to have to I think the most exciting field for the next century is going to be accounting. But ecological community accounting. Now, if we were to think about those principles that are work within a natural ecosystem, we have to look to the way bills get paid, and what the metrical devices are for keeping track within that system. We're talking about ecological community behavior. So what I'm calling for, is they bringing into the universities a second major. Right now universities have only one major to offer the student. Its upward mobility, we'll give you upward mobility if you come here, and they've been able to deliver. They've done a wonderful job delivering on upward mobility. What about offering a major in homecoming? I don't mean to necessarily go back to home but go to a place and dig in and begin to educate the young, using the paradigm of ecology to make them the pioneers in the resettling of America. The resettling of the small towns and rural communities not as a matter of mere nostalgia, just to satisfy the Jeffersonian view is some kind of mere nostalgia, but as a practical necessity, because after all, we've got to begin to think how we're going to run the planet on sunlight, and nature's people are going to have to be dispersed across this landscape to do that, we don't dare send them out into the countryside with the mind that the extractive economy. If they do, they will be looking for one way one more way to bring in another industry to give jobs. We've got to go back with the idea of jobs that are of a sustainable nature. I'll tell you about a little project that I'm sort of tentatively trying. In the Flint Hills of Kansas. There is Chase County, it's the county that William Least Heat-Moon wrote the book PrairyErth about and in that town is Matfield green. That in that county is Matfield green. Now 85% prairie. Little over 3000 people in the whole county one stoplight of blinker light, where 177 intersects 50 and 38 people left in Matfield green, and I bought seven houses for less than $4,000 I'm sort of the Donald Trump of Matfield green. Some friends of mine and I bought the school with 10,000 square feet for $5,000. And north of town this is course range country 33 inches of rainfall, though, north of town, there's some old stockyard Santa Fe Railroad had when they used to ship cattle. And south of town is an old booster station. Now, another friend of mine and I bought the 30 acres along with those cattle pins not for not very much money, I'll tell you. He put in 90% I put in 10%. It's what I call leverage. But what if we were on that range to begin to instead of having the domestic bovine come in to those cattle pins, the bison there are semi domesticated bison now you don't have to overwinter the bison with hay. Those bison could be slaughtered right there. And the people in the town could work in this small slaughterhouse as things now stand Iowa beef Packers, which is everywhere but Iowa I think I will do this well, it's a minority. Iowa beef Packers has a kill capacity of about 8 million a year. There's a place in Emporia Kansas and these people are driving some people driving 50 miles to work one way in order to get carpal tunnel syndrome. All right. And also to give the American people a higher incidence of cancer lower bowel. All right now we know that the the domestic bovine is higher in fat. And it probably is higher in fat because it evolved in an agrarian climate when we had to work hard and we needed that fat. But the wild critters don't have as much fat lower in cholesterol and so on. So why should we not begin to bring back to the bison that don't have to be overwintered lower fossil fuel input. You don't put corn in them, which is nutty to have this cattle and pig welfare programme anyway. 88% of all vegetable protein in this country going into that programme its biggest welfare program in the history of the planet and then the cattle and hogs can outbid people from Bangladesh any day. So why not have bison that the people of the town could get the add on value from and at the other end of town where the pumper station is shut down, why would that not be a good place to start assembling panels? So there would be the industrial answer to the extractive economy, to nuclear power and so on. It's not to say there wouldn't be some problems from the processing of the But your ecological community accountant, your homecoming major from Iowa State could go back into a small town or a rural community not to be a blabber mouth to show how much he knows about organizing a community, but to be an ordinary citizen, that was watchful and thoughtful and reflective, and as a member of the community would begin would keep the discussion alive about the extractive economy, but plus the possibilities of a renewable economy carrying his ecological knowledge or her ecological knowledge. Now, as I said, that is that is somewhat the thinking isn't completely thought out there. What are we going to do? What are we going to do, if we don't begin to develop the examples, the good examples that increase the imagination about possibilities. That's what it will mean to become native to this place. So far, we are carrying the mind more like that of the Conqueror, the mind of Columbus, who came as a conqueror, then the mind of the discoverer, we moved into the inner recesses of the atom into the inner recesses of the cell we went for longitude and latitude and altitude, and so on. And what it is, is the colonizing mind, the extracting mind that is at work. We don't know yet what it means to become come home, and we don't know where we are, we're still to a large extent, as lost as Columbus was, we don't know where we are on this place. And that's the beginning of a 500 year journey. To figure out where we are, one of the things we have to do is to begin to welcome back the wild animals in order to know what it would become to be to become native to this place, and our becoming nativeness will become more, the models that we have will be more severely compromised, as we get deeper and deeper into the so called technological revolution. The only way we can move into that technological revolution with the kind of fervor and force that we have is this with the assumption that our knowledge is adequate. And just here last summer, is where I first asked the question, given, it was at a seminar for philosophy of science, and ethics and values, Gary Comstock. Consider how long it took the chemists before they finally came up with a chemical that would destroy ozone. Go back to the vulcanization of rubber in 1880s or when the work on the internal combustion engine was and, and the working with the fuels or you can come to right after World War One, or you can come to 1946 let's say when the polymer era when they strung polymers together. The point is the chemists finally did it. In other words, rather than arguing back and forth all day long, all year long, all decade long. Whether this chemical is safe or that chemical is safe built into the worldview was the inevitability of something that would give us the ozone hole equivalent. Now here's my question. How long will it take the biotechnologists to come up with the ozone hole equivalent? What is the set of assumptions working with the modern biotechnologists that they can safely assure us that the ozone hole equivalent is not in the cards? Because that comes out of the worldview of It does not come out of an ecological worldview. Now, why did I come to community, human community? I come to human community because we're still fundamentally creatures of the upper Paleolithic. we're hardwired to be in the gathering hunting tribe, with rather small numbers of people. And why community works is because of a long evolutionary past. In which, first I'd say community, as civilizations upscaling of the tribe, community works, because because that's where we have spent so much of our evolutionary history community as a mystery and a metaphor, it seems to me is the beginning of a kind of revitalization and a rediscovery. Let me give you a an illustration of I think a convenient way to think of this. You can design a computer to do A, B, C, D, and E. And because it's able to do those functions, that computer can also do j, k, l and m, as a derivative. A human having its evolution, developing the stereoscopic vision of the forest, the upright stance on the savanna develops a neuro physiological anatomical way to walk and move to run. And as a derivative of that, we can ride a bicycle. That's what we riding the bicycle is something we do with ease. Once we learn how to do it, we know how to do it. But that is what I call a second order, or first order derivative of a primary activity. Now, the farther we move away from the first order derivatives, the more complicated things get for us. We did not evolve in nation states. If we had there'd be no such thing as bureaucracy. See, that is that's why we don't do that very well. So why should we look to that thing that is of a fifth order derivative, in us for our solutions? Why not go with our long suit, which is we are creatures that can do things well in small groups in communities, and begin to increase the imagination about possibilities. After all, we know that it is in the small towns and rural communities of America that the seed stock for the American culture was developed and nurtured. And now we're losing that seedstock to the likes of Silicon Valley. And so children are growing up in shopping malls, and and we've developed a Kmart mentality, we got a Kmart patriotism, we got Kmart, religion, instant gratification, cheap, easily accessible, and will let us down when we need it. Now, with that in mind, the homecoming major developed by Iowa State University and Kansas State University, I think you people can do it Kansas can its cause I don't know you people. We always take the best of those that we don't know very well. But if we could begin to come to terms with what we might call this ecological worldview, and it's not that there's a total repudiation of reductionism, it's that it does not become our leading thrust or leading metaphor. It's just that there's not a total repudiation of biotechnology, but not lead. You see, it's we're talking about a cultural landscape here that allows us to use our own heads instead of somebody else using our heads for us. Well, I had intended to be done by now but I have about 35 more pages to go. Let me let me just tell you one quick little thing. In Matfield green, where I have these seven plus houses, all of them bleak and foundations falling away and so on. I've had great fun tearing off the porches and cleaning up the yards. It's been sad going through the abandoned belongings of families who lived out their lives in this beautiful well watered fertile setting. In an upstairs bedroom I recently came across the dusty but beautiful blue padded box labeled old programmes of the new century club. Most of the programmes from 1923 to 1964, where there each list of the officers, the club flower, which was the Sweet Pea, the club colors, pink and white, and the club motto, just be glad. The programmes for each year are under one cover and nearly always dedicated to some local woman whose special in some way. One month the women were to comment on such categories as jokes, memory jams a magazine article, guests poems, flower culture, misused words, birds and so on. The May 36 programme was a debate resolved that movies are detrimental to the young generation. The August 1936 programme was dedicated to coping with the heat roll call was hot weather drinks. Next on the programme was suggestions for hot weather lunches, and the programme by Mrs. Rogler was ways of keeping cool. The June roll call in 29 was the disease I fear most. This is 11 years after the Great flu epidemic, children still dying then of diphtheria, whooping cough, scarlet fever and pneumonia on August 20, the roll call question was, what do you consider the most essential to good citizenship? The roll call September that year was birds of our country the programme was on the morning dove what became of it all? From 1923 to 1930. There were beautiful programme covers done at a print shop. From there on until 37 the reality of the depression is apparent. Programs were either typed or mimeograph there was no cover. The programmes for two years were missing. But in 1940 the covers reappeared but this time typed on construction paper. The print shop printing never appeared again. The last programme in the box was 1964 I don't know the last year Mrs. Johnson attended the club. I do know that Mrs. Florence Johnson and her husband Turk celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary for in the box are some beautiful white 50th anniversary napkins with golden bells and the names Florence and Turk between the years 1920 1970. Mrs. Johnson died in 81. The school had closed in 67. The lumberyard closed in 77. The hardware store 48 49 and the gas station. But back to those programmes. The motto never changed the sweet pea standing and so did the club colors of pink and white. The club which I want to read you persisted month after month, year after year. Here it is a collect for club women. Keep us Oh God from pettiness. Let us be large in thought and word indeed. Let us be done with fault finding and leave off self seeking. May we put away all pretense and meet each other face to face without self pity and without prejudice. May we never be hasty in judgment and always generous. Let us take time for all things. Make us grow calm, serene, gentle. Teach us to put our put into action our better impulses, straightforward and unafraid. Grant that we may realize it is the little things that create differences that in the big things of life we are as one and may we strive to touch into know the great common woman's heart of us all. And oh Lord God, let us not forget to be kind. By modern standards, these people were poor. When these women and their club left this earth, the extractive or industrial economy scarcely noticed. It was the same when the school closed and the hardware store in lumberyard. There was a kind of naivete among these relatively unschooled women. Some of their poetry is not good. Some other ideas about the way the world works seems silly. Some other club programmes don't sound very interesting. Some sound tedious, but their monthly agendas were filled with decency, coping with the weather and diseases, learning about everything from the birds to our government. These women, we're living up to a far broader spectrum of their potential than most of us today. I'm not suggesting we go back to 1923 or even to 64. But I will say that those people in that particular generation in places like Matfield green, and you can think of them here in Iowa. Those people were farther along in the necessary journey to become natives to their places, even as they were losing ground than we are today. The question becomes why was this livelihood so vulnerable to the industrial economy? And what can we do to protect such attempts to be good and decent, and live out our lives responsibly? I don't know. But that ought to be the agenda of Iowa State University to find that out. Because if Iowa State University doesn't, and Harvard doesn't, and Yale doesn't. We've had it we've had it as a culture, when the things run down to the sea, that were made of the soil, when the water is polluted, and the air is foul, and our children have no hope, about living out helpful and productive lives. And we have run the in relying primarily on knowledge as adequate, then there will be a whale. There'll be a whale. And what will they have to turn back to if we don't have the good examples that they can turn to? Well, I'll end with a poem. Gary Snyder, for the children. We know the population curve is like this. Now it's in the exponential. It's predicted that soon the ozone hole will be in the exponential global warming is here. So they say. So think of these steep slopes these curves. As I read this poem by Gary Snyder for the children, the rising hills, the slopes of statistics, lie before us, the steep climb of everything going up, up as we all go down. In the next generation, or the one beyond that, they say our valleys, pastures, we can meet there in peace. Decline these coming crests one word to you, to you and your children. Stay together. Learn the flowers go light. Thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42903/file/115506#t=0.0,1992.384"}]}]}]}