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Christiansen, who is our chief guest for the occasion. Dr. Anwar Syed, who's our keynote speaker, who has traversed all the way from Massachusetts. Distinguished members of the faculty and staff, my fellow students, and ladies and gentlemen. It gives us a pleasure to see you all here on this day. Our program follows with a recital from the Holy Qur'an by a fellow student of ours, a member of PSA, followed by its English translation. So I would like to ask Mr. Sardar to come to the microphone, please.\r\n\r\n- Now, I'll read the translation in English. God, most gracious, it is He who has taught the Qur'an. He has created men. He has taught him speech and intelligence. The sun and the moon follow courses exactly computed. And the herbs and the trees both bow in adoration. And the firmament has he raised high, and he has set up the balance of justice in order that he may not transgress balance. So establish weight with justice, and fall not short in balance. It is he who has spread out the earth for his creatures. Therein is fruit and date palms producing spetis. Also corn with leaves and stock for fodder, and sweet-smelling plants. Then, which of the favors of your Lord will he deny? Thank you.\r\n\r\n- This then is our annual function. We host it every year to commemorate the Pakistan Day, which the resolution actually was passed in 1940. Now as every organization, we too have an president of an organization, a graduating senior in Double E, And so if your toaster doesn't work, you know whom to get, Mr. Erfanasees.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Abed, for introducing me so well. I'd like to welcome all of you here this evening to a Pakistan Day Commemoration, Evening, I guess. We are very grateful here this evening to have with us some very distinguished people. Foremost, I would like to welcome Professor George C. Christenson, who was very kind to have accepted our invitation to come here this evening. We also have Professor Anwar Syed, who has probably already been introduced by my friend Abed. Professor Syed is a distinguished Pakistani scholar at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst. I'd like to thank him for having accepted our invitation to come here and talk to you this evening. I hope you will like what he has to say. And it will help you understand some of the problems that Pakistan and the people of Pakistan are facing. Pakistan Students Association is also very grateful to Professor James Lowry, who who is a faculty advisor this year. Professor Lowry has been of tremendous help to us in organizing this evening. He offered some very useful advice and helped us arrange some things which we probably could not have done on our own. And I'd like to thank him for that. Some of our things we have tonight have been made possible by what we brought from the International Resource Center at the Office of International Education Services. I'd like to thank all members of staff there who very carefully have kept all these things which we have been using over the years now. I like to also take this opportunity to thank Mrs. Violet Schneider, an American citizen, who was in Pakistan sometime back with her husband and who brought along with her some very precious, I should say, antiques and handicraft products, which are made in different parts of Pakistan. She was very kind to have offered to let us use things tonight. And I'm sure some of you have seen some of her things on the exhibition. The event tonight is a collection of efforts, which has a major contribution by all members of the Pakistan Students Association, by all other friends who, though not be members have helped us to set up a room this evening here. I like to thank all of them for the cooperation they extended. Well lastly, I guess I'd like to thank all of you for coming here tonight. I hope the program we have this evening would be of interest to you, and you will find what we have to offer to be stimulating, and would help you understand better what Pakistan Day stands for, and what are problems which we face now in Pakistan are. And so I guess I welcome you all. We'd like to get started now. We're already a little behind schedule. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Our chief guest, ladies and gentlemen, tonight is Dr. George C. Christiansen. Dr. Christiansen, as we all know, is the Vice President for Academic Affairs in this institution here. Before assuming this post, he was the Dean of the College of Veterinary Medicine. I need not elaborate his meritorious academic career, and to do so would just be an exercise in futility. So without any further delay, I would ask Dr. Christiansen to come to the microphone and impress us all.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, I am very pleased and very honored to be part of this Commemoration of Pakistan Day. It is a very happy occasion. I noticed the program when I came in, it stated that I am supposed to give a speech. I want to make this even a happier occasion by telling you I am not going to make a speech. Thank you . I'm going to give you a greeting, and I'll make it short. I am very, very pleased that the 12, I guess 13 Pakistan students here have taken it upon themselves to have this event for us, friends of Pakistan, to understand more about the culture of Pakistan, understand more about the political aspects of Pakistan, to hear from Professor Syed, and to see a film this evening. I certainly am looking forward to it with great zeal. I want to say too, that as far as Iowa State University is concerned, we have had a very long commitment to international programs, and to international students. And we've done this in many ways, but I'll very briefly cite three. One for many years, we have sent faculty members, professionals to essentially all the continents of the world to study and to teach. Dr. Wayne Shultis, in the audience tonight, has certainly taught, done research in Pakistan. Others here have studied and taught in other countries throughout the world. This is a major function and responsibility of this university. We also very happily provide American students with the opportunities to study in countries all over the world. This is constantly going on, and provides a tremendous experience for these American students. But our biggest commitment, and the part of our program, the university program which is most satisfying to all of us is the fact that so many students from foreign countries choose Iowa State University as the place to come and study. Because by bringing your cultures to us, you leave us much richer for the experience. Many of you, most of you, perhaps all of you, whether you're from Pakistan or from other countries outside of the United States, will be going home when you receive your degrees. I just want to assure you that you will always be part of the United States. You may not think so, but I can assure you when the Alumni Association get your name, get your address, they'll keep you informed. They'll keep you in contact. They'll even ask you for money at times. They'll want you to be a full participating member of this university for as long as you live. You will always be part of this country. Again, we are very pleased that you are here as students. We're very happy to help celebrate this occasion this evening. And I, for one, am looking forward to the program. Thank you very much. I, thanks, my thanks to Dr. Christansen for being here tonight, in spite of his busy schedule. Politics is a subject that interests us all. And I guess most of us, if not actively participate in it, like to hear about it. And a major item of our news, would just be boring without politics, such as our state of the world today. And Pakistan is a part of this world, and so it is not excluded from the political upheavals of what goes on and whatnot. Our lecture tonight here is a series on that topic, and the topic is Pakistan: The Quest for Identity. Our keynote speaker on this subject, as I mentioned earlier, is Dr. Anwar Syed. Now Dr. Syed has a very successful academic career here in the States, and as well as in Pakistan too. Currently, he's a Professor of Political Science at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, is an author of a number of books. One specially, which I kind of was most impressed was one on the relationship between Pakistan and China. Dr. Anwar Syed had come all the way from Boston, and though we had some anxious moments, we never know how the weather is going to be. But he is here tonight, and I would ask him to address you all. Dr. Anwar Syed.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, sir. Mr. President, Dr. Christiansen, Ladies and Gentlemen, may I first say how delighted I am to be able to have had this opportunity of visiting your lovely campus? When I go back, I will tell my friends at Amherst, Massachusetts that if your campus is not quite as lovely as my own, it is probably my provincial Massachusetts chauvinism. My friends here have cautioned me that you, as an audience are very discriminating, and that your patience is neither to be taken for granted nor to be trifled with. As you know I am by occupation a professor, and you know also that professors make money by talking. My natural inclination is to be expansive. But considering the word of caution said to me, I will try to limit myself to the time they have indicated, which is 30 minutes. But I will not look at my watch too frequently. Ladies and gentlemen, the subject that I have been asked to speak on is Pakistan's quest for identity. I wish it were a lighter, kind of a subject so I could get away with delivering a resounding kind of a speech instead of a lecture. It's a, it's a very intricate kind of a matter, a very complex one. And I would be insulting your intelligence if I did not deal with it at the plane to which it belongs. Which is complex and intricate, as I said. May I first say that Pakistan's quest for identity, is a quest which Pakistan shares with a great many other developing countries, and perhaps even some developed countries? Normally when we think of France, or Britain, or Germany, or Belgium, or Holland, or even the United States, it does not occur to us that any of them might be engaged in a search for identity. We take it for granted that the matter of their identity's been long since settled. And it's not in question anymore. However, if you were to take the time for a second thought, and were to look just across the border in Canada, and Quebec's desire for secession and separatism, and since the Scots have found oil in the North Sea, you may have heard that they've had some ripples of separatism, and same way with some groups in Spain and Yugoslavia and so forth. You might find that national integration or the settlement of identity are matters which are not irretrievably settled. That they can always be rolled back. And countries or nations that we thought were well settled nations can become unsettled. At any rate, coming to Pakistan, I think the two points that I would like first to make. The quest for identity becomes relevant, because Pakistan. as you all know, was ruled by a foreign power, that is to say, Great Britain, for a couple of hundred years. As you might expect in the course of those 200 years the British imposed upon the Indian subcontinent not only a system of political rule, but also imparted to the people of the sub-continent, for better or for worse, a certain measure, perhaps a large measure of their own values, and their lifestyles, and perhaps even their ways of thinking. And after the termination of that Imperial rule, it seems to me appropriate that the nations of the Indian subcontinent, having freed themselves from that rule politically, would want to free themselves of that rule psychologically also. In other words, you would expect them to want to be themselves, rather than somebody else. In the case of Pakistan, there is another, perhaps interesting, perhaps agonizing, depending upon where you stand, a reason. Which is that as you perhaps all know, some eight or so years ago, Pakistan went through a very bloody kind of a civil war. As a result of that civil war, one part of Pakistan seceded from the union and became Bangladesh. Perhaps you have read in the newspapers here and there, or heard on the TV, or the radio from time to time, that allegedly there are some separatists movements in other parts of what remains of Pakistan. For instance, in Balochistan and in the Northwestern frontier regions of the country. What does the East Pakistani secession in 1971 mean? Or what would separatism in Balochistan or the Northwestern frontier region would mean? At one level, perhaps it would be fair to say that when the East Pakistani people seceded from the union and became Bangladesh, they were saying that they did not wish to be Pakistanis anymore. Or if some people in Pakistan's Balochistan, or NWFB, as it is called, want to be separatists, once again you might say it that perhaps they are saying that they do not wish to be Pakistanis anymore. In other words, the East Pakistanis when they seceded, expressed dissatisfaction with Pakistani identity. Perhaps the separatists in other parts of Pakistan are expressing dissatisfaction with what supposedly, or what officially the Pakistani identity is. And so at the level of wanting to be themselves, and then in the context of this emerging separatism, the issue of identity is a crucial one in Pakistan. Crucial in the sense that it touches the very survival of the country as a country. Now, what is the official version? Or perhaps you might even say the more popular version of Pakistan's identity? The conventional wisdom in Pakistan has it that, that the movement for Pakistan's coming into being was raged in the name of Islam. And that Pakistan was created in the name of Islam. And therefore, any identity that is viable in Pakistan has to be an Islamic identity. In other words, in this conventional wisdom, if you ask Pakistanis who they are, they will say they are an Islamic people, or that they are Muslim. I don't want to go into, partly because I don't have the time, I don't want to go into the historicity of this claim, as to whether Pakistan was intended to be an Islamic polity or not. But let us say that a very, very strong and prevailing opinion in Pakistan, answers the question of identity the way I have mentioned to you, that the issue of identity comes down to Pakistan being an Islamic nation. The question then may be, what about it? Is there anything missing here? Well, this answer, the official, or the conventional wisdom kind of answer, has been given for 30, 30 years. That Pakistanis are a Muslim nation. And from that they derive their identity. And yet East Pakistan separated. And yet we hear that there are separatist movements in Balochistan, and the Northwestern regions of Pakistan. Meaning then, that the common bond of Islam, or the fact that the vast majority of Pakistanis share a common faith in Islam, was not a sufficient cement to hold them all together. That it was not enough to build a system of solidarity and domestic and national cohesion to maintain the country's and the nation's integrity. Now, here, if you are looking at this from the perspective of an outsider, which most of you are able to do, this should be easy to understand. The failure is not uniquely a failure in Islam. Ideology over the long run has nowhere been able to serve as a unifying goal. And serve a preservative of that unity over extended periods of time I call your attention not only to the world of Christendom, where Christians have fought Christians for centuries and centuries. And the fact that they were all Christians never stopped them from slaughtering each of them. I could also call your attention to the fact that in the communist world, a very great schism took place some 20 years ago. And during this 20 years, not a day passes without Moscow hurling all kinds of abuses at Peking, and Peking answering in the same coin. The fact that both Peking and Moscow belong to the communist family and to the communist ideology does not unite them. And even little Albania, and rather small Yugoslavia have been hurling abuses at Moscow for 30 years. I think you might say that the fact of common faith in Islam is a key to Pakistani identity in a confrontational situation with the outsider. In other words, if the Pakistanis are interacting, let us say with a Western nation they could say, \"Well, you are Christians.\" \"We are, we are Muslim.\" They could say, \"You are capitalists.\" \"You are socialists, you are communists, but we are Muslim.\" So in a context of juxtaposition to the outsider, the fact of Islamic identity is relevant. But if you are looking at Pakistan's problem of inner domestic cohesion, then what you find is that a faith in Islam is only a part of a Pakistani's identity. He believes in Allah. He believes in Muhammad as the prophet. He believes in a great many other prophets, prophets of the Old Testament, for instance and who are recognized by the Qur'an. He says his prayers. He fasts during the month of fasting. He's a God-fearing Muslim. But in addition to that, he is many other things. He may be a Punjabi, meaning, a person belonging to the province of Punjab. Or he may be a Sindhi, belonging to Sindh. Or Baluchi or Bhutan. Now, what does it mean being a Punjabi or a Baluchi or a Sindhi or a Bhutan? It means that you speak the Punjabi language or the Busto, or the Baluchi, or the Sindhi language. And if you reflect upon this matter of language you will perhaps want to agree with me that nothing expresses a person's personality as much as his language does. It is from that language that he derives his thought processes, from which he derives his metaphor, his idiom, his jokes, his jibes, even his gesticulations, the way he looks at things and so forth. In other words, Pakistan is not only a Muslim country. Pakistan is a culturally, linguistically, and to some extent, even ethnically, a diverse country. And therefore, if the question of Pakistan's identity is to be responded to as, as a whole, then you have to take note of these other ingredients besides Islam. In other words, you might say that Pakistani identity might proceed Proceed to words creating a composite kind of a Pakistani culture. My own interpretation of this matter is that the preservative that Pakistan needs is not Muslim nationalism, but Pakistani nationalism. A Pakistani nationalism which would include Islam, but it would include also the other things that I have mentioned to you. Now considering that 97% of Pakistanis are Muslim, you might ask me what the hell would the difference be between a Pakistani nationalism and a Muslim nationalism? And I think what I would say is what I have just said to you, that it would include not only the common faith in Islam, but the cultural aspect. Now, composite cultures are not made to order. I mean, you can't decide as a matter of policy that you're going to have a Pakistani composite culture. And next day that composite culture is just waiting around the corner for you to pick up. Composite cultures take decades, perhaps scores of years, perhaps even longer. And so, a Pakistani composite culture would have to be a long-term kind of a goal. But what about the short term then? Once again, I would submit to you that, a reasonably good beginning towards a Pakistani identity can be made if the diverse people of Pakistan, especially in the minority regions can begin to have the feeling that being a Pakistani is a good thing. Now, what do I mean by that? Being a Pakistani is a good thing. I think what I mean is that if the people of Pakistan were to feel that the economic system, the distributive system, the political system was civil, humane, egalitarian, and so forth. And that the political system was such, in which the regional personalities had self-expression, that they had the feeling of being respected by the other regional personalities. Then I think the feeling would begin to generate in Pakistan, in Balochistan, in Sindh, and in the Northwest frontier area, which are the minority regions of Pakistan. That being a Pakistani is a jolly good idea. Now, who creates these feelings? You all know, I'm sure, that it is the elite who create these feelings. They are the ones who can activate diversities to serve as disintegrative agents. And it is they who can agitate similarities to serve as integrative agents. And so, in a way the building of a Pakistani personality depends upon whether the regional elite in Pakistan, or you might say the regional counter elite, not the ruling elite, but the counter elite, if they are satisfied with the over-sharing that is available in the political system. A great many of the political leaders whom I am calling the regional counter elite have spent substantial parts of their lives in a preventive detention. In preventive detention, meaning in jail, as political prisoners. Now, if Pakistan were to mean to these political leaders as extended and frequent periods of preventive detention, or, or, or jail, then it would be hard for them to get the feeling that being a Pakistani is a great idea. Because so far people have not learned to love jails. Perhaps someday they might. I hope that day never comes. But jails are not a very attractive place to be in. So, on the other hand, if Pakistan were to mean to these people sharing power, certain amount of political patronage, some development projects in their regions over which they have control, some wheeling and dealing, and so forth. Things that, that you would call a fruit, fruit of political victory. I think if the political system were to permit a competitive kind of a politics. In other words, a democratic kind of a politics, instead of an authoritarian kind of politics, that Pakistan has had, more often than not, the way is paved for developing a national identity that would act as a preservative of Pakistani unity and integrity. Ladies and gentlemen, I think I'll stop here. And then, if there are things that you want to explore with me, feel free to raise them. The folks that have organized this affair said to me that you would probably want me to say something about Mr. Bhutto, who's currently in jail under sentence of death and maybe executed perhaps any day. And what, if anything, his execution might mean for the future of Pakistan? I haven't brought that in because I thought that if I did so I wouldn't be straining the train of thought that I was pursuing. But if any of you want to raise that, I'll be happy to respond to that or to any other questions that you may have. I thank you. Thank you. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Sir, I was curious, where do you see access willingness With the government now, since the overthrow of Bhutto? Do you see it going to a democratic system, or what exactly, what direction do you see it?\r\n\r\n- It's hard to say. Because the General, who is ruling the country right now, he has repeatedly said that he would hold elections. He said, when he came to power in July of 1977, he said he would hold them in October of that year. Then he postponed them to the following year. And then he postponed them to the October of this year. He keeps saying also that he would hold elections if he can be reasonably certain that results would be a positive. Now, I think left to himself, he would probably not be eager to hold elections. But there is a reassuring kind of a factor here which is that the people of Pakistan, the masses, have already launched two great movements for ousting dictators, and in behalf of their demands for restoring democracy. One in 1969, when the ousted a Ayud Khan and then one in 77, when they ousted Mr. Bhutto, or prepared the ground for Mr. Bhutto's ouster. My own feeling is that if the general does not hold elections this year, I am almost certain that there will be a mass movement again, for his ouster. In other words, the people of Pakistan are ready for a democracy. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- To what degree would Islam encourage the return of democracy?\r\n\r\n- You see, Islam like perhaps Christianity, perhaps a number of other religious systems would yield almost anything that you wanted. In other words, if you are looking for precedents to support democracy, you will most certainly find them. If you are looking for a limited kind of a democracy, once again, you will find precedents. And if you're looking for plain authoritarianism, then too you will not be disappointed. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- You, as I understood from your speech, you said that concerted efforts might unite the nation. We, the other people, we are, our countries have allied almost all the concepts, but right now, all of the, did not work in our country. We, inside your country, some and outside, we have to think our country that all these concepts I feel are not well tried now. Given the programs of our leader, right now didn't work. How come, you suggest, the idea or the concept of nationality is, if this works or what it works. And then you said that all unity is strong, the separation of commonalities is not good for unity. How come you said that, and you know that continual from this must see by India and influenced and other classes. How do you know that in Pakistan there be many classes across the country. How come you say that a new elite the outside wants it?\r\n\r\n- I think you may have misunderstood me just a little bit. I have not said that Islam is not good. What I have said is that Islam alone will not be able to do the job. You might say that Islam alone will not be able to do the job, because the Muslims of Pakistan are not all that good Muslims, just as the Christians of America, or the Jews of America are not all that good Christians or good Jews. You see Islam is a model for organizing your economic, social, and political life. But it will work only if you practice it. And since the practice of Islam in Pakistan and in the Arab world is just as imperfect as the practice of Christianity or Judaism here, or the practice of communism in Russia. You know, I mean, if the practice is imperfect the results will also be imperfect. Now, so far as the outside influences are concerned, I don't deny that there were, and there usually are outsiders ready, willing, and anxious to take advantage. But you see the outsider can take advantage only if advantage is to be had. If there is something there for him to explore it. If the people are already quarreling among themselves, then the outsider can come in and fan the fires of discord, and take advantage. But I think you would be oversimplifying the problem if you thought that the outsider creates the problem. But you feel free to argue a little further.\r\n\r\n- When you said your speech was illegal, when you say that, you know Canada is bitter, and their space to do anything to unite them. So when you said that, that means Islam is not good for that. So when you said that, and when you answer risk in the Islam community, in the same time Really, you talk about us. I suggest you did not know about this fairway. So, but you did not know how it's done. More, can you talk about that?\r\n\r\n- I, I want to thank you for your advice. I thought I knew a good deal, but you know we never know enough about anything and I will try to learn more. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Another question.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Also that, you say a culture based upon Islam is a good, is a wise choice. I'm mostly referring to the things said in 1945 or sometime around that, when separation of Pakistan from India happened. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Sikhs have been suffered and killed, because of Islamic created disorder. Any kind of religious elitists.\r\n\r\n- You see, when you asked me whether a culture based upon the Islam is that a good idea or a bad idea?\r\n\r\n- A wise idea.\r\n\r\n- Or wise idea, you are assuming that such such a culture is to be created. I mean, if it were a matter of policy choice as to whether to create such a culture or not, the question that you are posing would be a very relevant one. But that is not the situation. An Islam-based culture has existed in the Indian sub-continent for 700 years. And so it is not a culture to be created. It already exists. The question that I have been discussing with you to the disappointment of my friend over there is whether it is sufficient. Or in other words, whether it needs to be supplemented by some other aspects of culture, which also exist. Am I evading your question, or is that a fair response?\r\n\r\n- You might have a certain way, I mean strengthen this belief in Islam, or don't strengthen it. Do you think that they will strength, certain these basic idea of culture depending on Islam? Will they, of course, I mean, not the course, they will try to our special, over emphasis the relation between culture and Islam?\r\n\r\n- I will, what I will say is that what will really strengthen Pakistan is a political system which treats the adversaries of the regime in power in a democratic sort of a way. In other words, so long as the counter elite in Pakistan can see that they are free to make speeches. They're free to organize demonstrations. They are free to hold public meetings. They are free to publish their newspapers. They are free to come on the radio, on the television, that they are free to run in the elections. And then if they win, they are free to rule. I think that is what, to my mind, is crucial to the development of a national identity, which will be viable. But let me approach your question in another way. You see now at this time, and for the last few years, it is said that there have been stirrings of separatism in Balochistan and the Bhutan regions of Pakistan. Now supposing the majority province in Pakistan, which is the Punjab, were to hearken to the Bhutans and the Baluchis saying, \"Remember, we are Muslims.\" The Baluchis and the Bhutans will say to the Punjabis, \"Fellas, you've been Muslims for a couple of hundred years.\" \"We've been Muslims for a thousand years.\" \"How come you are talking Islam to us?\" \"You are Muslim.\" \"We are Muslim.\" \"They are all Muslim.\" \"What is new?\" Where do we go from here? Who gets the jobs? Who gets the jobs? Who gets the development projects? Who gets the dams? Who gets the electricity, and the tube builds, and the roads, and the hospitals, and the schools? Let's talk about those things. Islam is okay. We're all Muslims. Does that do anything for you?\r\n\r\n- It's fine.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- We can take one more question now. We have time for just one more.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- Okay, so you talk about this then, you late to Pakistan. Now, most believe Pakistan somewhere, they might get it from India, a group that not of the elite class, in the time of the turf, They didn't get very much chance to practice their elitism. Those are a very different people. Yet, we knew from Punjab, frontier, Balochistan, did not race too far. In these elite going to make a decision for the whole country, because they not get chance to participate in the government. Every time we see, we when you . They come and they work of the government. So if the majority of the people are willing to go along with the present normal, whatever it is, then why this culture come every time and take it from?\r\n\r\n- Sir, I am not altogether sure that I have understood you. Why don't you come up here and talk from the mic, so that I may understand better. And the audience may too?\r\n\r\n- My question I impose is that, see the measure, the metric elite in Pakistan and migrated from India and the people of original Pakistan in Punjab, in frontier, in Balochistan and Sindh, I hope you can hear me, are not, I mean, bring the econ, economical, economics were going really good. Everything was good, but this elite who migrated from India, were not given a fair chance. So they came and met the strikes get him out of the politics, then came the Bhutto. They did the same thing. Yet, if you go back before the Bhutto, this elite were ruling the country. They didn't do very good job. I mean, compared to what Ayud Khan did, or Bhutto did for the country. Now they got the Bhutto. They're going to hang him pretty soon. So, I mean, if you give a chance this elite to work as a Democrat. I mean, let me summarize the state of Pakistan is when German scientists say. The Pakistan is a ship with the golden bolts on it from captain to the crew, it's time to take these bolts out. But they don't know when they'll take finish taking all the bolts, the boat will sink. So my idea is to let one person run the country, and see where we go. Rather than changing the government every five years because the minority of people were educated, yet, they do not get chance to run the country, and let the 95% of the people decide the fate of the country.\r\n\r\n- Okay. I think I'll take the punch line as the question and respond to that. The punchline being that let one man run the country and see what happens. Well, we have one man running the country now. Before that, Mr. Bhutto, even though he was an elected prime minister was essentially a one man ruler, and he ruled for five years or more than five years. Before that we had Yahya Khan, who ruled for two and a half years. And he was also one man. And before that, we had Ayud Khan and he'd ruled for 10 and a half years. And that was also one man rule. So we've seen one man rule some five or six times. And we know what it did for the country. And therefore, and I think you might say also that regardless of my personal predilection, or your personal predilection, the people of Pakistan, for better or for worse, and I personally think for the better, now are insisting upon a restoration of democracy. And if you don't give it to them, they will riot. And to me personally, that's a very pleasant prospect, that they will force a restoration of democracy. If those at the helm of affairs don't want to distort it. I think, I think in that restoration of democracy lies a much greater assurance of Pakistan's survival and Pakistan's solidity, and security, and stability, and solidarity than in any one man rule, thank you.\r\n\r\n- We thank Dr. Anwar Syed for his very informative intelligent, illustrious speech. Learning, as we all know, is an ongoing process, and certainly was tonight too. We gained some further insights. As far as differences are concerned, that's the state of the subject of politics. The feelings tend to run high, people have different philosophies. And two politicians are never going to agree to a same strategy. Unless something drastically happens to both of them. So tonight we are three fourths down our program. We have an intermission now, and in the intermission, my reason for cutting the further questions out was that those who are interested can ask, or can avail this opportunity to ask Dr. Syed some further questions. And I would very much like all of you to have a second serve. After that, we've got a short movie called \"The Land of Indus\", runs about 30 minutes in length. What the movie does was in some ways supplements what Dr. Anwar Syed was saying. It highlights the different cultural groups in Pakistan and the four provinces, and which we all know to some extent does cause problems in there. Once again, I thank you all and hope you would remain with us. So please help yourself to a second serve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45447/file/118405#t=0.0,3638.16"}]}]}]}