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Helen Davis followed her husband.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=2326.15,2328.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think. Some. Men. Are dependent on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=2329.42,2331.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dependent on his occupation. I suppose. 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And it is a certain satisfaction","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3126.12,3129.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3129.78,3130.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think you know if you think it's a job well done","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3132.6,3134.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you find it satisfying. But I had just been a lot","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3135.08,3137.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more time out though than they did. You know I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3137.76,3142.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't I don't like to do things. 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For simply thank you very much for your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3149.25,3153.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interview today. And this will help you hear your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3153.36,3156.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"insights on this and you were lucky to be in that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=3156.54,3159.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944/transcript/36721/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way. 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It's April 14th 2002 and I'm in. Hanover New Hampshire. With Dr.. E. Lee Stephen Smith. These two CEOs many CEOs. All right. If you would like to begin with your childhood. Experiences. How you'd. Developed an interest in science. Well. Strangely enough I was born in Mississippi and grew up in New Orleans. And. In the time of my youth. When they were not supposed to do anything really except stand around and be attractive. And that hasn't changed is about this point of view. And then they could run a house but they didn't cook themselves. They Chuck. They ran the kitchen but anyway. So. I went to. UConn College which is the female college of Tulane University. At that time there was a big depression and I had together a fellowship and I got a fellowship and went to Logan. And what I had discovered in high school. Was I found chemistry fascinating. So when I got to Newcomb. I went on taking chemistry. And finally got a degree in chemistry at Newcomb. And then went on to get a master's degree in organic chemistry. While I have a job working in one of the student laboratories. And then finally. Took a job in the biochemistry department at Tulane Medical School to run the lab. And found out that biochemistry was one of the fascinating parts of chemistry. So this all during the war I stayed there. And. As a matter of fact they were willing to do anything to get me to stay because so many men were going off to fight the war. They weren't what many people left to work in chemistry lab and I stayed there during the war. And then I realized. I. Didn't have. My my main trouble there was it. Because I was a woman people didn't think I needed any salary hardly. So I had trouble surviving on the small amount of money I may be except for that they uh they let me run the lab. If only I knew how to do it. So I got I got to know the faculty and the students. And then when the war was over. Finally decided if I was going to go on in biochemistry I had better go up and get a degree. So I inquired around about graduate programs in biochemistry. And the only one in which I was accepted was one in Rochester New York at the University of Rochester. So I went there. I had never seen snow before. I had never been north in a winter. But I remember one day sitting in class taking notes the man next to me said Oh look it's snowing and I got so excited I what I went out almost. Everybody laughed at me and they said in Rochester. You need in a hurry anyways. So I uh I worked rather hard because again money was quite quite limited for these for these scholarships. And managed to get my peace in two years. And then. I had trouble getting a job. Because the man who was chairman of the department and who was my thesis advisor. Realized I had very good luck in my research. One of the reasons I had good luck is that I didn't work on a problem that nobody knew anything about and almost anything I discovered was going to be something new. So I was quite lucky. What was telling me about your research and work on the enzyme in living cells which react with molecular oxygen and this is the system that oxidize is substrates to produce energy for the cells to survive. Whose ATP. Anyway did you start that in your masters. This was the PHC okay. And your masters was Masters was in New Orleans and that was just on tricky reaction in organic chemistry. Nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with biochemistry before biochemistry. How. Let me just stop you for a second. What was your family's reaction to your students this education. Well they were amazed although I must I have to give it to them. I was supportive when I my mother knew the woman who shot art at Newcomb College. And she had always had tea with this woman. And my mother always assumed I was going into art and I finally had to tell her I wanted to meet here in chemistry. And her reaction was astonishment. And she said but that smells it. Does. I'm used to it. They they put up with this decision on my part. So I. Said so I majored in chemistry and then went on to get the master's degree while I was teaching in the lab and in the lab at Newcomb. And then got this job in biochemistry at Tulane. Now were you one of the only women students in chemistry at that time now that you go if you go and everybody was one and that was remarkable because. No one question that women could think you know we were all women. The only problem I have with some twice what I wanted to take the high level course in my chemistry it wasn't given a new game I had to go to Tulane and then everybody made fun of me. Why would a woman want to learn all this chemistry. The instructors at New come were also women. So you had female mentorship then. And. Let's say that while I was there it was fall you know and anybody any woman could do anything they wanted to do. Then actually me it was found out this was not really true in any way. So. And then. When I got to Rochester I went to get a cough drops and having a two it's cold. Well I think I've got men only one day he told me. He had to take me because he had a certain number of fellowships that no other person had applied. And if he didn't take me he would lose one. So he is right. I mean although he didn't believe in women at any rate when I went I had great luck. He was willing to help me stay on but he wanted me to know that I could not be a member of the faculty that no medical school would want a woman on the faculty. He and the Dean agreed upon this but they would make a specialty anyway so so I would just stay there and do his research anyway. When I told him No I didn't want to do that. I wanted to go and get another job. And then discovers he wasn't going to recommend me. I discovered this is because the secretary of the department was a nice woman and one day she came down and he was away and said I'm writing a letter. And I think you have to read it. So I read it and discovered that that it that she was right of typing a letter of recommendation for a job I had applied for and it said I had a rather present Southern accent but nothing about my ability at all. And I realized I was going to have trouble getting a job. So you were. Do you feel the way discriminated both as a as a woman and as a Southerner as a woman distance away. You think as I say first of all he didn't believe in women and then when he found out I could get good results. He liked the but in his work. He wanted me to stay on it just for his work. No I had no desire to do. I wanted a regular job but at any rate. So. I did find a hell of a job in New York and I wanted to go there looking for my father. He just had a heart attack and I wanted to give my mother a hand. But anyway it turned out that this job at NYU. I see the man who turned out to be crazy. So it clear I think I'll be able to stay there and I thought I mean. I mean I'm in a jam. What am I going to do. With them. I have lunch today with Helen Davis the one who is getting to know at Rochester. Now how did you see how someone who was also a student there as well as her husband. In the meantime my husband had a very nice thing a pen and so she had to leave and that's following him. So he was at PEN AND SHE CAME OVER TO NEW YORK AND WE HAD LUNCH AND I SAID NO I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP MY I'll come back and get a job. And Helen is marvelous. She said Look. You come over to Philadelphia this weekend. And I'll have a dinner party. And I will invite Britain chance is very famous scientists there with whom he worked. And he let him see if he can advise you what to do. So we had this you know when we had the party and I met him and he told me to come by his lab the next day and offered me a job. So I finally got got to have a job and Ed Penn was a very good job as far as big pay was concerned. It was an interesting one because it's interesting things going on there. So I stayed there. Until. I came to government and they were building up a new butler biochemistry here at Dartmouth. What year was that. Fifty eight. I stayed at ten. And that month the 1850 data a idea and then came here. And that was an interesting experience because at that time. Not much was all male. Oh really. Oh they'll say and they were. A little bit. Dependent not me on the biochemistry department because they had to give the biochemistry course to the medical students and a number of them didn't know much biochemistry but I knew the whole span because of my of my training being different from them. So I did a lot of teaching. And they realized that they were they really weren't dependent on me. So I wasn't really worried about not getting along. And in that in the in the department here in that respect I think that this is strange happen is that because I was a full time faculty member now for the first time. I had to save on all these committees and do all these other things. And the first time I would ever go to a committee meeting. They would look around and realize I was the only well now they would show up and we had actually since I was a woman I was the one who is going to take the minutes. You know if this was simply a typical stereotypical woman thing. And. We simply. We had some problems here at Dartmouth and the medical school. And. A good many of the department left. Were kind of sad to stay because. They in a little town like Helena is so marvelous for me I just decided I'm going to put up with them anything. When I was at Penn I had the problem of getting back and forth from my apartment from a medical school to my apartment and very while I was there my apartment was broken down about once and about once a year. And I remember well. One day I came home late afternoon there was a woman stretched out on the steps she had just been stabbed by two men ran by the car stabbed and took a one away. Then you were there waiting for an ambulance. And I asked myself why am I doing here. So the next morning. I went in and they told me I have a long distance call. And it was a man who was going to be chairman here asked me if I would be interested in coming and talk to them about possibly joining this department. My answer right away. Oh yes. Where is it when you tell me it was in New Hampshire and I said that's near New York City. No not really anyway. So I came and decided and decided to take a cab. And I was sitting on. You know I'll stayed on here. I've put up without all the problems. But the fact is Helen Davis and I agree. You have to have a sense of humor. If you're a woman you don't have a sense of humor. You shouldn't go into anything that is like this if you go into women's things. But at any rate it has some day. I don't think it's going to happen because we're both busy. Helen and I have talked about. Writing up our experiences and it would be fun I think. But as I say The trouble is it takes time. I doubt what I would do at least. It would be fine if we ever got around to it. But. She said. And you know she's an interesting time too. But. Anyway when. After I came here. She had been doing research together all this time. In somebody we were very interested in this side of home obviously. And she. When I came here she would sometimes come and work in my lab for a week. 10 days. We haven't gotten everything ready for the project before she came. At the end of a week. Although she had carefully stopped everything in her freezer. Her husband would run out of food and then it was to go back and your phone calls would begin coming in. But we kept on doing research until I closed the. I closed my lab and then I was only going down to fence. He closed the lab when. Let me think. I retired. I retired at 65. I'm sorry. That was in those days of retirement was official at 65 years didn't mean much. Because I kept my I kept on teaching for secure. And I kept my alarm going for another year. And then and then I started going down to Penn and working at the same branch and Helen. Helen set up a lab so. We'll be working together and then. You would think. And. So I retired when I was. 10 years ago. The day I moved into Kendall. It seemed like a good time for me to retire because I had been working on Helen's Grant and the grant from a man on the Pharmacology Department here at Dartmouth. So I had been going on with work was there not no teaching but with the research until I decided you know enough and I retired officially and moved in here. And I walked out of my lab office. This is great. No more meetings. Oh was I wrong. Then I got I've gotten involved in all kinds of other things. And there are organizations such and but I've been particularly involved in something they started just 10 years ago here at Dartmouth and this is a group called Elliot Agee and this is the Institute for lifelong education at Dartmouth. And this is a usual one at universities. What the group here at Dartmouth had known they had a lifelong learning institute at Harvard been going on for about five years. So. We asked them to come up and look over the area and see what they thought was going on here. And this is a wonderful thing. It's people going on learning you know in a rather informal type setup. I'll tell you about but anyway we asked the. We have study groups and they were limited to a maximum of 20 beyond 20 that crosstalk is not a not so good. And at this moment. This spring. There are 22 of these going on. And. People from all over the area come. So that when the people from Harvard came and looked you over they thought we could certainly get a group of 63 of 60 people. As of last week and I'm on the membership committee. We had over eleven hundred. We've got the biggest lifelong learning institute in the north east United States. But it's wonderful because we have such a group of people to draw discussion leaders from Dartmouth and other end of the crowd all the things around here and people and capital. So I this time I didn't get my first choice. I wanted to join I'm just to give you an idea. My first choice was I wanted archaeology which was led by a woman who was a professional archaeologist and her father who lives around here was a chemist and he got interested in archaeology when she started it. So between them they give this to they this discussion. And I did it several years ago and was so fascinated I want to do it again. It got so popular they had to do a lottery and I didn't get any right. It's been a great thing and as I say I was one of the ones in the beginning getting it going. So it's been it's really been very exciting now is any of that content directed to women in science. No not necessarily. Fact I don't think there's ever been a discussion on that particular aspect although. I took one last fall on science and religion it's a very interesting one as a matter of fact when I went around I'll tell you what my background had been the discussion leaders about what you can cover evolution. But I think what we have been you know really exciting people involved in this. And it's taken up. A good good deal of my interest and I was anxious to get it going. Now we even have a summer program. But instead of having a small discussion groups in the summer we have to have lectures and not enough people here in the summer to want to take a whole small group through the whole summer. But we have wonderful wonderful lectures though and other organizations activities that we're involved in now. Well let me think. About four years. I was very active in the League of Women Voters. The video I have gotten and other things unless I'm involved in that at the moment. I'm not as enthusiastic about what the local group is doing now. And why is that. Well when they were trying to get people interested in voting registering to vote getting opinions from people running and so forth that was interesting. Now the newspapers have kind of taken off that and they're not doing it as well. So now they're talking about the future of the area and so forth. And I find it less interesting than it used to be. But I was I was I was quite busy in that for a while. I've been very active in that or in the local Congregational Church. And those those that I think I've met my my my my main and my main energy. Do you miss working at the university. Do you miss your research. No. What's more so many years of that and as I say when I walked out I have had enough. I just ended with that. The other thing that I have found is that. If you're involved in a massive research area you have to work full time. And I did until you know until I from both on so and in fact I have given up teaching so I know I have a lot of time to spend. But. There's the other thing that's changed for me. Is biochemistry change. At the moment is all genetics. Yes. You know genetics are interesting. They're not my thing. Electron Transport is my thing. So I get it. It hasn't kept me as fascinating as fascinating as it did when when I was really involved in that area. They've done a lot to understanding some of the bio energetics. So. Now. Now is it. Now it's on to the Q genetics and it isn't as much my thing but I've tried to keep up with other changes. Have you seen in science in particular the chemistry since you started working. The. Instrumentation. Sooner. The things I can do now is just absolutely fantastic. But there's a very. Very good and very active chemistry department here at Duke. Is it fairly well recognized. Oh yeah. Yes. And you. Your work does you receive recognition award. You go way back. You know when I'm going out we'll work on it really. Right. What were some of those anyway. I was. I. Mean a member of the American Society of biological cameras and on several groups. That were involved in different particular aspects of it. This was the exciting part. And what's more. I got to go to all the international congresses. Which is fun and fascinating. And that took you two. Well one of the one that was amazing was the one to Moscow and this was I think 67 there was a long time ago. It was interesting because the Russians hadn't realized what this was really like but I'm not. A little worried that. All these people would be. Delving into their affair. The day the day we got there. Gagarin made his trip around the moon. And came down and they had fireworks. At the meeting. They announce the bread that they had broken the genetic code for the first time. So it was you know that sort of thing was an absolutely fantastic. One. I was invited to a special meeting in Australia. And this was done I think this was 15 on. Their. They said you know Australia had the capital of Australia in Canberra because they had three big cities. They had Melbourne. And. Sydney. The third. Anyway all of them wanted to be in the capital city. And they just kept fighting and they couldn't solve it. So they decided they'd start a city from scratch. So they pick a point and it's in the middle of the Three Cities and Built Canberra. And so this is that is the Australian capital. And in 1959 they built their academy of science building and they want to dedicate it by having scientists come. And there were a group of charmers. Sent from United States to Canberra for the meeting. The nice thing for me was when I went to. I decided to fly Qantas. Their airline which is wonderful incidentally I went to the office in New York. And when I told them I was going to a meeting in Canberra the low and brought up tickets and she said you know. You're almost halfway around the world. Hanover New Hampshire the Canberra Australians. And if you pay 60 dollars more you can come back the other way. So I did. So I went ahead I had a run around the world trip but I also love the. Spread. It was at the in Australia was really exciting and being there was exciting. So you know I've been lucky to. Be involved in it interesting things like. Like big meetings. And you said several women went with you on that trip to Australia that night. Oh you were the only woman there at the meeting in Australia. There were about 60 people. And two of us are women. I am a woman from France. So do you think that's changed over time that there are more women going to be there more women but this is go a long way to go. You know this is God this is this is gonna make some more progress in terms of well that's I say this meeting in in Holland three years ago. Showed that. That. Women are still having pope particularly Nancy what's the name. Nancy Haskins this got this gunman. After she had been at M.I.T. for a number of years that she had only half as much lab space as any man and the other woman the same. And she needed more space her work was going very well she could expand when she wrote to the Committee on a lot of space they several official letter telling her she wasn't entitled any more space. So she got the other women together and they made all the measurements and they found that every woman had less than half as much as any man. So they sent this to the president of M.I.T. and like all college presidents he appointed a commission. To study the problem and they studied for two years and that was what brought his announcement on in the New York Times that their study had shown that MRI to discrimination against women at every level. Secretary care Professor. So and that's as I say that's no more than three years ago. So it's this is this is this is my goal right now. Have you seen some this similar problems at Dartmouth. Well I'll say when I came. There was one. Probably two other women on the faculty. One of them to myself I had heard about who was a scientist and I wanted to go and see her. Any way she was. Because they found I found her office in a lab down in the basement of an old building. She was a chemist as well. No she was a biologist. And then there was one in history. But. At. One or one of my favorite stories is when finally I came here I was an associate professor and after a number of years I would make a full professor and one of Dartmouth's traditions is that once you become a full professor you were given an honorary master's degree so that all Dartmouth professors are Dartmouth alumnae. So I got a notice from the president to come to a lunch where I was going to be presented with this degree and we met in the basement of the handover and there were men all around me and I tried to talk to them as they obviously weren't wanted your child. The president came in laughs said a few words to him. And finally. He said well I said this is one of our nice traditions I think we should have some sharing. So they brought in some sherry. And then he announced who can sit down for lunch and all the men sign handing me the empty sherry glasses. They obviously thought I had come to serve lunch. And lose them. This was a wish would have been about sixty. Four I guess something like that. Anyway finally. When we sat out on the president's Andalusia you sat next to me. You were the only woman. And you're the first woman to get one of these. From the other men. I'm looking down on the. And the one who wouldn't talk to me but at any rate he said. He wasn't noticing. With. It. Finally. Went. What was the last. Of the Ivy Leagues to go Cohen. At that point I got a call from the pros. Telling me that they wanted to put me on a committee to study this going coed since I was the only female defendant. And. They. Got got they got the committee together. And then you know and. The subject is going to come up. What about women. I mean. We certainly have long time getting women actually come here as to so take approximately how many. How long. Let's see. This is funny. Twenty five years is a long time. And. At the moment. They have. Almost equal number of women. But let's take a look at it a long time. In the beginning it took how many years to get women to apply. To enroll. When they were giving something like. 15 or 20 percent. That the best they could do in the beginning. And then. The word got out the women would do it all right. They have a strange time of course with all the dormitories. They had to arrange to have female dormitories and. We'd get a. Always get telephone calls. From buildings and grounds. They always they always call me the dean of women which I wasn't. But at any rate they said look we want to ask you. Is it true. That all women need handrails because. If. All women need long mirror. Yes. It hasn't had that problem with. The men's student. But. Uh. Is. That. The good thing was the president was such a clever man. This was a man named Kameny. Who knew how to deal with with all these problems as a matter of fact when some of the other Ivy Leagues were having these protests sessions. He. He called off classes for three days and had everybody talk things over. And so we didn't have some of the problem that. Some of the other people did. These protests were going on at what time period. At least 20 years ago. And you Penn was one of those. Universities protesting. Semite. Well as I say. You remember they occupy the. Administrative department in Columbia that year whatever that means at least 20 years ago maybe a little more. Here. As I say because there were people marching with funds. And. People sleeping out on the green and. Cops and things. The president decided instead of. Having to deal with occupying his office. And so what he does everybody talk. And he did three days we talk. And was that men and women. Primarily women students. No. No they weren't there weren't that many women. It was wasn't an overpowering number way. Then. Why. Would. They were. Seriously trying to get. Attention. You. One of the things that happened is the. Dartmouth trustees discovered. That what was the last one to go coed. In the meantime the trustee discovered that people were giving up got much to go to pension. Which had gone coed. And that was upsetting. They had never done that and they haven't done that before. Why do you think Dartmouth was the last. To go. Cohen. Well as I say. I think things were a little. A little sexist here. Maybe more than maybe more than other places. And now we're getting along. I think at that time too you say 20 25 years ago. This was really isolated. It's hard to get out. So people were stuck here and they built up a very nice. Type of social life. But I think it was different from something in Boston. Where you could go all these other other things were going on. Now. The women that you Penn had a support network because there were some other. Women tennis there. That helped them to navigate this and. To. Give them some confidence or whenever they needed to get by. What did you do. We did finally have a small group here. Which was a little unfortunate in a way. It. Was one of the women. Wanted to do everything. Dramatically. Which wasn't going to work. We saw what went on at Penn. They plugged on and everything came along. But you know you you kick with just a few women making a lot of fuss. We didn't see a window. And so we had to put up with that too. But there were there were some. Nights. Not so many in the medical school. In the medical school. When I retired. There were only three. Women full professors. So it was a little slower. Has that changed since then. I don't have any now. They've they've called off all the. Professorship problems. So. And the. Women think. That one of them was my close friend. She's. She's from time. And. The other the third one is about to retire. So. That group will be gone. But they're planning new ones coming up. Did you ever think about. Going into industry or government. If that experience would have been different for you. If it would have been easier. Now and I and I think a number of you. About six years ago I would in this journal called me an engineering note. There was a comparison. Of women in. Academia compared with industry and they thought they were doing better in industry. On the other hand is research I was so enamored with. Was purely basic research. And you were absolutely free. To do anything that interested you. And this appealed to me so much. I wanted to stick with that. If you take a job in industry you're given an assignment. Can be very interesting but you're limited you don't have flexibility. No. And what's more. I found academia very attractive in some ways although maddening in all a man thing and others. And I thought I may be wrong. I thought it would probably be worse in industry for women. It wasn't. What I thought it probably wouldn't be. That men in the industry would be more. Power than me but I'm not sure. As I say when I read lately is it it wasn't. What about your personal life. During all of this. Well I feel. I've had a nice time. Had you know. Good friends I've traveled. But you never married never married. So I came close. It was in a conflict with your your scientific interest. The second one was the first one. In. The first one just petered out. It. Was during the war. They finally sent them off to war and then let's save it. It just simply couldn't go on. But the second one was when I first came to Dartmouth. And. We couldn't. No way we could get jobs in the same place. No. Some women didn't. Helen Davis followed her husband. And I think. Some. Men. Are dependent on it. Dependent on his occupation. I suppose. The other thing is that. Keller was willing to go wherever her husband. Wanted to go. To. And I wasn't as convinced convinced of that. It just. And what's more Helen's done very well as you know. She hasn't been. She hasn't really been limited. By having just to go where her husband went. But I was afraid I would be and I'd really be bored. And. I guess. In the end I think I had some regrets but at any rate it didn't work. Do you think that women can have it all. Can have their family can have a career. Can. Obviously some women do they find a way to balance it. But obviously some of them I think I think I'd give Helen as an example of someone to do that. She gave it to her husband. And. In any way that wasn't too bad. He was an arrogant Englishman. That's. Where it came right down to. But she wanted to do she. She wouldn't. And he knew. The limit to what he had to push around. It was it was it. Was an ideal combination. I know that oftentimes. That's lucky. To have a situation like that it doesn't happen for many women. And. You. Have a very defensive telling Davis and also. Nothing can. Tell me a little bit about that relationship. Anyway. I had known Mildred at meetings. That's the. Good thing about being a biochemist you get to go to all these meetings both in this in this country. They have one a year. And every third year somewhere in the world. This is what this is. Isn't that why I got to go to the exciting one in Moscow. But. I had no milk noted for meetings and then the thing about Mildred like Helen. Her husband was a very famous scientist. In fact. I think more famous than Mildred. So when he decided to come to Penn she came with him. And I got to know them very very much better. And now what happens is very nice. Is that she comes her. Daughter. And son in law. Have a vacation place about 20 miles from however. And. She and a friend a chemist friend from hers in New York come here for a week every summer. So we have a long discussion at dinner. They have every every August. It is very nice. At least we keep up. Do you actually collaborate. Collaborated on work with Helen Davis. But not. Helen did her. Research for her thesis with me. Really good. I mean we really were work right together as co-workers. Well you know you always have a thesis supervisor. And I was her thesis supervisor. That's what as a matter of fact. It was bright enough she did not supervision but we worked in the same area. And so we can always talk about what was what was going on. So she took a piece of the research and made up her thesis. But it seems like your connection with these U Penn women gave you the support system that you know. Yes. Oh that was great. And you also are U.S. offensive men and the end. No. No. Not so much. And the other one if you can. That I interviewed Dr. Jenny Glasper. Let's see you know Jennifer I've known her for a year she's retired. Right. But the other one is. Maybe. Mainstreaming the boy. Right. She and Yellen and I were very very good friends no. Oh man. So. And as I say the good thing is it you know we we we we always keep having problems. But. We can laugh and get together and laugh at him. Now have you heard Helen singing on the radio. I haven't heard you sing I've heard of her singing but I haven't actually heard her singing because this is one of those things that we did together when we worked together. Who would make a song. Wait two songs. And when I would we go off to a big meeting. We usually give sing a song. To someone whose birthday or something like that. And also a lot a lot of the work that we and the lab work we did within a cold room. A room at four degrees. Where we had to do all this mechanical stuff. And while we were doing that we made a voyage to song. So we had a silly time and she is good good at it. But. What she did when she started actually after I closed my lab. She went into the bacteria allergy department. And she teaches back to Realogy. Now in addition to biochemistry. And. Bacteria allergies is always memory work. In the name of the organism was the diseases of one inhaler realized this was not easy. So for each bacterium she made up a song. And the interesting thing is to go into a about bacteria allergy final exam the student will look at the question. And then you can see them saying. But anyway she got. The students at the back your allergy students at Penn recommended her for an award the outstanding teacher in the United States medical schools. And so she went to Anaheim California to accept the award. And they heard about these songs. This is how this got into the out into the into the radio world where she was given this award. But they're very clever and I know a number of departments have asked for that. She said I gave a copy of it to the group here. They feel using it is a help. If you have to remember all that stuff. And the back here do to the students at Penn is so much better than yes because of this but. It's. So now you worked with Helen Davis and I'm sure that my team for you've mentioned several women tennis and who have had some of those men and then and how is that experience anyway. A lot of my very close friends who incidentally is very ill have a open heart surgery this week was a professor in the physiology department. She got her professorship just just after mine and we were friends for years and it was wonderful because we did we agree on academic things. We see a light politically. Most days we'd have tea together and a little a little office that she had of her lab and get the affairs of the world settled. So I'm a marvelous thing. And then there's another good friend who came here to join the she's return came to join the pathology department and she's just retired and she's got a life like all of us. Gotten other interests. And. At the moment. She is chairman of the Iliad department on illegal aliens committee on travel. And they are leading a group of people to Scandinavia next month. So what this study travel groups doing Alien you study all year. Fall Winter and lot of spring and then go on the trip. So when you go you're very knowledgeable about. And then she's sharp she's chairman of that committee. So she's leading this group to. Scandinavia. Which is. A job. So. Did you see. The difficulties or the situations of women students that you work with. Did you see that teams in Dartmouth over. The last couple of decades. Well I was. In the beginning. Our department only taught medical students. So it was really a problem in the beginning because as I said when they announced they were going to accept medical students no came after a few years one came and then when you have two or three. And. They they use me as support. In fact one time. Came to my office in tears. There were three of them that year. And the male students had decided to no. Pretend they didn't exist. That sort of thing. So you know they come in and I cheer him up and we go but. I don't know how. I don't know how these things develop. This isn't always puzzles me. I remember. One of the. Early years I was here. But medical school always starts almost everywhere starts with a gross anatomy and biochemistry and at Dartmouth was a small place at the time they had only a. Class of 24. So we the biochemistry department is the name of beer party be beginning. And I remember during the evening that one of the students from Venezuela as a matter of fact had quite a bit of beer. And walked over to me and said What do you do. And I said well I'm going to teach you biochemistry. And he said that's no good. He said in my country we know women can't teach us anything. So the other students were seeing what was going on led him away. But. He did very well in biochemistry. As a matter of fact. The last he took a class he only had two. He said the last day a whole group I was having lunch together and he said. You know not just since that beginning I've always asked myself. Oh boy did you do a wise thing right. He made out all right. And many years later I met him at an international biochemistry. Conference in Hamburg Germany. And he rushed over to tell me he had become a biochemist. So that's a wonderful story anyway. You know as I say the good thing is it's funny. You realize it's unbelievable. It's unbelievably humorous that these things go on. And. I don't know. Because I'm not you know. Really involved in it. I don't know how much better it's gotten it has to get a lot better now that there have there is many women students as men. The thing that's interesting. I'm talking to my friend who was on the awards committee. Is how much better the women medical students do than the men. She said they select people for awards and the best this is a woman or a woman and a woman finding what someone will speak up and say look we have to find one man. I don't know I don't think there are any brighter. But they're definitely more. They weren't serious or anxious and learn to learn. And that's still true I think. Not that I don't think that's changed. Well you know I think. A woman to go to medical school isn't enough to give it a lot of thought. Lot of sacrifice. Do you really want to do this. Not that I do. No. So there you. Have your experiences. What would you most like to be remembered for. Your contributions your research. Your involvement in committees et cetera. I think probably in. Teaching biochemistry. Your first love. Well I liked it. And what's more I have a certain ability to teach. Some people. I think you have to like it to do it right. And I was lucky to have. Incompetent people around me at any rate. So I'm very very good relationship with students there. That's one of the nice things I went out to Seattle a couple of years ago was when I went in on Sunday to drive to buy up a new york times and a bookstore bumped into my old school. And you know it's really very very nice too. They wrote. They remember me. And it is a certain satisfaction in them. I think you know if you think it's a job well done you find it satisfying. But I had just been a lot more time out though than they did. You know I don't I don't like to do things. You know in a slipshod way. So I actually just spent some time preparing. For simply thank you very much for your interview today. And this will help you hear your insights on this and you were lucky to be in that way. No I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73104/file/158944#t=0.0,3164.55188"}]}]}]}