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Okay, good. My name is Kathy Chamberlain, and I'm a student on the Institute for National Affairs Committee. Before I introduce tonight's speaker, I'd like to give you a little bit, before warning about what's to come. And I know some of you have heard this about eight times, but we like you 'cause that means you've been here about eight times. Tomorrow, the lecture or the film, will start over. Instead of a film at noon, we're having a mini concert by Fox Singer and activist Si Kahn. And that will be in the maintenance shot. The movie, which ordinarily would have been at 12, will instead be at one, in the Gallery instead of the Pioneer Room. And that movie is \"Saul Alinsky Went to War\" and it's an hour for those of you with classes. At three Si Kahn will give a lecture on how people get power. In the evening at eight o'clock, Anne Braden, will address the topic \"The New Anti-racist Movement\", key to a new America. And Friday, the last day of the Institute, the film at noon will be Eugene Debs, \"The American Movement\". At three o'clock, there's a change in the program. It says, David McReynolds, that's wrong. Instead of David McReynolds, we will have Howard Horlick. His topic is, \"Anarchism and alternative to the welfare system\". If that's not the right word, that's the idea of that anyway. The last lecture of the Institute, the lecture on Friday night is the topic of \"Poverty in religion\" with John Perkins is the speaker. Tonight, I have the pleasure of introducing Dr. Francis Fox Piven, who is currently a professor of political science at City university in New York. Her teaching interest in the past few years have included the politics of social welfare, the structure of American government, various political movements, urban politics, and most recently deviant behavior. Most well-known books ,in 1971, she wrote in conjunction with Richard Clower wrote \"Regulating the poor:Thefunctions of public welfare.\" 1977, \"Poor people's movements why they succeed and how they failed.\" Her most recent book which just came out last year is \"The new class of war:Reagan's attack on the welfare state and its consequences\". And she's now currently working on a book about deviant behavior and the why people get involved in deviant behavior, the social structures behind it. Will you please help me welcome Dr. Francis Fox Pivon?\r\n\r\n- For a brief spell after the election of 1980, most Americans were in the thrall of a kind of political fantasy. It was a fantasy created by the media. The fantasy said that the 1980 election has been a landslide and that it had been a landslide because Ronald Reagan the great communicator, had during the campaign articulated the vast resentments of the American people against a big and an interfering government. The policies which Ronald Reagan and the Republican right then proceeded, very boldly to implement expressed these deep wishes of the American people. Well, the fantasy is dissipating. The haze is clearing. It is becoming more and more evident that the majority of the American people are very dissatisfied with the Reagan program. Discontent is growing and it's being more and more clearly expressed. The nuclear freeze movement which has spread across the country, drawing in vast numbers of middle class Americans is an expression of discontent of displeasure or disagreement with the Reagan military positions. The public opinion polls have been showing the breadth of opposition to the Reagan policies on a range of issues not only military issues, but his economic policies and his social welfare policies as well. And then in the 1982 midterm election we saw another form of evidence of opposition. Turnout in that election was up for the first time in 20 years. It was the first time in two decades, that turn out had risen in a midterm election. And the evidence suggests that the increases in turnout occurred particularly in districts with a preponderance of blue collar and minority voters. Moreover, but before and after the 1982 election, activist groups of all kinds began to turn to voter registration efforts. The importance of these developments is very clear requires not much comment. The policies of 1980, and that includes the military policies, the economic policies and the social welfare policies were made possible by an election. People voted for Reagan. That's how he acquired presidential power. And that is why the Congress moved to the right as well. And that is why they were able to implement those policies. But that was an election in which almost half of the eligible electorate did not vote. The so-called landslide election of 1980, was won by Reagan with 26% of the votes of the eligible American electorate. Meanwhile, some 47% of the electorate stayed with the party of non-voters, 76 million people did not vote in that election. We also know something about who those people who did not vote are, they are poorer than those who do vote. They are more likely to be unemployed. They are more likely to be minorities. They are the people, in other words, who are suffering the keenest hurt of the Reagan administration's economic policies and who were far more likely to suffer the direct hurt of cuts in the social welfare programs because they are far more likely to depend upon unemployment insurance or AFTC or food stamps or housing subsidies or low income energy assistance grants. Inevitably, were these people to go to the polls where they have to be registered and were they to go to the polls? They would vote democratic in 1984. And as more of them go to the polls, as more of them are enlisted, registered, and go to the polls. The outcome of the 1984 election becomes more certain the Republican right, will be defeated. An activity no doubt worth working on. But there is more to be said, far more to be said, both about the political potential of this vast pool of non-voters. And more to be said also, about what it is that is at stake in American politics today, because it is not simply a question of whether Democrats or Republicans win the election in 1984. It has become increasingly clear over the last decade that the United States is in the thralls of an economic crisis. The symptoms of that crisis have been developing since the early 1970s. They include a long-term increase in unemployment not simply this spurt, the shooting up of employment in the last two years. The symptoms also include; increasing public and private debt, declining profits in the nonfinancial sector, and more recently declining real income. There is why disagreement among economists right left in the middle, whatever they may be, about the causes for this economic malaise. But what they do agree about, is that it is not merely this is not merely a cyclical adjustment. This is not merely a cyclical downturn in the American economy from which we will in due course recover. Rather, most although not all the way that most opinion most economic opinion, points to the sources of the crisis in very large scale changes that have taken place in the international economy, changes through which the United States lost the position of dominance that it had after the second world war, and lost it in the face of the growing competition from Western Europe and Japan. And most analysis also point to the important role the very radical changes in technology, have played in the economic crisis as it enfolds in the United States. But the important point is that the American economy is in trouble. It's not in a period of simple, natural readjustment. And the Reagan program has to be seen in the light of these troubles. The Reagan program is intended, is addressed to fixing one of the symptoms of the crisis. The slow long-term erosion of profits, the expansion of the military budget, the slashed taxes on the wealthy and on the biggest corporations, the removal of business and industrial regulation, all have to be seen in this light, if only because the Reagan administration says they should be seen in this light taxes are being reduced because they interfere with profits, environmental or health and safety regulations are being minimized because they interfere with profits. Moreover, the Reagan tight money policy, which is part of the reason for the sharp upturn in unemployment in the last two years, that tight money policy by increasing unemployment is diminishing wages. Shifting therefore shares within industry. Wages are going down and as wages go down and as taxes go down and as regulations only move profits will presumably be increased. At the same time, social welfare programs that provide some protection to the income of people like unemployment insurance or AFTC or food stamps or Medicaid or housing subsidies are being slashed, with a considerable determination and single-mindedness by this administration which for example, has gone after the disability programs with a great fury and has, is in those cases where its case review is complete has removed between 20 and 40% of the people from the disability roles administrative. Well, the administration has gone after the social welfare programs, partly because the money that it's given back in taxes to the rich and to corporations has to come from somewhere. But probably also because by reducing social welfare payments by making the programs much more restrictive they will increase insecurity among working people and among the unemployed and therefore increase the pressures that are building up in the labor market. As poor people, unemployed people scramble for whatever jobs there are underbidding each other in the contest, in the competition to survive. Well, the Reagan administration is not, in other words, inaugurating these programs whimsically or wantonly. These programs are a way of dealing with serious problems that have developed in the American company. A large reorganization is underway. Very powerful forces are behind that reorganization. Those powerful forces are of course, corporate interests. If we are at that kind of juncture in our history, when the American political economy because it is a political economy, it's an economy in which government always plays a large role. This government is well, if we are at a point in our development when the American political economy is being reorganized. Then we are at also at a point in our history when an enlarged electorate, an electorate that included more women, more working people, especially poor workers. More of the poor might make a difference in shaping the policies which are going to govern our future. But an enlarged electorate would not make a difference by themselves. Because voter interests don't readily translate into policies for the reason that ordinarily business interests are much more effective in controlling the agenda of electoral politics much more effective than ordinary voters. For the reason that business interests are much more powerful in controlling the propaganda that surrounds electoral campaigns. For the reason that business interests make the very large contributions on which big money modern elections depend. And for that reason also that business wheels in political contests, the threat of disinvestment to threatening become more and more aware of in modern American politics. If you don't give us the policies we want we'll build our automobile plant in South Carolina or maybe in Mexico or maybe in Alside. However, photos sometimes do make a difference if and that is if movements arise, protest movements arise which break the grip that powerful interests ordinarily have on the definition of the issues. Purchase movements sometimes have emerged in American history have succeeded in raising new issues, have succeeded in polarizing public opinion, and that means electoral opinion, and have succeeded in creating sufficient trouble as to force new solutions to force solutions from the bottom onto the American political agenda. But movements in turn depend upon the possibility of broad electoral support. Movements are much more likely to emerge when the electoral alignment is favorable when political leaders, for example, needing to appeal to voters and needing appeal to a note... to voters who include now large numbers of working people of poor people or black people or women when those political leaders therefore generate a liberal political climate, which gives people hope, hope, nurtures protest movements, movements, protest movements are much more likely to survive when the fear that voters might disaffect restrains political leaders from using repression to stop movements and movements are much more likely to win when voter sympathies, the sympathies that the movements have been able to gain among the voting groups make political leaders vulnerable to their demands. All of which is to say that there's an interaction between political movements and electoral conditions and therefore electoral conditions really do matter. We should not dismiss as insignificant. The question of who is in the electorate and the question of who it is that democratic leaders or indeed Republican leaders who it is they depend upon. Consider for example, the great victories that were made by ordinary people in the United States in the 20th century. Consider the victories of the 1930s or the new deal. That was the period during which the first programs were inaugurated in this country. The very first programs to protect old people, to protect the employed, to provide income to some of the poor. It was the period during which for the first time, workers, one government protection of their right to collective bargaining. Up until that time, government including local government, state government and the federal government had sent police national guard and federal troops against striking workers. But in the 1930s with the passage of the Wagner act the federal government put its authority behind the right of workers to join unions and bargain collectively. Similarly in the thirties, the first national law was passed regulating minimum wages and maximum hours. Now there was a lot that was left to be done after the new deal. It was not nearly enough, but nevertheless, it was a kind of breakthrough because these different policies had always been resisted by business interests. And yet they were one in the new deal. How were they one? Well, in part, these policies were victories won by movements by the great movement of the unemployed which welled up in 1931 and 32, by the great strike movement among industrial workers which spread across the country between 1934 and 1937. But these movements emerged in the first place. They grew, they survived and they prevailed because Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the democratic party, was vulnerable to working class voters to the large numbers of working class voters that had entered the electorate and had entered the democratic party in 1932 and 1936. Those voters were the people whom the mutants appealed to. And it was out of fear of losing their allegiance that Roosevelt and the new deal responded to the demands of the movement. So consider a more recent period in American history. The 1960s, a period when the first civil rights legislation in more than a century was passed. And also a period when the programs the social welfare programs, first created in the 1930s, were greatly expanded. So they reached more people benefits became more decent and new programs like Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps were created. It was so not enough. There was still a great deal to be done in the United States. But black people in the American South had won voting rights. And because they did, the caste system in the South was destroyed. Black people were voting for the sheriffs, black sheriffs or white sheriffs that depend upon black voters do not endorse Lynch mops. Moreover, the availability of income and social services across the country eased somewhat a development which we're now feeling the brent off which is sometimes called the de-industrialization of the United States. But it was really the process of disinvestment from our old industrial centers. Think of how much more terrible it would have been, if the people who were beginning to lose their jobs in manufacturing and in associated services did not have the protections of unemployment insurance and food stamps and medicaid. Cause also, these were protections not only for poor people, but for working people as well. And these changes;the destruction of caste system in the South, the improvement of the programs of the new deal across the country were victories won by movements. And one mainly by the black movement, the civil rights movement, which was a black movement in the South and the poverty movement that arose among the urban blacks in the North. But those movements emerged. They survived and they prevailed because presidents like John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson depended for victory on the enlarging concentrations of black voters in the cities, in the cities that were the main base of democratic presidential contenders. So electoral politics is important although not of itself, not by itself. You have to allow me to say it's important but it's not the whole of the political possibilities for our future. And I think there is the real possibility the real opportunity that very large changes may occur in the American electoral system and that we activists everywhere in the country can help make those changes occur. In order to explain that, I have to discuss the phenomenon of non-voting in the United States a little bit more. First I said there were 76 million non-voters that it was the true majority party in the United States. That these people were really good but at the bottom when they were working people but poor working people, more likely to be unemployed. People would depend upon the social welfare programs, minorities. Well, it's a uniquely American phenomenon, this non-voting. Non-voting is higher in the United States than any other Western democracy. Interesting. And it's a 20th century American phenomenon. It's true that the eligible electorate was smaller in the 19th century, but a far larger proportion of those were eligible voted in the 19th century. Naturally enough, such a uniquely American phenomenon has attracted a lot of interest from among American political scientists. They wanna know why it's so that Americans don't vote. And in the course of wondering about this and writing articles and books about this they've developed a lot of explanations. Some of them are very bad explanations. For example, an explanation that held sway was very influential in the 1950s, much favorite was put forward by Almond Gabriel a book called \"The Civic culture\" and they argued that non-voting, was sort of interpreted to be the opposite of what it appeared to be. It looks like a kind of smudge, a mar on the American democracy. Doesn't it? Tarnished somehow something's wrong? They said, no, no, no, no high levels of abstention reflect the high level of consensus in the United States. And you can contrast therefore the United States with its high level of consensus, low level of voting with those ideologically polarized and extremist countries like Italy and France where a lot of people vote, but they're very fractious and a lot of disagreements, or to put it more simply there really isn't the necessity for people to vote here because they already agree with what's going on. Well, Almond and Verba, wouldn't say that today it should be said with all due respect to both of them, Verba in fact, has been among , has been on a number of teams that have produced a lot of the survey data in which we rely to show how wrong the generalizations from the 1950s are. The first the American electorate is becoming increasingly ideologically polarized, and then not surprisingly, the polarization is greatest among those groups who also have the highest rates of non-voting. Another explanation, one that still holds sway, tries to account for non-voting by looking at the social characteristics of the non-voters, you're familiar with this mode of explanation, it looks for the sort of the anomic or apathetic characteristics of people among this strata of the population and say says, well, it's because these attitudes are so prevalent or other characteristics are so prevalent among these strata that they don't vote. And of all the different variables that have been scrutinized. The one that is most preferred, attributes high rates of non-voting to low levels of education. That's a bad explanation too, because it fails to account for why people with substantially less education voted in the 19th century and why in the 20th century educational levels rose rates of voter participation dropped. And it also fails to account for why people with the same kinds... it's in the 19th century and the 20th century. That kind of contrast suggests something is different about institutions and Shut Schneider and Burnham together, tell us what it is that is different about American electoral institutions in the 20th century. They said, or you should construct an argument from their work, which says that there is such high level of non-participation in the American electoral system as a consequence of specific institutional arrangements in the United States. And those institutional arrangements can be traced to the election of 1896. In other words, specific changes were made in the American electoral system. They were made a specific historical time. Certain groups made them, we can point it. We can show all that. What happened in 1896 while the election of 1896, as most of you know, was an election in which the movement of Agrarian radicals called the populace had combined with the democratic party in a challenge to the corporate dominated Republican party. The populace had been defeated in their state movements and in their efforts to secure state legislation to answer their grievances. And it was that of those defeats that they turned to national politics and they made an effort to unite with industrial workers. In retrospect, we can say that the populace were dying class that this great thrust they made to gain national power was doomed, but we have 80 years of hindsight. Industrial leaders in this country were not so sure this was a dying class. In fact, they were panicked at the prospect. Burnham says that the populace would succeed in forging an Alliance with industrial workers. As a consequence, American corporations put out presidented amounts of money into the Republican campaign of 1896 under the leadership of Mark Hanna. And money combined with jingoism, crushed the challenge. In the aftermath of that terrible defeat, four major changes were made in American electoral politics which Shut Schneider and Burnham called the system of 1896. The first change really had to do with the destruction of two party competition. What evolved in the aftermath of that election was a kind of sectional one party system. The Republican party was the dominant party in the North. The democratic party had been destroyed. And the democratic party was the dominant party in the South. After 1896, Southern planters, the Bourbons, took control of the democratic party in the South just as corporate interests had taken control of the Republican party in the North. And together they gained control of the issue agenda of both parties. What are the significant things about the destruction of two party competition? Is that in American political history, the expansion of the electric has always occurred as a consequence of competition among the parties for support. That was how the franchise was expanded legally. And it was through the process of party competition that more and more people were actually enlisted as active voters. But with one party systems firmly under elite control in place in both the South and the North, there was no longer any need to enlarge the electorate. And in fact what began to happen was a process of systematic contraction of the electorate through the disenfranchisement of the troublesome lower orders. We all know about the legislation through which black people were disenfranchised in the South grandfather clauses, poll taxes literacy tests. Well, it wasn't only blacks who were disenfranchised. Half of white voters were disenfranchised in the South through such laws as well. Moreover, both in the North and in the South in the aftermath of 1896, voter registration procedures were made much more difficult much more clumsy, much more elaborate. We are so accustomed to our contemporary system of voter registration that it would treat it as a fact of nature. It's not a fact of nature in the 19th century. Both parties gave out balance. That's how people got to vote. In most of Western Europe. Voter registration is a very simple and matter of fact thing, and election day is on Sunday not on Tuesday when many working people still to this day have to work. But after 1896, it became much more difficult to vote, even to this day almost all States closed voter registration 30 days before voting day, before election day. In other words, they make an impossible to register to vote, once interest in the campaign has heated up. Finally, the local state and local organizations which had actually successfully enlisted the votes of industrial immigrant workers through much of the country and especially in the North, the political machines became the object of systematic attack by business interests after the election of 1896. Now there were other reasons for that. Municipal business back municipal reform didn't like the machines because the graft was expensive because their services were inefficient. But until 1896, they did not dare go after the machine in the wholesale way that they did later. What you all know the story or most of you know the story of the long drawn out municipal reform effort which we can emasculate at the machine by taking the jobs, the municipal jobs, that were the resources of the machine and putting them under civil service by taking whole agencies, city agencies that had been run by machines and putting them under expert commissioners by in some cases taking whole cities and putting them under commission or city manager governance by instituting non-partisan and city-wide elections which made it far more difficult for the machine to organize and control to vote. Together, these many faceted reform movements attack really on the American electoral system had the effect in the first decades of the 20th century, of driving down Voter participation. Well, how then could that be reversed? Here we live in a great democracy in which half the electorate does not join. And that half of the electorate is one might say the natural constituency by virtue of its class interests of the left. How might it be reversed? Well, political change, especially political change on that scale depends upon institutional conditions. It cannot be wished or willed into being, or rather can only partly be wished or willed into being. Our minds, our commitment have to work with and not against actual institutional possibilities. And the history I've just recited is important because it suggests those large, very large institutional possibilities. It suggests an effect that the barriers to electoral participation that were developed in the first decades of the 20th century have at least partly collapsed. First, it's after the election of 1896, the issue agenda of the political parties was purged of the kinds of economic issues that mattered to ordinary people. Well, since the 1930s and even more critically today, those kinds of issues have again been forcing themselves into electoral contests largely as a consequence of the expanded role of government in the economy. People see that government has a role. One Of the evidences for the centrality of the role of the economic wellbeing of ordinary people of unemployment for example, social security expenditures in elections is the expansion of social welfare programs themselves. They occurred obviously through politics they would not have occurred unless those sorts of issues were critical to the electorate. They are evidence of issue politics. Moreover, party competition has revived again. In the 1930s, the democratic party came alive again in the North. In the 19 late 1950s and 1960s, the Republican party came alive in the South as diehard segregationist bolted the democratic party in the wake of black civil rights protests. So there's party competition. And this one might've expected from earlier periods of American history. The fact that there was party competition has led to modest efforts to relax the procedural barriers that had earlier contracted the electorate. The 24th amendment was passed in the 1960s. The poll tax was in other words eliminated the civil rights act of 1964, the voting rights act of 65, the voting rights amendment of 1970 have also worked to eliminate many of the legal barriers to voter participation. And on the state level, many changes were made in voter registration. Many, many States including Iowa I believe, now permit registration by mail, for example, and other States permit the relatively easy and liberal deputizing of voter registrars. All of which suggests that maybe it is possible now to broaden electoral participation, but there's a problem. And the problem is that we lack an organizational vehicle through which to do it. It might seem that the democratic party should do it, but it won't. And the reason that it won't is that new voters today are much more threatening than they were in the 19th century. In the 19th century parties enlisted voters, largely especially in the cities, largely through machine politics, largely through a little bit of friendship, some favors, a little bit of protection. That was how politics was traded, policies were traded for voter allegiance. Machines were competitive. We have a kind of movie made image of the machine not made only by the movies, but also by Richard Daley as the machines is never facing competition. That isn't true. There was a lot of competition. And these machines, towns machines had to work at turning out the vote, keeping their voters loyal, and they did it. But they did it with gravy and with friendship. And those voters were no threat. You could enlist new voters. They never raised issues of any kind. But today machines are not significant. The American electorate is much more issue conscious. Issue politics is growing. All of the survey data indicate that, that the American electorate is much more ideological much more issue oriented in its voting is much more coherence and its positions. And that all of this is much more salient to the American electorate than it's ever been before. As a consequence, nine... All of these non-voters 76 million of them truly are an opportunity for the democratic party, but they're also a terrible danger. Because these new voters are likely to make the party vulnerable to new demands especially these new voters who are poor who are black, who are unemployed and especially these new voters at a time of economic crisis, when they're much more likely to be politicized when these issues are much more likely to be raised intensely, these new voters would threatened to fracture the democratic party. They would threaten to drive out the corporate contributions on which the parties still depends. They would threaten also to drive out the conservative constituencies in the South, for example, on which the party still depends. That's why the party, the democratic party has not worked to enlist this constituency and that's why it's not likely to do it now. If, but perhaps it can be done anyway. Perhaps the developments like the last 50 years and most particularly, perhaps the elaboration in the United States have a great array of social welfare programs provide the opportunity both ideologically and organizationally to organize to enlist this potential electorate. First, the development of these social welfare programs represents in the United States a very large transformation about government of our society at that political economy. 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36589/file/105670/transcript/22607/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Reagan has made these programs a very important issue by trying to cut on employment benefits and trying to cut the AFTC benefits and food stamp benefits in the midst of an economic crisis. He's dramatize the issues raised by these programs. These programs raise issues. These programs also bring together people. They bring together people in the course of receiving services. In the course of receiving benefits people sit in waiting rooms. They wait online, they come together. In other words, these programs in a sense organized people. And these people, all these programs also create a vast network of linkages between people who work in the programs, human service workers of various kinds and people who are the beneficiaries of both the benefits in the services distributed by these programs. And non-voters are concentrated among the beneficiaries of these programs. These programs in other words create a range of political resources, which may make it possible to reach and lift a very substantial proportion of the non-voters. Reagan may have already begun to do that by making cuts in these programs in the context of an economic crisis. And justifying what he was doing with great moving land drama. Reagan may have played a very large role in increasing voter turnout in 1982. But what if, what if, a lot of the activist groups that are trying to use the electoral system to reverse the development since 1980, also tried to make use of these organizational opportunities. What do you think contrast to the voter registration campaigns of our memory? The kind that the league of women voters in every town always used to do, another good governance groups. Where you say, well, please vote, it's your duty, it's your right, it's your obligation to vote. You ring every door, every doorbell, you're knock on every door, you give the most boring reasons for people to vote. You spend endless amounts of time going up one set of stairs and up another set of stairs, mostly talking to people who already vote, right? Cause they have the nice houses that you want, where you wanna ring the doorbell. What is in contrast to those voter registration campaigns. We do voter registration campaigns where we specifically raise the issues of the welfare state, having to do with unemployment insurance benefits or jobs programs or AFTC benefits or food stamps or disability benefits. And we say, that's why you should vote. You should vote for jobs. You should vote to protect your medicare. You should vote to protect your low income energy assistance grants so you don't phrase next Winter. And what if instead of this very random and costly and inefficient door knocking voter registration, we took advantage of the concentrations of people created by the welfare state, in the waiting on the rooms, on lines, in the check cashing places, in poor neighborhoods. And what if, maybe this is the most important part opportunity. What if at least some of the millions of people who work in the welfare state agencies undertook to register the tens of millions of people who are the beneficiaries of these programs. What if they use the fact that they see these people every day in the daycare centers, in the hospitals, in the welfare centers. It's true in the past, these groups have often been antagonists. But political life is like that, you finance some issues, now they are common issues. And the common issues have to do with the fact that human service work is by the way the majority of whom are women. That's where women made their largest occupational gains over the last decade. Those jobs, their jobs, human service workers, their jobs are on the line. That the Reagan administration succeeds in its program for dismantling the social welfare programs, it will succeed in eliminating women's jobs while increasing of course male jobs in the defense sector. And their dignity is that stake. The rate at which the Reagan administration argues that you make a bigger contribution to your country when you sell used cars than when you provide daycare services. Well, that's not true. And a lot of the people work in these agencies know it's not true. And really do want a chance to say it's not true. They might become voter registrars. Well, that would be a beginning. Remember there are 76 million non-voters. Presidential elections have often won or lost by less than a million. So even at the beginning would begin to make a lot of ears prick, a lot of reactions. Usually politicians don't pay any attention to voter registration. That's something that nice ladies do. But if we began to do it on a scale, that seemed as though it could matter, they would react. Republican politicians would react, you can be sure. Business groups would react because they would worry that a democratic party that included very large numbers of low income people would become tougher on the economic issues and tougher on the social welfare issues. A lot of local politicians who were Democrats wouldn't like it either, because their organizations depend upon black people and Hispanic people not voting. That's true in my town, New York city, a town which has a majority of blacks and Latins. But where, Ed Kotch is mayor because they didn't vote. Well, these people would try to stop this voter registration campaign. If volunteers were registering welfare recipients in AFTC centers, they would try to kick them out. That's already happened in Chicago, saying they're disrupting the giving of services, perhaps. The law is on our side, but it would take a while until you could get a legal room. If social workers, human service workers, mental health workers were registering their clients perhaps in their lunch hours or in their coffee breaks, they would be disciplined, there would be efforts to discipline them for doing that. Most important, what they would really try to do, cause these other things are hard to do, they would try to make voter registration more restrictive again. They would try to restore the cumbersome procedures of the early part of the 20th century, which disenfranchised poor people in the first place. And they would say the reason they were doing that, the reason that had to be done, the reason mail registration had to be eliminated, the reason that you had to be very careful about deputizing, anybody to be a registrar, they would say the reason that was so important is that liberal procedures lend themselves to fraud and manipulation. But, but, there are answers to those arguments. There are counter arguments to be made. Can they really now in the end of the 20th century restrict voter participation, legally procedurally? By those very actions, their opposition would reveal, because action conflict is a powerful communicator, that there are economic stakes in who votes and who does not vote. And the counter arguments could be made to say that, that they don't want these people. They don't want poor people to vote. They don't want people to depend who upon the social services to vote precisely because they will vote their interests. They are trying to restrict the political rights of poor people and working people and minorities and of women. They are trying to restrict the political rights of these people in order to protect their economic privilege and to prevent political rights being used to defend economic rights. Well, that kind of fight my clarify a conflict. May clarify the stakes in the conflict. That kind of fight would probably broadcast the message of what was at issue in the American Electoral System. That kind of conflict, if we aren't joint, the people fought back, that kind of conflict might well have the effect of bringing not a million people into the electoral system, and that's enough to win the election. But five or 10 or 15 million of the great reservoir of 76 million working, poor, minority people who are not now in the American political system. And if that many new voters came into the American electoral system, then there would be the real possibility of a realigned democratic party. A party whose named base was among working people and poor people among minorities among women. That of course would not be the whole of an answer to the economic crisis. We also need a program. We need a left-wing program for dealing with the crisis. And we need movements, in search and protest movements to fight for that program. But a realigned Democratic Party would provide the context which would nourish efforts to develop a program for reconstructing the economy in ways that will generate jobs and income for ordinary Americans. And the realigned Democratic Party would also nourish, give hope to and protection to protest movements, the protest movements which we will need in the coming years in the United States. Thank you. Kathy tells me we go till nine 30, so we have time for questions. Are there comments? Counter-arguments? Yes.\r\n\r\n- They say that a lot of students do not . Do you have any comment on that?\r\n\r\n- That's true too. Young people don't vote in the same proportions that older people vote. what comment do I have a bout it? Well, I would not target a voter registration campaign toward the young because I do think the class interests of the young are as clear. No, it's true. It is true, that unemployment is not much greater among the young and in that sense, they do have an interest in a different approach to the economic crisis. But for example, if you were to tell me and it probably is the case that, Dartmouth college there are a lot of people not registered at Dartmouth college. I wouldn't try to register them let somebody else try to register them. For the reason that their votes will be divided. Suddenly you can, the Republican right is trying to do voter registration. They always have. They did it in 1982. They don't have the advantage that liberals in the left have because there isn't a great reservoir of non-voters on the right that there is on the liberal end of the spectrum. Yes.\r\n\r\n- You mentioned that What preparation do, located in Mexico\r\n\r\n- Yeah, there, it's problems, it's improper by the way, it's important technical problem. The problem with figuring out the kinds of leavers that we do have politically, democratically through government on corporate capital. It's more importantly, however, a political problem. There are some countries, most countries, I would say, even France, who are very weak in the face of the threat of disinvestment because the nation states France is rather small in the world economy. But the United States is not small in the world economy. It's very large in the world economy. And it has a number of very important potential weapons to use against a capital threatening to disinvest. The first and most important weapon of course would be to freeze capital investments in this country and to hold them hostage, to any attempt to evade the freeze, to hold assets that were still here hostage to any attempts to evade the freeze, to hold access to American markets, hostage to corporate policies with regard to investment, would be another approach. There is a great deal of wealth in this country and you are very big markets in this country. We do have some ability, I think, probably we're one of the few countries in the world that does have some ability to deal with a mobile capital in the context of an international economy. Question is whether we are willing, our political leaders are willing to take the risks involved in doing that. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Last week I heard Richard Clarke and essentially making the same arguments as you are but in both lectures what I feel is missing is some vision for the programs of the\r\n\r\n- Well, I wanted first say what I was trying to do to not tonight. Tonight I was trying to talk about a strategy for empowerment. I was not trying to talk about program. And I said that very clearly at the end. I think we need to develop a program, I have only a general direction. I think that the left has been weak on protection. If we call them crumbs, we play into the hands of those who attack them now. The ways in which they are important at first; we're somewhat more humane country when, as a consequence of the new deal in the 1960s, we finally joined the family of Western democratic countries who had programs to protect their old, to protect their unemployed, to protect their disabled, to provide some healthcare. That just brought us into the realm of normal people, right? That's what all of Western Europe had been doing, developing for decades. That was it a good thing to do for the most obvious reason not for any fancy analytical reason, but because the society is more decent when it's most vulnerable people are not exposed to a margin in which vulnerable people are always treated very badly. How was it when old people had to survive by selling their labor? That was only 20, 30 years ago. What do you think they got for their troubles from employers? We're a more decent society when we don't make the old do that. And we don't make the crippled do that. And we don't make impoverished mothers of small children do that. I don't call that crumbs, I don't have any right to call that crumbs, cause I'm not crippled and I'm not old. Second, and this is more important. This is your systemic argument. It has turned out that the expansion of those programs have had a very important effect on the distribution of economic power in the United States. And that is why they are being attacked. Those programs grew until by 1982, $400 billion was being spent in this country on income maintenance program of various kinds. Those programs reduced insecurity, I said there was a humane reason for doing that. But there's also a power reason for doing that. And the power reason is quickly recognizable. The great weapon that employers have always had over working people has been the threat of job loss. The threat of unemployment. That threat is diminished when a worker knows that if he or she gets fired, they'll get unemployment insurance and food stamps and medicare. And if that runs out, maybe they can even get AFTC. And when they are unemployed already, they're much less likely to panic, to become desperate and to take any job no matter what the terms because they do have some protections. It's not with great insight, to say insecurity and security have to do with power. The expansion of these programs, those security, the income protection they gave working people, somewhat buffer it, somewhat moderated the power that employers had over working people, particularly during periods of high unemployment. That's one of the reasons that these programs have been singled out for attack. It was no small victory. And it wasn't just kindness either, although I'm not against kindness and decency. But it wasn't just that. The programs really have affected power relations in the United States. And have affected power relations in the United States in a way that strengthens people at the bottom. Increasingly through the 1970s, those people at the bottom of the American workforce, were women and minorities, but women. The great expansion in the American labor market occurred in the low wage service sector; fast foods, hospitals, office cleaning. Those were women's jobs, they were irregular, they were badly paid. Those women were not unionized. For women workers of this kind, social welfare programs had an enormous importance because they were the only source of protection in their relations with employers. So, yes we have to move forward. There are real problems in this country. We do need a program for controlling investment. But in the course of developing that those programs, we should not underestimate what has already been accomplished and what is that risk now as a consequence of the attack of the Republican right. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Why would those 76 million non-voters make a great socialist party and that one not work within the democratic party? There hasn't, that since 1970, he hasn't done anything. They can't vote for the a left wing faction of the Republican party, give them a real carpet. And it's historically proved in 1912 and 1920, and 30, when they were over a million votes to be cast for the socialist party. It pushed the Democratic Party to the left. That doesn't exist any more\r\n\r\n- Well, I think I proposed a strategy that would force the Democratic Party to the left and would make it the equivalent of the European social democratic parties, perhaps the Swedish party. But why not? You're saying start from scratch, why?\r\n\r\n- There is one now, there exist a socialist party.\r\n\r\n- Excuse, can I, can I finish? The third party politics are extremely difficult. I don't know what you mean by the way but just you can tell me after I finish. Third party politics are very difficult in the American political structure. For the reason that, we have winner take all districts, we don't have proportional representation. So third party can't survive and grow while it wins more and more support. A party has to be very, very large before it wins and it has to be a majority before it wins any given election. This makes it very hard to start a third party. Always was but it's harder now than never because party politics is so expensive. The propaganda machines are enormously costly. Some of you may have paid some attention to the Citizens Party effort in 1976, for example, that did have some money back in, but it was puny compared to the amounts money that we're rolling into the major parties. What socialist party?\r\n\r\n- Socialist party, let's say-\r\n\r\n- I don't consider it.\r\n\r\n- Is a fraction of that broke away from the Democrat party. It was the party that, Eugene V.Debs\r\n\r\n- Yeah, but, well, I think that, Eugene V. Debs was viable on the socialist party of Eugene V. Debs was viable. I know, I don't consider it partly for the reasons that I'm saying that socialist party is a viable alternative for Americans today. I also think we have to pay attention. We have to pay attention to the mixed meaning of the term socialist in American political culture for good reasons as well as for bad reasons. Some of the reasons that bad, it's because we've been brainwashed by red hunters, some of the reasons are good. However, it's because Americans have paid some attention to developments in countries that have called themselves socialists and they don't like it. So that we have a very mixed heritage, a very mixed kind of baggage with that word. I like the word democracy fine myself. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Can you give some\r\n\r\n- Some what?\r\n\r\n- they're trying to increase the electorate.\r\n\r\n- They are trying to increase the electorate? Oh, yeah. Well, we have been working in New York city to develop a kind of loose coalition, calling meetings. And we have brought together, under the auspice of a plan to do a drive of the kind I described starting this May. We brought together public service unions. That's unions of public workers, the NAACP, the Urban League, the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists, District 65, the Planned Parenthood, an incredible number of organizations of the disabled, peace groups, Women USA. I'm trying to remember who else. The Community Council which is a coalition of social agencies. I'm sure I've forgotten some of the groups that are involved. We've been absolutely bowled over by the excitement that our proposal is generated. We've also been talking to national groups including DSA Democratic Socialists of America, National Urban League and national NAACP is committed to it. National Planned Parenthood is formally committed. National Acorn is working on it. And we're optimistic that maybe can make a difference. But you should understand that I did not present this either, certainly it's not a program for the future. It's a strategy for gaining some power but it's not a complete strategy. It's part of any strategy for gaining power. Yes, in the back.\r\n\r\n- you don't have power, for gaining power, you mentioned something else, something like that, .\r\n\r\n- I didn't.\r\n\r\n- I mean you said to them . So I'm just curious, wondering if you would expand on that . What else should be expected? .\r\n\r\n- Well, I think it will be a fight. I don't think that you would win anything, without a fight. I think that, the populous were defeated in 1896 in effect, most of the struggles of American family farmers have really from the beginning of the Republic been defeated or at least partly defeated. The populists, I think could be defeated in part because they were a declining group. They were shrinking group. They were shrinking partly because of the grievances. They were being forced out by high railroad rates and high granary rates. They were being built and that was destroying them. The, question I suppose, that you're raising is a question of could their be, could such an effort precipitate our reaction, maybe a terrible reaction. Well, you know, I can't guarantee to you that that will not happen. There are no guarantees. But if you care of yourself, if you fear to struggle always because things might get worse. Even before you've identified the great ominous force that will make it worse, before you specify the force, that will make it worse. If you always raise for yourselves and for others in front of the people who really look to us for definitions of their situation, if you will always raise the threat of reaction or even of American fascism, then you've do the possibility of democracy by anticipating fascism. Yes\r\n\r\n- You mentioned about three or four different organizations trying to apply in a coalition government . Are you saying there's in terms of changing the situation? I think it's because you talked about 76 million non-voters. We have to figure out how many of those are of black people. And let's remember that the last 300 years black people have been this franchised. So the motivation is not there And this is a great problem, for both party because they rely upon them like voters. And when election day come they bribe voters because this only for the election time. In the state of Iowa, we take just a couple of months ago, we had our first black legislator. Now when we come back to New York, can you bring that ?\r\n\r\n- Well, first was there 76 million non-voters? I kept using that number to indicate to you the scale of the potential reservoir. Therefore, the massive force, the untapped force that existed in electoral politics, acknowledging the limitations of electoral politics. I can't tell you off the top of my head. We could find out, we could estimate soon enough how many are black. But you're saying that black people are not motivated to vote. I think the experience really, some of the experiences that we've had recently, challenges that assertion. I think black people have become very cynical about American politics, that far I'll go with you. However, we know from primary elections in New York city, for example. That when black count candidates are in the primaries, local elections now. Black candidates in the primaries for the contest for Borough, president of Manhattan. Not one of your most important offices in this world, or in the contest for the minority, for example. Black turnout is very high, when the black candidates lose the primaries, black participation goes down in the general election. There is certainly some evidence to indicate the blacks vote. When they see a reason to vote. Look at black turnout in the South. It's not so low. I think black turnout in the South is at least equal with white turnout in the South if not higher. Or look at what has been happening, what happened to black turnout in 1982? It began to go up. Or now in Chicago, there is a chance, just a chance that a black man may win the minority in Chicago. Blacks have been registering to vote. Give them a chance to win something through politics, black people are as purposeful and political as any other people and of course, that's true. The fact that they're smarter than the rest of us a lot of the time, a little bit more cynical, we have to acknowledge that as well. By the way, that's true. The kind of sophistication, the surveys show that blacks have gained from the movement experience of the 1960s is not parallel by any other group in the United States. Somebody, yes.\r\n\r\n- Having not been won of the 76 million people for the last 20 years but of having voted every two years for the last 20 years. And every time I've come to vote, I've not wanted to vote, but I felt it's my to vote, right? I had not wanted to because by the time I get there, my candidate or candidates had gone so far to the right that I can't stomach them, but the opposition is worse. What motivation do I have to vote any more? And it comes to year, after year, after year.\r\n\r\n- Absolutely.\r\n\r\n- At some point I'm gonna end up being one of the 76 million people and keep on staying at home.\r\n\r\n- One of the reasons that we are talking about beginning voter registration now. This is an odd time, after all there isn't gonna be an election for almost a year and three quarters. Is cause we wanna change the primaries. We wanna change the quality of the campaign, the politics of the campaign. We wanna to try. Maybe we won't do it by 84, we'll try to do it by 88. We wanna try to bring enough poor people, enough women, enough minorities into the electorate to force ambitious opportunistic politicians, to speak to their issues in the primary, in the debates. We're gonna try. But I agree there isn't, voting between choosing between, I mean, choosing between Carter and Ford was not a pleasure.\r\n\r\n- Just take one more.\r\n\r\n- Just one more.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, several people raised question like, what is the dream? We talk about, so we say the crumbs. And then, you've given the crumbs idea but what's the dream beyond basic minimum of human living? What are some of us thinking? I think that's the kind of thing that catches the imagination of the voter, who walks by the street and says, \"My daughter, it's the same thing . My mom was the same thing.\" What are some of those dreams? Other than just what we normally heard Democrat , in terms of social, kind of a contribution. What are some of those dreams? What are some of the possibilities? What are some of your dreams?\r\n\r\n- Well, my dream is to enlarge popular control over corporate power. Democratic control over corporate power, that's the essence of my dream. It's not such a romantic dream. It isn't a dream of decentralization. I'm not a big decentralizer because I think decentralized works to concentrate the politics of ordinary people at local levels where there really isn't much power. The big organizations that are running our country in the world are centralized organizations. We have to develop ways of having some democratic control over these centralized organizations. But I think that the old questions of economic security and decency are still very important. That's why people, the polls show that's why people voted as they did in 80. And the polls showed that that's been a critical issue to people, economic security and economic decency. Well, that also has to do with a more noble vision. And it's a democratic vision. If economic security and wellbeing of ordinary people requires the curving of gross uncontrollable, insatiable power. That isn't simply a materialistic vision, that is also a democratic vision. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36589/file/105670#t=0.0,2377.32571"}]}]}]}