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I think about libel law is that it has a domino effect. And the people will bring these suits some of them know exactly, that that's what's gonna happen. They don't necessarily bring them to win. They may bring them to harass or they may bring them to shut other people up. And I'll give you an example of that. Floyd Abrams is I guess the leading first amendment Paladin in the country. He's handled most of the important press suits for CBS and the New York Times. And he was brought in by the Times because McDonald Douglas corporation, sued the New York Times and Robert Cheryl who was a freelance journalist of Washington correspondent for various papers like the Nation. And you know, if he's a Washington correspondent for the Nation, they didn't expect to collect from him either for $25 million in defamation damages. This is back in 76. What did Cheryl Dunder written this accolade? He'd written a what turned out to be a cover piece for the New York Times book review. About two books and each had to do with the 1974 crash of a Turkish Airlines DC 10 published with a boy, manufactured by McDonald Douglas, outside of Paris. It was a horrific crash, 346 people killed and the writers indicated rather strongly that there was a certain amount of culpability in that crash. Not only in terms of the American ho-ho regulatory agencies that passed the plane, but McDonald Douglas of course itself. The head of the review in the Times was the cheap door that costs 346 lives. Okay, they filed a suit, 25 million bucks and nothing happens. Weeks go by, months go by, nothing happens. So Abraham's finally decides that maybe he's figuring out what's going on. He asked one of his clerks, he said \"would you do something for me? \"Would you check the newspaper and magazine reviews \"of those two books that appeared \"anywhere in the country, \"after McDonald Douglas had announced \"it's libel suit?\" This was about six, seven months later only two small newspapers which obviously hadn't heard news, had published reviews which is precisely, which was precisely the purpose of the suit. So it was never the suit, the suit just died, but it effect at work. Now, the I think rather than start with the libel law itself, let me start father on and come back to that. This is a case I expect more of you have heard about. Herbert versus Lando, decided by the Supreme court in 1979. Do you know the background of the case? All right, I'll give it to you briefly. This came out of 60 minutes, which I'm sure you know. Barry Lando was the producer of a segment on Colonel Herbert, Colonel Anthony. Mike Wallace was the questioner, or as privet was later to say the Torquemada and the suit was brought for millions of dollars. It's still pending by the way, the processes are still going against Mike. I'm sure his contract works the other way from that of us authors, I'm sure CBS pays all his fees if he loses, against Wallace, against Lando and against CBS. Herbert had been a kind of hero of the anti-war movement. He had served in Vietnam, he had after a time declared that his offices there had hidden atrocities by the Americans and by the South Vietnamese. And he came back to the United States and he wrote a book and the book was doing pretty well, which is why he wanted to go on 60 minutes to make it do even better, which everybody wants to do no matter what their ideological persuasion. And that program was vicious, I must say, I'm not in court so I can say it. They tore him apart. They made it out as if you were a liar, absolute liar, and a fraud, and an opportunist and brutal if anybody committed war crimes, and he sued, as I said. On the lower court Herbert's lawyers who are very clever fellows and have since picked up a thriving libel practice, offered this notion. Now I'll go back a bit. That was in 1964, a decision by the Supreme court that was hailed at the time by the press, by a number of constitutional scholars, by even some reporters who could read Supreme court decisions. As an a stunning blow for advance in Liberty for the press, that decision said it was called New York Times versus Sullivan. Sullivan was a police official in Alabama, in Montgomery. Actually, all of Alabama, who sued the New York Times because an ad he said had defamed him. Ad didn't name him, but everybody he knew, and his relatives and friends all knew who it was. And he was awarded a huge sum of money in the Alabama courts and the Supreme court reversed it and said very explicitly, and that there are some limitations. There have to be some limitations in the law of libel that even if you and they didn't say that this was the case, although there were some errors in the ad but let us assume, even if you write something falsely about a public official, in the interests of a robust discussion of public issues and the whole uninhibited flow of information and ideas, and sometimes the two part of ideas that are endemic to the first amendment, it should be harder for a public official to sue for libel. And they set up a test the Supreme court, it was called the test of actual malice. This does not mean malice in the sense that you or I use malice, like yo will spite whatever, this meant that the public official to win a libel case against the press, let's say not, no not only the press, had to prove that what was falsely written about him was written or published either with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard as to whether it was true or false. That's actual malice. It's a higher burden of proof in the other for you and me a private citizens. Although I guess I'm a public figure, I don't know if that's good or bad I'll have to figure that out. But anyway, for private suits and depending on the laws of the state, generally just have to prove negligence. You certainly don't have to prove actual malice. So that seemed to be a big win. Gradually the court included not only public officials but public figures, public figure can be somebody who was pervasively a public figure, I mean, he's ubiquitously, everybody knows him like Bill Buckley or Phyllis Schlafly or Richard Milhous Nixon, can't deny they're public figures. Or a public figure can be somebody who got involved in the vortex of a particular case, a particular event, and for the purposes or duration of that event he or she has a public figure too. So they had a harder job to sue for liable, they had to prove actual malice. Then they began a narrow the definition and I'll come to that later. It's now so narrow it's very hard to tell if anybody is a public figure anymore. So it's a lot easier for people to sue for liable but the Herbert case was another kind of ballgame. And it is chilling in the lower court, Herman's lawyer said, we gotta prove actual malice huh? We gotta prove they either knew it was false or they want to add reckless disregard. That means we got to find out what they were thinking, right? So we have a right to get these people in pretrial deposition, when you ask questions of the other side. We have a right to ask such questions of Mike Wallace and Barry Lando, the producer, questions like this. By the way, the transcript you tell you it's as if they're that Wallace was mom and Lando wouldn't cooperate. Before they got to these questions, there had been 2,903 pages of transcript before they went to trial, it costs a lot of money. But the questions, the state of mind questions were things like, what was the basis for your decision to interview one soldier three times, and not to interview another soldier at all? Why did you include a statement by one person concerning Herbert's treatment of the Vietnamese which was negative to him, and somebody you didn't ask his cousin or something? Why was certain other material left out of the program? What were the conversations from the beginning of the time you first thought of the possibility of doing a segment of 16 minutes on Colonel Herbert, what would the conversations be? Let's see the inter-office memos, what conversations do you remember between Lando and Mike Wallace and other people on the show? With regard, particularly to material that you decided to try to get and later on material that you decided to exclude or include and for what reasons? This as they say, gets to the heart of the editorial process. It means as the appellate court said, the second circuit court of appeals is like having a judge in the newsroom to decide at any given point, whether one is being reckless or knowingly false or whatever. That argument was thrown out by the second circuit court of appeals and probably the strongest opinion that that court has ever come down with. Supreme courts, let it stand. State of the mind questions are now allowed. I saw Walter Cronkite at a press meeting about two days after the decision came down, and he said the day, yesterday, the day right after the decision, I was listening to our editorial conference at CBS in a way that I had never listened to it before, because and that's a chilling effect right there. I realized that if those conversations were ever taped and played back in a libel suit, we'd have no defense. Most of the first amendment lawyers, except for Floyd Abrams, who I guess to his credit has more friends among journalists than among lawyers, he knows what this is about. Most first amendment lawyers, including our own lawyer at the voice says, this is not an important decision, don't worry about it. Let me give you an idea of the typical and I mean, typical exchange between an editor and a reporter at the voice the same thing at the Washington post or wherever. But this is fresh in mind because the woman who covers criminal justice for us came back a couple of days ago from an interview with an official in mayor, at Conscious Administration. And the editor said is that motherfucker still alive? And she said, sure have you ever known him to tell the truth? All right, that's all you need before the jury forget everything else, that's it. But that standard does that mean that... I mean, you go you interview somebody because you wanna try to get some kind of information from him, but at least have him rebut or try to rebut things you want to say. Sometimes and this was one of the purposes of we're going to see him, she wanted to find out who had prepared the mayors recommendations for the state legislature in criminal law. Such marvelous innovations is the end of the presumption of innocence. I'm not kidding it. And the end of the exclusionary rule cops break into a house without a warrant, they have no business being there but they got the evidence. If they did it in good faith, you can use it in a trial. She wanted to find out who would thought up these marvelous things. And maybe he told her the truth and maybe he didn't, but at least she can start moving from there. But I think on the face of it, you can begin to understand that this in terms of, of self-censorship, this is a dangerous kind of way for the court to intrude on to indeed the editorial processes. Another problem with it is that I talked about the 2000 and something tramp pages of transcript, before the trial ever began, in the libel case of Herbert vs CBS. If you get into these state of mind questions, those pretrial sessions with a lawyer's clock going I mean, you're all lawyers clock going. The very few pro bono lawyers in terms of the first amendment when it comes to a profit making enterprise even if the profit is minimal. How many weeks of pretrial discovery? For example can the nation afford? Or the progressive or Commonweal? Of course, we belong to Rupert Murdoch. That means he shut us down in three days figuring why waste the time. One of the dissenters in that case, the Herbert be Atlanta Potter Stewart, Potter Stewart is a very vexing man. He is sometimes the paradigm of the justice who understands the working press and what we need to to fulfill our sacred responsibilities to all of you. And other times he doesn't understand anything at all, but in this case he understood. And he said that this tendency towards self-censorship that when it, you know, electively flow from this kind of decision, will now be intensified so long as any plaintiff with a deep pocket is afforded unconstrained discovery of the editorial process. Now, let me go on to my last two examples of what happens when you fool with the first amendment. One has to do this is not a Supreme court situation but I maintain that it exists because of the courts up to escape automat on matters of the first amendment, that's the case of Ralph Nader and Ralph Patala Donald. The first Ralph, you know, the second Ralph, you are not likely to know unless you were a white right-winger or unless you like jazz and are about 55 years old and remember his books. The Tadano is a columnist, he's a syndicated columnist, I think about 70 or 80 papers carry him. He is a pain in the ass to most people on the left and even on the center, and even to me, well that's all right. Most people on the left her pain to me whenever it doesn't matter, that's not the point. The point is he's not liked. He is not liked, not even by most conservatives. I try to get bill Buckley into his case and forget it. Anyway, this was a column that was critical of Ralph Nader, I won't go into all the details 'cause the time is such, but it was critical of Ralph Nader. You're gonna have to go on faith on me and when I tell you this or else I'm going to give you all the details afterwards there is no way, no way under the law that Nader as a public figure can win this libel suit if it's ever tried, no way. He knows it, his lawyer certainly knows it. 'Cause his lawyer said so to Teledonna's lawyer wouldn't the Teledonna could afford a lawyer. So why is he doing this? This is a case that is more than five years old. He's doing it to punish Ralph Teledonna for having had the temerity to be nasty to Ralph Nader in public. I will leave as an aside that Nader's entire career and I am an admirer of much, not all but much of what he does, is based on access to freedom of information, is based by the way and read very contumacious public statements both orally and in print by ma by Nader. Like for example, when Nader was attacking the educational testing service last year, which I think was a pyrrhic victory, but nevermind. He said that ETS has claims to measure aptitude and predict success in college are false and unsubstantiated, and can be described as a specialized kind of fraud. No mitigating language there. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am, it's all right there. That's all... That's even harder than the Telledonna was with him, five years have gone by the Telledonna has lost $25,000 in legal costs. He is now living on borrowed money. He has been silenced in terms of Nadir because the new service, the Copley news service is so terrorized that Nadir might hit another suit. That it has forbidden the Tellodonald from even mentioning Nader's name, even if it's a panegyric, which is unlikely, but it might be, he use Nader's name just to test it out about a year ago in a column, it really wasn't... It was kind of praise, it must have killed the Telledanold. Came back with the name out. So in that respect, Nadir is already like McDonald aircraft Nader has already won. He has stifled the speech of at least one dissenter to send the rest of the sainthood of Nadir. And this is the kind of thing then anybody with some power and some funds, I mean, Nadir just organizationally has more money than the Tellonado can do. By the way, the case has not been brought to trial. All the various due process, maneuvers have gone through the Supreme court refused to grant cert on the question of summary judgment. I won't even go into that unless you wanna learn it, but any case, all this stuff has been done. So you think Nadir might wanna bring it to trial? No, I'd rather keep them, what was that phrase? Drifting slowly in the wind, could do it for another five, while they can't do it another five years but 'cause the courts eventually will say what the hell is going on? But it's a very effective job so far. Punishing and destroying speech, freedom of speech through the libel law. Okay, one last illustration, there is a case in Ohio. There are many weird cases that come through and escape notice and escape review by the Supreme court. One was a case I've written about and I gathered the Moines register, published something one of or two of my pieces on it recently, the case of Frank Kesa, who was convicted and is now in prison because his fingerprints were on several pages of a book period, period. There was no other evidence against the man. It was a criminal conspiracy to blow up an army Depot and an army installation and a Navy installation. He was put on trial with some people they were convicted of all these counts. He was convicted of the kind of conspiracy based on the fact that his fingerprints were on the pages of a book, an anthology about revolution. And the prosecutor had him read before the jury passages from those pages on which his fingerprints appeared. The rhetoric was rather gamey, had to do with guns and blood and all that. And the prosecutor did summation said of the jury seat. He was reading a book that advocated exactly what he later went on to do. And he's now in a federal pen in California Supreme court refused certain, nobody knows why. He can't resist one footnote, he came up for parole recently, or at least he applied for parole on the regional level out there. And the commissioners came in and one of them said \"Mr. Geese, forgive me for asking you this \"but can you tell me again what it is you're in for? \"We can't really make clear what it is.\" Then they denied parole, but this case is another one that is escape notice. The case out of Ohio, called Lorraine journal versus Milkovich just summarize rather briefly. So a libel suit brought by a high school wrestling coach reporter and his newspaper are the defendants. Case went to the essentially what the thing is, they had a wrestling match between two high schools. And this coach, his team was losing, and in the spirit of American fair play, he helped foment a riot. Egged on his teammates and the folks in the stand and all like that and as a result, the team was suspended from a state play for, I think a year and a half or two years. And he was reprimanded and whatever. And there was a local reporter who was there and who wrote what had happened. And then the coach went before a lower court judge not on the nothing to do with the newspaper or the report, nothing to do with libel. This was a motion to get the state Athletic Association to remove the suspension, so the kids could go and wrestle them form amount a riot somewhere else before the year was up. And that judge only dealing with the lifting of the suspension, believed the coach that there had been, no, he had nothing to do with the riot, it was just one of those natural forces of nature and nothing had gone wrong. He believed the judge and he lifted the suspension. Okay, soon as that happen, coach goes into court sues the paper and the reporter for the usual 53,000 million dollars or whatever they get to asked for. And it was finally decided by the whole hierarchy of courts in Ohio, except for the first one. The first time this case reached the judge he had a jury hear the facts, and then he sent the jury home and he said, this is ridiculous. Under times V Solomon poaches a public figure, where's the actual malice? Where his knowledge of falsehood? He was there. Where his reckless disregard of the facts? I'm I stupid, oh no case. Coach appealed every goddamn court in Ohio decided the case has to go to trial because this other judge in the case that had to do with lifting of the suspension, had believed the coach. Therefore there had been a judicial finding of truth, you follow you me? As long as a judge any judge at all, finds that in this case the coach told the truth, that's enough on the face of a actual malice case. The judges now determine truth for everybody. The consequences of this are just enormous, I mean, just enormous. I won't go into the home Galia, but I have been writing to no avail about a terrible case in the Bronx in New York, in which an off-duty policemen killed two unarmed Puerto Ricans at a neighborhood bar with his service revolver. The shots were in the back, okay. He was acquitted. There had been a judicial finding at least through the jury but in the court of truth in this matter. And if I were in the state of Ohio, I might have a whole lot of trouble about in some of the columns that I've been writing since then. I mean, suppose you have... Suppose a newspaper has information as we had on the voice for all the good it did us on our distinguished new Senator, Alfonse D'Amato. We had corruption information. We printed it every everywhere we could if at any point in the line of that whole thing there had been a judicial finding, that D'Amato was telling the truth, it could be a judge that he happened to put on a bench himself personally by hand. Then we either should, would have to keep quiet for fear of an enormous libel suit, or we'd go ahead, and even if we won the libel suit later, again the expenses, it's a crazy decision. It went up to the Supreme court for review only one justice wanted to hear the case, and that was William Brennan. And he said, he too said, I'm paraphrasing rather liberally here this crazy decision, this holding, I'm not paraphrasing at this point. This holding is clearly contrary to the first amendment and to the relevant precedents of this court. Lots of luck. Now the Lorraine journal is back in court with who knows how many hours of a deposition and a good, very good chance. And what's a jury gonna do? The jury already knows that under the law of Ohio, now, at least the judge made law, it looks very much like actual malice. Maybe someday, if the paper is not bankrupt they'll bring it up before the Supreme court again, and maybe then they'll hear it. But as I say, this is what happened when you fool around the first amendment. And I go back to New York Times versus Sullivan. One, a unanimous court said look at what we're doing for you. Not only the press, but though every citizen that it's a public responsibility to criticize officials not only for the press, but for everybody. And now we're gonna make it a lot harder for those guys to sue you and the press, this is a quote from that decision would not be subjected to the pall of fear and timidity imposed upon those who would give voice to public criticism. Here we are in 1981, the press has never been more fearful. Even the brave, the four or five brave people at the press. The court thought it could give the press more freedom while however, retaining some structure of libel law. It can't be done retaining any form of liable. And now I grant you, this is not what you call a popular position. I must say, I convinced very few people of this. My wife thinks, and this is another Madison, I'm an absolute idiot because she says it is only fair to have redress of grievances. I'm more and more convinced that you cannot have a strong functioning first amendment with any form of libel law. It's like saying, well, let me go back to Hugo Black, who all his years in the court, practically certainly since 64, had been maintaining that position. William O. Douglas who in some ways was a much, much closer to an absolutist on the first amendment than Black. But in this one, Douglas was secondary to Black. This was Black's one of his true obsessions. He never obviously got to anything close to a majority on the court. The majority would be no libel law. But anyway, he had a dialogue in 1962 at New York University Law School with professor Edmond Khan. And he said, I do not hesitate so far as my own view is concerned as to what should be, and what I hope will sometime be the constitutional doctrine. That it was not intended to authorize damage suits for mere words, as distinguished from conduct. He used to like to quote Thomas Jefferson, who said a number of times that people should be punished or conduct. Yeah, people should be punished for what they do not for what they say. They should never be punished with what they say. I will grant you that after he became president, Mr. Jefferson did not quite believe that degree of of press freedom was desirable. In fact, he once wrote in a letter to the governor of Pennsylvania, why don't you take one of those lousy Greggs and make an example of them? Because even though the first amendment protects the press from congressional action, the States are still free to punish these miscreants, go ahead and do it. That was before the first amendment became nationalized. However, the initial quotation is the one that she'll stand. Black intended that all kinds of libel suits whether or not concerned with public issues, should be declared unconstitutional. By the way, there's a lot of fewer when I bring up the subject anyway, about what about the poor individual who was liable? Who was slanted? Go through the docket see how many cases in which there are in which the individual does indeed bring sued for libel or slander. First of all, I can't afford the lawyers, but this is more and more a situation of action against press. Action by quite powerful people against press or in the case of Nadir action by powerful public individuals, against far less powerful individuals. Anyway, Black said that there is nothing in the language of the first amendment, to indicate that it protects only political speech. Just as with obscenity laws, I believe the first amendment compels the striking down of all libel laws. Well, what about, you know, what about this sense? None of my wife has it, most of my colleagues in New York that I've talked to about have it, it's just not fair individuals got to have a right to redress even if it happens very, very seldom. Black said there are dangers and freedom of speech, no question about that. But I do not believe there is any halfway ground for protecting freedom of speech and press. If you say it as high free, you can rest assured that it will not remain as much as half free. My view is without deviation, without exception without any ifs, buts, or whereases, that freedom of speech means that you shall not do something to people either for the views they have, or the views they express and write. Well there is no one on the current Supreme court who holds Black's first amendment views, not Brennan, not Marshall, certainly not Stevens. If you remember the seven dirty words decision on WBAI. So this is not gonna happen at least not for a long time, but I certainly rather doubt than any appointees of Ronald Reagan, are gonna have bedside collections of opinions by Hugo black or Louis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45517/file/118478#t=0.0,1938.65143"}]}]}]}