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I am the faculty chair of the Institute on World Affairs. We have a faculty chair, a student chair, and anyone in the Iowa State community who is interested in joining. You can be a student, faculty, member of the staff, you could be someone who lives near campus and is just interested in what goes on here, you're all welcome to participate. We will begin meeting the Friday after Thanksgiving at four o'clock in the Pine Room. If you ever wanna know when we're meeting call the Committee on Lectures and ask when the Institute on World Affairs is meeting. We'll begin by recapping what's happened this week, and then we'll go on to pick out what is to those in the room meeting, the most important problem in the world today. If you've got a problem that you think is one everyone here should know about, if you think it's extremely important come to this meeting. Get together with other people, organize that topic, bring people. We've brought some of those interesting intellectuals, politicians, even scholars. If you're at all interested in doing this, if you find this week interesting, please contact us, come get involved in the Institute on World Affairs, You can have a say in how it works next year, right? Now here's Jeff Weiss who will introduce today's speaker.\r\n\r\n- [Jeff] Hello, I would like to first mention tonight's speaker in the Sun Room in the Memorial Union at 8:00 PM, Lewis Nkosi, who was exiled from South Africa is going to speak about the role of literature in the creation of a new Africa. And I would also like to announce another change in the program, Mohammed Sahnoun is not able to be with us tomorrow night. He is involved with the United Nations negotiations regarding the crisis in Somalia, and instead Bereket Habte Selassie who served as the attorney general of Ethiopia under Emperor Haile Selassie will be with us tomorrow night at Thursday, Thursday 8:00 PM in the Sun Room to speak about Somalia as metaphor, the emerging role of the international community in regional conflicts. Our speaker today comes to us from Washington DC. Nmonde Ngubo is a special representative from South Africa to the United Mine Workers of America. She is a spokesperson for the South African Mine Workers Union. She was a research fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies and conducted research on the oral history of women's participation in the liberation movement in South Africa. Today, I was speaking with her a few days ago, she has the unenviable task about talking about the role of multinationals and labor in the new South Africa. The reason I say unenviable is South Africa is changing every day. We know that the last year, the working class and the masses of the people lost a great leader, the head of the South African Communist Party, Chris Hani. We also know that the South African Labor Movement is perhaps the most organized and militant of labor movements in modern times. So without further ado let me introduce Nmonde Ngubo.\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] Thank you very much, first like to thank the people who invited me to come to this conference. Pat Miller called me last year, very early last year and told me about this day. It was some time in the future that I couldn't even dream off. And in the process I manufactured a human being which is with me here, so I've been quite busy through that time, and she was a thought at the time, but now she's here. And I usually get very nervous before I speak and she, this morning she deprived me of my time to be nervous, but she had her own demands. So now without being nervous I'd just had plunge into this, and this is a new role for me. So if there are any mistakes please bear with me. And notes on misunderstandings, English is not my first language. And now I've included baby talk into the 11 languages that I speak. If you don't understand anything I say please just raise your hand, I can say it in another language, okay? Do you all know the artichokes? This is either a fruit or vegetable. Their is a flower in South Africa which is called the national flower. It's a protein and it looks like artichokes dipped in pink. I used to hate the flower for the, for the sake of the fact that it was a national symbol, but then my parents love it so much. My father used to buy my mother this flower whenever they were made and I see most of the Africans in this country still keep this flower. And I came across an interesting article, one of the children of this South African white family said she went to South Africa last year in December. So when she was talking to me, she said I finally understood why my mother loves this artichoke which is dipped in pink. It was standing there on top of the mountain, standing tall and pretty in Cape Town towards the sunset. Now Cape Town is one of the most beautiful parts of the country, like California. And this is just to clear a myth about what place I'm talking about, what it looks like and why we love our country so much because a lot of people say, are you from Africa? You must be glad you're here. On the contrary, no, I'm glad I'm African. And today we have a lot of things to celebrate because I want to start in a positive note and talk about what we are looking forward to in South Africa. We're looking forward to the first time elections in the history South Africa since 1950, when our people were deprived of the right to vote. And those of us who have been born and raised South African have never had the right to vote, never had the right to live wherever we want, choose where to take our children to schools of our choice. We were designated at birth where to live, where to walk, what times, by curfews, by passed laws, internal passports, and all those things and that is ending today. And another thing that happens in a categorization is that there's a set of symbols which are used to describe and explain South Africa, is first world and third world like most places. Now this can be a confusing analogy when it comes to South Africa, to clear again the need and reality pertaining to this. In terms of this analogy, South Africa exhibits the characteristics of both first world and third world. It appears to be a first world country, when you look at the segment we have 70% literacy rate in the country, we have 50 minerals in our soil. We enjoy the highest standards of living which is three times that of the whites in America for the whites in South Africa. And yet we have our slums and our shanty towns and a nation inside of South Africa that has no national health care for the black population. We have an illiteracy rate of about 80% in the rural areas of the black population. Within the same country children die from malnutrition and Tuberculosis and Bilharzia, poverty diseases in a country which exports about 40% of it's food to the African continent. South Africa's fertility rate exhibits the patterns of slow growth patterns which are characteristic of whites in most countries and the South Africa's realty combines modern cities. Like Europe and America, we have our New York, cities which look like Boston, We have Cape Town, we have Devon, we have Port Elizabeth and also we have, unfortunately we don't have what you call here, these, these projects, but we have similar conditions for people who live in shanty towns, which are bulldozed by the government on a continuous basis. Even as I speak South Africa is in a constant state of change, perpetual flux. I was there in December last year and I live in downtown where the white folks used to live. Houses there are going for about 40,000 Rands not Dollars, which is about $20,000. Because the housing market has gone down anytime a black person moves into the neighborhood the white neighbor moves out, which creates opportunities for blacks to move in. So this time it's a voluntary takeover of the housing that is rightfully ours because the whites just don't like to have black neighbors, which is great for us. And the other thing is economics have dictated that the people who are involved in housing, restaurants and hotels need people to buy. And as the black expands and black wealth and consumer interests begin to attract the white commissions, they realized that rather than run empty hotels for lack of enough whites to fill them they invite blacks to come and occupy the hotels. So now when you look at Johannesburg, if you just stepped out of the airport and walked into Johannesburg you would ask yourself the question but where is this apartheid they're talking about? Because for one, there are more blacks than whites in the country, and therefore there's more integration. This country has not yet seen integration in my own personal experience I haven't seen it, and even when I go into a restaurant I find that blacks sit in one corner, even on campuses, I find in the library blacks have their own table and whites have their own table. Now this is not a common characteristic in South Africa because the battle lines are clear cut and they're well drawn. And people have been fighting for specific issues and when they don't have that issue pertaining to that specific they don't fight, they get along real well. So the unfortunate thing is that the influx of people from the urban areas, from the black townships into the cities has caused a lot of congestion. And there's also another influx happening, with this senseless wars that have been going on in Angola and Namibia and all, and Mozambique in all of Africa, people have moved down south into South Africa where at least there's a haven of economic prosperity for those who can make it. And those who have skills that are not being utilized in their countries are welcome, especially in white South Africa since they have no loyalties to the political movement and opposition groups to the whites. So we have a real strange situation going on in South Africa. What I'd like to talk about briefly is the role of disinvestment that most of you played such a crucial part in. With disinvestment I'd like to point out clearly that it is the isolation not the contact that has made the significant economic changes that are taking place in South Africa today. The rationale that yes the sanctions didn't work that's why we need to get rid of them anyway, I can't see any logic in that kind of argument, however, I'd like to find out the positives that have taken place. The apartheid system was undermined by the changing nature of economic activity inside the country, and the need to admit blacks, black workers to the ranks of skilled and semi-skilled positions was imperative. With the withdraw of subsidiaries of multinationals outside and inside of South Africa, South Africa had to be self-sufficient and thus embark on on other methods of getting the work done within the country. This then created more opportunities for blacks and although the South African government has still not met the quota, they indeed ended up opening up skilled positions for people who had been skilled for the jobs but then there was a color bar that precluded them from occupying certain positions which were reserved for whites. And then they also opened up semi-skilled positions. In fact, up until now in the mining industry the rule still stands that if you are black you're either a semi-skilled or an unskilled laborer, because out of the 15 job categories, the blacks cannot participate. They cannot get the certification even for the jobs which they perform, and this is an industry which employs about 600,000 workers. And the other thing that happened with the economic necessity was the democratic significance of the black consumer, which created interest in the black wealth which was given to them and the economic clout that blacks then had. Now the US policy of constructive engagement becomes clearly opposed to this which I just described, that the constructive engagement policy didn't work and in fact, it was the isolation that worked. And the significant thing again to note here is that out of all the vetoes that have taken place of the president of the United States, there are only two where the Congress overrode the veto of the president and the one of them is on the question of South Africa the other was Vietnam, which means it was such a significant issue for the American people that they stood up and made sure to override the president's veto successfully. Now, I'd like to congratulate your insight into this contribution in foreign policy legislation for the US government and in terms of South Africa's and our demise of apartheid, you'll find that it is mostly the US and singularly the US which legislated in its country for change in South Africa and that's an important step for people to remember as historians. And in fact, that's the one thing that you will have to bear in mind when they continue to support any economic policies or policy, just foreign policies concerning outside countries and in this particular case to South Africa. Now the South African government used to employ only British immigrants or even US immigrants for any skilled positions that they could not fill in the country, so they imported labor. With sanctions and the economy the isolation of South Africa that had to stop. South Africa didn't have to manufacture certain things because they could get them from outside, with sanctions they had to be self-reliant and embark on, I know we were busy with the oil boycott and South Africa had to become involved in a liquification process of synthetic fuel and change oil, coal to oil to be self-sufficient because we have, of all the minerals that we have in the country we have no oil deposits of our own. Now, this creates a climate for a self sufficient and self reliant South Africa, where in we call upon the United States to come and help. The USAID has come up with some interesting packages that they want to introduce in South Africa, with the packages they have brought the experts into the country. Rather than come in and oftentimes just send the money, they will come with staff, office, lock, stock, and barrel and everything and help. Now, this is the same reason why we called for sanctions. We called for sanctions because we wanted to develop an independence of the people in the country so that they can run their own affairs. And this is the kind of help that we don't need when USAID sends its own expecting all the money that will come in ends out going out just as fast. It's job displacement for the people of the country, it's further frustration of the people who know, who've been denigrated, have no confidence in themselves and are lacking in skills. So this is something that's becoming very sensitive and I'm hoping to be back in South Africa definitely there for elections by December to see what I can do in terms of participating in some of the involvements. And other interesting things that are going on is that we have community-based development programs, which for those of you who are familiar with the Purifoy Studies of Brazil, very successful in the country but they're not what the IMF and the World Bank generally support, they're going on in the country and the World Bank has moved in South Africa, they've relocated. I don't think they have an active office in Washington DC as active as it is in downtown Johannesburg, South Africa. And I'm telling you this for real, that's just very scary because like the other speakers previously have been explaining, people don't really understand some of these policies or, and they're going to adopt them in a rush to make sure that they see the immediate changes and that's going to back fire in the end. With the other thing that they need to be doing in the economy companies that I've seen them move to South Africa, were there because of the magnet of cheap labor that was provided by a repressed workforce and by the apartheid system. Now we have to compete with Mexicans, we have to compete with Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, we have to compete with the Russia for companies to haul their capital around the world, to choose where they're going to make the most profits. Companies are in business for business. So a restructuring of the workforce has to come into play as people start talking about the economy, nomenclatures like we just want socialism or we want communism are not going to add, to serve the end of the day. People are going to have to look at the practical realities that confront them. I mean, something like to the extent of looking at the configuration of the workforce, this thing of people working an eight to five job and others working no hours at all. And in South Africa, the people who've been working for instance, in the mines away from their families, have another, with the companies have a task now of providing housing and social security benefits and benefits in general to the workers whom they just paid a wage or salary because the government designated women and children as superfluous appendages to the worker. As we speak there are studies that have been made in South Africa recently suggest that by the year 2000 South Africa will need an additional 120,000 managers in higher level positions and 45,000 of these positions can be filled by whites and the rest will have to be filled by blacks. So it's no longer a social responsibility for companies which are thinking of moving to South Africa to train them into these positions, it's an economic imperative. So we're talking about a gross find for companies in terms of how they want to use South Africa. And I'm really skeptical that because sanctions have been called off, they're going to rush into the country when they can choose which country they can exploit and get more profits. They won't necessarily come to us but however, we're hoping that when the time comes that will happen. But there's also the informal sector, which is very interesting, and it's a developing sector in the economy and it contributes a lot in South Africa. It employees about six to 10 workers in one small business, 11 to 15 others, but it contributes about 23.8% to the economic growth of the economy each year. So I think it's one of the areas which we need to be supported as we go along. And I'd like to take a moment to talk about the current situation we'd like to hear about. We're looking at the strategy of the objective of elections in South Africa is to have an election where in both whites and blacks participate equally in creating a democratic constitution. So this is not an election for the country per se but an election to throw the constitution, so it's a preliminary stage to the real thing. We have obstacles that the government has got more resources than the, the other political movements which are not even yet political parties. Our people don't even know how to vote along party lines and when a person like Chris Hani gets killed in the country they don't think about what party he belongs to therefore, that's the party to support, they think about this particular man died then who else are we going to vote for? It's again, surrounding personalities which means there's going to be a lot of voters education needed throughout the country. Unfortunately, the total budget calculated for the nine months period of this voters education is about 134 million Rands. And we have to try and raise this money as fast as we can within the country and outside of the country. In the meantime there is a civil war actually going on within the country. The right wing Afrikaner whites are armed to the teeth. They are a prototype of the Ku Klux Klan of this country except in South Africa they don't cover their faces because they were legislated and given the right to be a white extremist and racist. They continue to fight to, to go into townships sometimes paint their faces in black or employ black people to kill people rampantly. This serves to demoralize the people as they become so enthused about the election. The other thing that's happening is that the white government goes to the most poor areas of the country and provides bread and beer or whatever it is that the people are going to be enticed by and tells them, if you vote for me this is the kind of thing that will happen. So people will get confused about who to vote for, hopefully that's not the case, but it may be. So we need to also develop an infrastructure that will allow people from the rural areas where there's no transportation to come to the voting polls. There'll be about four phases of the election campaign. First month will be preparation, the second would be voter education, third phase will be political campaigns, which will be running to the duration of 10 to eight, from eight to 10 months, and then phase four will be the election week. We're looking at a very busy time in our country. It is at this time that we do call upon university students who have the ability to become involved in programs funded by the university to go to South Africa and help with this voters education and become involved in campaigns. It will be an enriching experience mutually for both of the people who will be involved. And we also have the problems of gender discrimination which unfortunately are, the women who have been fighting alongside the men in the country now have to fight alongside each other to eradicate the discrimination of women against the men that they were fighting with. So we really have a lot of problems. We also have a problem where the children of our country, like the women in the country, are suffering the most under this pain of oppression and continue to do so with the deaths and the killings that are taking place, the matter still remains to be the ones at home to explain to the children what's going on. The government so far, has targeted the killing of men. For some reason I think there is a mistake in thinking that the country wouldn't run without men because it's such a mess as it is and it's men who've been running. I'm not suggesting that they should kill women, I just think that their choice of killing because they want to cripple the movement is not gonna take them anywhere anyway. So anyway there's an illustration of a little girl who comes home and finds that daddy is dead because of these rampant shootings. When I'm talking about rampant shootings I have such horrible images in my mind, I don't even want to get into telling you about it. I can call home and say to my mother, \"Oh, I'm thinking of family next month.\" She says, \"No, no, no, don't come next month, yesterday 15 people were killed on their way to work by a runaway car.\" Nobody knows who these people were. Now, if you read in the newspapers that there are political factions fighting, please think for a moment how a political party knows which political party the people belong to when they are queuing up for a bus to go work. Just think about it, so you know for a fact that what they're talking about is nonsense. So these, the little girl says, \"Mommy where is daddy?\" And mommy continues to inspire hope and energy because what we've had in our country that has brought us this far is the social energy that has been imbibed through the culture, the role-play, they're the oral traditions and the history that we've learned mostly from the mothers. And she says, \"Daddy is in heaven baby.\" \"Why did he go to heaven?\" \"Because they needed him there more than we need him here.\" And I don't know if I can do this but I'll try. It's an old story which has been going on for years but it looks like it could be going on for a lot more years before it's over. ♪ Mommy, mommy, what is heaven like ♪ ♪ Is it like a house so pretty and bright ♪ ♪ I don't understand, it doesn't seem fair ♪ ♪ If daddy loved us so then why did he go there ♪ ♪ Heaven my child is a beautiful place ♪ ♪ Where there's a smile on everyone's face ♪ ♪ Daddy loved us both but he has to go ♪ ♪ We needed him more but they needed him more ♪ ♪ Mommy, mommy, is heaven very far ♪ ♪ How long would it take if we go by car ♪ ♪ If you pass me at the corner I could take my bike ♪ ♪ Mommy please tell me what's heaven like ♪ ♪ You can't go there by a bike or a car ♪ ♪ You travel alone way beyond the stars ♪ ♪ I tell you daddy loved us both but he had to go ♪ ♪ But if I know your daddy has saved a place for us ♪ ♪ Mommy, mommy, I can hardly wait ♪ ♪ I am so excited heaven sounds great ♪ ♪ I can now run and tell my sisters goodbye ♪ ♪ But mommy please tell me why still a tear in your eye ♪ ♪ Mommy ♪ Thank you. I'll take questions. Question? The first thing that people are doing now for the elections, is to make clear that distinction, because in the past, especially South Africa 'cause if you're black you're a black African, if you're white you can be an immigrant but then you have the right to be a citizen. Now we have to make sure that there are structures set in place to make sure that the Africans who come, who have come into the country were not South African, don't necessarily just get a flow into the South Africa but of course there'll be an overlap. So there'll be immigration systems that will have to be set in place before the election and the second thing that the, the regulatory process is going to take is that the labor movement has been working very closely with the Department of Manpower. And also the, I mean, labor movement is not at the same rank as the Department of Manpower and the government, so they're in business. So we have business, government and labor all working together to ensure that what they have ensures them the business community a healthier industry climate to have credibility with international investors in terms of access of capital and markets inside of the country. So whatever comes kind of legislation comes out will be in the interest of all three parties. Left to the government alone, even the ANC government, that wouldn't be as promising as I think it is now with the fact that labor itself will be involved in business.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Sorry, you mentioned the US agencies borrowed resources, lets talk about that, in a way that their resources were-\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] Coming out.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Going out of South Africa have you found a way of ensuring that the resources come in they use the individuals or the resources to .\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] No. No, you know some of our strongest supporters have had an inspiring notion to go into South Africa and work there. It's very hard to, to explain to some of the people that we need the help but we don't need the displacement of people who are there. There are a lot of people in the country who can do the work. And sometimes it becomes even trickier when you come to the question of black and white because African Americans should indeed have more access to black businesses in South Africa, because this is a black thing. Again there are enough black people in South Africa who would like to have contracts for black businesses, who would like to do the same things that blacks are doing here. It has to be a mutual kind of a consultation basis. Now with the bigger funders, it's very tricky because they, they're used to doing this and they've been doing it throughout Africa. They come into the country, they set up an office and whatever they say they are coming to do sometimes looks very good on paper. And it's an offer you can not refuse. I mean, there's one offer that I read about last year from the World Bank, it was so good, given to the ANC that it felt like the ANC could go home and rest. After that the World Bank would do everything for us, we didn't need to worry anymore. And there were people there who felt good about this and they took it. Now they're in South Africa, they are jobless, the people who are making the offers are in South Africa working there and here, they have the jobs. And the money that they were talking about is being utilized to employ more people from here who are doing the work and indeed there is some kind of benefit that comes out, for instance, this is a public policy school for management training. So we do have some people who attend the school, their school, with their stuff. The only thing is to keep on talking about it and to have quotas maybe, to say this, we can only allow one expert at a time, 10 of them is rather too much. Then we should also look at how much money comes in and how much money should stay in 'cause yesterday I was listening to the people who were giving speeches here. The speaker mentioned exactly how much money comes into the country and how much stays. I think she said, zero, zero money was coming out of the investment that they made. And she eventually explained further that it looks like what, what has happened is that instead of colonialism coming to an end, we have a new kind of colonialism, which is even worse because it no longer has the face of missionaries and government bodies it just has the color of money. And that knows no boundaries.\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] To think the ANC is a what?\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] That the ANC is a wildcard .\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] No, Buthelezi is of no consequence in the country. I wouldn't like to spend one more breath of my time and yours on this US notion of, of Buthelezi. Throughout the struggles of people for liberation the US has managed to find the person that they think they ought to support or call whatever moral names they want to call him. For instance, Buthelezi has come in and out of this country, hosted by the moral majority people and all the priests, they believe in him. The same people who have invited Mobutu and Savimbi. These are not, they're, these people are of no consequence given the force of the change and determination of the people in the country. We no longer need to define him inside of South Africa. Besides his statistic hope, notorious statistic of 6 million Zulus is unrealistic because, you know, if you go to university boy meets girl, they don't ask first are you Zulu, are you Xhosa? See when the, when the government created these universities and scanned these so-called homelands they made sure those were Zulus and whatnot, they were on travel on ethnicity basis. But that didn't really work that way, for instance, when I applied to a university I check what area it is in and I write the ethnic group of that area to be admitted, it doesn't matter. So when the product of the children come out of those unions they are not necessarily either Zulu or Xhosa. So the core group that they scooped out of a curb as the 6 million people owned by Buthelezi will surprise you when you go to the area KwaZulu you'll find a lot of people are actually proud card carrying members of the ANC and interestingly enough they have a membership for Inkatha. Now they say, if you knock on the door and you say, yes we want to know what your membership is. They look at you, if you look neat and clean, they say ANC. And if you knock on the door you look roughshod and you're querying your stick and say, what, what what political organization do you belong to? They say Inkatha and they show you their Inkatha card, which is the Buthelezi party and then there's no violence these people leave. They know now, you know, how to have all cards that are necessary for survival on a daily basis. And if they have that ability to discern it means when the time comes for the vote they'll know who to vote for.\r\n\r\n- [Man 3] You also mentioned that when you called home and talked with your mother, your mother said not come home because your survival or your presence in this world and wouldn't want you to die.\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Man 3] How do you feel about going home when she tells you that?\r\n\r\n- [Nmonde] I feel that my mother loves me very much and I appreciate her saying that and I'm going home. See, I, I long lost the fear of death and the threat of the, the white backlash to us long ago. You see, in 1976, June the 16th, they shot at a crowd of small children, seven years old and younger this is de Klerk, the man would just received a Nobel Peace Prize was the minister of education at the time, and the only reason some of us didn't die is that we were not hit by a bullet. Now we cannot walk in constant fear of being hit by a bullet because if we walk this way maybe that will happen. And that's why we have the can't catch you up with us because our feet are always moving on the ground . You know, in, in, the bottom line is that it's a very difficult thing for people like us who've been fighting, we got, became exiled and left our homes to fight for the liberation of our country, to miss out on this one time that we finally come to fruition of that aspect of it. It's also a very challenging thing for me to have to think now that I have a child of my own, what do I do about that? Do I then stay and say, I'm cut out of the struggle anymore. No, I'll go home, my mother will take care of the baby, and I'll go on and match with the rest of the students towards Pretoria, where we're going to take our country back. We don't yet have political parties, we have political movements. The African National Congress, the PAC, and the American Zulu version of Buthelezi, which in South Africa has not yet made, what Buthelezi has succeeded in doing in South Africa is to create the controversy that people don't seem to recognize.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42983/file/115655#t=0.0,2812.248"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42983/file/115656","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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What we're trying to get rid of is apartheid. Him as a person and everyone with him who want to participate in the process are all welcome when their time comes. So he belongs to this Freedom Party, and I think maybe that's where it's going to be happening. In terms of what's going to happen after the constituent assembly has been formed. I hope by that time, there will be a clear definition of political parties, so that we don't have an African National Congress that graduates itself into a political party. And the people in South Africa need to have a chance to vote it into power, so that it becomes a political party. So nobody here is exonerated from the accountability of being the representative politician for the people.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 1] What's your vision of an ideal South Africa, say 20 years from now?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] That's a very good question and a very hard one. First of all, it's hard because it borders on projection. Now that's a very unscientific way of doing things for me on a political level, too. Ideally South Africa should be a vibrant, viable economy. South Africa should be able to utilize its mineral resources and take its place in the world as the Persian Gulf of minerals in the continent, and be the gateway to the African continent that it is. And Africa has to get its act together and then stop all these different currencies and borders at every corner that were created by people who were visiting anyway. So that people don't have the inability to travel without a passport from one small location to the next. And when they do travel, they should be able to use the money without losing all of it due to a currency change. As the South Africa being able to utilize its ability to help in an English-speaking country and get rid of this Afrikaans language that we don't need and send it back to where it came from in Europe, Germany or Holland. Unfortunately, nobody there wants it, nor do they want the people. And that the white South African who calls himself an Afrikaner should earn that title. People don't come to South Africa and start calling themselves Africans all of a sudden or Afrikaners. Then you know, that thing must stop. They must live there and earn being Africans by living with Africans within the African context of living. I see a vibrant culture that's going to sweep the rest of Africa and the world as it already has done. And a youth that is not as we have been busy with the struggle of fighting for liberation but a youth that is busy with the struggle of competing equally with their white counterparts and in an amicable, harmonious way live in a country that's just looking at what this country fought for. What they call it, peace, prosperity, and all the values that are supported in the constitution of this country. This time, the constitution that is for real that doesn't exclude blacks and women like this one did when it was elected.\r\n\r\n- [Moderator] Okay, we have time for one more question.\r\n\r\n- [Audience Member 2] What's our most reliable source of information for us in this part of the country? As this progresses.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Let me see if I did my homework on this. This small percentage occupied and I wanted to do that. Let me just see quickly if I have that, if I don't, what I'll do is I'll create a bibliography information and submit it in. In the absence of that, depending on your area, the first thing to be looking at in terms of the real economic changes, there's an Institute for Industrial Research center in Washington DC, they provide information. There is, so I suppose this coming to a close, you can't get that anymore. That was the last issue. There are a lot of magazines, I just haven't thought of them now. Let me see, do you have anything that comes to mind quickly about information resource? they cut off all the reliable resource.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] There is a newspaper that comes out of South Africa, which is pretty reliable. That's the weekly. You can subscribe to that, and they're very good at sending it once you are a subscriber.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 2] You can get information from Trans Africa, or the app or the Washington office on that.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] That's right, that's right.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 2] I would come with that. The interesting thing is I've read a lot of the South African press. And I find the South African press to be much freer than the press in the United States. I mean, you can get a lot more information about South Africa, and even about world issues that you're not going to find in the Washington Post or New York Times.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker] Yeah, well I think your country's press is pretty interesting, I don't want to call it names. 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