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I'm Murray Kaplan, I'm president of the ISU chapter of Sigma Xi. I just wanted to tell you a couple of things about Sigma Xi. Sigma Xi is a national scientific and engineering honor society. In order to be nominated to it by your professors, if you're engaged in research either at the undergraduate or graduate level, there's certain criteria that have to be met. Usually for associate membership is presentation of a scientific paper in a scientific meeting, usually a national meeting. And for full membership requires a publication in the refereed journal. If you get elected to this honor, you can have this honor put on your transcript as a permanent record that you've been recognized by the National Scientific Honor Society. The sciences includes engineering, all the national sciences, mathematics and social sciences are recognized in the society. We sponsor a series of lectures using national distinguished lecturers such as Ted Rockwell we have here tonight, plus local lecturers. We also participate in the awards for graduate and undergraduate research, that's part of Sigma Xi. And then this year we're gonna try and start, we may start off a poster session for undergraduate research. We're trying to get that going and we're gonna get organized on that. If it doesn't work for this year it'll certainly work for next year. So that's all I'm gonna tell you about our national society. There will be a question period after the presentation. I'll ask you to please go to the microphone to ask your questions so that other people can hear your questions. And after we finish the question and answer period they'll be some refreshments. So if you want the refreshments then you have to stick around. Now I'm going to turn this over to Dr. Jay-Lin Jane who's the President elect of the ISU chapter in charge of this year's program, Dr. Jay-Line Jane.\r\n\r\n- Good evening. It's a great honor and a pleasure for me to introduce tonight's national honor lecturer, Dr. Theodore Rockwell. Dr. Rockwell is member of Academy of Engineering. So this is the first Academy of Engineering sponsored Sigma Xi honor lecture. And Dr. Rockwell has been working over 60 years, that's impressive, in nuclear reaction and nuclear power. And Dr. Rockwell is a fellow of American Nuclear Society. And he received the first ANS Lifetime Contribution award. Now that award is named after him, so now it's Rockwell award. And there is a long list of honors that he has received. And he was technical director of Admiral Rickover's program.\r\n\r\n- Rickover.\r\n\r\n- Rickover, debuted at the Nuclear Navy. and the first of world commercial atomic power station, that's in Pennsylvania. And also he has quite a few patents and one of these patents actually is the foundation of all other patents. And so it is great honor and pleasure to have Dr. Rockwell here to tell us his career achievement on nuclear power and related subject. Okay let's welcome Dr. Rockwell.\r\n\r\n- Is everybody where they can see the screen all right or am I standing in the way of it? It's hard to pick a spot. Well Jay-Lin told me that my job here is to talk and your job is to listen. And if you finish before I do raise your hand and we'll see if we can work something out. There were several options of what lecture subjects to talk about. And one was more provocative and that's the one that she chose. But these are three different doors that lead into the same room, the data are the same that you have to deal with. So this part of the thing, the heresy and excommunication, those are terms that we think of as being applied in religious communities where dogma is the thing and adherence to the dogma is essential. But we seekers of pure truth think we're above and beyond all that. And what I'd like to talk about a little bit is that that may be a more active activity in the scientific community than you might think about. And it's because human beings and institutions of human beings are pretty much the same whether you're talking about political parties or scientific society or a church. Institutions wanna preserve themselves and the people in the institutions wanna preserve themselves. You usually associate that problem of heresy, as a charge of heresy says you're not speaking legitimate truth and you don't belong in this organization. And you get excommunicated, you're not allowed in the organization. Those things are terms that as I say aren't usually used. But we'll talk a little bit about when they do show up. The first place they show up and that's not surprising is when you get into fields at the edges of science which are considered disreputable fields. And in the same sense that for a long time music professionals didn't wanna consider jazz as a legitimate art form. It was played in bordellos and not in concert halls. And so there are areas of science that fall in that category. For a long time for example science didn't wanna admit the existence of the subconscious, of hypnosis. A demonstration was used of hypnosis as a anesthesia for an amputation. And they actually sawed a guys leg off with hypnosis as the only anesthesia. And the doctors that were brought in to witness this decided that the whole thing was a fake. That the patient was in cahoots with the doctor and he was just pretending he didn't feel it when they sawed his leg off. That's how far people will go to preserve the status quo of their own worldview. But I wanna talk about an area of science which is safely in the middle of mainstream science. It happens to be a field I'm interested in, the effects of radiation of organisms. And particularly organisms like you and me. And so radiation protection is a subject that you would think would not be considered disreputable. But nonetheless we have this kind of a problem. This little androgynous critter here is taken from a book called Has Radiation Protection Become a Health Hazard?, by a very noted Swedish radiobiologist. And that's a very important question to think about. How can a radiation protection system become a health hazard? Something set up to protect people's health. And I'll get that into that because this is what's happened. The first thing that happened in connection with radiation. Of course when it first came in it was sort of looked at as the elixir of life. It was a wonderful thing, people were taking radium things. Radium and radioactivity were incorporated into every kind of thing you can think of. And it was all very wonderful. And then some people got burned and then all of a sudden it's something that maybe we should worry about. And of course people were not slow to recognize that if you got something that is not well known and is dangerous, there are people that are gonna give you money to research this. And so sure enough the more dangerous and the more mysterious you can make something look, the longer you can keep studying it. And so this is where you start getting into trouble. Radiation has had fear associated with it for a long time. And the fear is not without consequences. When you scare people continuously, there are consequences to that. And in my little hometown paper outside of Washington D.C., these headlines appeared. It says radon is the single largest health hazard. Now here's a town where we got snipers shooting at people. We got automobiles knocking people down, we got all kinds of different diseases and problems. But radon is the largest single health hazard. Does anybody really believe that? I mean you know when was the last time you saw an obituary that says she died in bed after a long bout with radon? But that was the story that was going out and a lot of money was going into studying radon. And there's a whole radon remediation industry growing up. If you look in the Yellow Pages, it didn't used to be there. The guy that really started this off was an electrical worker in Pennsylvania, a nuclear power plant that was being built. And this guy set off the alarm one day when he walked through the scanning portal that they have to measure radiation. Now the interesting thing about it was he was walking from the outside in. And second they hadn't installed any radioactivity in the plant yet. They had installed the monitoring system but they didn't have a core. So this guy is ringing bells. And it turns out that he had a very high natural level of radon in his home. Big panic you know. Well for 10 years a lot of us have been trying to tell the EPA and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that they were lowering the standards tighter and tighter, the permissible levels lower and lower in these nuclear power plants. And they had people that were required to get less radiation at work than they had from the natural God's good green Earth at home. And we kept telling them this was an inconsistency, you know it didn't make sense, they ought to resolve that problem. And they kept saying go away boy you're bothering me. And about 1990 they suddenly flipped around. And the Environmental Protection Agency, which was set up to protect poor defenseless nature against the ravishes of technological mankind, was suddenly characterized as the silent killer in your home. And they were running public service announcements on television where they showed the happy American family gathered around the television set. And they all look very happy and this commercial is going on about the radon that is seeping into the home and suddenly they all become skeletons, even the dog becomes a skeleton. And people raise such a hull about this they finally took it off. It was a disgraceful sort of thing. But just deliberate fear because they said they couldn't get people to spend a lot of money to try to remediate radon in their homes. And just to go to a punchline on that particular point, I was present at the news conference when the latest report came out announcing the statistics on which these headlines on based. They named a number of how many people are being killed each year, 10s of thousands which they give to three significant figures, plus or minus 40%. And it's still a phony number. But one of the reporters asked a very important question and I was sorry to see nobody picked it up in the papers. But this guy said at the last thing, they were getting ready to close up the news conference. And this guy said I would like to hear from each member of the committee what he or she is doing about radon in their own home. Reasonable question right? So everybody looks at everybody else you know? And finally one guy said well I don't smoke so it's not a problem for me. Yeah, that didn't fly very well. So the chairman said well I checked the radon in my home, he says. Well fine, what did you find and what did you do about it? Well, you know these numbers are mutter mutter mutter and we gotta get onto other things. So these guys were telling us we should spend billions of dollars on this terrible problem were not willing to spend 15 bucks to check the radon in their own home. Which is all it cost to get one of those little canisters and check it. So that has implications and that's the second headline. Radon fear sparks drop is breast exam. The guys that were running the mammogram units said they were having trouble getting people to come in. A woman would call up, she'd be really upset, she'd discovered a lump in her breast. They'd say come on in and we'll give you an examination and see what we can do about it. No sir, I understand you guys use radiation. I'm not gonna have that, radiation causes cancer. So this is how radiation protection system can become a heath hazard. So let's get into that in a little more detail. We finally got to the point where people were putting out statements like this one I'm about to show you here. This is a statement that was put out by the Secretary of Energy. The Secretary of Energy, oh I can put it down too. The Secretary of Energy now has no regulatory responsibilities. They changed the old Atomic Energy Act which promoted and regulated atomic energy and people said hey that's a conflict of interest. So they peeled it off, they set up the National Nuclear Regulatory Commission to do the regulation. And the secretary of energy was there for free to promote nuclear energy under the Atomic Energy Act. So this is what this guy says. Radiation induced cancers, we estimate that over the next 30 years there will be between 250 and 700 radiation induced cancers among DOE, that's Department of Energy, contract employees of which about 60% will result in death. That's an official Department of Energy. Absolutely no valid basis for such a statement. I called the secretary's office the next morning when I saw this in the papers and said I wanna see the report this is based on. Well it isn't exactly based on a report. Well what is it based on? Well we expect to have a vigorous public discussion of this thing. This is just to open the discussion. And of course they never had such a discussion. But this was the basis for starting the Nuclear Worker's Compensation Act. That says that all these quote Cold War heroes who worked in the nuclear plant. Cold War hero being somebody like me who is in a good paying job doing what he likes while other people are getting shot at. How this makes a guy a hero I don't know. But they wanna compensate all these guys because they were working in ultra hazardous field. And so the next thing you know there's a congressional thing that says it is the sense of Congress that since World War II federal nuclear activities have been explicitly recognized by the US Government as an ultra hazardous activity under federal law. Well that's a statement that's easy to prove or disprove, they've got statistics on nuclear workers. The fact of the matter is that their longevity is 25% greater than the public at large. That the cancer rate is lower and so forth. So that statement doesn't make any sense at all. And goes on down, another statement that's obviously impossible to prove. Furthermore studies indicate that 98% of radiation induced cancers with the DOE complex are current dose levels below existing national safe thresholds. There's no way you can prove a statement like that and it's obviously nonsense. But that is the basis on which the people who pass that law are greeted by workers as heroes for getting them money. They're never gonna get any money. In first place the money is gonna come out of a different kitty, a different year. And they're gonna have to prove that they were actually damaged by radiation. And they're not being damaged by radiation so they're not gonna get any money. But meanwhile these guys have made their point. So after 9/11, there was a lot of increase. Incidentally the secretary of energy who made that statement that I showed you is now working on the board of directors of a big heavy nuclear organization. Just to show you how these things work. They said that they thought he was an excellent secretary of energy. So after 9/11, people began to pick up and use that as an excuse that gee, we better shut down all these nuclear power plants because they're so vulnerable. And it would be an unprecedented catastrophe if anything ever happens to any of them. And so we got an article published. I got an op ed in the Washington Post, Radiation Chicken Little. They're their head not mine. I just called it Getting Real. But this was talking about a drill that they had. It was an off the record drill where they had all the top civil defense people together from the mayors office, the White House and so forth and they did a drill, the dirty bomb drill. A dirty bomb is ordinary explosive with some radioactivity wrapped around it. And the theory is that this is gonna cause a big problem. So they were doing this drill and the guy who was running it was David Gergen, who is a well known public figure. And he was trying to get some action out of these guys and of course they didn't have enough data, the drill was marching along. And he said look, radiation is killing people you know. They're going into the hospitals, overwhelming facilities, and you guys are just sitting there. And I said David, there isn't enough radioactivity in a dirty bomb to hurt anybody. All you have to do is walk a block away and you're all right. And he says gee that's not what the scientists and the regulators are telling us. And I said you're asking them the wrong question. What you're telling me is what it takes to make a pristine clear surgically clean piece of ground. And that's not what you worry about in a situation where you're worried about protecting life. You should use the numbers that have to do with public health and not some hypothetical surgical cleanliness. And a key point in that regard is that there's radioactivity all around us. It's a part of the world, it's a part of the Universe. Life evolved in a world that was much more radioactive than our world is right now. All the radioactivity that we are making in all these different programs is not enough addition to overcome the decrease in natural radioactivity just from the natural decay that all radioactive substances do. The Earth is getting inexorably less and less radioactive every year. So here's where I described this thing and mentioned these things are not dangerous and quote as one of the sources of authority the article that a bunch of us wrote in Science magazine. And this of course is written by 19 authors, all of whom are members of the National Academy and are experts in nuclear stuff. And it was peer reviewed of course. And the fact that these guys without experience have this position is worth something. But more than that are the references that they have to the experimental work and so forth that justifies this. And I'll show you an interesting curve. And you look at it at first and it may be a little confusing. But just bare with me a minute and I'll show you what it's about. When you are evaluating public safety on a thing like this, what they do often is they take a graph in which going up this way is increasing deaths. We assume that this is a tragedy, this only kills one person, this is 10, this is 100, this is 1,000. And this is how improbable the situation is that would create such a thing. So this says that there's a fairly good chance that every few years you might have a little accident. And there's an even less chance that you'd have a bigger accident. And this goes all the way up to where you're killing hundreds of people, public catastrophe. And that's the curve that they normally looked at that they said this is how we analyze, this computer modeling this whole thing. And the skeptics say well, the approach is okay but we think it ought to be way over here. And we think when you enter this no zone, that it shouldn't be once in a million years. We think it's more like once in 100 years, which obviously make a big difference. And so arguing these two things isn't very illuminating. So back about 1970 we started doing experiments where they actually took nuclear fuel. Okay thanks, yeah that's good. And heated it up. Nuclear fuel is a very high temperature ceramic so it takes a very high temperature to melt it. They would heat it up electrically to melt it, see how much stuff comes off. And it turns out that much less stuff came off than the theoretics thought would. And then the next question is well what happens to it? And the fact of the matter is it doesn't spread very far. The stuff comes out, it hits the cold air, it tends to coagulate and drop out and there it is. And this is a problem if you inhale it but it doesn't carry very far. So they came up with a conclusion that the real situation, if you actually measure, I could use this fine instrument. That this curve here says it gets worse and worse. But then it levels off here and no matter what you do, you can't get much worse than this. Now that's a very different argument to defend, a very different situation. This says that no matter what you do, you're not gonna kill more than this number of people. And actually these numbers, I should get them on there so you can see them. This is a little fanciful because this is operating on the principle that radiation is harmful all the way down to zero. And that if you cut the amount of radiation in half you'll cut the cancer rate in half and you can cut it in half again. Which is an interesting thing to say from a physics standpoint. And it's a thing if you just look at radiation hitting a cell and you see every time a radiation hits a cell it could create a cancer. And so if you get twice as much radiation you double the chance of getting cancer. That's assuming the human body or any organism is an inert thing, it doesn't react. And the fact of the matter is the way the actual situation works, any substance that challenges an organism can be toxic if you get enough of it. And it's harmless at some lower point. And it's actually beneficial at the lowest points. Because what happens is that a challenge to an organism that is tolerable strengthens the responses. And you'll find this in everything. It applies to exercise, it applies to sunshine, it applies to all the deadly poisons that are in your vitamin pills. Yeah they're deadly poisons. But you need tiny amounts to stimulate the immune system to respond. So that really changes the whole story. And a lot of guys have commented on that get this article in physics today and so forth which I will skip. But the key point is two things. One is that when the radiation hits a cell, it damages that cell. But the damage from radiation is one 10 millionth as much as the routine damage from just metabolism, metabolizing your food, breathing and eating. So that the thing that controls whether you're in trouble or not is not whether you got one more gamma ray. It's whether your immune system is operating well. It's exactly the situation when your mother says you know what you're gonna catch your death of cold. She doesn't say wipe off the doorknob or you might get another germ. She says put on your galoshes and keep your immune system healthy. And it's the same kind of thing. Because the stimulation that the radiation does not only decreases the amount of damage that remains from the radiation damage. But has the same effect proportionately to the damage from metabolism which is 10 million times higher. So that effect is that your body is now stronger. And that's an old biological principle. You know any fights you win make you stronger. And it's true and in biology they now talk about the fact that it doesn't make sense to say that any substance is a food, a medicine, or a poison. The dose makes all the difference. And this goes all the way back to Paracelsus in 1540. He says nothing is poison but the dose makes it so. And if you think about it it makes sense. What happens when they put a little smallpox in your arm? You know you don't sick, you get better. And that's why these tiny amount of selenium copper and everything else in your vitamin pills. Just illustrate this briefly and then we can open up to some questions and things. This is the way that works. The process that I'm talking about which is something being harmful at high levels and beneficial at low levels they call hormesis from a Greek word to stimulate. Because that's what's happening, it's stimulating the immune system and the body's response system. So if you look at this thing, if this red line here is the normal rate of cancer or whatever else issue of measuring. The rate of it in the absence of radiation. You go out here with increasing radiation and what happens at first? Oh I'm using my magic pointer here, I keep forgetting about this. At first when you increase the radiation going out here, the cancer rate or whatever it is you're measuring gets lower and lower and lower. You get down here and you've knocked it down maybe 30% or something like that. And then increasing radiation comes back more and more and more. Until finally you get back up to where you were here. So all the way up to here the radiation's beneficial. From here on it starts getting more and more harmful. So that's the typical curve. And there was a recent article in Nature magazine which is also a very fundamental magazine as most of you know, mainstream. And one of the sentences that they've pulled out to flag in a sidebar says hermetic responses, that is this kind of thing, have equal if not greater importance for the biomedical and clinical sciences. And that hormesis is not an exception to the rule, it is the rule. And I remember one meeting of toxicologists they said does anybody know any substance that doesn't behave this way? And some of the other toxicologists in the room and nobody can come up with anything that didn't behave this way. Whether it's a nerve gas or a mercury, organic mercury or any of these things. In small enough doses they do prove to be beneficial. So in radiation, here is a typical sort of a curve on the left there. And you look at this thing and you say gee that looks like the guys that say it's a straight line all the zero, it sure looks all right to me. Well there's a little joker in this. This little rectangle in here could face 440 out of the 517 or whatever it was points. So let's expand the thing and look at these 440 points that are all mashed down in the corner. So you do that and this is what you have. And gee whiz doesn't that look familiar? But that's variant when it is plotted this way. The point is that people have not been looking. I mean I've read more than one report in which they said since there is no reason to expect that radiation would be beneficial comma, and then they go on. They're gonna use a single sided P curve and all this sort of stuff because everybody knows radiation can't be beneficial. So they're used to counting dead mice and not looking for happy mice you know? And the fact is all the happy mice are over in this corner being ignored. So here's another example the same thing with a little better data, a little better arrow bars. And again, you see you get this dip down before it comes back up again. And if you really wanna see that on an epidemiological level, they did a 10 year study of workers in a nuclear shipyard. And they've got 700,000 workers in a nuclear shipyard so they had a good population to work from to get good statistics. And what they wanna do, the first thing you do when you measure the health of an industrial group is you run into what they call the healthy worker effect. The average worker is healthier than the average guy in total. I was gonna say on the street but some of them aren't on the street. Some of them are sick, some of them are elderly, some of them are just incapable of working for one reason or another. And so you've already got a selection process when you have people who are employed full-time. So that's the healthy worker effect. So they said okay, we recognize that, we'll get around that. We will compare workers in the shipyard job by job age by age. We'll take welders at different ages, we'll take ship fitters, we'll take each of these skills. And we'll compare the guys that work in radiation fields with the guys that don't. And this is a very easy statistic because you can't work in a radiation field without getting a radiation badge. So they know exactly who has worked in radiation fields and who hasn't. And so there's no healthy worker effect then, it's welders against welders, age same age and so forth. And this is the kind of statistics they got on the thing. And this is death from all causes here. And the blue ones are the ones that never did any radiation work. And here are the guys who do radiation work in the red. And the statistical error that you would expect in this thing are those pretty darn narrow little bars there. As you get into smaller groups, the statistical bars get bigger. But I think you can see that we have pretty good logic. And if you even go the antinuclear guys who have come up with some pretty outrageous claims, and you look at their raw data before they start doing it. And I challenged a guy publicly on this thing. I said isn't it true that when you start with your data, that he was looking at guys downwind from the atomic test, atomic bomb test. I said isn't it true that the guys downwind generally have lower cancer rate, greater longevity than your control group that isn't in the area? Oh yeah but it's more complicated than that. What he does is he looks at 46 different kinds of cancer. He looks at several different age claims. And surprise some of them were above average. Now if I saw a statistical thing that placed no groups above average, I would know right there it was phony. You can't have a situation where there is no groups above average. So he goes along until he finds one that's above, throws away all the ones that are below average and says see, this particular cancer, this particular age group, these guys are getting killed by radiation. So I said Steve how about other poisons? You know you go to another group, is it the same cancer and same age group? No these things are all very different. It's just a simple statistical artifact. There was a headline in the Pittsburgh paper one time that said a report came out about outstanding students. And the big headline says half of Pittsburgh students are below average. But let me show you the radon numbers because this is particularly revolting. This is a guy who did the, who got grad students, that wonderful class of people that do most of the world's scientific work, to go and measure radon and get county averages of radon in houses. And got these tabulated by counties. And did this for counties that involved 90% of the US population. And then he went and got National Cancer Institute cancer data for lung cancer for those same counties. And he had huge numbers on the thing. And here's the data he got. This is no radiation cancer level. And this going across here is increasing levels of radon. And this says that at very very low radon the number of cancer deaths is above the national average. And as you get higher it gets lower and lower and lower. And it's pretty good statistics. Here is what the guy says. This is the theory that says it's linear no-threshold as they call it, it's going all the way down. That's the linear no-threshold, here's the actual people. And so you'd say what about that? And they'd say well this isn't good, this has got a lot of confounding factors. So they take miners who are breathing diesel fumes and silicate dust and some of them worked in arsenic loaded ores and things like that. And they take those guys and this is what they get and there is the data. I said see, that shows that there's swan relationship. How many of you guys think you could get by with a paper not which you've proven that you have relationship? Boy it wouldn't happen in my class. So what do you think? Are these people who are making these reports just missing this thing? Are they ignorant? Do they not know what's going on? No, it's simpler than that. Here is what they say. The guys who end up, this is the National Council of Radiation Protection whose job it is to make recommendations on which the regs are based. And what they said is, this is in one report that's talking about the idea that low dose radiation and low level radiation is harmful okay. Few experimental studies and essentially no human data can be said to prove or even provide direct support for the concept. It's conceptually possible, but with a vanishingly small probability that any of these effects leading to cancer could result from the passage of a single charge particle. It's the result of this type of reasoning that a linear non threshold post response relationship can not be excluded. That's the case for it okay. But they go on to say in a later report it is important to note that the rates of cancer in most populations exposed to low dose radiation have not been found to be detected when increased. And that in most cases the rates of cancer appear to be decreased. So I say there's no scientific basis for thinking the low dose stuff is harmful. As a matter of fact if you look at the epidemiology it generally shows the opposite. And then they end up by saying so we recommend the GeoCENS to be harmful. And I say what's the basis here again? And they say gee. I said scientists I just gotta say I wish I knew more. I'm just trying to be conservative, I'm trying to be cautious. And it's a very important principle here because that sounds very like these guys are really doing the right thing. But the fact is if you are too cautious with folks, if you keep piling up safety factors so that you're totally misrepresenting the situation, then you're not cautious, you're just simply wrong. Just simply wrong. And you saw if you get so that people will not use nuclear medicine, which are the lifesaving techniques. If you have people who used to buy smoke detectors that have a tiny amount of radioactivity in them. I don't want radioactivity in my house. The smoke detectors that the fire chiefs all say are critical to save lives. And you wanna go a step beyond that you take the Chernobyl accident in Ukraine that was so serious back in 1986. The year after that accident there were 100,000 additional voluntary abortions downwind. In other words these are people who were told by their physicians or somebody that you're gonna carry a nuclear mutant and you don't wanna do that. So 100,000 people were told something that is just physically not true. That they were in danger of having a deformed child. And it goes on they moved all these people out of the area where they had lived for generations and generations. And suicide and clinical depression and alcoholism and all that stuff boomed among these deported people. And they won't let them go back to where they evacuated because the ground is radioactive. Well of course the ground is radioactive. It's radioactive everywhere. The ground around Chernobyl is less radioactive than my sister's front yard. There's nothing unhealthy about that. But those people were just being cautious and they're driving them to suicide. So it's an additional point that we don't think about. One you try to have good scientific proof. Two you try to be conservative. But the critical thing is that pile up these things so that you become totally , if you characterize something inappropriately. And a good example of that is the idea that you have emergency plans for evacuating nuclear power plants in an accident. And the worse thing you could do if you thought the air was full of fission products is to order everybody out to go around it. Even if it were true the air was gonna be full of fission products you wouldn't want people to be around it. And the fact is from the data that I was just talking about, that the air is not gonna be full of fission products. The worst thing that might happen is there might be a few people close for a short period of time. But in general you won't have any need to move anybody anywhere. We've done this in full scale with Three Mile Island, inadvertently. But there was no environmental damage. I probably went longer than I should have here. Let's get some questions. I've been deliberately trying to be provocative but I'm not trying to sell you something, I'm trying to jar you into asking some questions or making your own comments. But this is the way the situation looks to me and I welcome any kind of comments that anybody would like to get in on. I'll put one more little thought guy up there. This is a quote from Leo Tolstoy in a book he wrote about what is art, but it applies in our field as well. He says I know that most men, and this is written in a time when most men meant most people. I know that most men, even those who are clever and capable of understanding the most difficult scientific, mathematical, or philosophical problem can seldom discern even the most obvious truth. If it be such as obliges them to admit the falsity of conclusions they have formed with perhaps much difficulty. Conclusions of which they are proud, which they have taught to others, and on which they have built their lives. And that's we got. We have guys who made a whole life of proving that this is a very dangerous field, it's very mysterious. And we've got to have more and more research on it because it's so dreadful. And companies that are making a lot of money taking an Earth that is trivially radioactive and running it through all kinds of processes and trucking it someplace else and this kind of stuff. Billions of dollars are being used on this thing because the fear or radiation right now is more profitable than the utilization of radiation. Anyway on that happy thought I will turn the thing over to questions. And I've got more things that might answer some of these questions so fire away. And please use the mic.\r\n\r\n- Any questions? Yes, please use the mic.\r\n\r\n- I wonder if you could just relate your very interesting talk to your also very interesting title of your talk. I mean you seem to have a minority position here. Have you been like excommunicated or something?\r\n\r\n- Yeah as a matter of fact. You can not get people to work on the kind of research that would make this problem even clearer. We put a lot of pressure into trying to get some research money to do some of this work. Senator Domenech finally pushed through a bill for 10 million dollars a year for 10 years for the DOE to explore this thing. And they very deliberately designed it to handle no epidemiological data, no human data, no animal data. It's all stuff on single cells and that kind of thing that you can't possibly use to give you any good that would effect the real world regulations. The people who are trying to do this work have been defunded. Papers that have been written don't get published. This one the shipyard, that was 10 years and several million dollars and it was just crystal clear what the story was. They wouldn't publish it. And we said why don't you publish, there's nothing in the contract that says there's supposed to be a final report. Well they finally got laughed out of that one so they put this report out. They never submitted it to a refereed journal. They didn't mention the result at all, that the fact that it actually showed a benefit. 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there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1376.55,1381.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but if you can't get the money to do this kind of work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1381.71,1386.503"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's gonna stay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1387.408,1389.823"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that's not what science should be all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1389.823,1392.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Any other questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1394.37,1396.597"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have been posting Dr. Rockwell today","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1396.597,1400.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and see him after working with nuclear power","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1400.98,1405.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for 16 some years,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1405.0,1406.503"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he walk faster and think faster,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1407.539,1410.593"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I think I can sleep better (chuckles).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1411.855,1413.706"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm more relaxed of (chuckles) nuclear threats now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1413.706,1418.706"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So let's thank Dr. Rockwell for this-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1418.759,1421.757"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience clapping)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1421.757,1424.757"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have refreshments, punch and coffee and see there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1428.906,1433.906"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and please help yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1434.427,1436.059"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you have further questions,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=1436.059,1438.817"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448/transcript/28525/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sure that Dr. Rockwell will be happy to help 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You wouldn't believe it. We tried to get some help from the National Cancer Institute on a particular research project. The guy just looked at as coldly and said, \"That's not how I get tenure for my employment.\" Now I've heard guys say that, you know, they've had young people come and say \"I want to work for you, \"I like what you're doing, \"it looks interesting. And the guy says, \"If you come to work for me \"you'll never get a job in this field.\" This was another field like radiation was similar from an astronomer, and I said, \"Did it really happen that way?\" He said, \"None of these guys \"is working in astronomy anymore, \"they're all on the airfield because it's not enough.\" So the point is, you know, people are people and nothing is perfect. But I think that the main point from scientists is that I think we should be a little more humble about the fact that, you know, we're the guys that are the truth seekers, and all these other guys they get enmeshed in politics and all that nasty stuff, but this doesn't happen in science. You've got to recognize it does, and we should be aware of it. Part of the problem, I think, is that we tend to focus all of our attention on such questions on the lab science that to venture out in experiments. And he's only part of the process. The editor who decides to run the article or not run it. He goes and anonymously picks anonymous reviewers, which I think is nuts. I think the idea that science is the only field I know where reviews are not part of how a guy makes his reputation but they're a problem on your reputation or a diversion on your reputation. I think that I should stand up and defend it. In every other field like drama and literature and law, people make a reputation on the depth and the wisdom of their review. And science, it's all undercover, the guy never has to say who he picked as reviewers, the reviewers don't have to justify what they do, and I think that's part of the problem. So the whole process of science is the thing that science should be judged by. It's very analogous to law. In law, if you think a judgment was wrong and you want to appeal it, you appeal the process. You don't say, \"This poor guy, doesn't, \"you know, he's a nice guy and yakkety yak .\" You appeal the process. You say the little evidence that should've been inadmissible applies in the jury selection process. The same thing in science, if the paper is turned in, every scientist deserves a good rejection letter. That sounds silly, but it's important. You should get a letter of valid criticism of the work, you didn't handle the statistics properly, the database was too small, you didn't analyze this correctly, you didn't randomize this, whatever. We all know what are legitimate criticisms and what are not. I would really like to see there is a linguist who is very good at diversity. I would like to see a linguistic analysis of reviewers. And you can say, 'cause we can all see that's obviously legit and this is not legit. Regardless of whether you agree with the answer and regardless whether the paper was any good, we know how to criticize a lab letter, and it should be criticized legitimately. It isn't like any other processes Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- First of all, are these Socratic impressions?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I didn't actually get Socrates- And the reason I use Socrates, of course, was the idea that you really want to get at the hidden premises.\r\n\r\n- Exactly. So, two of your arguments. First of all, is the idea of the natural radioactive uranium ore. How many tons of uranium ore are processed in a single ?\r\n\r\n- Oh gee, I can't give you an answer on that, but-\r\n\r\n- Generally several thousand.\r\n\r\n- Yeah-\r\n\r\n- So you're concentrating the radioactivity to several thousand tons of natural ore to a single ball. So you say here that that promotes for-\r\n\r\n- Well, what I said was that you're taking a substance which has a billion year half-life and you're converting it into fishing products, which have much shorter half-lives, so in the long run-\r\n\r\n- Which makes them produce more radioactive over time?\r\n\r\n- It takes the same amount of activity over a small period of time.\r\n\r\n- If it has a shorter half-life, that means that more-\r\n\r\n- It gets-\r\n\r\n- decays faster.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, it decays faster.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Second of all, another point you state that the safety of the radioactive power plant is pretty much safe because of the fact that all the fuel rods are glass and ceramic. However, most of the danger from radioactive meltdown is from the pollution from the coolant fluid instead of the actual dispersion of the solid waste.\r\n\r\n- No, I don't understand that. Why would that be? What you worry about is stuff getting into the air or the environment.\r\n\r\n- Right, right.\r\n\r\n- But you have I don't understand the question.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- No go ahead, 'cause I'd like to understand it.\r\n\r\n- Oh okay. You say here that it's the coolant. But you state here, that if at some point there is exposure if there is overheating and that the facility is cracked or damaged, there is no danger of release of the fuel rods?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- However, what in general or the main rub is the release of hot gas from the coolant fluid which has been irradiated and .\r\n\r\n- Well- I'm sorry am I'm being entirely ?\r\n\r\n- Well, there certainly would be, if you had a really serious accident, there would certainly be contamination of the water, no question about that. But I think the thing that has worried people most, the water isn't gonna get very far, the stuff that's up in the air, you worry about, you know, how far it goes and people have heard wild stories about killing people at 500 miles and so forth and so on, so we were really looking at the plume. This is what they have evacuated things because of this plume, and that turns out pretty much to be a myth. We were wondering who creates such a myth.\r\n\r\n- Just last question, do you have the threshold where the danger that threshold assured several kinds of natural ?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, the optimum that people talk about is on the order of 10 rads. I'm looking for the chart for that curve. And the one, when it gets back up to the beginning, again, here we are. It's going out here. Here it is. This point, I'll get my magic marker. This point here, we think is on the order of somewhere between 10 rads and up here it's maybe 100 rads per year. And you don't have to worry about what those numbers are, because the thing that matters is how they compare with numbers that we use for standards. The standard is for radiation works is a half of rad a year. And if you talk about, when you're talking about leakage for Three Mile Island and all that sort of stuff, they get into the thousands. So you're talking about numbers in some of these standards where decay is setting for radium or uranium ore, for instance, is a fraction of 1% of the normal radioactive background. So even without any knowledge of radiation, you could say, does it make sense to try to eliminate a single in the presence of 100 times the same kind of in the background it's completely crazy, because you're trying to control a single . I guess the main conclusion that I would like you to take away is not that there are no problems for nuclear power. The conclusion I'd like you to take is that nuclear power radiation in general and radioactivity are subject to the same laws of nature as everything else. And we know what those are, we know what their limits are. They've been studied a lot more than most other . And so, sure we should be very careful how we operate these things. But the point is that they're not in some totally different realm. Albert Weinberg talks about nuclear energy as being a \"Faustian bargain with the devil,\" and he got something wonderful out of it, but he paid, pardon the expression, \"a helluva price.\" And I think that this just doesn't make any sense. This is part of the laws of nature, we know what they are. And of course we should learn these plans carefully and of course we should put in proper safeguards and all the rest of it, but we don't have to act as if this was a super human problem beyond the intelligence that mankind can control. After all, we have 400 of these things nationally, plus we have 100 in the Navy, and there has not been a single accident to date that has affected the public. The one exception being this one at Chernobyl which is a type of reactor that nobody wanted to build and never should have built there. But even that, even that caused no deaths to the public. There were at least three reported deaths in childhood of children's thyroid nodules, and it turned out that those three, they found two of 'em were no where near Chernobyl, and the third one was found with something else. So the official report of World Health Organization of the United Nations the latest report was a big factory report that made the statement that I just made, and it was challenged by some people who went over the whole thing again in 2001 and reaffirmed all this stuff again, and it's all on the public record in great detail this report which is about yay thick and $75 bucks a piece and it is a great deal . And as far as the public is concerned, the public did not get any damaging amount of radiation or fatalities in the public that are attributed to the accident. Yeah?\r\n\r\n- I've been working with radioactive materials for 40 years, and the only time that I ever had was a radioactive trace. The other time I did have problems with privacy of on how to handle materials, my partner was putting her lunch in the refrigerator where we store all the radioactive materials, and then she was found to be a little overdosed . Fortunately, she wasn't planning on having children at that particular point in time. But the world-class scare of using radiative materials or tracers or other sources of iodine radiation, so we've set up a lot of rules to handle these things carefully. But my question is, the impact of the coolant water to the towers that goes out into the rivers, is this damage done to the environment greater or lesser or the same as the environmental impact from a coal producing plant or gas producing plant that produce electricity?\r\n\r\n- If you mean the heating of the water?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, the coolant water like that goes out into the Hudson River has been shown to heat up the water sufficiently that it causes a lot of fish kill around that section of the Hudson. But so that's an environmental impact that's been measured on the Hudson River by the Indian Point Plant. But is this impact on the environment by the coolant water any different than similar environmental impacts from traditional power plants? We have a power plant there in that runs on coal, I think it's putting out a lot of junk in the air, and some people have said that it has spread as far as Canada . So what's the data on that nationally?\r\n\r\n- Well just from the water heating itself, nuclear power plants run at lower temperatures than the best of the coal-fired plants, and so therefore they're less efficient. And so therefore, for each kilowatt of electricity, they do heat the water somewhat more than a full , but this is a pretty small effect. The way we used to see it most was that the fish loved the warm water when the water gets cold, and the fisherman all like to fish around there 'cause it's attracting to the fish, but every now and then they would have a lot of fish that would attract, and then when the plant shuts down for refueling or maintenance or something or another, these fish are in trouble because they really count on the warm water and they suddenly don't have it anymore. But no it's the same process, and, of course, in terms of putting stuff in the air, nuclear plants don't put anything in the air. Actually coal-fired plants do put a certain amount of radioactivity in the air and nuclear plants don't .\r\n\r\n- ?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Any other questions? Dr. Rockwell, please, please.\r\n\r\n- On this curve here with low doses of radiation, I think you were saying stimulates or repairs with DNA repair enzymes or?\r\n\r\n- Yes, I'm talking about DNA repair. What happens is that you're getting literally billions and billions of DNA damaged by metabolism every day.\r\n\r\n- What kind of damage?\r\n\r\n- Just digesting your food. And this creates free radicals, and free radicals eat up the DNA, but the system was designed in an even more radioactive and clinically active environment and is designed to repair those, and the ones that can't repair he's got computer checking programs that see that it's done properly, and ones that aren't done properly are programmed to die so that they get carried away as dead cells, and our body produces billions of dead cells continuously and that's part of the way of the process of regeneration. You could buy a pine tree and see a lot of dead needles on it but that doesn't mean that the pine tree is unhealthy, it's all part of the process. So it's the same thing, because the radiation creates free radicals and the free radicals do the damage. So even if you get up to where you're given a lethal dose of radiation and radiation is gonna kill someone, it isn't doing anything 'cause you got increased damage to the DNA, but that's never the limiting factor. What happens when you get up to the lethal dose is that you're destroying the immune system and the cell walls and and other stuff. But if the whole thing is whether you're healthy or not, it's how effectively is the repair process that we count on keeping the body functioning properly.\r\n\r\n- So low doses are continually damaging the DNA and stimulates repair enzymes?\r\n\r\n- Well it creates, there's a whole bunch of things that happen when you challenge and a lot of processes. One of the these they discovered was that if you hit on a particular cell with a gamma ray, that about 50 cells around it give some indication that they got it. But that's part of how the word gets spread that, \"Hey guys we're under attack.\" It's and it's part of the process by which the immune system and other aspects of the body's defenses get stimulated to spring into action. I can show you a thing that you might find interesting here. This is a bad, a bad reproduction, but I think you can see it. This is a top view of a guy's skull and on the, whoops, try it this way, the top view of a guy's skull, and on the left, you can see that there is, in the upper part of the nasal cavity, right there, is a big tumor. This was at 8-1-91, and six weeks later, eight weeks later, whatever it is, that tumor is gone. Now what they did, they did not treat that, they say, \"Oh yeah, radiation knocks out tumors.\" This did not burn out a tumor by a high dose of gamma rays right on the tumor. That isn't what the process was. In this case what they did was to irradiate the rib cage with x-rays, the radiation never touched that tumor. But they stimulated the immune system . And I have a friend who was given a terminal diagnosis. He had three months to live or something like that with an incurable blood cancer. And he agreed to this low-dose full body radiation treatment, and he got a jolt of full body x-ray, and then this protein in the blood that was choking his blood stream out drops way down. Now like just the same kind of curve you get with chemo, but chemo leaves you just feeling awful, because you're trying to kill the cancer and just about therefore killing your own immune system. On this system, the guy felt great. He was 84 years old, he was going out at 5:30 in the morning two days a week working on Habitat for Humanity schlepping cinder block, nailing 2 by 4's and stuff like that, feeling great. As for when he had the chemo, he says, \"It prett'n near killed him.\" He says, \"I'm not gonna do that anymore.\" But this is something else that you cannot get people to do. This guy's doctor, when he said he was gonna do this, wrote him a letter and said, \"I want the record to show I'm against this, \"you're no longer my patient, \"they're gonna kill you with this stuff,\" you know bang, bang, bang. The guy went ahead and did it anyway and benefited by it. He's not all cured, he comes back in, he's gotta do it again, but the point is this work which is pioneered in Japan, done some nice work in Japan. Two papers from a Harvard Medical School reproduced back in 1976, published in JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association, nothing ever happened, it appeared, nobody commented, like I said, you can't get anyone to do this. That's not how said doing a big thing on cancer treatment all these different wonderful cancer treatments, no mention of no mention of it. You have physicians all over the world, particularly in Europe, sending patients to Radon Spas. They sit there and soak up the radon and they brag about how high the radon level is because that's the effectiveness of the thing. This treatment is paid for by the National Health Insurance of these countries, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and so forth. And they can't get anybody to get any records on it. This has been going on for hundreds of years. In Julius Caesar's time, in every culture, American Indian culture. The Japanese have some wonderful spas and all across Eastern Europe. I've been to one in Montana, and you should see , it reads like Lourdes, they've got crutches on the wall, especially when others call it psychosomatic. You come in here and your mind says this is gonna cure ya, it cures ya. And this lady says, \"Well that's interesting. \"How come my dog who could hardly walk \"when I brought him in here is out there chasing rabbits? \"Did they brainwash it?\" So if you look for this stuff it's there, but if you can't get the money to do this kind of work, it's gonna stay, and that's not what science should be all about.\r\n\r\n- Any other questions? I have been posting Dr. Rockwell today and see him after working with nuclear power for 16 some years, and he walk faster and think faster, and I think I can sleep better . I'm more relaxed of nuclear threats now. So let's thank Dr. Rockwell for this- And we have refreshments, punch and coffee and see there, and please help yourself. And if you have further questions, I'm sure that Dr. Rockwell will be happy to help you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43487/file/116448#t=0.0,1447.944"}]}]}]}