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I was advising premed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=31.66,35.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"student. So I was doing a lot of advising. But I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=35.38,39.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had written a textbook which was reasonably","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=39.82,42.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"successful. And in quantum chemistry. And but and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=42.76,47.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it was I my feeling was that it was just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=50.86,53.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personal feelings that they didn't want to promote","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=54.46,57.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=57.64,57.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So finally I I filed a grievance procedure. 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I mean we always I always felt that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=106.57,108.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in science yes science faculty worked very hard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=108.92,112.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the two main things they were for it's not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=113.29,115.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"money. 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Do you think that's a flaw of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=165.64,167.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"university system that it tends to focus and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=167.53,169.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reward research more than teaching in some ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=169.72,172.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh definitely. 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But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3045.15,3048.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to say well you're not good enough to be promoted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3048.3,3050.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we want you to stay here for the rest of your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3050.88,3053.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life. It didn't make sense. And of course people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3053.01,3058.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"soon realized that it was it was really just an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3058.92,3061.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oversight. The next year I didn't get my promotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3061.29,3063.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's good. But. It was just it was kind of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3063.87,3068.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"strange. Did that change to the years as I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3068.34,3070.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"presuming they added more women to the department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3070.8,3072.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did that happen again where they would do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3072.75,3074.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. No. I'm trying to think they know that not not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3077.4,3082.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the rate of hiring slowed down a little bit a few","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3083.97,3086.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years after that but I think they've hired two","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3086.6,3089.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"women three women since me and I don't I don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3089.15,3092.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think they that problem. It was just kind of a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3092.18,3096.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"historical little little lie when in when I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3096.02,3100.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was real common to leave women and instructor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3100.43,3102.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"assistant. Yes. Yes. I mean I just did it without","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3102.59,3105.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even thinking about it. Yes. Well I was the first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3105.86,3108.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"woman that they hired who had AP HDB at the time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3108.68,3112.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she was hired. Now one of the other women had a HD","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3112.1,3114.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but she tricked them by giving her BHP after they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3114.65,3117.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hired","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3117.32,3117.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her. Ah yes. She was the real pioneer but so you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3119.82,3124.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't but your colleagues didn't treat you any","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3126.35,3128.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different because you were a woman. Do you think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3128.42,3130.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or and this is my way home crush. I'm I'm an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3130.31,3133.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uppity woman so you bet they treated me different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3133.82,3136.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I took no lip but most women who went through this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3137.06,3141.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"system really had to be uppity and they had away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3141.38,3144.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So how did they respond to your upbeat uppity ness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3144.59,3147.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3148.37,3148.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sometimes a little puzzled I hesitate. One time my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3151.01,3153.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"department had come and this was when. Oh actually","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3153.71,3157.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did have problems being promoted to full","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3158.03,3160.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professor. I had written a textbook. But they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3160.7,3164.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"decided that that didn't count. And how did they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3164.45,3168.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"decide that. Well because they wanted to. But they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3168.95,3173.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/878","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were just using me so my I remember my. But I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3173.57,3177.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wound up filing a grievance procedure and I did","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3177.14,3179.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get the promotion. But I remember the department","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3179.78,3184.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had called me in and he was it was a reasonably","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3184.13,3186.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nice guy and he called me in to explain to me why","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3186.44,3190.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was not going to get a promotion. And so he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3190.25,3194.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"explained all this and I listened to it and I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3194.48,3196.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right I said. You've given me your opinion and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3197.61,3201.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now I'll give you mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3201.35,3202.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he looked at me in shock that I never had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3205.49,3210.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anybody do that. And I figured well at least he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3211.77,3215.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knows he knows how I feel and I know how he feels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3215.66,3219.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's fine. I'm going to let this run out because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3220.37,3223.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't want to interrupt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=3223.7,3224.75"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36675/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/675/original/MS0650_Gatz.vtt?1650911146","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/675/original/MS0650_Gatz.vtt?1650911146"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36676","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0650_Gatz.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920/transcript/36676/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- The filing the grievance and what that was like. Well. Well. Hard to know where to start. It's a complicated subject. Well I just I got passed over for promotion and I had become inactive in research at that time and I went into. I was advising premed student. So I was doing a lot of advising. But I had written a textbook which was reasonably successful. And in quantum chemistry. And but and I think it was I my feeling was that it was just personal feelings that they didn't want to promote me. So finally I I filed a grievance procedure. I filed a grievance. And the the upper administration granted that I might even need a hearing or anything they just they just granted it which got made some members of the department unhappy. And my feeling was what else. That's fine. But I know I have a friend at another school at a medical school who had to file a grievance procedure and as she said it kind of took the edge off a little because. Because it was not freely given tours and in a way that's true. I mean we always I always felt that in science yes science faculty worked very hard and the two main things they were for it's not money. What they work for is their own self esteem and the. I can't think of the word I want the recognition by their peers. Well I was denied the recognition of my peers. And and that has to hurt. And so I had left was just my own self esteem. And that's why that's why I quit doing research like that that's not my primary interest. I enjoy advising and teaching. I enjoy working with the students more than working in the lab. So I'm going to do what I enjoy and what I feel satisfied doing and not worry about what anybody else thinks because other people don't think what I want them to think anyway. Do you think that's a flaw of the university system that it tends to focus and reward research more than teaching in some ways. Oh definitely. Although that's one of the strengths of science in the United States is that our universities do support high level research. And I think it's important to do that in a way it has always puzzled me that. Universities should be our main performers of research just as it puzzles me that universities should be training grounds for professional athletes. I mean not those just seem like rather rather strange things that are kind of sort of tied in by tradition but. Private industry just simply cannot and will not support research particularly basic research to the extent that universities do because the company is interested in a financial product or a product that is financial and no system is perfect but at least in the in the university system there is peer review and the peer review is not is not just by the colleagues in your own department but by my colleague by it by people in other departments as well. And so there is a constant. Turnover. And maybe universities are a little have a little too much inertia and are a little slow to change but they do change and they change in a way that is at least reached by consensus. So no it's not a perfect system but it's it's it's an effective system. What is it like to work in your department after this happened. Because I mean you know your feelings are hurt because your colleagues don't right. Well actually. I I went on leave for a year. I traded jobs with a woman at that Manhattan Valley College in New York and she came here lived in my house with her family and I went to New York lived in their house and I taught her classes and she taught my classes. So I was away for a year. That and that was nice I just needed to get away and reflect on things. And I applied for some their job. So I was there and I thought about going into totally different areas such as technical writing. Either working for a publication or anyway. I thought about other things and I but I had about a year to think it over and then finally. Towards the end of the year I was trying to decide what to do. I still hadn't made up my mind and a friend said Well what do you really want to do. And I said What about what I really want to do is go back to Portland State teach my classes and not let my co-workers bug me. So he he didn't say anything. And I said oh I can do that Canada. So that's what I did. I came back I was perfectly happy and I did. I did what I wanted to do and this then and enjoyed enjoyed it very much. Now I'm curious about this exchange. How did you meet the person at MIT Henryville college. Well actually she wrote to several department. She she initiated that she was interested in an exchange. And so she wrote to several departments and she happened to be a physical chemist so somebody the department head I think who got the letter passed that to me. And I thought well this looks ideal for one thing I have some very good friends in New York City. And so this enabled me to spend a year there and and just you know just get a change of saying give me time that kind of sit back and think things over to regroup and decide really what I wanted to do. So it was it was very beneficial. And of course that's another good thing about the university system. The sabbatical system is great. I took a sabbatical after my first seven years and and I did go. I went to Caltech and did research full time for a year and loved it. And for a year you know full time research is great. It's not what I would want to spend my life doing. What did you work on while you were at Caltech. I did some theoretical calculations. To take a group I don't even remember what I was but it was a very complicated computer calculation so I learned a lot about computer programming and doing theoretical calculations. And this was this was just at the time that my book was coming out. So I was approved reading the book and I had a lot of time to to go through and work out a lot of details on the book and make sure that I got the bugs out. Do you think computational analysis really changed the field and a lot of ways. Definitely definitely. And in fact when I was an undergraduate and looking around for some sort of applied math I think if computers had been available then I probably would have wound up in computers. But I think I would have had the same objections that computer programmers basically work alone. I think you're right. See I would have ended up teaching anyway. I think so yes. So you came back to the department and I think probably because you got some reflecting time it sounds like it was not too difficult to carry on from there. Right. Right. Well here I want to ask you a little bit about any organizational networking that you did like the American Chemical Society out of Sigma Pi. Were you involved with groups that were involved in chemistry. Yes yes I did. I was initiated into Eyeota Sigma Pi at Iowa State and they had an active chapter at the University of Illinois because the chemistry department so big there even though women were a minority there were 40 or 50 of us. And. And actually we started a chapter of to Sigma Pi. In Portland. A number of years ago. At act well. Professionally I have not. I would say I haven't used that as a professional network although I know other people who have but it so it's a great social network because it gives and it gives me a chance to meet other women in Chemistry who are working in chemistry and related fields. And when we first started our meetings we used to have somebody give it a technical talk about their research. We soon discovered what we can. We can hear lots of talks about research that's not hard. What we want to do is just talk about you know how are things going with you. How are you juggling this and that you know how is your how how is your family doing it on. Do you have grandchildren yet. And so it's more of a of a social outlet but but with people who have the same career interests and the same the same type of life that I am so that there's that's been very valuable to me. Has it been interesting because I always say the same applies more woman oriented. Did you have a different different experiences and organizations that were more male dominated. Like yes. Yeah. Yeah I mean the that when I first came to Portland. About. 30 years ago 35 years ago. The local ISIS chapter was very much dominated by men. There were a group who just sort of ran it and women were allowed to come to the meetings but. That we did not that that was about the extent of our participation but that that has changed. I mean that will cause a lot of the old school is gone and now I'm and we've had the local chapter has had several women presidents. And I don't I don't think there's any any discrimination. Were you involved at the national level at all. No. No. You have the meeting sir. I went to a few of the national meetings. Yeah. But I I was never interested in the administration of the organization. Right. Understandably so. Were there other groups that you were involved in either professionally and personally. Well. Oh Sigma as I thought Portland State has as a chapter of Sigma as I Yeah and I was quite involved in that again and in the local chapter. I was I think I've held all the offices. President Vice President Secretary and Treasurer and I was treasurer for a long time. And and I enjoyed that very much because it is an interdisciplinary group. And. So it brings together many departments at Portland State including psychology and sociology and some of them some of the non physical sciences. And that and that's been that's been. A very pleasant group and just a good way to get. To meet other people on campus and foster communication because a lot of times you it just with the people that are in your own discipline. Yes. Although I will say too that our Dean of Science believed in interdisciplinary work. Of course that's why he started the environmental sciences HD program. And when when we were assigned offices we did not have a block of offices in one hall for chemistry and in another hall for physics and then another building for math. Everybody was all mixed together. I might have a physicist on one side and an engineer on the other side and a mathematician across the hall. And that was very nice to something a smart Dean. Well how. Here's a here's another question. As a woman who is involved in science how did you balance between your work and a personal life. Well oh that's easy I had no personal I thought answer Oh yes well I guess. I mean well. I guess I would say I was never really interested in getting married and having children. I wanted to I wanted to get out and work and make money and not in retrospect that may have been a wrong decision. But it seemed so right at the time that I had the feeling that it probably was right for me. And. I mean I I could have had a personal life but I enjoyed my work. And of course one of the things I liked about teaching is that during the school year I'd be working 12 13 hours a day. And then when summer would come I'd say OK that's it. Now I'm going to do what I want to do. That was that was my personal life. And no I don't usually do in the summers Well I. I travel and visit friends. I in Oregon we have the Shakespeare Festival down in Ashland. So I go down to that every summer. For many many years. I'd go to New York then visit my friends and go to the theater there. And I'd. And I'd read. That's what I got when I got reading that I've always enjoyed reading and read just literature or other types of all those sometimes. Sometimes I would just kind of read write detective stories just for relaxation. Now that I have a little more time to read I try to read better books. I mean I I don't I don't need now that I'm not working I don't need to read to relax. I read for mental stimulation. And how has retirement and wonderful wonderful. I was born to retire. I think a lot of people were. And so what do you like best about retire. Do you miss it at all. No not really. But part of it is that I didn't make a clean break if I had. You know if I were trying to teach or something on a part time basis then I think I'd be kind of torn. I decided to make a clean break and I did. I retired fairly early. I was 59 when I went on phased retirement but neither of my parents lived to be 60. They both died before they were 60. And my feeling was I do not want to die with my boots on. I want to retire and just do some things that I want to do. I know that the first fall after I retired I went to New England to see fall foliage I'd always wanted to do that. But when you're in teaching you do not take a vacation right. All right. Saw an I love music. And so now I have season tickets to the opera. The symphony a chamber music series a piano recital series. So I and I played duplicate bridge which has become an obsession. But you didn't feel like you could do those things when you were working because obviously working with number one right. Yeah. Which is. That's a common experience. Well and I know there are people who can who can balance their lives but well I just don't have the personality for that. I'm not a person who can juggle two or three balls at once. I whatever I'm doing I want to. I want to be able to work on and finish it up and then go on to something else if had to stop in the middle of one task in order to deal with something else and then take care of something else. I get confused and I'm like yeah I'm kind of obsessive. I have a couple ending questions. Number one are there any students that come to your mind that you particularly that have come back to you and say you know basically have gone on and the chemistry that you recognize their names when you see them around I'm assuming you have. Oh yes. Yes. That that the the first year that that I taught I taught this course for advanced undergraduates in quantum chemistry and included some spectroscopy or some theory behind various kinds of spectroscopy and both of I am just two students in the class both of them went on to graduate school and both of them went into spectroscopy. And that was a thrill because that was that was really one of my primary interests when when when I was in graduate school. And I that the last 10 years or so I was advising premed students and I really enjoyed that group of students I mean here's a group of over achievers I mean very bright students who are who are successful achievers. And I really enjoyed working with that group and I still have some close friends and I get letters from students who have just finished medical school or ah ah progressing in their careers and that's really a joy to me. That well that that's the advantage of teaching over research that teaching is a helping profession and that's what I usually advise students students they ask me for advice I think get into a helping profession you know go into teaching or medicine or something where you're dealing with people and helping people because you can get satisfaction out of that knowing that your life really mattered. I can't imagine anything worse than working in a job where you're let's say just sitting at a desk making money and particularly if you're making money by taking advantage of people by selling them something they don't need or can't afford. I mean what a. How can you sleep at the end of the day. I agree. Is there anything else you'd like to share about your career or experiences. Well the best advice I've ever heard which I would encourage everybody else to follow is. To. Follow your enthusiasms do what you love the money will follow. I think you're right in that. Well thank you very much. Thank you for this time. Well thank you tell me about nailing nail or inviting you in. OK. Well she she was assigned to advise all of the women in science and boy. So she was my advisor but actually one of the things that rather discouraged me from majoring in chemistry was the fact that here was a woman who was very bright very hardworking and she hurt her career was essentially dead ended. Right. And that was that that that that was really discreet. That was a discouraging word. But she didn't discourage you just her. No. On the other hand she didn't really encourage me to go into chemistry either. But she was she was in general supportive of women in science. I think so too. But actually when I have to say when I went to graduate school I was not at all sure that I'd ever get a job in chemistry. I wasn't sure that I'd ever be considered employable. So basically I did it as an intellectual exercise. I followed my enthusiasm right. And it took you to the right place. Yes but that was that was due to some good fortune and some good luck. But the point is if you're going to have good luck you want to be in position to capitalize on. Exactly. Well I think professors like Nellie nail are in some ways. They had they provided an example good and bad. I mean she's obviously a working woman in science. But at the same time you can see that she was not there a little bit. Yes there there is. They used to call it a ghetto. I think there's that there's there's a female ghetto in science now actually in chemistry is not as bad as biology because there were so many biology majors who are women that they sort of had a special category for them. A research associate. Now there weren't enough chemists to have it but there are a lot of women who have HD in biology who have made their careers doing biological research working for some man who is the principal investigator. So there really a second class citizen. That was really comedy and and I and I think I actually I was fortunate that I majored in physical chemistry because there weren't enough women that they could afford to have their own ghetto. I think you're right. Well thank you for that little addition each Thursday and this is an interview with Dr. Carol gaps and her home in Portland Oregon. And I understand you are born in Omaha. Yeah. Tell me about where you grew up and what that was like. Well. Actually I. Did a lot of traveling as it as a child because my father was in the National Guard virtually all his life. And in 1940 the National Guard was mobilized this was before before Pearl Harbor. So he was on active duty at the time of Pearl Harbor. And. He was stationed on the West Coast. So the the family went out as soon as he. Got. Settled someplace that looked like he'd be there for a little time. We traveled out to the west coast. And lived about a year in California. And then. He was transferred to Alabama. Oh really we're in Alabama. It was a. It was between Ozark and Enterprise Alabama. But I think it was about 80 miles south of. The capital. What was that. MONTGOMERY Yeah. And then then he was supposed to go overseas. So we went back to Omaha for a few months but it turned out he flunked its physical and did not go overseas with this company. So he went to North Carolina. So we went to North Carolina for about six months and then back to Omaha. So I went to seven or eight different grade schools since then. What was that like. Was it fun or was it. Well it was actually it was a lot of fun because I do have a sister and her brother. So we had a family. So I wasn't really lonely and oftentimes when we'd move I'd see kids whose fathers were in the army that I'd met at some other place. So it was actually quite an adventure and to this day. I don't really enjoy just visiting a place you know just staying in a hotel and looking around sites and I'd like to go there and live for a while and just do the the everyday things that people do there. And so this happened. What do you remember any courses that particularly interested you in grade school junior high high school. Math. And partly as a. One in one school that we're in in California. It was a very small school. It was a it was it had been a two room school. And because of the war the. The population had shrunk so it was one room school. And my brother and I were in the fifth and sixth grades and the one teacher ordinarily taught kindergarten through third grade so she didn't know anything about our subject so she just give us our books and say this study on your own. So that was great. We just loved it. And and and that's where I and I found math was really great that way because if I got stuck on something I can ask my parents or ask my big brother and if something was easy for me I could just breeze right through and cover a lot of ground that had that kind of experience in the other schools too. Probably not. No no you had to go out on your own. No but. But actually you know they can't stop you from thinking. And that started the habit in May of reading doing extra reading and studying on my own which which was a great asset when I got to Iowa State. But one good asset for any scientist or anybody out doing research now. Hi. Where did you go to high school. I went to high school in Omaha and I went all all four years at the same high school and graduated from Benson high school. And the summer before last. We just had our fiftieth high school reunion. And did you have any classes that you really liked. There are teachers that were memorable. Yes I had a math teacher that was pretty good at math. I would say is probably my my real love. You know I think I have read that curiosity may be an inborn instinct. And I think it probably is and I always had I was always curious about how things worked and how to explain things. So I liked math but I like math applied to practical things so high school physics was great because we. That we had we had two or three demonstrations a day and it was just fascinating. And I also had a journalism instructor who was. Very inspiring and I had an interest in writing. Ever since. That. As well as literature. And did you take any chemistry classes when you were in high school. Yes yes I took chemistry and it was all right. It was not my favorite course not mathematics. That's right it wasn't mathematical enough for me. But what I did once I got into graduate school I majored in physical chemistry. Yes I got that right. Yeah yeah I just took the mathematical aspect of chemistry. Now how did you end up at Iowa State. Well my older sister went to Iowa State my older brother went to Iowa State. They both majored in physics. So I started at Iowa State as a physics major but I took that first physics course and it was just a little too theoretical for my taste I liked applied things that I actually thought about engineering. But I thought well I don't want to be. You know that that was too strenuous too much too much field work. So I kind of I just kind of wound up in chemistry as the what seemed like the the most attractive Applied Sciences. And also one in which women could find employment right. I graduated from high school in 1950 and from Iowa State and fifty four and that was just the height of the back to normal movement when women. Quit or were fired from their war time jobs that they had even encouraged to get yes. Yes. Rosie the Riveter became Rosie the homemaker. And so it was an extremely traditional time where women. Were. Mothers and and homemakers and the men were the breadwinners. Did you notice any I guess responses to you at Iowa State that related to that. Were you encouraged to do chemistry or were you discouraged. Well. I would say neither one but when I when I decided to become a chemistry major I went when I at the start of my junior year they told me I had to declare a major right now. So I went around and talked to two people and two or three departments math physics statistics and chemistry and in chemistry they had me talk to an advisor Harvey Diehl. And he was just such a wonderful person and he just he just sold me on chemistry because to him chemistry was fun. It was just something that he enjoyed doing and he enjoyed figuring out how things worked and I thought what I can see this is a this is a field that I would enjoy. And so you end up right there. Yeah. Were there any other teachers that you had or professors that you had that read that you remember being particularly stimulating or. No. I mean that I don't remember any that were. So outstanding that they made a big impression on me other than Harvey deal. On the whole I was very impressed with the quality of the instructors that I that I had and most of my classes I found very challenging and I found that I learned a lot from them. I. I would say that there. May be maybe I had maybe one or two courses that I kind of sat through without absorbing very much. You had already decided to go on for graduate work or that was just an assumption now. Harvey Diehl told me told me I had to go on to graduate work. I didn't. I didn't know what I wanted to do and. With it with a bachelors degree in chemistry there was there were not a lot of job opportunities particularly for women. And I didn't quite know what I want to. I said Well of course you're going to graduate school had your brother and sister gone on for graduate work as well. No. Well actually yes. At that time my sister was five years ahead of me when she got out of college had gone into teaching and she decided to go back to graduate school in her field those mathematics. And she was going to work on HD. But when she got there she decided that she wanted to teach rather than to do mathematical research. So she took a master's degree and went into teaching. And my brother was just a year ahead of me. So he was in the army but at the time I graduate he got drafted for a couple of years. But obviously education was encouraged in your family. Yes. Yes. All of my grandparents immigrated to this country and so my parents both of my parents as as many first generation Americans are were very staunchly supportive of education and for all their children and the girls as well as the boys think right. So you started graduate work and what did you like it. Loved it absolutely loved it. It's one of the happiest times of my life. It was even better than undergraduate school because I didn't have to take hop at every step. Although I found that the literature and the history and economics and German courses that I took as an hit as an undergraduate were fine I mean they were intellectually stimulating and I did enjoy them. But in graduate work I could still read and and and pursue other interests that I had. But the coursework was just focused on my major. And I didn't have to take all that much coursework. And was mostly research. So it was just an ideal time. And of course I didn't have much money. I had a teaching assistantship so I put it independently poor but all of my friends were in the same boat. So just intellectually and socially it was just a wonderful time. And this is that L and the y right. Yes. And were there any special areas of research that you were really attracted to. Or topics. Well yes. I in fact I had a hard time choosing a. Research supervisor because there were a lot of faculty members who had things of interest to me. And actually Illinois was. Was unusual at that time and that they had biochemistry as part of the chemistry department at Iowa State. It is different in agriculture. And so I thought well I'd better look into this and add of course that was at a time when biochemistry was just blossoming and just beginning to bloom and I kind of missed the boat because I didn't go into biochemistry but the reason I didn't was one of my friends was taking a biochemistry course and I picked up his lab manual and I opened it up and it said kill a rabbit extract a liver and grind it up in a Waring blender. And I closed the book and I said no I will not I will not go into biochemistry now where there is many female students as there were male students in your program. Well not in physical chemistry there were only all two or three of us out of maybe 20. But at that other the other branches of chemistry had quite a few women here again this was one of the lucky breaks of my life I was born right in the middle of the Depression. In 1933. So it was kind of the opposite of the baby boom it was kind of the baby slump. So graduate schools were just. Where they needed graduate students and so it was it was relatively easy to get into graduate school at that time. And of course there was not a lot of money to repay for research but I was lucky again in my second year of graduate school. Sputnik went up right and that started a big competition. Now research money was easy to get I mean you just they used a joke you just send in your name and tell them how much you want and how long you wanted it for. And they'd send you research money so that that was really a golden age of scientific research. And then of course when I got out of graduate school the baby boomers were coming along and we're getting ready to go to college. And colleges were hunting for higher yes they needed live bodies. And so I had a fairly easy job get a fairly easy task finding a teaching position although I did. I worked in research for five years. And what were you doing there or who were you working. I worked at Stanford Research Institute. And but I discovered that I just didn't like full time research. It was too solitary and I'd go in my lab in the morning and I'd work all alone come out for coffee break and talk to people for 10 minutes. Back in the lab you know out for lunch. And it was just it was just too solitary. And so I said Well you know teaching is a good way to contact people. A good way to ensure that you have human contact every day. So I decided to try teaching and I discovered that's what I really loved. And that was your first teaching job at Portland State. Yes. So basically you spent your whole career at Portland State and what did you acted you to. Well besides the idea that was teaching that. You were obviously attracted to the area. Well I wanted to stay on the west coast because the last my last winter in Illinois was a very harsh winter and we had an ice storm that kind that hit when I was about halfway I was driving on a treadmill is about halfway there. So I decide this is it I'm going to Florida or the West Coast. And I do like the West Coast and I and I like Oregon. Oregon is. Oregon is laid back and kind of slow paced but that's that's fine with me. I mean you need to stop and smell the roses sometimes too. No pun intended since Portland is the race right. So what was Portland State like when you first started there. Well it had just recently become a four year school. It started as an extension of Oregon State. And got. Got flooded out. It was started in some I think some old started an old shipbuilding center up on Swan Island where I'm Kaiser had built the victory boats during the war. It got flooded out and so they moved into a downtown high school which had gotten a new campus. So when I first went when I first came here they had just four buildings. And the next building that they built was a parking structure. But my office was in the old Lincoln High School and one of the noted alumnus one of the alumni of Lincoln High School was Linus Pauling. Oh yes of course who ended up going to Oregon Oregon State. Now it was Portland State. It was an extension of Oregon State originally was it a commuter college basically. Yes yes. But then when they moved downtown they began acquiring more property and more buildings and they had become a four year school. Let's see I think I was about the sixth. The sixth or seventh person hired in the chemistry department and eventually got up over 20. It shrunk a little bit now because of budget crunches. I think it's down to about 15 or 18 but it was an A at a time of expansion we started a master's program and then a PHC program in environmental sciences. And so we added more faculty. We get more graduate students more undergrads. How many student Portland State have over the years. Well it seems to me. Right now it seems we have something like fifteen thousand now of course it's headcount and a lot of Portland State students are part timers. But one of the things I liked about Portland State is that it is a an urban university. And the average age of our students is something like. 28. So and many of the students are part time. Many of them work full time and go to school part time so they don't always have a lot of time to study. And there's they're stretched pretty thin because they usually have family obligations as well as financial obligations but they're in college because they want to be in college. It is a financial sacrifice for them to be in college. They're not there to party or to avoid working they're there to learn and even if they don't have time to study there they're pretty dedicated student and that makes a real difference in the classroom as well. Yes knowing the people in there really want to be there. Yes. So when you first started what kind of classes were you teaching the most part. Well I actually when I started I was teaching advanced classes. We just started we were just starting the master's program. So I had I think a graduate course in kinetics and a course for seniors and first year graduate students in quantum chemistry. And and then then I kind of sort of worked my way down after several years I taught physical chemistry and then I wound up for my last 15 years or so teaching freshman chemistry. But I think that's the way it shouldn't be because the graduate courses are easy to teach because that's my area of specialization I really know that. But General Chemistry I mean it covers everything. And it also requires a little more a little more teaching. You can't just you can't just say here's the material learn. You have to get it done. Yes. Yes. So now where are you continuing your research while you were teaching. For the most part. I was active in research for. A while about I was I was at part state for about 30 years I would say for the first 15 years or so I was active in research and what were the topics that you worked on primarily atmospheric chemistry. And how did you get into that. What what drew you to that. Well I was in graduate school I was working on gas phase reactions I was more interest than in theoretical aspects and then why different isotopic species would react at slightly different rates. But then at when I was at Stanford Research Institute doing research I did a lot on some atmospheric reactions particularly like nitrogen oxide and oh in the in the atmosphere. And both in polluted atmospheres and and in the normal atmosphere. So that's what I continue to get at Portland State and because our HD program was in environmental sciences that was an appropriate area right on especially with environmental movement kind of coming along and I got the impression that it was really focused on the west coast because it's just such a. Environmentally interesting place. Yes. Yeah. Now so after that you kind of got out of research and kind of focused more on your teaching biology. What were the main challenges of your teaching do you think. Well. I would say. One of the whale guards at one of the challenges is that I had such a variety of students in that first year chemistry course I would have. Students who already had a bachelors degree in some other field who decided that they wanted to go to medical school. So they were coming back to pick up their science courses. I had students right out of high school who. Really hadn't adjusted to college yet and didn't know how to study. And I had. Older students who decided that they that they wanted a college degree or they wanted to finish a college degree. Who were who were coming back and working or people who were working in industry who decided that some technical courses would be helpful to them in their jobs. And I know one year I had my youngest student was 12. And my oldest student was 67. Now how did you get around that problem. Well actually I just I just had to wing it. I mean there's not there's not much you can do and with 200 students in the class there's not a lot of personal attention that you can give. But. I just. That but that's what makes teaching a challenge I think it just you kind of have to start at the beginning. You can't assume that that there's anything any one thing that everybody knows. So you just have to start at the beginning and try to progress logically. Now what were the sizes of the classes that you taught. Well freshman chemistry would actually would start out. I think that the room had 200 seats and it would start out with about two hundred and twenty students. So I'd say don't worry you know in two weeks there's gonna be plenty of room to sit because some people are gonna discover they don't like chemistry at all. Some people are going to decide they don't want to come to class. But I would say one of course when I first started teaching and I'd be teaching these graduate courses I'd have four or five or six or eight students. And although at first it's a little intimidating to walk into an auditorium full full of students. After a while I found that it was hard to get up for a small group you know when you're used to having 200 people writing down everything that you say and recording everything that you say you know to to go into this a little small group but hardly seemed worth the trouble. A lot since she started out Portland State when it first started. What was it like to work with your colleagues in the chemistry department. Well. It was good and bad college departments are just notorious for department politics and and protecting turf and supporting pet projects and so forth. But the nice thing about teaching is that no matter how much we might argue in department meetings or disagree about things or or even even disagree about what we were going to teach what courses and what would be covered in those courses. When you get when you get into your class you're. On your own. Yeah. You're the Beer the queen and. And so you know I I I ran my classes and of course nobody else could could give the grades. That was you know so. So the teaching itself we were we were autonomous. And for the for the business of the course the business of the department it was sort of a. Friendly conflict. But of course if there is no disagreement there is no if there's no friction there's no productivity. Yeah right. Yeah. You'd have to have a little stress just to. Just to make sure that all viewpoints are represented. And what was it like to go through the tenure process. Well that was interesting. Because there was a good bit of discrimination against women but interestingly enough. Because I was a Depression baby and they were so desperate for faculty I mean they were they. And they were we were hiring like two or three new people in chemistry every year. We had we just had trouble finding enough people. So it was no problem getting tenure in fact after my third year when I was first eligible for tenure I got tenure but I did not get promoted to Associate Professor Anthony. Well I don't know why. And well that's because I was a woman. And of course women are not as good as men and about there were there were four of us three men and me who were up for promotion that year. And of the four of us. I was the only one who had a research publication. So it was just about it and it was an outright prejudice it was just a habit of the mind. And the three men were promoted to the three men were promoted. And I was not. And it was just I was just that was just the system that was the way things were then. But what seemed incredible to me is that you know if I could see where they might give me a promotion but not give me 10 years. But to say well you're not good enough to be promoted but we want you to stay here for the rest of your life. It didn't make sense. And of course people soon realized that it was it was really just an oversight. The next year I didn't get my promotion. That's good. But. It was just it was kind of strange. Did that change to the years as I'm presuming they added more women to the department. Did that happen again where they would do that. No. No. I'm trying to think they know that not not the rate of hiring slowed down a little bit a few years after that but I think they've hired two women three women since me and I don't I don't think they that problem. It was just kind of a historical little little lie when in when I think that was real common to leave women and instructor assistant. Yes. Yes. I mean I just did it without even thinking about it. Yes. Well I was the first woman that they hired who had AP HDB at the time she was hired. Now one of the other women had a HD but she tricked them by giving her BHP after they hired her. Ah yes. She was the real pioneer but so you didn't but your colleagues didn't treat you any different because you were a woman. Do you think or and this is my way home crush. I'm I'm an uppity woman so you bet they treated me different. I took no lip but most women who went through this system really had to be uppity and they had away. So how did they respond to your upbeat uppity ness. Well sometimes a little puzzled I hesitate. One time my department had come and this was when. Oh actually I did have problems being promoted to full professor. I had written a textbook. But they decided that that didn't count. And how did they decide that. Well because they wanted to. But they were just using me so my I remember my. But I wound up filing a grievance procedure and I did get the promotion. But I remember the department had called me in and he was it was a reasonably nice guy and he called me in to explain to me why I was not going to get a promotion. And so he explained all this and I listened to it and I said. All right I said. You've given me your opinion and now I'll give you mine. And he looked at me in shock that I never had anybody do that. And I figured well at least he knows he knows how I feel and I know how he feels. That's fine. I'm going to let this run out because I didn't want to interrupt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73080/file/158920#t=0.0,3227.68988"}]}]}]}