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This is our programming series focusing on arts humanities in the environment. My name is Cheryl St.Germain I'm the director of the center. We have a wonderful evening for you tonight. I am incredibly excited to have two guests. Scott Slovic who's come to us from the University of Nevada-Reno and Peggy Barlett from Emory university and a number of very distinguished members of our own faculty from various disciplines. We have a panelist from the art and design area. We have someone from anthropology. We have a historian, we have a scientist and we have a philosopher. We have a literary critic. So it's, it's really exciting for me to have all of these different disciplines here together talking about a single subject. And the subject tonight is \"what's nature worth?\" And I'll say just a couple words about what we mean by nature. This is a subject that could take up several semesters worth of talk, but for our purposes I think we need nature to be the non-human world. We, of course are part of nature. One could argue that everything is nature but we want to talk about how our various disciplines respond to that non human world and and where our relationship is to that world. Scott posed a number of questions to the panelist and we will address some of those questions and also range maybe far and wide from those questions. I'm from new Orleans. And I, I'm a great believer in conservation. So we're gonna we're gonna have some riffs off of, off of each other. And I think it's going to be very exciting. I will say a few words about each panelist ending with Scott Slovic and then Scott will make some remarks about 20 minutes. And I've asked the panelists to speak for five to 10 minutes after which we will take questions from the audience. There's a mic there. And if you would like to pose a question, simply walk up to the mic. Afterwards, we'll have a book signing. Also Steve Herrnstadt, who is one of our panelists, an artist. You'll see his, his work around on these isles. Will be, will be selling cards in the back, prints that will be he'll be sitting next to the people signing books. We'll also have a little, a little reception. I want to thank the English department philosophy and religious studies and lecturers for co-sponsoring this event. Fred, Fred Kirschenmann who is the second person sitting sitting up here is the director of the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture. Fred is also a professor of religion and philosophy. At the time of his appointment in 2000, he managed 3,500 acre certified organic family farm in South central North Dakota. He told me he still manages this farm only he does it via cell phone. He helped found Farm Verified Organic Inc, a private certification agency and the Northern Plains Sustainable Agricultural Society. He attended, he excuse me. He earned a degrees from Yankton College in South Dakota, Hartford Theological Seminary in Connecticut, and a PhD in philosophy from the University of Chicago. He's the author of numerous articles and book chapters dealing with ethics and agriculture. And I read on his website that he said that his training in philosophy teaches him to ask the questions beyond the questions. And I hope that that's something we're going to do tonight. Next to Fred is Steve Herrnstadt, who is an artist. He is obtained his MFA in studio art and art history from the School of Art and Art History at the University of Iowa. He is an associate professor in integrated studio, biological pre medical illustration in the department of art and design. He has published numerous pieces. The last latest of which I believe is \"Introduction to Visual Literacy,\" which has a 640 plus page interactive, worldwide web publication which he co-authored with Steve Arthur Kroil and Dennis Drake. He has had numerous one person exhibits as well as group exhibits throughout the state and the nation. Next to Steve is Ramesh Kanwar who is the department chair of the agricultural and Bio systems engineering department at Iowa state. He was director of the Iowa water resource resources research Institute. And until 2001, he's worked as a consultant for the World Bank, European Commission, Global Environment Facility, the United Nations Development Program, the United States Agency for International Development and NATO. He's an honorary professor at both Beijing Agricultural University in China and Tashkent Institute of irrigation and agricultural mechanization in Uzbekistan He is a fellow of the National Academy of agricultural sciences in India, and he has authored more than 400 publications. Next to Ramesh is Joseph Taylor the third, I will call him Jay from, from now on. He has his PhD from the University of Washington in history. And currently Jay is an associate professor in the history department, but unfortunately for us he has accepted another position at the same Simon Fraser University and beginning in the spring, he will be the Canada Research chair in history and geography at Simon Fraser University. This is a position that comes with a, I understand a well endowed lab and we wish Jay lots of luck, but we certainly will miss him. His work has won numerous awards. Just recently he's returned from North Carolina at the national humanities center where he was at John D and Catherine T MacArthur fellow in environmental studies. His book \"Making Salmon: An Environmental History of the Northwest Fisheries Crisis\" won several awards. The library journal listed it as the 10 one of the 10 best books in technology and science and the American society for environmental history awarded it the prize for best book in 1999. His new work is focusing on rock climbing and the modern environment culture. Next to Jay is Peggy Barlett, who is visiting us from Emory where she is in the anthropology department. Peggy will also be offering a workshop tomorrow night at seven o'clock back in the union on sustainable payments, excuse me, sustainable development and campus greening specifically as it as it applies to Iowa state. Peggy lives in Atlanta and she says that she's watched Atlanta become the poster child for sprawl and that that she has become aware of environmental and social harms of modern industrial society. Partly because of that witness, she has done a great deal of activist work in, in Atlanta, at, at Emory in terms of greening that college, including several new helping to establish several new communities of practice. Faculty green lunch ad hoc committee for environmental stewards, stewardship and many other other activities. She has several books out, two of which \"American Dreams, Rural Realities: Family Farms in Crisis\" and \"Agricultural Choice and Change: Decision Making in a Costa Rican Community.\" Finally, I'll say a few words about Scott Slovic are our hosts, basically for this panel. Scott is a native Midwesterner. He was born in Chicago, but he grew up in Eugene Oregon. He earned his bachelor's in English at Stanford and his MA and PhD in English and American studies at Brown. Scott's been a Full bright scholar at the University of Bonn in Germany and at the University of Tokyo in Japan. And he served as a visiting professor at Rice University and at the University of Queensland in Australia. Since 1995, he's been professor of literature and environment and director of the center for environmental arts and humanities at the University of Nevada-Reno. He currently chairs the graduate program in literature and environment at UNR which is the major program in the field as well. He served as the founding president of the association for the study of literature and environment from 1992 to 95. And since 95, he's edited athletes, athletes, journal aisle into disciplinary studies and literature and the environment, which is the central scholarly journal in this field. Since 1997, he's edited two books series and milkweed additions, credos series and the university of Nevada, Nevada presses environmental arts and humanities series. His scholarly interests include American, British, German, Japanese and Australian environmental literature. He just returned a few days ago, really from the Watermark International Nature Writers muster in Australia, where he gave several lectures and help to establish the Australian New Zealand branch of the association for the study of literature and environment. Published more than 60 articles on environmental literature has authored edited or co-edited nine books starting with speaking \"Seeking Awareness In American Nature Writing\" and including \"Getting Over the Color Green\" both of which are available at the book table. He's now he has three new co-edited books due out next year. And his talk tonight will offer a brief introduction to one of these titled, \"What's nature worth?\" Narrative expressions of environmental values. After all of that, I feel like I should send you home. That's probably the longest introduction I've ever done in my life but its well worth it. Please welcome Scott Slovic.\r\n\r\n- Thanks very much, Cheryl. Is this microphone working? Can you hear me? Yeah, you can hear me on the sides also? Thank you. Cheryl, could you do me a favor and help me keep track of time?\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- I had my watch off here but I really want to be careful not to go overtime. Okay? Perhaps you could let me know when 10 minutes have passed and again at 18 As I'm going to try speak for 20 minutes. Okay? So I I'd like to thank Cheryl St. Germain and her colleagues at the English department and the Center for excellence in the Arts and Humanities. And I'd also like to thank my fellow heroins for participating in this forum. I feel very honored to be here and thanks to all of you for for showing up to listen to us talk and participate in our discussion afterwards whether you're here voluntarily or under duress. Thank you. This is, I think of these remarks under the rubric of the following title, \"What's nature worth?\" Attention sensation and valuation through environmental literature. \"I'm sorry, Ms. Williams. There's something about your voice I cannot hear. There's something about your voice I cannot hear.\" This was Utah Congressman Jim Hanson speaking to nature writer Terry Tempest Williams after she presented essay \"bloodlines\" as a testimonial statement during a public hearing in Southern Utah regarding wilderness preservation in that part of the state back in 1995. The idea that there are certain kinds of voices certain modes of discourse that were unheard and perhaps unheareable in public discussions of environmental values and policy is what inspired Canadian anthropologist Terry Satterfield and me to undertake the project that's called \"what's nature worth? Narrative expressions of environmental values.\" Seven years ago, a book that has evolved from this research will appear from the university of Utah press in the spring. Sorry this microphone seems a little funny. Okay. I'd like to backtrack a little bit and discuss what I considered to be two of the central facets of the field that we often refer to as environmental literature. First of all, how this writing guides us to pay deeper attention to our physical senses and enables us to appreciate our own embeddedness in the world. And also secondly, how this writing enables us to develop clarify and articulate our feelings about the world meaning , its value. So to engage our with our senses and realize our presence in the world are, are visceral, fundamental connectedness to other things in the world other parts of nature. And secondly, to develop our sense of value and to articulate these values. These, I view as crucial parts of the project that we call nature writer. So I, I posted several questions fairly basic broad questions to the other panelists earlier in the summer. And I don't know that I really grew up before the questions behind the questions but I tried to ask some fairly broad kinds of things that I wanted to think about with my colleagues from various other disciplines. And I tried to deconstruct those a little bit this afternoon but I'm not sure I remembered exactly what I had initially asked. So ,what some of the things that I'll I'll approach in this discussion are where do our environmental values come from? Our sense of nature's meaning or its importance. How are these values formed? What can different academic disciplines teach us about nature's value? And what kind of education do we need in order to live sustainable lives in the world? I often find myself referring to Indiana writer, Scott Russell Sanders, 1987 essay \"Speaking A Word for Nature,\" which was published in his book \"Secrets Of the Universe.\" I referred to this as a key articulation of what literature it needs to do if it's to help us appreciate the ecological implications of our presence on the planet. In this essay, he critiques the tendency in popular contemporary American writing especially fiction to ignore non-human nature. He calls such writing pathological for its avoidance of reality. Its neglect of questions and issues, crucial to the current and long time survival of our species. This is what Sanders writes. However accurately it reflects the surface of our times literature that never looks beyond the human realm is preferably false and therefore pathological. No matter how urban our experience, no matter how oblivious we may be toward the toward nature. We are nonetheless animals, two legged sacks of meat and bone meat and blood and bone dependent on the whole living planet for our survival. Our out breathing still flow through the pores of trees. Our food still grows in dirt. Our bodies decay. Of course we all nod our heads in agreement. The gospel of ecology has become an intellectual commonplace but it is not yet an emotional one. For most of us, most of the time nature appears framed in a window or a video screen or inside the borders of the photograph. We do not feel the organic web passing through our guts as it truly does. While our theories of nature have become wiser, our experience of nature has become shallower. Thus any writer who sees the world in ecological perspective faces a hard problem. How despite the perfection of our technological boxes to make us feel the ache and tag of that organic web passing through us. How to situate the lives of characters and therefore of readers in nature, end quote. So the great difficulty faced by writers who tend to be attuned to their personal experience of the world. And the implications of that experience is to communicate their ideas to a readership that first maybe more interested in watching television or film than in reading and second a readership that has little direct experience of the non human world. I live in a fairly typical suburban neighborhood in Reno, Nevada, where large houses covering entire lots and the most prominent features of many homes are the multiple garages for cars. Sometimes as many as four or five garages perhaps. I seldom see my neighbors. They drive home from work, electronically opened their garages and close the garage doors by remote control after they drive in . This I view as a kind of metaphor for how they live their entire lives. How many of us do in this contemporary American society more or less enclosed within human constructions. Compelling such people to think of the ecological implications of their lives is an uphill challenge but it's a challenge that many contemporary writers and artists nonetheless feel compelled to take on. So I started thinking recently about what the role of literature may be in stimulating us to pay more attention to our senses. And the phrase that I thought and myself developing is that this is not nature writing or environmental literature exactly, but it's the literature of sensory ecology. It's a literature that inspires readers and listeners to pay more attention to the physical senses. It somehow prompts us, exhorts us to remember our senses. And then often enacts or demonstrates how to use our senses. This may seem trivial and irrelevant because all of us basically know that we have certain fundamental ways of sensing the physical world. But we tend to live lifestyles that are increasingly deprived of sensation. Or if we, if we do notice our sensations We don't know what to make of them we don't know how to derive meaning from the world as a result of these. So I started referring to this literature of sensory ecology as a way with my literary colleagues of suggesting that environmental literature, the literature of sensory ecology is not just a toy but it's something that is contributing meaningfully to contemporary society. The SAS and poet Diane Ackerman writes in the preface to her her book,\"A Natural History of The Senses,\" how sense luscious the world is, how sense luscious the world is. Many of us actually go through our lives not quite thinking this not aware of just how fabulously luscious and engaging the world actually is. Unaware of how our senses are connecting us moment by moment to the rest of the world. It's the purpose of most, if not all, all of the people that we often call environmental writers to do just this, to stimulate us, to be cognizant of the fact that the world is sense luscious it's it's it's constantly stimulating us and interacting with us through our physical senses. There's actually a substantial body of literature specifically about the physical senses. I'm thinking of Australian SAS Eric Rolls' 1990 book \" A Celebration Of The Senses\" or the brand new book 2003 book by Japanese-American farmer and nature writer David Mas Masumoto called \"Four Seasons In Five Senses: Things Worth Savoring.\" If I had a bit more time , I'd actually read to you a brief passage, a vignette, from Alaska nature writer Richard Nelson's 1989 book \"The Island Within\" which demonstrates how the vivid, that the narration of a vivid experience, physical experience leads directly into a contemplation of the broader ethical and ecological implications of that experience. The passage that I thought I might read before I decided to really abbreviate this talk is a kind of allegory. It's a powerful demonstration of how we need first to feel the world. How we need to sense the world and then to reflect upon these sensations. Actually on, on the flight over here when I was still planning to read this passage, I copied out a page long narrative from Nelson's book about his his encounter with a bald Eagle where he decides to creep closer and closer to the Eagle than he had ever been, and actually begin climbing up the tree until he's perched 15 or 20 feet below the Eagle, examining every aspect of it and simultaneously being examined by the Eagle. Ultimately it's a kind of demonstration of the reciprocity between the human and non-human to not just to to grant agency to the non-human world so that the world has the power to take him in and then make decisions about how it behaves not just to be an inert object acted upon by the human. The reason I selected this particular passage is that last week, while I was traveling in Australia with Richard Nelson, driving all around Eastern Australia my son who was a 10th grader in high school in Reno was taking a national standardized test. And he said, you know, we had to do this reading comprehension portion. And we read this excerpt from Richard Nelson's \"The Island Within\" where he encountered an Eagle. And it seemed to be a fabulous example of the mainstreaming of this kind of literature. And I wondered whether 10th graders all across the country might be reading this passage and lodging it in their memories and thinking about it . And it seemed like a fabulous way of of getting the nature of writing out to the general public and forcing them to think about the natural world. Even though most of them are just thinking about which college they're going to get into. But anyway that's from \"The Island Within.\" And I won't, I won't read that whole passage to you. Often nonfiction has a special force because it's based on actual experiences. It has a kind of journalistic power, a special kick because the things described more or less have actually happened. But fiction also is a particularly good genre in which to present narratives that are readily perceived not only as specific stories, but as allegories that mirror our own experience or help us to project ourselves into the stories that others are telling. There's something about the fictional medium that gives us the space to imagine that we are participating in these narratives and kind of constructing our own parallel stories. There are many fine examples of environmental fiction that functions allegorically to demonstrate how engagement with the world through our senses might somehow revitalize us and enable us to live more conscious and meaningful lives. One fine example of this is David James Duncan's 1983 novel \"The River Why\" about a narrator who's a fishing prodigy who comes to learn that it's important for him, not only to know how to catch fish but to appreciate why he finds it useful and meaningful to have such interactions with fish with nature. One of my own favorite fictional allegories of sensory engagement with nature is actually James Dickey's 1978 novel \"Deliverance.\" The novel begins by depicting four main characters, modern suburban American men, jaded and alienated by their trivial lives. The narrative as many of you know describes their weekend adventure in the Backwoods of Georgia, as they undertake to float a river one last time before it's damned and lost forever. The damming of the river itself serves as a powerful metaphor of course, the dreadful draining of life energy from the lives of these suburban characters through their daily, on we and alienation. In a fairly brief span of pages, we can see clearly that the novel is about learning to celebrate sensory experience of the world. Here's one of my favorite passages, \"justice the character Louis is driving his car down close to the Khula Wasi river with a narrator Ed in the passenger seat. \"Hold on\" Louis said and tipped the car forward. Rhododendron and Laurel bushes closed in on us with a soft limber rush, a branch of something jumped in the window and stayed lying across my chest. We had stopped and I sat with the pressure of the woods against me. When I look down I saw that one leaf was shaking with my heart.\" Just a few pages before the narrator Ed sat in his office at the advertising agency where he worked and felt enervated, almost lifeless unsure that his heart was even beating. He felt like a ghost. Already in this early passage after they've begun the river trip he starting to attend to the world to notice things. The description of the leaf leaning against his beating heart is a telling line. The novel as a whole illuminates the pain and the value of living intensely in the world. Acknowledging and fully attending to our senses is not an immediate solution to the frustrations. The on we and boredom that we feel often in our suburban mundane routinized, overly scheduled lives. It's not an immediate solution to the problems of our society, but paying attention to the senses some would argue is a necessary first step. The idea that we can begin with personal sensory experience and then quickly build upon such experience in order to develop a better understanding of large scale ecological processes is well explained in environmental education scholar Mitchell Thomashow's recent book, a 2002 book \"Bringing The Biosphere Home\" learning to perceive global environmental change. Thomashow suggests that we can use our senses to explore connections between our specific places in the world and the rest of the planet. He argues that it's crucial. If we're to know what's happening in the world during this time of significant changes for us to think in terms of relationship, particularly the relationship between our place and other places our moment in history at other times, past and future. Several of the Thomashow's points specifically tie in with the role of literature in helping people to quote bring the biosphere home, to understand the big picture of the biosphere of the planet and its atmosphere by way of close attention to home where we are at any given moment. Here's, here's his explanation of the methods of his own practice of biospheric perception. Many people don't want to pay attention or worry about big kinds of global change because these seem beyond our perception and they seem to be attractable, immovable forces. And so what's merely frustrating. We think, to try to to notice what's going on. That's one reason I think why George W. Bush doesn't want to pay any attention to global warming because he's worried that he's powerless to do anything about it. And it's very easy to dismiss it and ignore the possibility that that exists because global warming he would argue cannot really be perceived. You know, you walk out doors and yes, I know it was 89 degrees yesterday at the end of October in Ames Iowa. But, but what does that really mean? Mitch Thomashow says, \"first, I emphasize the importance of routine experience in the course of your daily affairs and adventures. You have all the material you need for interpreting global environmental change. Biospheric perception is a practice you can engage in wherever you might be.\" Second he says, \"I accent. I accentuate, I emphasized the narrative experience. I probe the stories that emerged from childhood memories travels and conversations in conjunction with imaginative forease. Third, I encourage you to carefully observe what you observe knowing your proclivities and interests assessing your insights, figuring out your perceptual and ecological strengths and weaknesses. The things you you see, as well as the gaps and using good teachers to help you with this. Fourth, biospheric perception is a community practice. Something you engage in with other people. It takes lots of folks pointing things out to each other to reap the deepest insights. You don't have to understand everything by yourselves. If you talk to people as we had this panel together at dinner, and I felt that if we had merely talked about our experiences today and then begun to extrapolate from those experiences based on what we know about the world and of the environmental processes of the world we could have constructed a fairly in-depth and powerful image of the state of the world today, as a community talking together. Fifth he says, Thomashow says \"I emphasize the importance of global change science as a means to provide balance balance and ballast for your observations. The biosphere is not necessarily what you project it to be. It involves processes and patterns that are empirically derived. So any one of us as lay people or as specialists in non-scientific disciplines can use our perceptions to notice things about the world but that's not to say that we should entirely neglect the theories and perceptions of formal empirical science.\" And then finally, says Thomashow \"I wind through a shifting the nominal phenomenological and existential passage. By phenomenology I've referred to the great insights that can be derived from one's direct sensory impressions. By existential, I convey the impression that we are investigating ideas and concepts we can never fully understand. So this sense of humility this desire to understand how the world works and what our relation to the world is, with the caveat that we can't quite ever fathom exactly what's going on. That somethings will always be mysterious to us, seems to be an important element in Thomashow's perspective and it's certainly something that went off and finds an environmental literature. An idea that there was a limited ability to actually understand the subtleties and the vast processes of the world. I've said a few things now about paying attention to the world. Briefly touched on the idea that environmental writing expresses author's own physical encounters with the world and their ideas about this, these encounters. One of the crucial questions about literary accounts of such experiences and ideas is how they will affect readers and further how such writing might eventually have an impact on environmental laws and policies and on the daily behavior, even the conscious and unconscious world views of other members of society. Remember the passage with which I began this discussion the oft quoted statement by Utah Congressman Jim Hansen. It may someday be printed on his tombstone. \"I'm sorry Ms.Williams, but there's something about your voice I cannot hear.\" Comfortable with and accustomed to the discourse of law and economics but less so with the language of story at least in a public policy context Hansen could not pick up the usable values related aspects of William's narrative. They somehow you alluded his hearing his comprehension. I'm going to skip actually reading the opening paragraphs of William's short essay bloodlines because I feel like if I presenting any of it I should read the whole thing. And I don't want to take the time to do that necessarily. But if you look for the the book \"Bloodline\" or the book \"Testimony\" edited by Stephen Trimble and Terry Tempest Williams published in 1996, by Milkweed Additions. You can get a copy of that essay \"Bloodlines.\" And it will also appear in the book \"What's Nature Worth.\" As I mentioned earlier I've just completed this seven-year project with Theresa or Terry Satterfield from the University of British Columbia sponsored by the environmental values program at the the American National Science Foundation through which we conducted in-depth interviews with a dozen distinguished American environmental writers ranging from native American authors, such as Simon Ortiz and Ophelia Azapeda to Terry Tempest Williams herself and then a variety of other writers. It was our goal specifically to use these writers as lay ethicists, as people who devote their lives to using language as a way of understanding the value of nature, not as academic specialists in the field called environmental ethics, but as storytellers who work every day to understand the value the meaning or the importance of their experiences in the world. We asked them questions about their approaches to writing stories, essays and poems. We ask them to reflect on how information... Time to stop?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Two minutes or?\r\n\r\n- You've gone twenty minutes.\r\n\r\n- Oh, Oh okay. I didn't, I didn't know what your sign said. Okay Sorry about that. Couldn't read the sign. Sorry about that. So, anyway, this is an effort to just abbreviate a vast vast study of environmental values and and the language of story to reintroduce story into the discussion and to suggest that it's relevant to the kinds of decisions and public policy evaluations that are being made in various other branches of environmental studies. If there's an opportunity during our following discussion, I'll actually read about a 12 line poem by Ophelia Azapeda to give you an example of this language that we feel is communicating environmental values but in a rather oblique narrative fashion thanks a lot for your attention.\r\n\r\n- Well, let me follow on that with a couple of simple ideas that I think we all need to wrestle within our culture. And the first idea is that, which is very deeply ingrained in our culture, which is that we are somehow separate from nature. That we act upon nature that nature is out there and we are, we are here. And it really, that that notion has really pervaded almost all of our relationships to ourselves, our relationship to nature, our relationship to, to other human beings. And, and so, so it's an interesting question to ask how how we got there? How we got to thinking about ourselves that way. And then of course, many people that have have wrestled with this, David Abraham had a wonderful little book called \"The Spell of the Sensuous\" argues that it really began with written language that when we had oral cultures we were much more saw ourselves as a part of of everything else in the world. And we built our stories around the local experiences that we had in the world. And then when we gravitated toward written language we got more engaged in the abstractions. And so we're no longer engaged. And we were engaged in the thoughts about deer rather than engaged with the deer. And, and he makes a very compelling argument for that. Morris Berman in a, a book which published back in 1981 called \"The Re-Enchantment of the World\", argues that that the real a real separation from nature or the sense that we're somehow separate goes back to the 17th century and the emergence of the scientific revolution and, and in tandem with that the industrial revolution. And the scientific revolution taught us that we indeed need to need to separate ourselves in order to be objective in order to that our rational minds and analysis of, of the truth around us can be understood without interference from our passion or or other things that would detract us from your truth. And the industrial revolution taught us that in order to increase our wellbeing, we need to exploit the natural resources around us to our benefit. And so nature ends up being as Thomas Barry describes it a kind of collection of objects rather than a communion of subjects. And of course, if we take anything seriously since Darwin about what the world really is like with this very complex system of organisms and various kinds of cooperations and competitions, then of course, we recognize that it is more a community of subjects than a collection of objects, but whatever it is that led us to that point of here we are. And so the second, the second kind of question then, which which emerges is this whole notion of that, that human act. As, as we try to, I think as we try to address this and try to heal this, we then come to the conclusion that human activity somehow ends up being bad and evil and, and natural activity or the activity within nature is, is good. And I think that's problematic. And even, you know, when when Wallace Stegner uses the, this, this wonderful metaphor about getting over the green, the color green which Scott used as the title for one of his wonderful anthologies. And you know I hate lawns because I think you know, there's a lot of things about how we manage nature with lawns which could be a whole lot more creative and interesting. And, and that's sort of the kind of the metaphor that he has in mind when he said we need to get beyond the color green. But, you know in point of fact, as, as Richard and others that geneticists from Harvard and others have pointed out is that all organisms modify their environment. In fact, if it weren't for all of the organisms within nature using the bits and pieces of nature that are available for them and modifying that, that those bits and pieces to to enable their own existence we wouldn't have such a thing called as an environment. It is all the activity, all of the organisms in nature modifying the environment that produced, this these rich set of relationships in which the wastes from one species becomes the food for another species, et cetera. And humans are simply a part of that trauma. You know, we modify the environment as well. And so the question I think is not that humans modifying the environment over nature organisms which are somehow, you know pure and clean and don't modify the environment. That's really not the way it works. And the real question then becomes how the modification of the environment affects the whole. And over this 3.5 billion years since living organisms have been a part of this planet there has emerged this, this very vibrant and relatively resilient community that enables the whole system to function and the individuals within the system to survive. But as Lewontin reminds us, it's been a very costly process. He, and I don't know where he gets this data, but he insists that 99.9% of all of the species that ever existed on this planet are extinct now. And most of them became extinct not because of human activity, cause we haven't been around that long. So, so we have to put all of this in context, I think. And then therefore, if we look at it this way, the critical question becomes how are we modifying the environment? You know, we, as a, as a species now which has these incredible tools that we have that we have invented for ourselves and therefore have the capacity to modify the environment in ways, nature in ways that, that it, that is that is unprecedented in the history of the planet. Are we, are we doing that intelligently? What are the criteria that we're using? What are we trying to accomplish? And so when we ask the question of what's nature worth? There's sort of a simple answer to it. And it's how long do we want to continue to be around? Because there is no good reason to believe that the human species may not follow all of the other 99.9% of the species that became extinct before us. And so it really becomes vitally important and in our interest to, to, to do our part of the modifying of the environment of modifying nature in ways that as as although Leopold reminded us, enable the capacity of the whole to renew itself. I mean, that's, you know we can't preserve nature in its natural state because nature is always changing, all of the organisms working with one another and the environment constantly gonna change it. And a million years from now the environment's going to look very different from the way it looks now because of all of that activity. But the one thing we can do as Leopold suggested is that we can do our part in this community in this biotic community of doing it in a way that has the greatest potential for the whole the whole system to retain the capacity to renew itself. Cause that's its resiliency and that's our future. And I think that's a little different way of thinking about it. And it becomes especially important when we think about things like agriculture. Because it's so easy for us to quickly say, well we're going to preserve the environment over here. And then while we got agriculture over here and they're going to screw it up, but you know if we keep a piece of that, a piece of it, you know in its natural state, then we're going to be okay. And you know, this way of thinking about agriculture is very very recent in this 3.5 billion year history. And it was like a nanosecond and there was no good reason to believe that we're going to be able to retain the capacity of the whole to renew itself, approaching it that way. We have to start thinking about agriculture as a piece of nature, as a peace with nature. And how do we manage agriculture in such a way that it also creates habitat for the continual renewal and renewing, maintaining the capacity of, of the whole to renew itself. So that agriculture is, has to be seen much more as folded in and the peace of nature rather than somehow a human activity that's separate from nature. It's not separate, nothing is separate, it's all connected.\r\n\r\n- Don't start the timer now. Unless you think that the prints over there are selfless and unabashed self promotion. What I wanted to make clear was that the proceeds from it go to support or are going to be donated to the center for excellence in arts and humanities. First of all, the titles of all of these pieces, except one is \"Sacred Trust\" that's been the titles of all my pieces for a decade. The exception is \"Satori\", which is the one of the the three claws, the pink one on the end. just to give a little bit of context to those but what I'm gonna talk about is something entirely different. A $20 bill. A new $20 bill, you can't counterfeit these apparently. Stands for one 19th of an ounce of gold as of last Friday on spot market. That's 1.5 grams of gold. At and or 1.5 grams at an density of 19.3 grams per cubic centimeter that comes out to 0.08 CC's, okay? Less than the thickness cube less than the thickness of this dime. I took the Liberty and cutting apart another dime. Don't tell the treasury department, that's it. It's $20 in gold. It's actually not gold and silver and zinc but lest you die for it. The value of nature, nature's worth, how much nature does $20 buy? What's commonly when we apply a value to something we mean to translate the value into a dollar figure. It seems to be a neutral and objective unit of measuring with which we can compare worth. Insurance companies currently put the value in court cases of a human life at about $1 million. That's a lot of money. It can't buy you a loved one or bring them back to enjoy that million dollars with you. How many of us would be willing to trade our personal unique lives or those that are close companion for $1 million or a stranger, perhaps? That's rhetorical. How do we put a human or how do we put a value on human life is current events and a large sum of a large part of human history serves as any guide as a collaborative mob herd. We don't value it much unless it affects us directly. So right now, as far as business and government are concerned, compensation for loss of life is about 50,000 of these things. These pieces of paper ,in court. How do we value non-human life? As a species it's evident from the arguments made in the news on talk shows in editorials every day, that we don't care too much. We are after all humans, capital letters the rest of creation is subservient to us. In our view nature is for our years, it says so in the Bible doesn't it someplace? Something about our dominion over et cetera, et cetera. Statements like, eww a bug squash it gross. It's just an insect, kill it. Or worse yet an absent mindedly matter of fact, the step on the life which happens to be a bug without considering that you have extinguished a life form. Senship or not, who's to say? How does one justify respect for a tree? Which someone else sees merely as board feet. Rocks, water, air et cetera, The only function of these is its matrix. We hold the things we consider. They hold the things we consider as precious. 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Our culture has decided on the dollar as a unit of measure of worth for almost everything except as the saying goes, putting a price on love. The donor is a measure of business and transaction. It was originally conceived of for that purpose and remains as its purpose. It is a measure of power, which is traded back and forth as an exchange of energy, life energy. I give you $20 worth of my life energy for this object and which you and I agree took $20 of your life energy to produce on more or less, depending upon how much I wanted and how much you wanna sell it. I worked for an hour for this university. I get to store somewhere an hour's worth of my life energy in account. Apparently some people's life energy is worth more than an hour of my life and some are worth less, some are worth much less apparently. The use of monetary currency is a measure of the value of nature is inherently biased against keeping nature as it is and bias towards using nature for economic development, even at the level of green economy. The questions usually go towards how many jobs are created, how many daughters will be saved after all is said and done, how much income will be created for the local economy, how many sick days and therefore dollars will be saved if we leave the wilderness alone for recreation and psychological relief, these are very short term questions but they fit well into spreadsheets. They can be sound and rationed and compared as long as the playing field upon which nature is being examined then development, as long as this is the playing field then development conquering use have the advantage. The questions being asked now are those which of course must be asked until their various cultures have evolved to the point where our philosophy is taken to account more than economics and the pioneering conduit spirit is outlined so well in Robert Neches willingness in the American line. The Wilbur Linde are not merely the visual, it is the sound, the smell, the taste the physical feel of an area. It is even more than that, it is the visceral feel of an area. It is an entire experience, because stalled which has no counterpart in our normal languages. It can not be measured using a quantifiable set of units to list the hard data catalogs or part of character, an area's character and perhaps worth the more visceral, the more abstract, the soft data, is fully half of the description of an area of nature or of a life. This is the realm of the arts and the humanities to communicate and in a different way measure the worth of a place, of a life of an experience. The science has parsed the whole into the pieces. The arts and the humanities do the opposite, both inspect and try to understand, predict and hopefully communicate. Both are needed in order to decide the worth of nature, to make a decision on a type of use of nature using only hard data without the use of soft data is it aside based on only partial information and as such likely to be erroneous. Is the desert experience as valuable, if the visual is kept but the overwhelming silence is lost, is a temporary rain forest is on inspiring if the undergrowth and the timber is thinned. Is it still the same experience with a sound same worth. Is our right to exist as we choose worth more than the rights of other species lifeforms, inanimate forms can you indeed put a price on love? For what is it or for that is what it may come down to love and compassion maybe a missing piece of the formula. I have a $20 bill. Can I have one from each gender? I'm almost done. I transferred that $20 bill to you and to you. You each now have $10? Simply two pieces of colored paper. The whole is greater than it made some of the parts, thank you. It's okay, you can keep the $20 and now it's tax deductible.\r\n\r\n- Looks like, right on the clock. They must be looking for going to another class. First of all, I would like to thank the Center of Excellence for Arts and Humanities for organizing this kind of program and I hope you keep on doing this kind of, keep on enhancing this kind of activity. It's good for all of us to understand at least one part of the puzzle nature. I'm an engineer and I think what I did, I prepared my presentation right according to the questions we were given. And so I thought I will give you what were questions posed to the panel. One of the questions was, the first one, constructive healthy use of non human nature. Well, I have to agree with my other colleagues I do not think there's any such thing which we call non human nature. Well, that's what I think unless we go to the Greenland Antarctica it's almost impossible for the humans to survive. The reason I say is humans are part of, we are all we are part of, one of the species on the planet and we are part of the ecosystem, so my hypothesis is we are part of the nature. We can go back to history, part of the discussion might be coming that we as humans might be encroaching to areas where we are spoiling the nature, water, air, soil but we can go to the history of the humanity or the planet and you will find several examples, will be about we have lost our civilizations and we don't know exactly what were the some of the reasons, but we know some that either there might be an epidemic of a disease or we lost part of the natural resources which could be water or our soil became saline because of irrigation or we started over digging soil or over cultivating and soil erosion came to that point that life could not sustain on that part of the planet. But let us take an example just for the sake of argument and that some of the wilderness forest areas are part of the non human nature. The question is what are the healthy uses of non-human nature for the humans? I don't think we can survive without forest either. And we all understand pretty well forest are the source of fuel, they provide timber, federal homes in many parts of the world without forest, we cannot cook even evening meals. And forest are rich resources of several medicine values plus house or home for millions of species plants and animals or both. But I think the argument is even that part of the non nature environment, we have to share equally if you argue equal opportunity for all on this planet. My definition for nature is soil, water and air because I'm an applied scientist and that's the area I work with. And I think I can justify when we say soil, water and air is part of, mostly planet is part of it. And another argument is sometime we might say, no we can go back to rivers and oceans. These are also some of the environmental part of the nature which are non-human but I think we are sharing and taking care of that part also. Other question, we were given economic consequences of human or non use of financial resources. It brings a dilemma how we treat natural resources. Some of my colleagues had a project in Mexico, and Mexico I think the hypothesis is, it's a God given gift and it should be free for all. Even if some of these small communities or some of the towns are trying to treat water and supplying clean water to the homes, homeowners will not pay the bills because they don't believe in it. So I think that is one part of the economics that being a water person, it is a renewable resource but if you look at the total availability of water, 97.2% of the water on the planet is saline which we cannot use beneficially as humans, of course, unless we want to use some of the sea food. The remaining 2.8% of the water which is available about 1.6% of that while 2.8% is kind of tapped in glaciers North and South pole. So only 0.8% less than 1% of the water, which flows in the rivers in the groundwater lakes is available for humanity, as well as for the wildlife which are part of the nature. So if you don't take care of that 0.8% of the water, we don't preserve the quality, we don't have equal distribution in terms of availability. I think we are having a risk, but why we are thinking we are having a risk as I give you an example, historically it has happened before. So we are passing through a period of correctness. We overload the system due to pollution and we have the knowledge, we have the capacity to correct it. So we are correcting it as it passes through. Other parts of the water availability, what we have done to our natural systems. We all know a Colorado River does not reach the ocean, Yellow River in China, it reaches the Ocean once every 12 years or 11 years is right up. There are examples of Aral Sea in central Asia, that two major rivers which are feeding the Aral Sea. They don't feed anymore and the water level in the ocean for Aral Sea has gone down by 70 feet in 30 years. So those are the some of the damages we might have cost but we also know how to correct those damages. So I think there are pluses and minuses which we can all understand. But again, that is part of the system we live in. Sometimes we hear the several headlines in newspapers that water supplies are finite, it is correct but there's few countries like Canada, Austria and Brazil. They will never run out of water unless something drastic happens. But again, those are just some of the examples I'm trying to give you. And a third question was spiritual value of non-human nature. There are several societies on the planet, they treat water differently, they worship water. India is one example. There are several like I give you example of Mexico, is a God given gift, but at the same time if you sit on the bank of river alone and look at the therapy, mental therapy, you are going to have. That's your connectivity with nature. So there are benefits of nature, but you got to find you don't have to go to forest. You can sit right next to Lake level and enjoy nature. Sometimes we feel like the nature is only where there are no humans, which I tend to disagree. What are the potential of, fourth question was unlimited potential of human uses of nature, I agree. Nature provides us tremendously untapped unlimited resource. What is air, water, soil, we hear that the world, the number of people on the planet are exploding, and that's true. If you look at it very negatively. Sometimes we hear that our planet will not be able to produce enough food to feed all these people, I tend to disagree. We as humans have capacity to feed even two to three times of the population we have right now, provided we know how to manage our natural resources. And finally the question was, how as a faculty member drive my research agenda on the campus? Well, these are the opportunities, when I'm working with the environment, soil, water, and air and if I look at negatively, these are getting contaminated and that drives my research agenda, that drives my teaching agenda, but I look more positively. These are the opportunities we have to follow and create for the future. So let us look at nature, if you look at millions of years of planet, and might have created correctness factor within past 50 years you might say our population is exploding. Our natural resources are getting contaminated. It's very small segment of the life cycle, but I can assure you, we may not be here but in next 50 years we are going to correct all these symptoms which we call damaging the nature. And finally, I'm going to say a nature is very powerful at the time, the technology is very powerful and we as one of the species on the planet are very powerful. So we got to learn how to live with nature but we are part of nature, thank you.\r\n\r\n- All right.\r\n\r\n- I'll get this.\r\n\r\n- I wanna thank Cheryl for inviting me to this and I wanna warn you that you're gonna have to probably throw something at me because I'm not gonna be able to really see you. It worked, I'm a historian and one thing I've learned over time is that early on in my graduate career, somebody showed me a quote. I cannot remember who said it anymore but thinking historically is an unnatural act. And it's something that comes back to me on a daily basis especially when I listened to these conversations. For me the most important things are context and contingency. Unlike a lot of my colleagues at this university or any university, I think about the specificity and uniqueness of moments, not the transcendent. I wanna understand how any given moment in any lived life separates itself from others how life ends up being a series of discrete experiences as well as a larger patterns. As a result, I spent a lot of time asking very basic journalistic questions like who, what, when, where, why. As I listened to Scott discuss on environmental dilemma I was struck again by the way in which the suburban experience has been globalized as our environmental dilemma. And it's not that I disagree with many of his critiques but what I wanna do is point out the specificity of experience. As the critique has been laid out not only by Scott, but by many, many environmentalists over the last several decades. In essence, the critique ends up being that work closes us off from nature in play opens it up. Play though I would argue opens up a much more constrained sort of experience with nature. And there are ways in which I'll try to explain this later. But one of the things I'm also struck by is that the environmental experiences are much broader than what we've been talking about here. And I wanna take you through some of the things that I see in my daily life. There's a guy here, I come to work early in the morning and there's a guy who shows up here about six o'clock every morning riding on a bicycle to deliver the newspaper, every morning, every morning, think about that. The middle of winter, this is a guy who's doing it, he's doing a Herculean job out here. And every morning is riding his bike to deliver these things. He has an unmediated experience with nature that I would dearly love to avoid the rest of my life. I see students who rushed out to their cars in the middle of winter, start their car who get an experience with nature that I am glad not to have because my car is parked in a garage that walls it off. I think about the Latinos who work in the meat packing plants around the state who have an an unmediated experience with nature that I desperately hope my daughter and everybody else never gets. I think about Colville Indians in Eastern Washington who are still hoping to get running water to some of their places who have an unmediated experience with nature, they never want to have. The point is that sometimes when we talk about our experiences in nature and the things we've yearned for, we talk about wilderness and wildlife of wools and old growth forest, the salmon and dam streams. But there are other people who talk about forms of wildlife, other forms of environmental problems that have to do with rats and cockroaches and things that we measure in parts per million and parts per billion. Another way in which I think about this is the Aboriginal groups. Oftentimes Aboriginal groups stand for a sort of pristine and idealized relationship to nature. As a historian I know that there are problems with this. Dating not only from the Holocene extinctions but even to places like the Hohokam irrigation canal it's salinization destroyed a population before Europeans ever arrived here. Buffalo jump were Plains Indians were destroying far more Buffalo than they could ever consume. And now my Indians that I write about time and again having to do with salmon. There are people who take extraordinary measures to venerate the fish at certain moments in the year. And then when the ceremonial period was over they were literally throwing over both shoulders because they needed to catch a lot of fish before the winter arrived. Sometimes people venerate nature, sometimes the mystical parts of nature move forward but then the context shifts and a different relationship emerges. Humans have complicated relationships with nature. When we tell those stories we ended up either opening up or closing off those experiences. When I listened to Scott he talks about our environmental experiences and our environmental values. And I desperately wanna ask who's, when, where, why those seem to me the critical issues now is in throughout history. When I read Terry Tempest Williams or Barry Lopez or Wendell Berry, I see one set of stories emerged forward. I see people who are extremely eloquent in speaking for particular environmental values. When I read reports by ecologists about aspect and situatedness by fisheries, biologists about relationships between killer whales and otters or really boring stuff like halibut odorless, geographers talking about the constructiveness of space. Atmospheric scientists talking about the Southern oscillation or El Nino. I see people who were speaking and describing nature but in the same time, I also see them oftentimes telling about their environmental experiences with these things. They relate to them not only by riding on boats and fishing and what have you but they also relate to them through data. There's a tendency to use the quantification of life and the quantification of narrative structures as a way of diminishing what we understand. But in sense we cannot talk about something like you'll mean you outside of a quantification. There's no way to perceive it outside of instruments. And all these ways that I think that the world is a little bit more complicated. That the way we tell stories ends up being far more complicated than we want. When I go home to the coast of Oregon and I listened to my buddies who were fishers and loggers and dairy farmers. And they tell me stories about their life in trucks and on boats and in bars, they speak about nature in a very, very different way from Terry Tempest Williams but it's no less passionate. And in some ways it's no less articulate. It just operates in a different world. For all these reasons I wanna step back and remind you that environmental research is interdisciplinary but so is environmental activism. That we need to understand the world from a variety of different points. And one of the other things we need to do is start listening to a broader set of stories. And when are problems that comes from this though is because our interests are so different, because our concerns have so different. They're simply telling stories may not bind us in any easy way. We may not find that we ended up at the same places. The hour in our environmental problems in our environmental values begins to break down. The environmental conversations though they matter and they're worth talking about, they're worth telling stories, the stories can open or close. Part of how that operates though is based on the context whether we're telling them to each other as a bunch of academic geeks, sitting at a dinner, if we're in a policy debate, fighting over finite resources or if we're in a courtroom which will constrain what we can say and what we can use as evidence in very different ways. The participants also matter. As I said, it's one thing for a group of people to get together who all agree in environmental issues. Most of whom agreed that things are not going right. It's a very different thing to move even from that though, to saying what we can do, how we should do it, which we should take care of first. And all these ways, things become more, more complicated. The who, the what, the where, the why matter. And they matter now as they have mattered through history because they have shaped our experiences in radically different ways sometimes. Context and contingency need to be kept focusing, thank you.\r\n\r\n- What is nature worth? Number six. How many of you are experiencing what we might consider mental fatigue? The end of a log Bay. I'm struck as we're thinking about mental, as I'm thinking about mental fatigue, I'm looking at you a little fatigued, I'm reminded of this very interesting research by the Kaplans' Rachel and Stephen Kaplan psychologists who have determined that if you guys go outside and experience what they call the nearby nature, yards, grass, shrubs, trees maybe a forest, but doesn't have to be forest. It could just be a tree strip, outside your apartment building. If you go out and experience that 20 minutes, half hour and come back in, you will perform better on tests of creativity, than if you did a whole bunch of other things for that half hour. Your mental juices will be restored and creativity, vitality, your stress levels will go down, your blood chemistry will change. What is nature worth? Now I hope nobody has to go have gallbladder surgery tomorrow. But if you did, the research has shown that if we take half of the gallbladder surgery people and we give them a window with a tree and the other half with a window with a brick wall, those who have a tree will need less pain medication, will go home sooner, will have fewer complications and will experience less mental distress, call the nurse less while they're in the hospital. What is nature worth? It seems to me that we need to know more about this. And I'm just fascinated by this research coming out of medical, public health areas and also psychology. And I came to my interest in these, what are to me as a social scientist relatively invisible dimensions of our relationship to the natural world. Physical and mental impacts that I didn't know anything about and yet when I tell them to you, you all sort of nod, you know, it's not really all that surprising. We know that we feel restored after walking the woods but we don't really know a lot about that. And I think that's something we need to look into. And I came to that passionate fascination about this as a result of watching Emory faculty. Now I work in a university that's in the City of Atlanta, poster child for sprawl, and we have begun to take more seriously our obligations to move toward a more sustainable world. And one of the things we have done is we've borrowed the format of a curriculum development project from Northern Arizona university. And I began to watch faculty that I know well I've been there for a long time. I've seen a lot of different kinds of programs come and go. For two days, we asked faculty to give up the summer two days to be in a workshop, 20 faculty, about five facilitators. And at the end of that time, we asked them for feedback and they said, it's very, very positive things. They said things like, this was the best faculty development activity I've participated in at Emory, this is the best workshop at Emory in my 14 years, it was an intellectual feat, I learned a ton. Everything we did was a fork to me. This is not the cynical faculty that I know, these are not the board, it doesn't matter, anyway. This is not the fac that I'm used to. So I began to get really curious about that. And I think this is really the heart of anthropology. We experience daily life. We experience what's going on in the lives of the people that we study and we notice things because we're there and noticing these people are more excited. So a year after the first group had completed what we now call the Piedmont project, I started interviewing them to find out what was it that mattered to you so much. And many of the things that the panel has said here tonight or what I hear from the people that I talked to. First of all, what's so powerful about this experience is that it builds community. It allows a very, very diverse group of faculty, law, business theology, public health, French, German, philosophy anthropology, sociology, chemistry, biology, huge range of fields to come together and talk about teaching which is something we don't talk about all that much, we do it all the time but we often don't talk with each other about it and then to experience nature. We had series of lectures in which we learned about sprawl and we learned about the Urban Heat Island and we learned how that kills people. And we learned about air quality and we learned how that also kills people sooner than they would otherwise die. And we learned about what is a watershed and what is the Piedmont and what are the native species for our area. And then at lunch, one of the ecologists takes us out in a forest right beside the building where we are having this meeting and we experience nature and we actually get refreshed and restored and become more creative. And then the second day we go down to a Creek that's right below the building, and we walk around the Creek and we see the pollution in the water and the erosion of the street of banks and we talk about macro invertebrates and we have some learning about water quality and water issues in Atlanta. And the second thing that people told me in addition to building community which they hunger for, is that it grounds them in place. It gives them experience of Atlanta that they didn't have. And here's some quotes, it was eye opening for me. I never took ecology, said one natural scientist. And to sit down and hear from experts was a wonderful thing. The nature walks, I really, I remember really enjoying that telling me what the trees here are called. I knew nothing about the South when I came here, this was one of the best things for me, learning about the trees. And it was really interesting for me personally, is that I don't really wanna know the names of trees sometimes, I find myself at times line to say this ecology none of that, I don't drown them in the names, but then I heard this person say, the most fun memorable part for me was going on the hike, learning to identify native plants. It really did change the way I think. Down toward the village now I noticed the row of Magnolias and I think there is a planted rope, we have our own species of native Magnolia Grandiflora that we saw in our walk-in Han was. I think that part of why the connection to place and building community is so powerful is that it does what Scott said, it speaks to our emotions. And I think the people who come together concerned about sustainability and trying to find ways in their own courses to help move that forward are acting on their deepest values. And they love finding other people. This one guy says, the excitement of having all those people in all those disciplines interested in environmental issues that was a huge thing for me. Said another faculty member, very quickly I felt I belonged with them and they with me even though it wasn't mentioned much, we had a kind of a course, we all cared really passionately about something and I enjoy being a part of that movement. If Margaret Mead is right and transformative change pretty much only comes about through the committed activities of small groups of people. How do we nurture small groups of people matters? And this activity tonight is a really good example. The piedmont project at Emory is another way that we're trying to nurture small groups of people that can become more educated and knowledgeable and work together. And one institution at a time, one University at a time, we may be able to move toward a different value of nature, thank you.\r\n\r\n- Very briefly Cheryl has asked about if I would give a brief response to the other panelists and then open things up for questions and after already exceeding my timeline I don't want to speak too much longer, I'm sorry about that. But let me just say a few things about part of what I believe in from these other presentations. First of all, I'm just fascinated by the overlappings and distinctions between the ways in which we all view the world that I wish actually we had begun each of our presentations kind of in the manner that Jay did where he defined himself as a Historian and this is is how I think of history and how I view the world. I would be intrigued to hear each person on the panel and people representing other disciplines speak in that manner, it's really fascinating to me. It was very helpful for me to hear Fred asking some of these big questions that he does so well and then bringing them into the more specific context of new ways of approaching agriculture and one of the things that I wrote down in my notes, that I'm gonna continue to reflect upon is this issue of how the modification of the environment affects the whole of nature. What does it mean for us to modify given that humans like other organisms will modify their immediate environment and have implications for the planet? What exactly is the influence of these changes upon the whole of the world? What are the vast sets of interconnections that we should keep in mind? And as I mentioned at our dinner conversation, this issue has been explored in a very interesting way in an essay by Wendell Berry called \"Getting Along with Nature\" from his book from the late eighties, home economics. And I really appreciated many aspects of Ramesh's very obedient response to the original questions as he systematically worked through them but I was particularly intrigued by the discussion of water and the information about available, usable water. And just we think of the planet, this being the planet of water with vast available water when actually from a technical engineering perspective at the very minute fraction of the planet's water is really present and available for human use, for the sustaining I think not only of human life, but of all life forms on this planet and that for me was fascinating and sober statistic. I was fascinated by Steve's very direct reflection on the meaning of the word worth and you know his effort to explain what worth means and then display to us how arbitrary worth or value actually is, the very graphic impressive presentation. It reminded me actually ever really intriguing essay called money by the Australian SAS, William Lines, L-I-N-E-S from his 2001 book called \"Open Air\" William Lines is a very cantankerous, provocative SAS and the essay money is one of the main Australian nature writers, money talks about the problems that occur when we use monetary value as a way of measuring and determining the merits or importance of nature and suggest that as soon as we enter into a monetary conversation about nature we are making certain compromises about a phenomenon that can not, he argues that I readily be construed as economic phenomenon. And then I, you know, I felt very admonished and challenged by Jay's interesting comments about the problem with using a universal pronouns like our society and, you know, our language the implications of our culture and take it to heart the suggestions that contingency and context are extremely important and find myself pondering how to do that as a literary scholar, where so many of the authors I've worked with do speak in these universal pronouns, attempting to function as wisdom speakers or sages articulating perspectives for vast numbers of people who may not readily communicate their points of view. And I think, you know, for myself it's important for me to keep track of the multiplicity of voices that attempt in careful literary or other artistic ways to synthesize not only their own experience but other people's experiences within their communities. But I still feel admonished to try to think about the kinds of perspectives and voices that may come from people who are non-artists, non-academics, non-writers and how these work their way into the environmental discussions, and I also found myself thinking of the famous essay by Jay's colleague and mentor Richard White, are you an environmentalist or do you work for a living, that distinguishes between some of us who may be ivory tower and environmentalist and those people who actually work in the context of nature and how different their perspectives might be. And then I felt reassured by Peggy's comments about environmental psychology and Steven and Rachel Kaplan whose work I've often studied and used in my own discussions of literature about how kind of reaffirming and nourishing our encounters with nature it might be. And I wonder whether even those people who may work in very harsh conditions and direct exposure to the more difficult aspects of nature might also themselves recreate a nature or experience. I mean, what if the meat packing plant worker happened to have gallbladder surgery, would that person recover more laterally in a room with a window looking out on a tree rather than a wall? You know, I think there may be some possibility of asking universal or making universal claims even as we try to establish caveats and limits to these universal claims that we make. Anyway, just a quick run through of a few of the many notes that I took listening to these speakers. And I wonder if the rest of you might have comments or questions you'd like to offer, please use the microphone.\r\n\r\n- My questions address Ramesh, you mentioned Aral Sea has lost about 70 feet of its height due to the fact that the two rivers that ran into it and I'm guessing you're referring to Amu and Syr Darya are no longer pouring Gator affluent into the sea beside evaporation and desiccation resulting from it. At the time of Alexander the Great, Amu Darya poured into the Caspian knock into the auto. And in fact, Alexander traveled a great distance into the central Asia towards India true to think, over the history that course of the river has changed a couple of times till its present situation that Khrushchev change it for agriculture growing cotton and the rest of the thing and now there's just nothing of it. Now human, not human but living things usually have a range and somewhat limited range of it conditions under which they can live. If you change it substantially they diminish. Now Aral Sea having lost that much water volumetrically. The salinity of the water was substantially changed. What has that done today remaining creatures there have they suffered substantially? And my second question is, has anybody studied that you know of, what is happening to the salinity of the oceans as a whole, not the ROC but altogether?\r\n\r\n- It seems like you are very knowledgeable of that part of the world. I had a USAID project for four years. So that is how I learned from that experience. The first question is what has happened to the serendipity of the Aral Sea? I think I give you one example because when I heard that 70 feet of the ocean water has just disappeared, evaporated then feed in, the volume of the water shrank. So that ultimately increased the synergy level to two to three times more. Now what they did to the sea community, the fishing industry was totally dumped. There's absolutely no fishing industry back in the Aral Sea, lots of other water species that disappeared, the air quality because there were plenty of salt to see I think the cost line great out by almost four mines. So that salt became part of the air when the vendor's blind, it's a pretty dry area. So that was causing a impact on the human health. The water quality which was in that region also was affecting the humans. Now, your second question is the broader aspects of the salinity level in the ocean. We can look at Gulf of Mexico, Atlantic Indian ocean. I don't think that has affected to that extent, I would say there's absolutely low, I want to use the word absolutely, but not a change of that though. Now I don't see if I was a landlocked sea water body, now these are other water bodies that connected with it.\r\n\r\n- I was surprised to learn that so-called nature literature is rather scarce and it's only coming into its own now, I also reflected on the absence of a counterpart landscape in three dimensional arms. There isn't a figure out the sculpture that is sculptural equivalent of landscape or a seascape. Arts tend to develop in parallel. Why hasn't or a mental literature appeared in flourish, let's say in some of the century Holland where the art the landscape was very widespread and much praise, why did it not parallel the growth of impression is that? In Europe in the second half of 19th century. When you look at the Eastern art, if you look at the Chinese painting, then it's mostly landscapes and a tender, philosophical, reflective view of living and inanimate nature. Now how about the Eastern religions, have Chinese developed fiction and poetry center around nature commensurate with their interest into the marriage or visual arts?\r\n\r\n- Thanks a quite fascinating question. I don't know enough about either Dutch or Chinese literature to be able to answer authoritatively but I believe actually much of the European literature associated with the natural world is actually related to German romanticism. And so I believe there's a central European literature that you know, that does explore the, at least the visual experience of nature. I don't know that that kind of \"ecological literature\" exists from the Renaissance era or the romantic era in central Europe, but at least nature as landscape is explored in various German authors, you know, dating back several centuries. I don't know that much about Chinese language literature, but in Japan there's a very long literature associated with nature. When I taught at the university of Tokyo in the early nineties and traveling around lecturing usually about American environmental writing. I would always try to ferret out information about the Japanese literature of nature. And people would usually say, we have no such tradition, we don't have nature writing per se. So I'd say, do you have any literature about walking, about farming, about birds, about fishing and it's saying, well, of course we have literature about whaling, you know, they had very specific categories entire vast categories of literature about birdwatching or about hiking, or, you know experience of trees or associated with Shinto religion. So it wasn't categorized necessarily as landscape literature or, you know, nature writing but certainly there was a vast body of literature. Let me recommend a few books. There's one called \"Encompassing Nature\" edited by Robert Torrance and comparative literature scholar, a huge book, and it covers a vast span of time and many different countries in many parts of the world. And then another book called \"The Literature of Nature\" an international source book edited by Patrick Murphy which includes a scholarly overviews of literatures from many parts of the world. So these are two of the best introductions to international writing about nature that I know of.\r\n\r\n- Why isn't there a sculptural, I call him seascape paint?\r\n\r\n- There's a sculptural equivalent to, who's the fellow who's coming? And who does some just incredible things dealing with nature escapes if you wanna put them that way, but they're sculptural, they're sculpture on a very active as well, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Couple of writers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43491/file/116456#t=0.0,2850.024"}]}]}]}