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your referee for the evening. One of the truly valuable assets of this university is its lectures committee, an extremely hardworking group of people who, with generous financing from the government of the student body has greatly enriched and enhanced the learning experience of us all young and old. I can say that with complete impunity having never been a member of the committee and having no desire to be. In the past year alone, for example, it has brought just to name a few to this campus, Iev Stone, Anthony Lewis the great economist, Paul Sweezy, William Kunsler and a host of distinguished scientists, as well as its sponsorship of a World Affairs Institute and the National Affairs Institute and a first rate Shakespeare symposium to be held next week. Later this year, it will help sponsor an annual law day observance which this year we'll have Robert C. Weaver and a discussion of Brown vs. the board of education, a quarter of a century later. One of the shortcomings of the university, among both faculty and student body is that they avail themselves so little of these truly valuable assets. These remarks are made as a plea by an old teacher that students make greater use of this lecture series, which if you'll give it a try, can often be more exciting than the classroom. The committee has never backed off from difficult subjects or people either. And certainly tonight is no exception. Our guest this evening is Mr. Mark Lane, who with Mr. Charles Gary was one of two attorneys for Reverend James Jones present at the bizarre set of tragedies at port Kaituma, Georgetown, and Jonestown Guyana on November 18th and 19th, which resulted in the murder of Congressman Leo Ryan, and five of his companions four deaths in Georgetown and the mass suicide of over 900 members of the People's Temple in Jonestown. Mr. Lane is here to talk those events. Mr. Lane is a member of the bar of the second judicial district or judicial department of New York City being a graduate of the Brooklyn college of law. After service in the U S army and his graduation from law school, he practiced law in New York City for 10 years. He founded the Mid Harlem Community Parish narcotics Clinic in 1953 and the East Harlem Reform Democratic Club in 1959. From 1960 to 1962, he served as a member of the New York state assembly in Albany during which time he was arrested in the South for civil rights demonstrations including two arrests with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. During the Vietnam war, he founded the Covered Wagon of Mountain Home, Idaho, a counseling service for conscientious objectors. He organized the wounded knee legal defense offense committee while defending Dennis Banks to a victory in an important case involving prosecutorial misconduct. Mr. Lane has written seven books. Among them, the best seller \"Rush To Judgment\" which questioned the procedures and findings of the Warren commission, investigating the assassination of president John F. Kennedy, and the most recent of which is codenamed Zorro coauthored with Dick Gregory about the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. He founded the Citizens Commission Of Inquiry which lobbied for the creation of a congressional select committee on assassinations at which as you know, last year, he appeared as counsel for James Earl Ray. The person introducing Mr. Lane, as well as the committee on lectures is not unmindful of the strong allegations against Mr. Lane, his activities and his writing by members of his own profession and by reputable authorities in assorted magazines and newspapers. These are matters which he can handle for himself in more appropriate settings than this hall. Although he has agreed to answer questions at the end. This is a great institution of openness and light. And Mr. Lane is here at the invitation of a major committee of that institution. One week after Jonestown, that redoubtable lover of San Francisco Herb Cain of the San Francisco Chronicle wrote about the rush to discuss and analyze the meeting of those events. And he presented the only questions which can give real significance to the appearance of any speaker on the subject. Cain wrote all manner of cults and cultists were discussed in print and during the inevitable talk shows, but from the Reverend Moon to Esalin, from communism to fascism and back again, nothing, and nobody seems to provide a final clue to the mystery of the Reverend James Jones, his almost religious and definitely mystical power, it's evil, well concealed must somehow be construed as a clue to the mystery that is the 1970s, but the meaning remains hidden by masks of personal motives, distant exotic regions, and finally death. It is to these mysteries that Mr. Lane has been asked to address himself here this evening Mr. Mark Lane. .\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I'm not quite sure about the implication in part of the gentleman's introduction to me but at the conclusion of my remarks, I will be happy to take any questions that any of you may have on any question whatsoever. Just feel free when I conclude to ask me about any of the disinformation which has been published in the news media through handouts by the intelligence organizations, to the national media and I'll be happy to discuss it with you in great detail. The information given to the American people by the national news media, and even in the introduction this evening, and by Herb Cain referred to in the introduction that 900 people, no doubt, mesmerized no doubt robots followed the pied Piper for no reason that any normal person can understand, thousands of miles away from the place of their birth into Jonestown Guyana, for reasons beyond our comprehension. And then at the word of the leader all agreed to commit suicide, certainly does paint a bizarre picture, the picture which has been presented to us by the national news media. And if that were all true none of it is, if that were all true, then it would certainly be difficult for us to identify with those who left home for reasons which are beyond our comprehension and who committed suicide when the leader said to do so. At the law, there is a an understanding that when you talk to the jury and the concept of the reasonable man, they used to say I hope now this same reasonable person in the courts but when the concept of what the courts over the years have referred to as the reasonable man comes up each juror thinks reasonable man, that's me. What would I have done in those circumstances? None of us can identify with those who when told by Jim Jones to commit suicide, do it just like that. It is so bizarre. It is beyond our comprehension. And thus the national news media publishing intelligence handouts from the United States, government and little else about Jonestown has divided us from 900 of our sisters and brothers who traveled from these shores, most, almost all of them over 80% of whom were black, almost 90% of whom were women who left these shores in search of the realization of a dream, which they had concluded many of them in the long, long lives, in the ghettos of Fillmore and the ghettos of Watts was not realizable for them in the country, in which they were born. That is not such a difficult concept. Mr. Cain is wrong. It is not all that mysterious to understand why people living 50, 60, 70 years, 80 years, 90 years some of them in the ghettos of the large cities of this country treated as second class citizens, denied a decent education, seeing their children denied a decent education, denied decent medical care would listen to someone who would say we can build our own community. We can build our own schools. We can build our own hospitals and our own medical systems to care for all of us. Their dream turned into a nightmare. And by November, November 18th of last year, almost all of them perished, but the reasons that they fled from these shores should not be beyond us because there remained millions of people in this country, the people to whom Dr. King addressed himself in the last months of his life in a plea for economic justice, to change the economic structure of this society. So that a third of the nation would not go to sleep hungry. So that high school graduates in Watson Fillmore would not be functionally illiterate even though they had their certificate indicating they had graduated from high school. The reason that they left here are clear, there's no mystery about them and the manner in which they died is also susceptible to proof. If they all committed suicide, we cannot identify with them. None of us here believes, none of us believes that we would have done that. And therefore we are talking about humanoids or robots. If as the national news media says they committed suicide, what does the United States government know, what does the news media relying upon government handouts about what took place there, know about what took place there? How curious was the United States government to discover what happened there? The first message from the United States state department to the government of Guyana after learning that 900 Americans had died there was dig a big trench and dump all of their bodies in there. How curious our government was no autopsy, no investigation. The United States state department suggested what would have been literally a most grisly coverup of the evidence in the case, and Guyana said no, we are offended by your suggestion. These were your citizens. Take the bodies home and bury them where their relatives can visit them, can visit the cemeteries. And only because the Guyanese insisted was that huge trench directed by the state department not dug for the bodies there. The bodies were brought back to this country leading forensic pathologists in America, among them, Dr. Cyril Wecht of Pittsburgh former president of the American society for domestic pathologists and others demanded that autopsies be conducted on the bodies so that we would know what took place, how they died perhaps secure some clues as to how they died. All of those offers were rejected by the United States government and the bodies were sent to an air force base. In Dover, Delaware were only high ranking military physicians were permitted to examine the bodies, just as only high ranking military physicians were permitted to conduct the autopsy on president Kennedy's body some 15 years before almost to the day, the value of that military autopsy at the Bethesda Naval hospital in 1963 has been assessed by a committee of experts since that time, an autopsy which told us nothing because high ranking physicians under the control of higher ranking officers who were not even physicians covered up the evidence in their very autopsy about the death of president Kennedy. That is the testimony now and that terrible record. And again, now we had a similar occurrence in Jonestown with the victims being brought back, 913, bodies, do you know how many autopsies were conducted? Two months later, seven autopsies. That's all, only seven. The United States government waited so long to recover the bodies from the floor of that jungle that rainforest in tropical Guyana that many of the bodies began to explode before they were picked up, to disintegrate some of them. So that even today hundreds of the bodies cannot be identified because the government waited so long. And it is this government which in its press releases, it's handouts to the news media has assured us that there was a mass suicide there. I think it's more important to look at the evidence rather than the speculation of the United States government about how the people died there, there was a medical examiner, one who examined the bodies in place, the medical examiner of Guyana and in his testimony before a court of competent jurisdiction in Georgetown, he testified that of the 900 who died, over 700 had been murdered. And of that there was no question based upon his own investigation. There was one American investigator, louis Gurvich whose young daughter, a law student Jan Gurvich died in Jonestown who went actually into Georgetown from Georgetown over the objection of the American military presence, which was there. But with the support of the police commission of Guyana was able to examine the bodies in place an experienced private investigator licensed by the state of Louisiana. A man who for a quarter of a century has been a private investigator who heads the staff of some 300 in Louisiana. And it was his conclusion in investigating the bodies in place on the scene that the majority had been murdered. In addition to that, there's the eye witness testimony of just two, two men who were present when the massacre began and their testimony supports the conclusion that many many people were murdered. Stanley Clayton of Chicago, for example, testified before a grand jury federal grand jury in San Francisco that he was there when the murders began. And when Jim Jones began to talk about the need for everyone to die, and people were gathered together in this pavilion, surrounded by a perimeter of men, armed with semiautomatic weapons pointed in, at the crowd and others with crossbows pointed at the crowd that when he talked about the need to die, people protested, Christine Miller stood up and objected said you have no right to kill us. We were talking about going to the Soviet union and he ordered that she be silenced, 20 to 30 armed guards surrounded her when she would not be silent, she was held down and poison was injected into her arm. The New York times calls that suicide, so does CBS. Children, according to these two witnesses Odell Rhodes, Stanley Clayton, the only two eye witnesses who actually saw the murders who came out, survived came out and talked about it. Children were ripped from their parents' arms. The parents were held, protesting, screaming. The children were screaming. And when the children were taken away, poison was injected into their mouths. That's the eyewitness testimony, the only two eye witnesses and the only two experts and what they have to say tends to corroborate what each of them says. And yet the news media tells us there was a mass suicide. If it was not a suicide and it was not then it's perhaps easier for us to begin to identify with those who died there and examine the reasons for their death. The news media has painted a picture in which I have been not only a dear friend of Jim Jones, a lifelong associate, the attorney for the People's Temple but probably the founding Bishop of the religion. In September of last year, two months before the massacre, I had never heard of Jim Jones, People's Temple or Jonestown, Guyana, never heard of them. That occasion, I was invited to do what I'm doing here this evening, to go to Jonestown and to present a talk on the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. And I went there and when I arrived there, I was I met Jim Jones for the first time. And that was two months almost to the day before he and so many others died. And Jim Jones was trembling. He told me there was a governmental plan to destroy him and to destroy Jonestown. And as we look back now, we see what led him to that conclusion and why he was so frightened. And we'll go into those details in just a bit. But what he did tell me is that he was terrified that there would be some provocation, a governmental provocation to prevent them from taking what seemed to be to them, the only logical step available to them in the desperate situation in which they found themselves, what was that situation? They'd gone to Jonestown and had heroically cleared out 3000 acres of a previously unexplored jungle almost by hand with the hope that with all of the sun and all the rain, this was a tropical area in the middle of a rain forest that they could grow anything that could sustain life there. And the vast majority of the people who went there were not young people. Most of them were so old, they were incapable of the work that was required in Jonestown to sustain life. And some of them were very small children leaving a minority of able-bodied people, teenagers to their late fifties. And they did the basic hard work. And they worked many long hours to try to sustain the society, which was becoming an agricultural society there. But they failed. They failed because no matter how hard they worked, the earth was not fertile and they could not produce what was required for life. They could grow banana trees, some cassava plants but very little beside that. And so the burden fell upon Jim Jones to provide a means of survival, food, medicine. And it costs him from the coffers which he had developed over the years approximately $500,000 a year to keep that project going. And when that was, they would import rice and that kept it going at a bare minimum level of subsistence. They brought in rice from Georgetown 25 hours away by steamer through a jungle stream Which meant that on many days, people ate rice three times a day. Medicine was required because there were a lot of elderly people with a lot of serious problems. And he realized that the project was a dead end. There was no way it could survive. It had failed as an agricultural project basically because they were not familiar with the problems that they would encounter. They brought in cattle thought that beef would be certainly raising cattle there would be one way for survival. It was very hard even to have grass grow under the because the conditions, when it rained, it rained it washed away the seeds. It was torrential downpours, and they try, they terraced, they did everything, and finally, they grew grass. They brought cattle in, the cattle grazed on the grass but there were tropical parasites in the grass and the cattle died. They brought in pigs, and at night, vampire bats flew into the piggery and ate the nipples off of the nursing sowss. They brought in chickens, but found that it was too expensive to bring in food for the chickens because there was nothing which they could raise there to feed the chickens with. In every respect, it was an agricultural fiasco and disaster, and they could not survive. Knowing that, last year Jones asked his aid Teri Buford to send a letter to the relevant intelligence organizations of the United States, which said, in essence, we have failed. Now Jim Jones had proclaimed his area his organization to be a communist organization make no mistake about that. He said that we are living as Marxists here in Jonestown. He was very critical of American foreign policy taking what he considered to be a Marxist line and analyzing American foreign policy. They had abolished the use of money in Jonestown. If you needed a medical examination, you just went to the doctor. If you needed soap, you went to someone who made soap. You needed clothes, and you went to the elderly people to sew clothing, no money was ever exchanged. People who could work, work, people who could not did not. And those who required clothing, shelter, food whatever it was made available by the community. Now, Jim Jones thought that this was a sophisticated Marxist community which had been developed there, I can tell you that in my one philosophical discussion with Mr. Jones, back in September of last year, I concluded that he would have had great difficulty distinguishing between the writings of Karl Marx and Groucho Marx. But he nevertheless did proclaim himself to be a Marxist who had developed a Marxist society, said he was at one with the communist world. He was frightened there for about returning back to the United States. And he said, this said to bring a thousand people back, who've lived for a year as communists and been critical of American foreign policy, to bring them back to America without some guarantees by the intelligence organizations may be to subject them to terrible harassment. He thought of another organization which proclaimed itself to be a Marxist-Leninist organization, the Black Panther party and the, not just the harassment of that organization but the murder of its leaders in Chicago and other cities by conspiracies of the federal police organizations and local police organizations. And he was deeply concerned that similar things would happen happen to the members of the People's Temple, where they return to California. And so a letter letters would dispatch director of the FBI director of the CIA, the president of United States, state department saying we failed, we'd like to come home, promise us there will be no harassment and we'll return. And Jim Jones will pull an Eldridge Cleaver was the phrase in the letter, he'll go on a lecture tour for the state department. He will say, communism does not work. We tried it, and it doesn't work. It's not the right time for it. America is the greatest country in the world. No one should ever leave home, whatever you want, we will say it, let us come home. Promise us there'll be no harassment of people from the community. There was never a response in the many, many months that passed from any of the intelligence organizations or from the state department. Jones felt that the failure to receive response was in fact a response. He could no longer stay in Guyana. It was a dead ended project. People were unhappy. Food was terrible. People were becoming ill because of lack of sufficient vitamins. And so he looked around and thought that there was another place perhaps he might go had. He sent a delegation to the Soviet embassy in Georgetown and asked if they would agree to allow the thousand Americans to immigrate to the Soviet Union, not as a People's Temple. He understood that the structure of the Soviet union was not sufficiently flexible to allow a cult to exist somewhere in the middle of it. But can we break up stay together and family groups and groups of friends and live in different cities and undertake jobs, people had learned skills in Jonestown. Metalworkers and woodworkers and others. Can we become part of the Soviet society? And the Russians of course were intrigued. Of course, the ambassador to Guyana from the Soviet union had no authority to respond directly to the question except to say that we will forward the information to Moscow. But of course they had to be intrigued. President Carter talks about human rights as this being the one country, which guarantees it to all of its citizens, welcoming the Katz family and others from the Soviet union, making much ado about the Sharansky family in the Soviet union, just think of a thousand Americans, 80% of whom were black traveled to the Soviet union saying we could not find human rights in our own country in the United States. And we're exploring the possibility of securing them in the Soviet union. Can you think of the propaganda nightmare for the United States government? Not just the first day when they landed, but six months later and the black woman who became an expert metal worker, machine worker who I met in Jonestown it was taught by an elderly white man who retired from a union years before who could say with all sincerity if she arrived in Moscow if she was given a job there as a machine worker, I could never achieve this position in the United States. First of all, I'm black. Secondly, I'm a woman. And thirdly, my father was not a member of the union. So how could I ever became become a machine worker in the city where I was born but here she was working at a machine in the Soviet union. You can see ongoing stories for a long, long time. First anniversary, how the thousand Americans doing there, this was a propaganda nightmare. And Jones was aware of that, felt that the United States would try to do something to prevent that from taking place from that great immigration. Well, the response came from the Soviet embassy in Georgetown we're interested, send another delegation. So another delegation went to the Soviet embassy in Georgetown, and the matter was explored even more deeply. And then an invitation was passed out. We'd like you to send the first wave to Moscow, 50 people, to Moscow, to make contacts in the Soviet union to explore the matter further of everyone moving there. And the day set the first days of December of last year, of course the visit never took place because almost everyone in Jonestown died during the middle of November of last year. But that was the plan. And when during the first days of November, Jim Jones received a message from Congressman Leo Ryan of San Mateo, California that he was going to head a congressional investigation into Jonestown, Jones panicked. He panicked and he felt this was the effort of the United States government to provoke some kind of response to prevent that trip to the Soviet union to prevent what he saw as their salvation, Jones was ill at that time ill, ill and on a very heavy medication. And when I was there in September he had asked me to do one thing, to bring a freedom of information action under that newly amended act so that they could have some understanding about what the government was doing, whether or not they had been infiltrated. Someone had come on the very day before I met him for the first time in September through the American embassy, Joe Mazer private investigator, California said he worked with Interpol was given the assignment by the American embassy to count the passports in there, he said, and when he went up to Jim Jones that day he said the central intelligence agency has infiltrated your organization. They are here in Jonestown. CIA is here and Jones was driven besides himself with panic. And he said, who are they, and Mr Mason said, I cannot tell you who they are. He said I can tell you something else, you remember at the time a few months ago when shots were fired in here from the perimeter. And Jones said, yes he said that was an assassination attempt at you. And it was directed by people in American intelligence. Now, whether or not it is true that there was an effort directed at Jones by American intelligence, I do not know, whether or not it is true that the central intelligence agency had infiltrated Jonestown, I do not know, but there was someone coming through the auspices of the American embassy giving that information to Jim Jones and whether it was true or not, It drove Jones in his fragile state of mind and his poor health closer to that fine line which separates those who are sane from those who are insane. And when I met him, he was panicked and fearful and trembling. And he said, there was this plan. They have people right in here. And I said, well, you know you can deal with this under the law. Freedom of information action, may take a little while but we can get some information. Does anybody in here working for the CIA we ought to be able to get those, get that information bring an action in the federal court, the United States and have the person leave. You don't have to worry about taking about anyone taking that kind of action against you because we can find out in all probability as we did in the Kennedy case, Kennedy assassination as we did the King assassination, get documents which will reveal things which we did not previously know. And so I had agreed to do that one thing. And I was beginning work on that when these People's Temple office in San Francisco contacted me during the early days of November of last year and said Jim Jones would like you to do one more thing. And I said, what's that? I said, well, they've got a message from Congressman Ryan that he's heading a congressional investigation into Jonestown, and he would like you to urge the congressmen not to go. And I said, all right, I called Congressman Ryan's office immediately, from my home in Memphis, Tennessee to San Mateo, California knowing that that was around election time the congressmen would not be in Washington and he was not but he was not in his office and he never did call me back. And so I wrote a letter to him, and within a day or two I received a telephone call from Jim Scholar of the house international relations committee telling me that he was an aid to Congressman Ryan. He was applying to go on the trip with him. I said, who was, what would the delegation consists of? And he said two members of Congress, Congress and Ryan and one aid and Congressman Derwenski, a Republican on the committee and one aid, just the four of them. And I said, Mr Scholar, Jim Jones sees this as the same thing that I said to Congressman Ryan in the letter. He sees this as a provocation. And I told him that Jones might consider going to another country precipitously if this was to take place. And this would be very embarrassing for the United States. And I urged him not to go. I told them that Jim Jones was ill and under medication I said, this is the least propitious time for such a visit. And his answer was I'll raise that with the Congressman and let you know. And he did, and later called me back and said, no the congressman's going to go anyway. And I said, let me tell you, the dates you're talking about are going to Georgetown on November 14th, into Jonestown on November 16th. Now, Mr. Jones has asked that I'd be there with you all when that trip is made. I said, November 16th is the day that James Earl Ray is to testify before the house select committee on assassinations in Washington. You know that you've seen that on television. You've seen a report in the press, I'm his attorney. I must be there with him. And so I ask if you can at least put off the visit for two weeks so I can take care of that matter and then move into the next one. He said he would raise that with Congressman Ryan and he did. And the answer was no, Congressman Ryan is going on the 14th. He'll be in Jonestown on the 16th. And that's all there is to it. I communicated that information back to the People's Temple office in San Francisco. And they had direct contact with Jim Jones by radio, amateur radio, from San Francisco to Jonestown. That was the only direct way of communicating with Jonestown and the answer by Jim Jones was the well, that was terrible. And he really didn't want this visit at this time. Wasn't there some way to put it off. And he came up with a series of suggestions to tell Congressman Ryan number one, this was a communist organization and they wanted people representing different political viewpoints from the Congress. And I explained to the People's Temple personnel in San Francisco, that if this was the French parliament or the Italian parliament and you wanted equal representation of communist and non-communist that could be arranged with the United States Congress that was very difficult to work out. And they wanted an equal member of members of the black caucus, black members of Congress. And I said, well you can't pick the committee that investigates you and Jones was coming up with desperate ideas about how to stall off the visit. And most of them, it seemed to me would not have been persuasive to Congress and did not make an awful lot of sense. And the reasons which I offered to the Congress I thought did, he was entitled to be represented by an attorney of his choice. He chose me, I could not be there that day. That was one of the reasons. In any event Jones decided that maybe he would let them in two members of Congress and two aides, and maybe they could deal with the problems at that time. And I said is that who's coming Mr Scholar, two members of Congress in two ways. And he said, yes, that's all I assure you. Then I received a telephone call from Don Harris who was a friend of mine and NBC television. We had done some work together on the NBC programs, network programs which he had produced about the assassination of Dr. King, and that was in the previous months. And he called and said, Mark are you going to be involved in this one too, with me? I said, what has that done? And he said, well, we're all going to Jonestown together, aren't we? I said, you're going to Jonestown with who? And he said, well, the Congressman Ryan we'd been invited to go and bringing a whole film crew with me. And I said, I just talked to the congressman's office. And they tell me two members of Congress and two aides and nobody else. He said, no, no, look, a lot of the news media is going down there and I call back, Mr. Scholar and told him what Mr. Harris had told me. And he said, no, he's wrong. I said, maybe he's flying down to Georgetown from New York City Pan-Am is a public carrier. Anybody can buy a ticket on that plane but I assure you that they're not going anywhere near Jonestown, they stay in Georgetown. So that information was communicated back to Jim Jones. And he was reassured again two members of Congress and two aides, and that was going to be the delegation. Just prior to then last day of November, a woman named Teri Buford, a brilliant young graduate of the university of California school of journalism who had been with Jim Jones' organization for some seven years and who I'd met in Jonestown of the two days that I was there in September defected from People's Temple called me. She called me because when I spoke with her on the way back from Jonestown to Georgetown, I raised serious questions about what I saw there. The press, in fact reported here this evening said didn't you say that Jonestown was a utopian paradise and a socialist paradise, the answer is no, I never did say anything related to that. In fact, I raised very serious criticism with People's Temple leadership and with Teri Buford in great detail when we had an opportunity to talk about it when she was the second ranking leader in People's Temple back in September of last year, I said, you know I come to Jonestown and I hear that it's a society, which is struggling against the standards of our own in America. And then I see the ruling group in Jonestown, white college educated, professionally trained middle-class. And I see the people poor working class, black, poorly educated. And I said, this is not, I don't see a society which is built as a contrast to the American society, but one which unfortunately too closely reflects the very problems in the United States. And I raised very other problems which I'd seen, I said, you know, when I first heard about this place called Jonestown and heard it was a white minister, most of the people were black in the congregation. So white minister named Jones, and it was named after him, it seemed a little odd to me. I understand you have a nuclear plant around here with a similar disability, but named after the person was still around. It always raises questions in my mind as to a propriety as a matter of fact and more than that but it was because I had raised these questions, and because she, Teri Buford when she defected did not want to become an opponent of People's Temple or Jonestown, but wanted to talk to someone who was looking at the thing quite realistically, someone to whom she could confide the problems, and she did, she came to see me the last day of October of last year. And she told me about some of the problems in there. And she said, the worst thing in the world, the worst thing is a confrontation. That would be the worst thing that can happen. And I was inclined to agree with that based upon my analysis, then I'm inclined to agree with that position now, based upon everything that we know. It's incredible it seems to me that the news media has been relatively successful in trying to convince the American people that somehow I was responsible for what took place when so far as I know, I am the only person on the face of this planet who tried to prevent the confrontation while the state department, the FBI and the CIA sent congressman Ryan in there to his death, knowing not, not knowing that he would be killed but knowing that it was a real possibility, that he would die and many others would die, because as we will see, when we move into the facts, on that question, that the state department and the intelligence agencies knew everything about the problems in Jonestown and deliberately deceived Congressman Ryan. Had they told him the truth, I am convinced that he would not have gone there. In fact, after all of my objections to him, and to his staff and to his aides, he arranged for a meeting with the state department to find out if there was any validity to the points that I was making. And he was assured by the state department, well, Lane's just the lawyer. Jones does not like anybody else. He doesn't want a congressional investigation. So that telling you that things about provocation, but we know. We can assure you of this Congress, and Ryan said the state department at a meeting just before they embarked for Georgetown, we can assure you of this, the only problems that you will run into in there, as you will find that the food and the housing will not be up to your ordinary standards, no other problems. That's what the state department told Congressman Ryan and that's why he went. And that's why he disregarded my advice, because the the state department said they knew more about it than I did, and they did. They knew a lot more than I did but they did not share that information with him. When Teri Buford left, she was afraid that some action would be taken against her, that she might in fact, even be killed by People's Temple for defecting. And so she left a note behind saying that she was going to infiltrate an organization called the concerned parents, concerned relatives an organization set up by people who had relatives in there, A group which Jim Jones saw as the enemy, the group set up as he felt to destroy him and to destroy Jonestown. And she left word that she was going to infiltrate that group, which was very much directed by a man named Tim Stone, a lawyer in California. She said that because that group was based in Berkeley California, and she was flying to New York. And she thought that would buy her some time as she put it. Well, Jones was concerned about finding her. And so he sent Tim Carter from Jonestown into the concerned relatives organization in Berkeley, California, looking for Teri Buford. And when he got there and saw that she was not there, he did meet with Tim Stone, Mr. Jones's adversary. And Stone said, this is our plan, Ryan is going in there. He's going in with the news media, he's going in with some of the relatives from our organization. We're all going to walk in there together. If we get one person to defect from that organization because the Congressman will be there when it happens, NBC television will film it. And all the major press of America will be writing down the words. We will destroy Jonestown. We will destroy Jim Jones and Terry Carter, Tim Carter took that information back to Jim Jones, adding to his paranoia, adding to his fear that one person might leave, and if so, the entire operation would be destroyed. Congressmen said he was going And he was going just with one of the congressmen in two aides, one aide each. And when I gave that information back to People's Temple and they gave that to Jim Jones, Jones said that was not true. He said, the congressmen is lying to you. We know from our person who infiltrated the Stone group that going with the news media they go in with relatives who are opposed to us. Their plan is to destroy us. And I was reassuring that that's not true. I was saying to the People's Temple exactly what Mr. Scholar had said to me. Well, anybody can find the plane from the United States to Georgetown, but there's no plan to bring them in the Congressman he has given me his word. And Jones was nervous, felt he was being betrayed at the outset by Congressman Ryan, maybe even by his lawyer, I was telling him one thing, his own intelligence was finding out something else. On Friday, November 17th, the day before the massacre I met with Congressman Ryan for the first time at the hotel he was staying at in Georgetown the capital of Guyana, the Pegasus hotel. We went there with Charles Gary who has been the lawyer for People's Temple. The only general council that People's Temple for the last two years, still as the attorney for People's Temple, the executor of Jim Jones's estate, and the executor of Marcy Jones's estate Jim Jones' wife. The attorney in all of the lawsuits filed by People's Temple. And all the lawsuit was filed against People's Temple, all Charles Gary. He went there and I went there with two people from People's Temple to the congressman's office and met with him with Jim Scarlet, who I met for the first time after having had numerous telephone conversations with him and with Jackie Speier who was an aide to Congressman Ryan and a lawyer. And I said, what are the plans for today? He said, well, we're going to be leaving here in 10 minutes. Now there's a seat for Mr. Lane. And a seat for Mr. Gary on the plane. And I said, whos going to be on the plane. I don't see Congressman Wenski, no, he didn't come. Who will be going. Well, he said, I will be going with one aide, nine members of the news media, and four members of the concerned relatives. I said, now, one second, I've been assuring Mr. Jones, all along that you have told me, your office has told me that it's only the two members of Congress and two aides. He said, well, that was our plan, It's been changed. And I said, Mr. Scholar did you give me your word, that it was just going to be two members of Congress and two aides? He said, well, I didn't make a commitment to you. I said, you did and he said, well, I just told you that was our plan. Our plans have changed now. I said to Congressman Ryan, why have you changed your plans without even telling Jim Jones? I said, I told you he's ill, he's under heavy medication. They just saw the visit of two members of Congress in two aides as a provocation. How do you think he's going to see the whole news media being brought in by you? And the relatives who are suing him for millions of dollars, who've made hostile statements about him? How would you think he's going to view that? Ryan said, the reason we changed our mind is because the American embassy which we thought would get us a plane which held six passengers has gotten us a plane which holds 18. And I'm selling tickets on the plane so that we don't have to build a house international relations committee for the use of the whole plane. I said, that's the reason, he said, that's right. And I said, I think you don't want to do this. I think you don't want to provoke a further response from Jim Jones. I said, but I'll tell you what. I will go back to the house in Georgetown with Mr. Gary, and we will communicate all of this information to Jim Jones. And he'll have to decide how he wants to respond. If he's gonna let you all in or not, because at this point he has been assured that just the congressional delegation and no news media and no relatives. He said, well, we don't have time for that. We're leaving in 10 minutes from here. And I said, in other words you just want to arrive there in Jonestown, having a shared with him that it would be a congressional delegation, and no news media no one else, you want to arrive with this whole delegation. He said, that's right, I said, you don't want to do that. That would be a really bad mistake. All of us was tape recorded, this whole conversation, whole exchange. I said, you really don't want to do that. He said, that's the way it's going to be. And I went downstairs and I told that to the news media. And I said, you know I think he's going to see this as a terrible provocation. And I don't think this is the right way to do it. They became a little nervous at that point themselves. They had not been briefed by the state department. They had been told everything's fine. They were getting a little nervous as was I. At that point Jackie Speier came down and said, all right you have two hours, so you can communicate with Jones but meet us at the airport in two hours. And so we went back, Charles Gary now to the People's Temple house and raised Jim Jones by radio in Jonestown and told them what the situation was. And he kept on saying, this is terrible, terrible. I don't know what to do, this is terrible. What should I do? And I said, I don't, I can't give you any advice. I can just tell you what seems to me to be a plan. And that is I don't think they expect you to let anybody in. I think that's why they're doing it this way without telling you in advance. Oh, I should tell you this, that when I said who are the four relatives who will be going? And Congressman Ryan said, I will not tell you. And I said, well how can I tell Jim Jones what the delegation is? I said, you know, this is a private community. They don't have to let anybody in, a member of Congress or anybody else. It's not in the United States, it's a private community. And they've agreed to open the gates to you and let you look all over the place. But you keep on changing the rules and he's going to be very upset. And I said, at least tell me who's coming in so I can tell him that. And he said, no we're not going to tell you who the relatives are. I said, he's going to see them at the gate. He said, all right, you can see them there, but not before. Well, try to put the best face on it when I talked to Jim Jones, I said four relatives would come in, and he said, who are they? And I said, I don't know, they wouldn't say, but you know you'll see them before they go in. And he said, this is terrible, this is a betrayal. He said, he lied to you. He's been lying to us all along. What do you think they're planning? And I said, I don't know, but I can tell you that if you don't let them in, the congressmen of course will be at the gate. The news media has traveled a long long way for that moment. They're going to have a story and it will be on film. NBC will run it in the very near future, network news Congressman Ryan trying to get in and being told by the people Jonestown, you're not allowed in the relatives saying I want to see my sister, I want to see my brother. I want to see my child, all film with the press there writing it down. And that will all be very widely reported in the United States, and eventually, no doubt there'll be a congressional investigation based upon your refusal to let the congressmen in. I said, but that depends on your timetable. If that's not a problem for you, that's fine. That's up to you, he said, well, what do you suggest? Well, I had no suggestions. Charles Gary came on and took a very firm position and must let them in or it will be a catastrophe. If you don't, I'm going back to San Francisco if you don't let them in. And he said, all right, all right, all right we'll let them in. But this is very bad, they've lied to us. And that's the way the visit began. I was on the truck with Congressman Ryan. We drove into Jonestown together. Among the relatives who were present was one man who was suing People's Temple and Jonestown and Jim Jones for $15 million about conditions in Jonestown. And his suit was greatly aided by the fact that he could go in there and look around. He was burdened by Congressman Ryan and Jones felt that that was a terrible thing for the Congressman to have done. They looked around, I walked in with the Congressman, introduced them to Marcy Jones, Jim Jones's wife. And she said, we would like to show you our health facility, our medical programs, our nursery school, our education some things we're very proud of. We know you've heard negative things about us. We'd like you to look at everything we have here. And he said, yes, I'll do that, but first I want to I have a list of people I want to interview and I want to interview them alone just Jackie Spear and I, where can we be, where no one will hear what we have to say? And so in that same pavilion where the next day many of the people were to die, Congressman Ryan was taken to a platform, the bench and a table and told he could remain there, and he reached into his pocket and said, here's a list of seven people I want to see. I'd like them to be brought up here quickly, one at a time, that was a reasonable request. He had names from relatives. What was so unusual about it is that Richard McCoy of the American embassy, the Intelligence desk of the American embassy had been in there in the past. Let me give you a little background about that. There've been many complaints about People's Temple made by relatives to the American embassy and the past, since since People's Temple organized as Jonestown operation. And as a relative has made complaints, lou Gurvitch who I spoke about earlier, whose daughter Jan was in there called Mr McCoy and said, my daughter, Jan, is there. I think she may be kept there against her own wishes. I'm thinking that he said I got 300 guys working for me. They all got guns. I'm thinking about going down there and getting my daughter out of there. He said, don't do a thing, don't even visit her. I will visit her myself and let you know. And so Mr. McCoy went in sometime thereafter and conducted an interview with Jan Gurvich and with several other people and reported back to Mr. Gurvich, she's fine, he's happy. It's a peaceful pastoral place. There's no basis for any of the complaints. That's where the story of the socialist utopia came from from the assurances made by the United States government to the relatives of Jonestown. They vouched for it. No problems at all in there. People are happy, healthy, well fed. No one wants to leave. Well, it does seem a little odd to me, retrospect I think to all of us, people lived there for a year and a half, over a thousand people, almost nobody ever left. Now people leave cities all the time, families break up, yet nobody ever left there. And these are people from the large urban centers of the United States living in the middle of a jungle. Certainly there was a cultural shock. How come nobody wanted to leave? Well, the American embassy said they don't want to leave because they love it there. There are no problems at all. How did Mr. McCoy conduct his investigation? How did he interview people? The question is are these people being held captive. Is Jim Jones and are the members of his staff the captors. That was the question. Mr. McCoy would submit the names of those he wanted to interview to Jim Jones four weeks in advance of the interview. In four weeks, I will want to talk to these people. Well that gave Jim Jones three weeks to increase the quality of life and improve the quality of life for those who are going to be questioned. And he did better food, better jobs. Everyone was nice to him. And those who were single and had no sex partners, something was provided. And they were, everybody was in love. Everybody on the list was in love three weeks before the inquiry. They didn't know that anybody's coming to see them. Everything was done to change and improve their lives. No one ever said a harsh word to them. They could actually genuinely say, you know, there are a lot of problems here, but the last four weeks it's, you know things have really been looking up there. But more than that, they would drill during the last week about every question which could be put to them and what their answers must be. Jim Jones's most passionately committed follower was a woman named Maria Catsouras. And she was present during all of the interviews conducted in there. Now, Mr. McCoy had to know that those were interviews conducted without integrity. First, give the potential possible captor the names four weeks in advance and then allow the possible captor to have his aide sitting on all of the interviews. Well, Tom Reston reported to the New York Times he's from the state department, explained it all. He said, well, we didn't conduct the best investigations but after all he said, our consulate people are not trained investigators. That may be so in general, but we were not talking about a general situation, but a specific one. Richard McCoy was an officer in the office of special investigations of the United States air force intelligence for six years prior to becoming the intelligence officer of the American embassy in Georgetown. And he kept on saying, everything's fine. He said that to Lou Gurvich, don't come in here. And Gurvich said, if you ever find anything out, any any evidence at all that there's a problem there. Do you promise you will let me know. I'm really very concerned about my daughter and I'll do anything I can to help her. The answer was yes. If we ever find any evidence of all of any wrongdoing we will let you know about it said Mr. Mccoy, and to the relatives he said, I heard all of these rumors about beatings and guns and all of these things and people can't leave but I see a happy, peaceful place. You all may be a little crazy, overreacting, have one person defect from there, give me firsthand evidence, not rumors, and we will take action. In may of 1978, Debbie Blakey the third ranking official of People's Temple in Jonestown defected. And she called Richard McCoy from Georgetown and said, come get me. I want to go home. And this is what she told him. Jim Jones holds the lives of those people in his hand, he had a practice mass suicide ritual which is really mass murder being planned while I was there. It's an armed camp that a two to 300 people with semiautomatic weapons 25 pistols, even have a homemade bazooka. There are terrible beatings that many people want to leave but are not free to leave, and furthermore, when you conduct your investigation and give them four weeks notice they're drilled in advance. Based upon that information, the American embassy later sent someone in there giving People's Temple five weeks notice of the names of the people that were going to question. She said, what, what will you do now? Debbie Blakey said, I'm concerned about the people in there. What can be done, I'm fearful for my own life. He said, well, you can go back to the United States. She said, yes, I'm doing that. And I'll keep my identity secret. I won't let people know where I'm staying but what will you do? Mr. McCoy said, I asked you to do one thing Debbie, you've told me the situation, I ask you when you go back to America, do not tell this to the American news media. And she went back to the United States and for months, she did not tell that to the news media, but the government took no action. And so she told it to the two Malcolm Kilduff of the San Francisco Chronicle And he ran on a major story, Marshall Kilduff. He ran a major story with her picture across three columns saying just what I said to you. Was picked up by the AP and the UPI sent to every newspaper magazine, radio station television station in America and a remote jungle outpost people that held their lives are in jeopardy two to 300 weapons. They practice a mass suicide ritual. They could be all killed at any time. That was in June of last year, sent to every newspaper in America, two to 300 semiautomatic weapons. All the details sent out by the AP and UPI all over America in June. There were no secrets about the problems there for anyone who was conducting an investigation to find out what the situation was. Certainly there were very powerful allegations of problems there. When Congressman Ryan confronted with these stories and confronted with my plea that he knocked go to Georgetown and Jonestown was briefed by many members of the state department, including Mr. McCoy, he said, what's the story about all of this? He said, it's no, it's crazy. It's a peaceful place, no guns there. No problem there But Debbie Blakey had told them, told Mr. McCoy that she saw two to 300. How could that be discounted? How could a United States Congressman walk into that situation into an armed camp of people led by someone whose mental status was at least in doubt? I'm going to go back a little early to tell you what else the United States government knew. Tim Stone was the original attorney for People's Temple more than seven years ago. And he has a very interesting background. Went on tour of the world for Rotary International, went to East Germany and later wrote that he was arrested there by the Russian KGB in East Germany. But then he said his life was set forever because there he saw the grim robot-like faces of the East Germans, the communists and when he returned to West Germany, saw happy smiling faces of the capitalists. And he realized then that he would dedicate his whole life to the total destruction of communism, wherever he went. He wrote about this, came back to the United States to dedicate his life to the destruction of communism and went to see Jim Jones who was an avowed leader of a communist organization and said, I'd like to be your general counsel. Either Mr. Stone had suffered an immediate political impersonality and metamorphosis, or he was involved in a masquerade in claiming that he was a communist who wanted to assist Jim Joseph. This is what Teri Buford stated. Unlike Esquire Magazine on the New York times or CBS news, which offered their own comments, teri Buford testified under oath before a grand jury under penalty of perjury, and this is what she said. During the entire time when she was when she first joined the temple, she was assigned by Jim Jones to be the aid, the legal aid to Tim Stone who was the general counsel of the People's Temple for seven years. She worked with him closely every day during that period. She said there was never a crime contemplated or committed by People's Temple not one, which Tim Stone had not suggested, not initiated or counseled them to go ahead with if someone else had suggested. Among the crimes he suggested she said in her testimony that we, we the People's Temple poisoned the water supply system of Washington DC, manufactured bombs in San Francisco. He was responsible, she said for a kidnapping of an elderly man and why was none of this detected when the temple was based in Ukiah, California because Tim Stone became the assistant district attorney of Ukiah, California and utilized that position to prevent an investigation into the very crimes that at nighttime he was proposing, and during the daytime covering up as an assistant DA. Then the People's Temple move to San Francisco because Ukiah was not congenial politically. A racist community with no blacks living there. Vast majority of the people People's Temple being black. They moved to San Francisco to a more tolerant area. Just like that Mr. Stone became the assistant district attorney in San Francisco as well. And Jim Jones would address his followers on occasion and say, I know some of you don't like the discipline that you've subjected yourself to, the spankings, the beatings. But if any of you have complained to the police remember this before the police can take action, we have an assistant DA and he will report back to us about your complaint. Teri Buford testified that in fact, Tim Stone arranged for the kidnapping of an elderly man from an old age home in Ukiah, California man was badmouthing Tim Stone, had him kidnapped and taken down to Los Angeles and putting the People's Temple old age home. And when the woman who owned the home Birdie Maribel went to the district attorney's office and Ukiah, to complain that this man had been kidnapped, she was referred to Tim Stone when she fled in terror. And that evening Tim Stone called Jim Jones and said, well, she came in, you should've seen her jaw drop is nothing they can do, as long as I have this position. Is it about time somebody looked into the question of the use of law enforcement in these areas? Other bizarre things were happening. Two of the defectors from the People's Temple who had informants in People's Temple discover that there's going to be a large shipment of guns, those guns, which were down there later and played a part in the murders. They were going to be shipped down in large crates, containing medical supplies but there were going to be false bottoms. And they gave that information to the San Francisco police department and the United States customs authorities and to the treasury department. And they took no action, and their records revealed this now we've gotten those documents that those complaints were made and they took no action. The government, knowing that guns were being shipped illegally to Jonestown, took no action. They knew those guns were going to be there even before Mr. McCoy knew that they had had been placed there. One of the most bizarre aspects of this incredible story is that one day Tim Stone, according to his own affidavit went to see Jim Jones and said, you know, my wife, his wife Grace Stone really loves you, Jim. And our life would be complete if you became the father of her child. And he has said this already in an affidavit and the act evidently took place sometime there later, John John Stone was born, now Jim Jones had a very possessive attitude to put it very mildly about not only all of the members of his flock but certainly about his own flesh and blood And Grace Stone left People's Temple and left her child behind. And Jim Jones raised that child as his own. It was his child, he raised that child. And he was afraid at one point when great criticism was beginning to develop in San Francisco about him, that an effort would be made by Grace Stone to take the child back. And so he went to his lawyer, Tim Stone, the husband of the mother, and said, what can I do to make sure that I never lose John John, and Tim said, look, you're the father. I'll tell you what you can do. I've done a lot of research. This is according to the testimony of Teri Buford. I've done a lot of research and I've discovered that if you go to Jonestown, a community, which was thriving and existing and doing a lot better than before Jim Jones got there, then it did afterwards. If you go down there, he said, I've checked the extradition treaties, no action can be brought which will ever successfully extradite John John from Guyana to the United States. He said, even if I tried to do the same thing with Grace together, you could never lose the child if you're there. And based upon that advice, Jim Jones went to Jonestown. That's why he went there based upon the advice of his attorney. Before going, he said, listen, Tim, you know, you know what will happen, if Grace ever tries to get this child back? I will kill the child and I'll kill myself, and all of us will die in Jonestown. I will never, never allow this child to be taken from me. Tim Stone knew that Jim Jones meant that. He had known him for seven years. Tim Stone went down to Jonestown, left his child behind, the child behind, came back the United States while he was down there. Jones told him on more than one occasion if there's ever any effort, which looks like it will be successful to take this child from me I'll kill the child and myself, and we will all die here. That's the principal quote of Dr King, if you're not willing to die for what you believe in then you're not really living anyway, taking it somewhat out of context and distorting the meaning of course but utilizing that basis for his position, Stone said I understand that, Stone went back to the United States, left the People's Temple and initiated a custody action to require to acquire custody of John John Stone, knowing what Jim Jones might do. And he was not living with Grace Stone and he was not the father. It's hard to understand why he brought that action. He'd left the child behind. Didn't try to have the child leave with him but brought a legal action. Jones was very, very nervous about that suit and hired counsel, the finest lawyer in Georgetown to represent him. Stone spent a lot of money for the suit. I understand he spent $25,000 to one lawyer in Georgetown which is a lot of money for any lawsuit and an awful lot of money by Guyanese standards I assure you. Made the lawyer received it almost a millionaire by Guyanese standards. It's a very, very poor country, Guyana. And an order was issued on the very day that the leadership of Guyana was no longer in the country. Deputy prime minister was in the United States. Other leaders were in various out of places, leaving behind the fourth person in the power structure who was very hostile to the People's Temple as the person in charge of the country at that moment. And when the order was served on Jonestown personnel requiring them to surrender John John in October, 1977, Jim Jones radioed Teri Buford who was running the radio in San Francisco the People's Temple office and said they're coming for John John, I'm going to kill him, I'm going to kill myself. And we're all going to die here. Now that was not said privately in a telephone conversation, but by radio, was monitored by the federal communications commission, by the central intelligence agency and the federal Bureau of investigation. They've now conceded, they knew all about that that radio call but it was not just one, went on for hour after hour after hour. And Teri was almost panicking. She knew that he meant it. He gathered everyone together and the pavilion had them surrounded. The poison was being prepared. That was no idle threat, and Teri Buford knew it. And she just thought, who can I get who can persuade him that this is the wrong thing to dissuade him from this conclusion? Hughie Newton the black Panther party brought in and was involved in a long radio conversation with Jim Jones saying, don't do this. And he said, well you wrote this book, revolutionary suicide. And you said, that's not what I meant. He said, I'll tell you, I want to tell you something, Jim you kill those people down there, that's not revolutionary suicide. That is genocide against black people. You cannot do that. And as firm as he was, Hughie Newton, he was cautious thinking that this man is insane. I can only go so far, I don't want to alienate him. I want to move him to the position where he'll stop. Angela Davis was brought in, she too was involved in radio conversation begging Jim Jones, not to do it. Dennis Banks of the American Indian movement, same thing all begging him not to do it. And in the meantime, there was a desperate search for deputy prime minister Reed. It was in the United States and they located him and Marcy Jones flew to where he was that same day, told him what the situation was and begged him to authorize the statement that John John will not be taken away. And just before the massacre was about to take place in October, 1977, the deputy Prime minister Reed gave his word that was communicated to Jim Jones. And he called off the massacre. Now all of that was known to the state department and the fact that since that time they had acquired two to 300 semiautomatic weapons and the Jones had been driven to distraction. And yet they said to Congressman Ryan go in there, perfectly safe. And when Ryan said to Mr. McCoy, in essence that to the state department, when I go in there, I want to take out this list and show it to them. The names of the people, is that going to cause a problem? Oh no, Mr mcCoy does that all the time, course he never did anything like that. He said, I want to be alone with him. That's fine, Mccoy does that all the time. So he showed the list that day, the evening, Friday evening November 17th and people were brought up one at a time, and talked to the Congressman. And the leadership of Jonestown was terrified that one person might defect. They kept on saying, if one person goes, will be destroyed, I didn't know what they were talking about. I didn't know that Tim Carter had learned that from Tim Stone, that was a Tim Stone strategy. No-one told me that at that time, I learned it a little later that evening. Jones kept saying it. Harriet Tropp who was a law graduate, who was one of his advisors kept saying that. Johnny Jones, his adopted son kept saying that that evening, if one person goes, will be destroyed. And I said, no, you won't, what does that mean? It's most half the people go home. What difference does it make? Half the people want to stay, half the people want to go home. The ones that want to go home could go home. What's wrong with that? No, if one person goes, will be destroyed. They kept on saying that. And none of it made any sense. In any event, he had gone through the list of seven and everyone said they were quite content there. And the leadership heaved a sigh of relief. And then he took out another list of eight more and another list and another list, and another list. Later that evening, a dinner was made available to all of the guests Congressman Ryan and the others, and everybody ate, everything was served. We all drank a great deal of what the press refers to as Kool-Aid they're even wrong about that Kool-Aid was not utilized down there was made by another company in another country it's called Flavor Aid. And that was served. Everybody ate and drank that, including me, we, all everything was available, the food was quite good., as a matter of fact, for the guests that evening and a performance was had, this marvelous singing and acting and dancing, a musical program, quartet, great humor, almost all the words were original. Most of the music was original as well. And Congressman Ryan very much enjoyed it. And then he was called upon to speak. Congressman got up there before a thousand Americans and said, you know when like he was unlike most of the other members of Congress who were lauriets, he was a teacher. You said, you know, I've heard a lot of charges about this place before I came here but I've looked around at it, and I've met two of my former students here already. And many of the people I've talked to have said that the greatest thing that ever happened to them in their lives was Jonestown. And there's a great ovation, at that point, he sat down smiling. And things seem to be going very well at that point, it appeared that there might not be a serious confrontation. It was out of a fear of a confrontation that I'd gone there, James Oray's testimony had been canceled without an explanation by the house select committee and the People's Temple called me and said, we saw on television that you don't have to be in Washington now, can you go down to Jonestown? And I met with Teri Buford and with April Ferguson who was my law partner and dear friend. And I said, what should I do? They want me to go down there? And April said, don't go. I said, why do you think I shouldn't go? And she said, because you know, you know enough now to know that Jim Jones is sort of crazy and therefore you never know what a crazy person will do. Therefore it's better not to be around him. And I said, Teri, she said, well, you know, I love those people. They're all my friends and all my family a thousand of them, I've known them for seven years. They're marvelous people, almost all the people there. She said, I don't think there will be any problem. I mean, after all, when she said when I last saw Jim Jones in September, September 18th I said to him, there is a campaign to drive you crazy, Jim to make you pull off this white Knight, this mass suicide and you must resist it. He said, Oh, I know that she said, Joan said I know that I know that's the game plan. I'll never fall for it, I'll never do it. And she said the fact that he said that, that that they would never do anything. The fact that he had never harmed anybody in the organization, outside of the organization. No one that, that he'd been very, very careful about the press, about anyone in Congress, about any lawyer anyone who was not a member of the organization that those who accepted the discipline of People's Temple were one thing. Those outside had never been harmed. No one had ever been hit or pushed. She said that she couldn't conceive of him doing anything to harm anybody with a Congressman and the news media there. And she said, you know, but if something comes up if there is a problem with sometimes she said, Mark I think you're the one person who can sort of smooth things over because he knows you're not an agent of the government. You've fought them for so many years in the Kennedy and King cases he has respect for you for doing that. And she said I just think there's not going to be a problem but if there is, I think more than anyone else, you may be able to stop it if anything develops but I'm sure that nothing will happen to you or to the other guests there. And April said, how can you be sure if he's crazy? He said, well, I can't be sure, but I'm almost sure. And based upon that and her plea that I might be able to be of some value there, I went to Jonestown. I was in Washington when it was finally decided that the Ray was not going to testify finally. And I was wearing a suit, I was dressed. You know, you dress differently for Congress, a congressional committee in November, as you from the way you would be dressed in the middle of a tropical jungle, of course you, in other words there's different kinds of clothing, depending upon the jungle that you're appearing in and a suit and a tie for one and a something less formal for another. And I had no clothing to take down to Jonestown. I went out and did a little shopping in a Washington department store. And one of the things I bought was six pair of white shorts. I didn't expect to be away from home for so long I'm not going to burden you with my entire shopping a laundry list. It's just that this becomes somewhat relevant later in the narrative and I had a little case in which I kept my toilet articles and some of the shorts and some of the things that I bought in a little shoulder bag, which I took down there with me. Friday night past and it appeared there was no provocation. Congressman Ryan went to sleep late at night. So did Jackie Spire. So did man from the ministry of information of Guyana who was in there and the other, the relatives and the press went back to port Kaituma where lodgings which had arranged there. And Charles Gary and I shared a little room in Jonestown but before we retired, Joan said he wanted us to hear something and then arrange for a little meeting of perhaps a dozen or less people in that pavilion And jim Jones said, all right, Tim tell them what Stone told you, talking to Tim Carter. And he told us how he'd go into the center. And Tim Stone said, if one person defects one person leaves Jonestown and Jim Jones will be totally and completely destroyed. At that point, Jones was shaking. His hands were trembling. And I said, listen, Jim that's what Tim Stone who you say is your enemy, that's what he wants you to believe, but that's not true. If half the people leave, it doesn't mean anything. It means that half the people want to go home. How does that deal with the integrity of this operation? Half people want to stay half people want to go. I said, listen, Jim, you know people are married for 25 years and one spouse leaves the other. Children grow up and they leave the family. People move from one country to another, people quit their jobs after 10 or 15 or 20 years. That's not a betrayal. I said, you say, you're a Marxist, you know, about dialectical materialism. Things are always in a state of flux and change. They're always contradictions. It's amazing that people would be here for a year and a half and nobody would leave. Almost nobody would leave. There's nothing wrong with someone leaving. And he said, if one person leaves we'll be destroyed how do we know that one person, maybe even an agent in here tend to defect and we'll be destroyed? I said, no, that's what Tim Stone wants you to believe. But it was hopeless, he had that thought., It had been implanted in him by Tim Stone who was a close, intimate contact of his. Together, they'd run the People's Temple for seven years and had a close, continuing intimate relationship. And stone knew which buttons to push. And he'd pushed that appropriate button for that appropriate response, and it was there. It was very difficult to dislodge. Well, that was Friday night and things had gone fairly well. The Congressman was impressed with some of the things that he'd seen and perhaps concerned about other things. But if he was, he was not talking about them. The next morning we had breakfast and then went out into the day and a number of problems immediately confronted us. The word got around, two people were leaving. Two people that decided had told the Congressman that they were going to leave. and when that happened, I went to Harry Trop who gave me the news, this young law graduate. She said, two people are leaving, two people are leaving. And I said, I think that's great, she said what? I said, sure. I mean, people want to leave, should leave. And if nobody left, it would seem very strange to me after a year and a half. If people want to leave, I think it's fine. And she looked at me and she screamed, you're crazy, you're crazy! That terminated the discussion at that point. And she walked away, but that was the atmosphere which was existing at that time. And then Charles Krauss of the Washington post who was perhaps the most ill-informed person in the entire operation, certainly of the news media insisted upon going into one building called Jane Pittman gardens. Up until that point, the leadership was panicked about fear that someone might leave or something might be discovered, but the people live there weren't concerned at all so far as I could see. Nobody seemed at all because everyone's friendly and relaxed and low key and went about their business until the Jane Pittman garden episode. Charles Krauss went there. He did not know no one had told him anything about Jonestown or People's Temple. I think the Washington post was almost criminally negligent in sending that fool in there completely unaware of any of the circumstances. He went right up to the building, and he said, I want to go in, I want to look around this building. And the people they're all elderly women in there said we don't want you to come in. He said, I'm with the Washington Post. They said, well then we certainly don't want you to come in here. And he started saying, I have the right to go in there. I have a right to visit all this place. I was told that I could see anything I wanted to say, why can't I get in there? By now the news media had just about finished its work and they were going on a tour with Marcy Jones finally of the nursery school, of the medical program medical program was a remarkable program. I'm not painting for you in paradise. I tell you people were eating rice and working very long, hard hours. And at first it was a benign dictatorship, which turned into a mad dictatorship which made life very, very difficult. But there were positive things that existed there which is why the people went there in the first place. There was a medical program there. I talked to one woman who had high blood pressure a woman in her sixties on the West coast, black woman she had high blood pressure. She had her blood pressure checked three times a day in that place, 70 medical workers, 70, for 1000 people that took care of two to 300 Amarin Indians who came in from the interior each week. She said to me, you know I have my blood pressure checked three times a day. For her, the rice diet actually was effective because it was bringing it down. She said, you know, when I live in the United States, I didn't have my blood pressure checked three times in 60 years in America, I talked to a man who had crippling arthritis. He said he would drag himself to his neighborhood clinic in the hospital and wait there in a ghetto area and wait and wait and wait, and finally, if he was examined, often he would get nothing but aspirin. He said down here, I get really fine medical treatment. I talked to a woman there who had three, I asked her why she was there. And she said, because I have three children, one of whom is now just about high school age, and we live in Watts, Los Angeles. She said, if by some miracle, all three of them graduated from high school, she said, I'm with the problems of this community, unemployment about 80% among black young people. Terrible crime problems, heroin available. It would be a miracle if they, but if they did all graduate, I know they would not be able to read and write. They'd be functionally illiterate. And the statistics support that, unfortunately in Ghetto schools all around this country, not just Watts, but east Harlem and Harlem, South side of Chicago, all around this country. That is a fact. She said, that's why we came here. Well now for the first and they'd built an educational system better than most public educational systems in the large cities of America, accredited by the Guyanese educational system. There's a man named Richard Trop who was considered to be a near genius at the university of Rochester. They were building a whole academic program around him after he came back from his Woodrow Wilson fellowship, he left, he went down there to teach, had remarkable teachers all over that place. And so these were the positive aspects which led the people there. And now finally the Congress and some of the news media were seeing the positive aspects of life. So they could have some kind of a balanced story. And there was Charles Kraus demanding the right to go in and all the media left, all the other things they were doing and went over the house. And I heard from one of the members of the news media, well they found the place where Jim Jones's goons have people at gunpoint, the recalcitrance of being held at gunpoint so the news media and the Congressman can't see them. So I went running over to the house and that was Jane Pittman gardens. And I went running over there and all the news media was gathered there. By now John Harris had come with his TV crew and all the other media was there, Tim Reiterman of the San Francisco Examiner was there. And Johnny Jones, Jim Jones's adopted son was very angry and said, you don't have a right to go in. These people live there. They don't want you to come into their homes. Krauss said we have the right, because we were told we know what's going on in there. And finally Tim Reiterman said, well, if it's just a question of privacy, how did these people in there feel about Mark? And Johnny said, well, they liked him a lot. He talked about the King case and he's got a lot of friends here over a hundred people who've written to me from Jonestown after I spoke there, thanking me for having spoken there. And he said, people like him a lot, why? And Tim Reiterman and said, if you let Mark Lane walk in there if they'll let him go in there. And he says, nobody's got a gun and people just don't want to talk with us. We will accept that as a fact. And he said, all right. And he asked the people how they felt about that. And the women said fine. So I walked in there, It was a crowded facility. A lot of elderly people, most of them were, all of them were women. Most of them were black. And I walked around and said, look the news media is out, there was nobody with a gun in there. I said, the news media wants to talk with you. Do you want to talk with them? And each one said, no, I asked each person. And then I went out and said I didn't see any guns in there. And then the women said they don't want to talk to you. And the news media said, well, all right, that's what you say, you are their lawyer. I knew they wouldn't be satisfied with that but that's what they suggested, so that's what I did. And then I took Johnny Jones aside and said, look, I, you know, it's crowded. Maybe you don't want them to see how crowded the facility is, but I tell you this, what's in their mind is a lot worse than a crowded facility. They think they're, you know, they don't believe me. They think that people guns in their holding people silently, so they can't tell the truth about Jonestown. And I said, I think you're better off letting them go in there, trying to persuade the people that would be all right. And he said, all right he went in and talked to people and they said, okay. So the media made a tour and they were satisfied that there's nobody there with a gun. And all the rumors that they had started and fabricated were untrue, but they saw that it was a crowded facility. And they came out and started talking about how crowded it was in there. And some of the black women came out and said, what are you coming from? Where do you come from? And he said, the San Francisco examiner. She said, I used to live in San Francisco in the Filmore area. You should have seen how crowded my apartment was there. And with rats and roaches too, not far from your office, you never came to my house then. You never talked about the crowded conditions that black people and other minority groups were forced to live in in San Francisco and the ghettos. But you come thousands of miles to follow us here to embarrass us here. Why is that? And now for the first time not just the leadership, but the people In Jonestown were becoming angry with the news media. He said, well, we felt we had the right to go into Well, would I have the right to go to your home? I fly to San Francisco today. Can I walk in your home and look around and all your rooms see how crowded it is, see how you live? Do I have that right? And so it became a very angry exchange, with the number of people involved in that exchange with people from the news media. A little bit later, and that created a very bad situation because it's now not just the leadership but people becoming, who live there becoming very angry. A little later that day I was talking to Congressman Ryan, when he said to me, the Parks family, a family of six people had decided to leave. And Jim Jones was very upset about it. And Jones went over and started talking to them, gesticulating wildly, I was with the congressmen some yards away talking with him. We'd become quite friendly during that period of time. And he said, you know we couldn't hear what Jones was saying, but it was clear, It seemed clear that he was begging them not to go. And Congressman Ryan said, you know Jim Jones is a genius who built this place took someone like that to do this. But he's also the worst enemy this place could have. I mean, one of the things I'm supposed to be investigating I want to find out about is whether people have a right to leave. Now, he's not pointing a gun at them but look at the pressure he must be putting on them to stay and that's wrong. And I said, that's, I know that's wrong. After awhile Jones called me over and he said, Mark the Parks family has decided to stay and they want to talk with you. So I went over and talked with them and the father was Jerry Parks, his son was Dale. And there were the four other members of the family there. And Jerry and Dale said we have a lot of sympathy for Jim Jones. This was his dream, but the thing has failed. We can't produce any food, the whole project's hopeless. And it's too many hours work, I'm tired, I don't have any decent food, I want to go home. We all want to go home. I said, yeah, he said, but Jim says if we leave with the congressmen, with the American embassy with all of the press here and everything, that will be very destructive and we've agreed. We don't want to do, we don't want to go out with the government. We want to go out, Jim says, we can leave next week. I said, okay. He said, but listen, you're the person we trust here. We want you to prepare a letter, which says that we can leave in one week and we want you to sign it. We want Jim Jones to sign it, will you do that? And I said, yes, I'll prepare such a letter and sign it and give it to you. And I could have left it at that. But I thought that that was not an honest thing to do without telling them my feeling about the instrument that he wanted me to prepare. And I said, I'll do that, but look, I got to tell you this, if you're free to come and go at any time, you don't need the letter, right, and they said, that's right. And I said, if you're not free to come and go, I don't think this letter will, do you any good. First of all, I won't be here next week. I'm leaving tomorrow. And secondly, and maybe first of all, maybe that's secondly for maybe first of all, is the fact that even if I were here, that letter might be useless. But in my absence, I think it very well will be useless. So Jerry and Dale said, what can we do? And I said, well, there's Dwyer of the American embassy. He had replaced Mr. McCoy, but had become the Guyana desk of the state department by then. And I said, let's bring Dwyer over and brief him and see if he'll be here next week. And we told them what the situation was. And Dwyer said, yes, I'll be back here in three months. At which point, the young man in the family through his arms up in the air and shouted I will not wait three months. And I guess that's what it was that attracted Jim Jones. Although I didn't see him come at that time. And he came over toward us and Jerry Parks said to me, what should we do Mark? And I said, if you want to leave, why don't you leave? And I looked up and saw Jim Jones had joined the group and was staring at me. And it appeared to me that I've ever I'd seen a death warrant in someone's eyes, I saw it then. And I thought about that since that time of course I've relived that moment on numerous occasions. And I don't, I don't know what the proper thing to do was, I do know if the situation arose again, identical situation I would have done the same thing. My whole life has been devoted to movements for a national liberation here at home. And every other place that I've ever been able to operate. And I could not tell, I could not lie to someone and encourage them to stay in on false pretenses. So I would have done the same thing again how much that affected Jim Jones at that point, I don't know. Sometime thereafter when I was talking to Congressman Ryan, a man who I'd never seen before came before Congressman Ryan, came up to him. Oh, I should tell you just before that, Don Harris of NBC television said I have to tell you something, we're leaving on the truck. We're going out, down to port Kaituma airstrip and flying back to Georgetown, then the United States. And I said, yes, I'm staying an extra day, he said, why are you staying, I said, because Congressman Ryan has asked me to stay because he's processing people out, and then more people who may want to leave. And he's asked me to stay another day. He said, don't stay. I said, why I said, well, last night when I was in port Kaituma, I discovered from the police there that there are automatic weapons here. I don't think it's safe for you Mark. Come on back with us. And I said, well, that's not good news, are you sure? He said, Oh yeah, there are automatic weapons. I said, well, that's not good news. But look, Don I came here hoping there would be no trouble thinking that if there was any trouble, maybe I could be useful. Now you're talking about something which indicates a greater possibly of trouble, I can't go. It's what I came for, and he begged me to go with him thinking that there was safety on that truck. And I said, no, I was going to stay. 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and he saw that what the man held in his left hand pressed up against his chest near his heart was a sharp knife. The blade about that long with the serrated edge, pressed right up against his heart. And then he looked down and he grabbed his wrist and he said \"Help\". At that point I saw that it was not a joke. I didn't know what, I didn't know he had a knife in his hand cause he was still away from me and I couldn't say it, but I ran up to him took two steps and put my hand under the wrist my thumb under this and pulled as hard as I could. And I don't know how long it lasted. I'm sure it seemed a lot longer than it really was but it seemed like a long time. And I kept on saying, \"Hit him, somebody hit him\". Cause I thought if somebody hit him with a club or a board or something that on the head, that would be the end of the struggle. And nobody did. There was a large crowd of people standing around. Nobody did anything, but what seemed like a very long time and I knew I couldn't do anything but keep my hand on that wrist to keep the knife from going into the congressman's heart. And I held it there. Finally some people got behind the man whose name I found out later it was Don Sly, put their arms around his throat from the back pulled him back and in the struggle he fell back onto them. The congressman fell onto him and I fell into the Congressman by risked my hands, thumbs still then I felt something pop in my thumb but I knew I had to keep it there and finally the knife was dislodged. And the man was taken away I didn't see him disappear, but he disappeared. I was looking at the Congressman there's blood on the right side of his shirt and a little bit on his right pant leg. And I said, \"Are you all right?\" And he said, \"I don't know\". \"I don't know Mark\". And I said, \"Have you been wounded?\" He said, \"I don't know.\" My hand, I saw later had a slight little cut on it but a slight cut and could not have been responsible all of that blood. Don Sly's and as it turns out was very badly cut. And that was Don Sly's blood. And I said, but I didn't know that. Then I said, he didn't know either. the Congress said, \"You are all right?\" He said, \"I don't know.\" And he got up and he sat down on a bench, right near the bench where he'd been questioning people the night before. And I said, \"Are you wounded?\" And he said, \"I don't know.\" And I opened his shirt and I looked and saw that there was no, not even a scratch. And I said, \"I think we better get the doctor.\" And he said, \"I don't need a doctor.\" And I said to Jim Jones was sitting right there watching for the first time he was remarkably calm. And in looking back I guess it's my speculation now that he had made a decision. All the problems had been resolved in his mind. He decided what to do and he said \"Does this change everything congressman? \" And he said, \"Yes, it does.\" But he caught himself and said he was almost in a state of shock of the Congressman. He said, \"well, no not it changes some things, not everything. It changes some things. It will still be a balanced report. I'm gonna talk about this attack but it's not gonna overshadow everything. And I said, \"Get a doctor, Jim.\" The Congressman said, \"No, we don't, I don't need a doctor.\" I said, \"Get a doctor.\" And he went to, he said, \"Yes somebody get a doctor, get Larry.\" The doctor never came. Congressman said, \"What happened to that man Sly?\" \"Did the police take him?\" Of course there were no police in there. And I said to Jim Jones, \"Cole the Port Kaituma police, is a very serious crime and have it reported to them at once, so they can come and take custody of that man.\" He said, \"Yes, we'll get the police.\" The police were never called. At that point, Mr. Dwyer of the American Embassy. Oh, then the next thing that happened was that Don Harris had heard something came running over and he saw the blood all over the Congressman's shirt and his pants and he said, \"Stay there, I'll be right back with a TV crew, the Film crew.\" And I said, \"Don, don't come with the Film crew.\" And all the years that I've given advice of various kinds to the news media that's the first time anyone has ever taken it. And he said, \"Okay\" and it was clear to him that the situation was past redemption or close to it. And he certainly didn't want want to be the person who pushed it over the edge. And so he went back to the truck but at least he disappeared from there. And Mr. Dwyer of the American Embassy came over and said, \"Congressman, I think instead of you guys staying an extra day, I should take your place.\" \"I'll go back with you into the Port Kaituma Airstrip on the truck, and arrange for another plane for tomorrow for Mark and for myself.\" He said, \"Mark will you stay here an extra day with me?\" And I said, \"Yes.\" He said, \"Well, you stay here and I'll go back into Port Kaituma and I'll arrange for plane, I'll be back a little bit later on today.\" And I said, \"All right.\" Realizing that the only two non-members of people's temple then in the entire place were Charles Gary and myself. That was not terribly re-assuring but they all left on the truck, at that point. I was by myself for a little while. I began to think about what that all meant. And as I thought about it then and later I thought, you know that guy never tried to kill Congressman Ryan. At the time it sure seemed that way to me, that that's what he was trying to do. I was in the middle of it. But as I look back and with some reflection I said to myself, he never tried to kill him. He could've stuck that knife in his back, five or six times or more, before we could have done anything. We're not trained Secret Service Agents. And even they, as we have seen are not a lot effective on these matters. Unfortunately, he certainly could have stuck the knife in his heart several times from the front before we could have responded. But he didn't. He held them, told them what he was going to do and didn't do anything except tell them. I thought Oh my God, it seems to me now that if this guy is a friend of Jim Jones cause I don't know I didn't know that it turns out he was his friend for years. Charles Gary had represented him in a workman's compensation case some years before, he was a very close friend of Jim Jones a truck driver, a very strong man. I knew he was strong I didn't know the rest. That point I thought if he was a friend of Jim Jones, then maybe Jim told him to kill the Congressman. It's not easy to kill someone, if you're not a killer. Congressman was a very warm, friendly person. Very affable, never did a single thing. Other than what was of a provocative nature, other than to be there and to conduct a responsible investigation. But he was warm and friendly and talking to people. And it was probably very hard to stick a knife in his back or his chest. I thought, what probably happened is a Joan said to him, \"Kill him.\" And he couldn't say no to his leader. On the other hand, he couldn't do it. So he made believe he tried to follow out the orders but didn't really try to kill. And I thought that's probably what happened. I thought, Oh my God, if that's what happened. If Jones has reached the point where he ordered the Congressman to be killed, this is probably beyond any, the moment where we can, retrieve anything now, which point Jones called Charles Gary, me together called a meeting of everybody. And they're all going to the big pavilion, took us to a little pavilion across this little road from it. And he said, after he started by saying, as I look back on it now I think he-, of course he had already decided that everyone was to die there. And I think he want to know whether Charles Gary and I were going to speak out against the proposal. And I think that's what he was doing. I don't know that but he said, \"Charles Mark, everything's terrible.\" He handed us a ticking bomb. He said, \"Everything is terrible.\" The Congressman is going to go back and he's gonna say, I ordered that assault on him. That's what he's gonna say. And then they'll come in here and destroy us. And I didn't, I'm innocent, but that's what they believe. I said, \"No, they won't look.\" I walk with a Congressman to the truck. I put him in the cab of the truck. He embraced me. And he said, \"You saved my life, Mark.\" Whenever you get to the West Coast, let me know in advance. I wanna have dinner with you, I'm with Charles too. And I said, \"Okay, what's your report gonna be?\" I'd like to tell Jones. He's so upset. He said, \"Yeah, you can tell him that in every city in America, they're murders and attempted murders and I don't hold that against this community.\" That one nut try to do something here because he was upset. He said \"It will be in my report but it will not be a major portion of report.\" And I don't even think there'll be a congressional investigation because I've seen some positive things and some negative things. I gave that well, that information Jones, had Ryan not told me that and how I've been, quick-witted enough to thought of it. I would have made it up anyway but it wasn't necessarily because Ryan told me that. And so that diffused that first ticking bomb then the next one was, he said, \"Well, listen every man who left here today left here to destroy our enemies, not because they wanted to leave here but because they love me to destroy our enemies.\" And I said, \"No, no, no, listen, I talked to Jerry Parks and Dale Parks, they just couldn't take it anymore.\" \"Life was too rough and they're not gonna say an unkind thing about you, Jim.\" But they're not gonna kill anybody for you. They're not gonna destroy anybody. They just wanna build a new life in California diffuse that one. And then he said, \"Larry Layton he's the man now charged with murder in Georgetown. He said, \"Larry Layton, when he embraced me it was a cold embrace and I knew then he was out to destroy the enemy.\" I said, \"Jim, you're a rational person\", which was perhaps overstating the matter at that time. I said, \"You can't operate on the mystic feeling of a cold embrace, can't take action based on that.\" He said, \"All right, I'll tell you this Charles Mark, those people are going to shoot down, shoot up the plane and I'll be blamed for it.\" \"I have proof.\" Well, I couldn't do anything with that one. He had proof, had sent them out. No doubt. To do it, I couldn't tell him it wasn't going to happen cause by then I believe he had ordered them to do that. And they were on their way. And as he was telling us that, they would dine at the airstrip just about that moment. And he knew that. At that point, Maria Casarez came up and whispered to Jim Jones. They had a little conversation. He came back and he said, \"You two,\" pointed Charles and myself. \"The people are very angry with you here,\" which was not true that so far as I could see, he tended to confuse as dictators often do to confuse himself with the people he was angry. And I understood why. And he said, \"Go to the East House and stay there.\" And Jim Mcllvaine said, \"I'll take them there.\" People have asked me since then if Jim Mcllvaine was armed at the time, I don't know. It would not have made a great deal of difference. He was six feet, nine inches tall and weighed 290 pounds. It was not just like a football player, professional football player. It was like a big professional football player. And he took us to the East House, the furthest most house to the east of the pavilion, maybe three or 400 yards away. And we were placed in the house and told to stay there at which point, Donald Sly, the man who had attempted, was involved in that assault on the Congressman, came down and sat outside of the house to guard us. The choice of the guard was not terribly re-assuring to me at that point. And then we heard Jim Jones start to broadcast. And when he spoke into the microphone, we could hear him. We could not hear anybody else because he had the microphone were perhaps 400 yards away. And he began to talk about the dignity of death and we almost died. I was listening very closely to what he was saying. Sometimes I guess he turned away from the microphone. I could have just phrases and words, bits and pieces and couldn't hear the whole sentence but I heard that much, talk of death. And then I heard him say, \"Oh no let's not argue among ourselves, oh no, let's not protest, let's not argue among ourselves.\" Obviously people were protesting is Stanley Clayton and Odell Rose later testified. And I heard his response to that. No stop that there's no need for that. No argument among ourselves. And they was silence. And then, a group of about eight or 10 men, young men came charging down from the pavilion, across the little bridge which over a little stream, running straight to toward the East House, where Charles Gary and I were being guarded by Mr. Sly. And there were shouting. \"Let's get them, let's bring them up.\" And I turned to Charles and said, \"This looks very bad\" That was my instant analysis at that time. And I began to think of what I was going to say up there. I thought we'd be going to be brought up to the meeting charged with bringing the congressmen in or the news media or some such thing. And I wanted to dress myself to the concept of mass suicide. And I just tried it. I thought I would not have a long time to make a speech but I bet I'd try to figure out two or three phrases. And I was thinking of that when they ran right up to the house and then right past it. And there was a little shack beyond the house. I didn't even know it was there before that day. And with them was weapons. They were talking about. Everyone, people in Jones town were very modestly dressed all the time. Although it was a tropical area I even played basketball, the first day I was there with the team. No one ever took his shirt off. No man that I ever saw, they kept their shirt on all the time. And now all the men was stripped to the waist wearing jungle fatigues and boots and nothing above their waist and all the rules had changed obviously, something very dramatic was taking place. Then these men ran over and I remember one man very clearly. He took one semi-automatic weapon with a sling put over one shoulder, another one over the other shoulder and held the third one up and ran up the hill. He had three, all those had three, four, five two men carried a heavy ammunition crate up the hill. And as they passed they said to Sly, \"Come with us Sly\" And he started to go up with them. And I said to Charles, \"Let's get out of here, as soon as they get on that bridge, let's get out of here.\" At that pint two men came running down the hill, Puncho and Johnson. But the only names I knew them as Puncho had had been very much concerned about my lecture about the murder of Dr. King back in September. He talked with me with it, about it until the early hours of the morning, back in September. And I'd sent him copies of the book I'd written with Dick Gregory called Code named Zora about the murder of Dr. King. And he'd read that book in the interim. And the night before Friday night had been the master of ceremonies, just a marvelously talented young man who sang and who acted and was marvelous master ceremonies at that performance. He came running down. Now he's carrying his semi-automatic weapon with his friend Johnson. And they were pointed out our house, East House where we were staying at that moment. And he said, \"All right, Charles, Mark, come on out.\" And Charles Gary turned to me and said, \"I'm not going out.\" And I said, \"These walls are very thin wood, Charles.\" They will provide no protection. We're lawyers. The only skill we're supposed to have is the ability to talk. Let's go out and talk to these guys. And he said, \"I'm not going.\" I went out, I said \"Hello Puncho.\" And he said \"Hello Mark.\" And he said, \"We're all going to die.\" And he pointed his weapon at me. Well, he didn't point it like this, but he pointed it at me. You might say casually, although that's not the word, I would have chosen at the time. And he said, we're all going to die. This great dignity and death. This is the way we struggle against fascism. And I had prepared my little speech. I thought it was gonna be for larger audience. And that was just two, but it might have been my last one. So I thought I'd do the best I could. And I said, \"Suicide is not a struggle. It's not even the absence of struggle. It is a denial of struggle and killing little children is fascism.\" And he didn't respond. It was as if I had not said anything, he paused, he was polite. And then he waited till I finished. Then he started again, was it as if I had not said anything, he didn't respond. I mean, he had a commitment. He knew what was going to happen. He committed himself to it I guess. And he said, \"We're all going to die, Mark. We are, it's beautiful. We're all going to die together. We are all going to die.\" He kept on saying, 'We' I was wondering what was encompassed in his mind in that pronoun, We. Me and Charles, should I say, we're not even members. I didn't know how to approach it. I didn't wanna ask him directly if he meant to us because I thought his answer, might be terribly disappointing. And so I said, \"Well, Puncho, at least you will know that Charles and I we will tell the story of what happened here.\" And he looked up then for the first time as if I had said something, which was a new thought to him. He said, \"Yes, that's what you did about Dr. King.\" \"I read the book.\" And he walked up to me and put his arms around me and hugged me and said, \"Goodbye, tell the truth.\" And then Johnson came down the hill and he hugged me and said goodbye as well. Then they hug Charles and said goodbye to him and started to leave. When they went up a little bit up the hill I said, \"Oh, Puncho and he spun around with his, weapon pointed at us. And I thought Charles was gonna kill me at that point. And he said, \"Yes.\" And I said, \"How do we get out of here?\" And he said, \"When it's all over call in a plane.\" And I said, \"I don't have a plane, you don't have a telephone and I don't know how that radio works, how do I walk out right now?\" Well, that was, that confronted him with a bit of a test. I didn't think of it most terms, that's the last thing I wanted to do. But as I look back on it now, he knew that I knew where the pavilion was. I mean, you could be in Jones town for five minutes and you know, where the pavilion is. It's the center of everything. And the road from Jones town to Port Kaituma is right down there from the pavilion. No way to miss it. So I could have gone that way. But if he had been ordered to kill us of course we could not show up with Jim Jones was. And so I guess it was a test for him. And he said, no, go that way, pointed exactly the opposite direction, said, if you go that way eventually you'll hit the road to Port Kaituma. At that point he held the weapon up in the air and said Jim Jones is the greatest man who ever lived. And Charles Gary made his first comment then he said, 'Right on.\" and they left. And I said to Charles, let's go. And we started, I took this little case that I had and Charles picked up this big, old fashioned Laura's brief. His Charles is just 70 years old now. And as this old, he must've had this briefcase from the day he was admitted to practice. It's a gigantic old fashioned briefcase, very heavy. And he picked it up and started to go. It was very rough to write. It was not the bush. It was an open area, but very, very rough. And of course there was snakes that they, we knew that but there was a ravine we had to go into. And there was a little stream at the bottom of the ravine. We were told there were Parana in the stream. Didn't mean a thing we just plunge right in and ran right up to the other side. And there were vines all over the place. And Charles began to trip and I helped him up. And he said, he's exhausted, he needed a rest. And we stopped for a moment. And we heard Joan say Jim Jones called his wife, Marcy mother. And she was the strongest opponent of any talk about suicide. She thought it was all crazy. And she said that every time Jones talked about suicide if she was around, she said, that's crazy. We're never gonna do that. Don't even talk about that. And no doubt she was then speaking out as clearly and as loudly as she could without the benefit of the microphone. And then he said, we heard him broadcast very loud. Mother, mother, mother, mother, mother, mother, drowning her out, no doubt. And then I heard 80 to 90 rounds of automatic. What some of you automatic rifle fire. I said to Charles, \"Let's get up. We got to get over that peak of that hill.\" When we passed, get down over the crest we will not be able to be seen from there. And he said, \"I have to have a longer rest.\" And I said, \"Look Charles I'm 20 years younger than you are. I play basketball, I swim all the time.\" \"I will use all of my energy for both of us.\" \"I swear, we'll never leave you behind, but let's do everything we can to get to the crest of that hill.\" \"That's the first point we have to reach now.\" And he said, \"Okay.\" and I, and he picked up the briefcase and I said, \"I'll take that for you.\" I just had a light pack over my shoulder. And it was remarkably heavy. I couldn't believe it. I said, \"Let's throw the damn thing out.\" He said, \"No, I need it.\" I said, \"Okay.\" I picked it up and we went up the hill. It was very rough terrain. We finally got to the crest and then took a break at the side of the bush, right near the bush. I put down the briefcase, I dropped it and it popped open. And I looked in it and it was a very large hairdryer. I said, \"Charles we are carrying a hairdryer through the jungle.\" He said, \"It's a very good hairdryer.\" I said, \"When we get it back to the United States, if we get back to the United States, I will buy you a new one.\" He said, \"No, I'm gonna keep that one.\" And then I said, \"Can I see what else you have in here?\" He said, \"Sure.\" Big thick files. And I said, \"What are they?\" That was the rest of the way. Just about, he said, \"Those are people's temple files. I'm a lawyer for peoples temple. And I need them, I'm not throwing those out either.\" And I said, \"Well, listen Charles it's true that you have not been fired as the attorney by People's Temple.\" \"But they sent the firing squad to our cabin and I think you're relieved of all responsibility.\" And he said, \"Nope, I'm going to keep that with me.\" We carry that with us the next 24 hours through the jungle. As a matter of fact, I should tell you a little bit, I don't think Charles would mind, maybe you would. I explained the hairdryer. You probably have seen pictures of Charles Gary. It looks like he has hair like everybody else who has hair. He has hair in a different way. From the way most people have hair. He's totally completely bald except here. And this hair from the side, the fringes goes down about three feet. And if this, if you think it was not bizarre enough to be running through the Bush or narrowly, but with Charles but this hair oil coming down and screaming over his back and totally bald. And what he does with the hairdryer is he, he wraps his hair around, sprays with lack of the, sprays it with the then puts the hairdryer on, so that it looks like it just grows normally. And he carries that hairdryer everywhere. I found out to my astonishment and dismay that day in the jungle. When we went down, we, and at that point I said, \"is this really the way you think to the road?\" He said, \"Yes.\" He said, look at that giant tree. And it was one huge tree, literally almost on the horizon. And he said \"I remember we passed that tree, was on our right side when we came up to Jones town road from Port Kaituma.\" And he was right. We made for the tree and he was right about that. Absolutely right. And we walked up and there was the road. And I said, \"Let's not walk on the road, those many acts might still be around here.\" \"Let's stay here.\" So we stayed with the road trial left between us and the road with the cassava trees maybe 25 yards of them providing some light cover and to our right, the impenetrable jungle this bush it's the last unexplored jungle in the world goes to the Brazil, Venezuela, Guyana. And we, I knew that it a boundary with all kinds of things that I would not like to meet. There was, there are Jaguars living in there. In fact, just a few miles away, a Guyanese went hunting from Port Kaituma, with three dogs and was treated by a jaguar who ripped his arm off at the elbow. And then he had dogs with him. That was just a few more I didn't know that that night, fortunately but there are also ocelot there and boa constrictors, scorpions, tarantulas and bats Bats would fly in flocks of 20, sometimes 100. And they had a special attribute which I've found very disconcerting. They hearing about, they had, they secreted an anticoagulant in their saliva. So when they bit you, you just kept right on bleeding. So none of it, none of it seemed very hospitable. But compared with what was outside of the jungle, the people with the weapons, the jungle appeared somewhat hospitable. But in any event, we were on the side near the bush. And at that point it was getting dark just about dusk. And we saw three men on the other side of the road, dressed in fatigues. One of them had the Footlocker on his back. And I said to Charles, \"Let's go hid\" We and I ran panicked, ran into the jungle right under the bush to escape them. And we zigzagged as we ran in there. So they could not follow us too easily. And we heard footsteps following us. You always hear footsteps there because it's a rainforest. It's always raining, raining, no place else in the whole world is raining there because the leaves are always wet and they drip. And as you hear them dripping, it sounds like footsteps coming towards you or going away from you. We never did hear any footsteps going away from us but we heard many footsteps coming toward us during the night. And we heard these steps. We heard something and there was obviously something was moving. There was probably some animal. We heard twigs being broken, something moving toward us. And we saw flashlight moving in from the road area toward us and getting closer and closer. And we hid behind a fallen log and I felt something itching. My hand began to itch. In the morning we saw a giant red ants which had bitten us all of our arms and legs, but that also didn't seem like much of a problem at that point. But we're hiding behind this log and the flashlight came close. And when it got very close we saw that it was a giant Firefly. We spent the night there because there was no way to move at night. It was dark. You've heard it being of it being so dark. You cannot see your hand. It was literally that dark. We could see absolutely nothing. Even at noon, it's not very bright in there. There's a triple canopy. The jungle trees go up 150 feet. But during the nighttime, it was very, very dark. And Charles said, \"Mark, why do you think there was a conspiracy to kill Martin Luther King?\" I said \"Charles I don't wanna talk about that.\" He said, \"I thought you talk about that.\" I said, \"I wanna talk about how we're gonna get out of here in the morning.\" How deeper? He said, \"I know the way it's right over there.\" I said, are you pointed? He said, yes. I said, let me say, Oh, cause we could not see anything. And I felt this. I said, I think it's the other direction, I said but that's the whole problem. I mean, we're lost. It's the last unexplored jungle, the world. We've never been in the bush at night. People know the area who get in here at night, get lost. Can't find their way out in the daytime. We have to consider some scientific method of getting out of here. He said, \"Well, we can follow the sun.\" I said, \"We don't even know if we want to go North, East South or West. You know where the road is from here? What direction? Anyway, we won't see the sun. So Denson here. We'll just see when it's at noon. I said, I don't know. I said you remember anything about Moss on trees? You ever boy scout Boyscout give, hear about that, Charles? I said, but that only helps if we know what that means and what direction we wanna go in. I don't even know either of those two things. He said, \"Mark, I have an excellent sense of direction.\" I said, \"You really do.\" And I was boyd by that. I was beginning the panic, thinking that we would never get out of it. He said, yes, I have never been lost once in San Francisco. Well, I was encouraged by that. He said, \"However, in Los Angeles, I get lost all the time.\" I was not encouraged anymore. He said, \"Anyway Mark, I've been in a forest before.\" I said, this is not a forest. This is the last unexplored bush in the world. And then I, I kept on thinking that there must be some scientific something we do. And then I remembered about the shorts that I had purchased. I had three pair of shorts from the laundry and Jones town. I wasn't proposing to go back and get them. But the other three were in a plastic case, never been opened. And about a year before at the John Kennedy Airport in New York city, when I was changing planes and had a lot of extra time, I went to one of those Hartford stores, which sells position knives and various things like that, scissors. And there was a very good salesman there. And he said, \"I have just the thing that you need.\" I said, \"What do I need?\" He said, \"This precision folding scissors and a little leather case.\" I said, 'What do I need that for?\" He said \"To trim your mustache you'll find it really will come in handy.\" Well, I bought it and I never used it once. It was there in my toilet kit, I had it for a year. I never used used it one time. But then I said, \"Listen Charles, I got these three pair of white shorts and I have a scissors.\" We can cut up into 100 strips. We'll go the direction that you say is the right way to go. We're about 175, 150 yards from the road. We'll go in the direction you say and we'll mark every couple of feet with a cotton strip. If that's not the right way, we'll follow the strips back, pick them up and find our way back here. If this is the base camp, it's is the hub and we keep on striking out in different directions, spokes from the hub. Eventually we'll hit the road as long as we can always get back here. I said that's the problem of being lost. You go some direction that you don't know where you are but if we can always find our way back here. I said eight or 10 days, you know we can live that long. Probably food, he said \"Eight or 10 days?\" I said, \"yeah, there is all the water that we need, that's no problem. Gigantic philodendron leaves we can catch all the water that falls and that was raining a good part of the time. I said, we don't need food for eight or 10 days if nothing gets us, we'll find our way out of here. He said eight or 10 days, look, Mark. I'm going to be on that one O'clock flight from Georgetown. I got commitments back in San Francisco. He was, he was never realized he never dealt with the problems at that time, not during the whole night. And at six o'clock in the morning at first light I began to cut up these little strips and he said, I know the way, don't waste our time doing that. I wanna to be on that plane. And he took off and I said, wait, but he went ahead and I tried to put these strips behind but it had gone very quickly. And I finally caught him and the direction he was going was not the direction of the road. We'd gone a couple of 100 yards and we were lost. It was exactly 7:45. I know that because at that time I heard people running through the bush screaming and I heard 15 to 20 more rounds of rifle fire semi-automatic or automatic. And we were lost and could not find our way back to our little hub, our base camp because we had not put down enough white strips. It took us several hours finally find one strip and then another and we finally found our way back there. I said, all right, now, Charles, humor me this time. We cut up all the shorts and every three or four feet I put a little piece of cotton so that if you look down you can see seven in a row, at least seven in a row. We weren't gonna get lost from that base camp. And we use that method. Within a few hours, method worked within a few hours we found our way to the road. And when we got to the road, I said, look, here it is. But you know, we don't know who's at that outpost down at the end of the road, we have no idea who was there. And he said, I don't care. I'm just gonna walk down that road and get out of here. I said, Charles, after all we'd gone through, now, it would be a terrible tragedy to get shot down by some maniac at the guard house down there. He said, well, what do you suggest? I said, I suggest that we go right back into the bush just five feet from the road where we will always see the road and spend the night there. I said, you know, we're a 1,000 Americans up here. Some of them are running around in the bush. The United States Government is gonna turn that muddy little dirt road into a military installation highway by tomorrow morning when the word gets out. Then we heard a helicopter and we saw the helicopter and we heard and saw a fixed-wing plane. And then another helicopter circling over the Jones town area. And I said, they've discovered it. They know that a lot of people died and a lot of people are running around the good jungle. And if they're not in here yet, it's because they're afraid there're maniacs with guns very likely. They're gonna have to move slowly, but let's wait. And he said, well, let's get closer to the guard house. And we got close to the guard house but stayed in the jungle. And then at one point he said, I've had it. And he ran out right to the post and he picked up a stick which was holding up a banana tree. He flung open the door with a stick raised and there was nobody there, no person there, the two little piglets rooting around. And I walked up to him and said, Charles that was the bravest thing I've ever seen done. And he said, you mean the most stupid? Well, his judgment may not have been too good but he certainly was psychic because that's what I was thinking. And then we left, but he was right because the United States government never sent anyone to look for the people in the jungle. No one ever sent the helicopter, the radio, broadcasting, nothing. And even now with the incomplete list that appears that over a 100 people died who were not accounted for it, disappeared. And I have no doubt that many of them died in that bush because they were not as fortunate as Charles and I were. First of all, we were only 150 to 175 yards from that road and we knew that. Secondly, we had scissors and things to make markers out of and we were adults. There are a lot of little children around who are missing. I know had escaped the masker and ran into the perimeter had no idea where the road was. They had left home because they thought their country their government did not care enough about them. Because they sensed the Callison about them. Because they sensed a Callison difference toward them because they were poor and because they were black. And if anything, the government of the United States in their last minutes, the last minutes of Jones town underscore the accuracy of their belief. Just imagine if at about that same time the Vietnamese announced that they had discovered the body of a Lieutenant Colonel POW and wanted to return him. What would have happened, Kissinger and Vance flying over there with Air Force One, a mahogany and brass coffin bringing back the body to Andrews Air Force Base where members of Congress and the president and the United States Air Force Band and the Marine Corps Band would participate in a ceremony. But how bad for some live Americans who are slowly dying in the jungle, nothing 15 years ago after John Kennedy was assassinated, I traveled around this country raising questions in college campuses raising questions about it. The same kind of false campaign of falsification appeared in the news media then is appearing now. it's a little bit more variable now than it was at that time, not much more. And I never could understand it. However every television program I went on to discuss the problem, local TV program. How much money you're making, doing this? Well, the answer was really not much in fact almost nothing but nevertheless, that question came up, \"Aren't you profiteering from the death of John Kennedy?\" Question came up everywhere. It was not until a couple of years ago when under the Freedom of Information Act I was able to secure a CIA files that I discovered that CIA files, a program was established by the Central Intelligence Agency to discredit me and to destroy my reputation similar to the intelligence organizations against Dr. King to destroy him about which the Church Committee has published documents now. It said, CIA said, this is to be sent to every station chief of the Central Intelligence Agency in every country throughout the world. We are to utilize our assets in the news media in the United States and other countries to destroy the reputation of Mark Lane. Point number one, always ask him how much money he's making, see if he's financially interested, call him a death profiteer et cetera. That was in 1966 and that's when the campaign began and it's still moving forward to the present time. The government of United States I believe will do almost anything to keep the American people from securing the facts of what happened regarding the death of President Kennedy, Dr. King and now this disaster, this tragedy IN Jones town. But now the Congress of the United States, I mean all the stories that you have no doubt read in Esquire, the New York times and elsewhere heard about. Even in the local newspaper, your own school newspaper today, talking about how much money I'm being paid. Was it said anywhere in there that in 1975 I formed the Citizens' Commission of Inquiry to encourage the Congress to look into the Kennedy assassination and then the Kennedy and King assassination. And then I lectured all over America in 1975 and 1976. And then I did make $80,000 lecturing on the college campus. And that I gave every penny to the Citizens Commission of Inquiry so that investigation could take place so that a million letters and telegrams could flow into Washington. So we could hire people to brief members of Congress and congressional aides. And that was 90% of my income during that period of time. Has that been reported anywhere in your local school newspaper or an Esquire magazine or the New York times? New York times ran a full story about me but before doing so, John Crewdson who wrote it, who was one of the hitman for the intelligence organizations at the New York times, met me in San Francisco at the Empress of China restaurant with a man named Bill Carlson another New York times reporter and asked me question after question after question and there was another person present. And I answered every question then he said I have a few more. Would you go with me to the Holiday Inn in Chinatown where were so tell was and we went there and talked for a couple more hours. And I ended up saying, is there anything else, any other question you have? And he said, no, you've answered every question, I'm satisfied. That I said, well, here's my hotel in San Francisco. I'll be here for a couple of more days. The Wharf Hotel I gave him the number. Went back to the hotel. The next morning he called my law partner. Said, how would Mark Lane respond to this question about the fact that it's a disbarment proceeding? Which is what the old school newspaper ran today, which is untrue, an invention a figment of imagination of the New York times and the Washington post. How would he respond to that? How we respond to this and that? And she said, well, look, why don't you call them? She had known that I spent hours with him the night before. Why don't you call him? Why don't you ask him? He said, no, I don't want to bother him. She said, well, all things absurd. The next day, the New York times ran in a very prominent position. An article by John Crewdson with all of the false charges against me with the statement, \"Mr. Lane was unavailable for comment\" after five hours of talking with him and answering every question the night before. his statement was Mr. Lane was unavailable for comment. However, his law partner said, all she could say is that the charges seemed to her to be absurd. That's the New York Times high standard of journalism. When Terry Buford defected from the People's Temple was staying with my family. She's a young attractive woman and a dear friend of mine now. This is how the New York times reports and Esquire reports it. Carrie Buford is now living with Mark Lane in Memphis. Yes and with the other members of my family as well. When she was living with my family in Memphis I was invited to appear on a French Network Television Program to discuss cults. And I went there and on that program was the editor of the Washington Post two of the journalists from the San Francisco Chronicle two members of parliament from France. And I did that program and flew back to America. David Binder of the New York Times, called my home in Memphis and talked to Terry Buford and said where is Mark Lane now? And she said, well, he's undeveloped. He's on a plane flying from Paris to New York. The New York Times ran a feature story the next day saying that at this point Terry Buford and Mark Lane are in Zurich, Switzerland according to the United States Department of Justice he had just talked to Terry Buford, 901 is not the area code for Zurich, Switzerland. It is for Memphis, Tennessee And Mr. Binder knew that. According to Robert Harval of the Department of Justice said Mr. Binder, Mr. Lane, and Miss. Buford are in Zurich, Switzerland and they'd have discovered the Department of Justice States that after Mark lane and Terry Buford were reportedly seen there. The $8 million was reportedly missing from the typical people's temple bank account in Zurich. And that was the day before Terry Buford was to go to San Francisco, to testify before the Grand Jury. And they knew she was terrified about going back to that city for fears of the people's temple people might kill her. Now, in addition to everything else that was said that we had stolen the money from People's Temple. The Department of Justice knew because Terry Buford had given them all the documents three weeks before that there was no money in Switzerland that all the people's temple money was in a Swiss bank in Panama. And so wow! the money was in Panama, I was in Paris and Terry was in Memphis and the New York Times knew all of that. They reported that all three of us were together Terry and me and the money in Zurich a front page story of which they knew every word was a lie. And when I talked to Mr Binder the next day and of course the story was Mr. Lane was unavailable for comment. Well, that was true, I was on a plane at the only time he called but I found out about it as soon as the story is written and said, everything is a lie. He said, \"Well, I'm sorry if we've done you any inconvenience.\" I said, \"Well, all lies in the New York Times, do everybody inconvenience?\" He said, \"Well, I'll print the other side of it.\" I said, \" I don't want the other side of it.\" I want you to call French TV, talk to the French government. They picked me up at the airport. They took me to the hotel. They took me to the television station. They brought me back. I said, while you were reporting that I was in Zurich I was talking to about 150 American reporters, would call and huddle the press conference in Paris. Now that's something you can check with the French government. And I said, and while you and CBS were both reporting that Terry Buford was in Zurich, Michael Wohead a CBS television on-camera interviewer, CBS to fill it in Memphis was talking to Terry. He's a friend of ours was at my home talking with Terry. I said, \"I don't want you to run this story Mark Lane denies here's, all the information, check it out with everybody so you can report the truth.\" And I hear all the documents I said to show you that the money in fact was in Panama. So every aspect of the story was untrue. Now I don't wanna Mark Lane deny story. And then we repeat the charge. Just say, I said, it's not true. He said, no, it'll be a very competent story. They ran the story the next day. Department of Justice said Mark Lane was there. Terry Buford, et cetera, et cetera. However, Mark Lane denied it. That's what the New York Times calls presenting. That's what they call all the news that's fit to print, the New York Times, or Walter Cronkite says that's the way it was. And it almost never is The best part of the problem. I could tell you 100 stories about misinformation. Steven Brill reporter asked me about it tonight. Steven Brill report of Esquire said isn't it true that you told Steven Qataris that you were reported for Esquire when you interviewed him? I just left Steven Qataris. Sorry front page headline story saying, Hey, California psychiatrist, Steven Qataris said that Mark Lane said he came from Esquire magazine. Therefore lane should be disbarred for not saying he was a lawyer involved in the case. I talked to Steven Qataris I have a statement from him. He said, you never said that Brill lied. Kreutz in New York Times lied. I never said that you said that. And I said, well, I know that because I had tape recorded my conversation with Blister Qataris . Put the tape down I said, can I do this? He said, sure. And he said, which Mark Lane are you? It's all on the tape and he concedes this. I said, I don't know how many there are I'm an author and a lawyer. He said, you wrote rush to judgment. I said, yes. He said, well, I read it a long time ago. When it came out in 1966, I can tell you 1,000 stories about press misinformation, disinformation but I'll tell you what the bottom line will be on this. I will be bringing in the near future a multi-million dollar law action against the Central Intelligence Agency the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Esquire magazine, CBS New York Times and the rest of the assorted organizations which will publish intelligence committee handouts. I'm gonna do that because there is no way the American people can get the facts about any of the events which affect our lives. The Kennedy assassination the King assassination, the war in Vietnam The massacre Jones town, as long as the news media is not free. As long as in these sensitive areas it is totally responsive to the intelligence organizations. I just recommend, very strongly that you get a chance to look at, maybe it's in the library here if not try to find it rolling stone, October 20th, 1977. Make a note of that if you would. It's a piece by Carl Bernstein of Woodward and Bernstein about the grip in which the Central Intelligence Agency has grasped the American news media, 400 employees of the CIA working in American news media over the years. It's an agreement, a written agreement between alpha Hey Salzburg the New York Times and the Central Intelligence Agency about how the agencies do utilize the New York Times and CBS and the Washington post and the Los Angeles Times and the rest of them read it, Newsweek magazine, read it. It's October 20th, 1977. It will probably be the most frightening and chilling document you can read about the American news media but it's important to do that. It's important to have some understanding of how the news reaches you and what it goes through in order to reach you. But now we have that doesn't matter which is very much on the agenda for the American people. And so it was a story of Jones town. 15 years ago, I raised the question to all of this country, almost has a lone voice saying that there was evidence, hard forensic evidence to establish the fact that there had been a conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. The shots had come from two different directions. And one of the main voices for suppression as a matter of fact, was amended de Moines Iowa David Bellin who invented the fanciful magic bullet theory who I think remains the last person in America who believes the Warren commission report. But the Congress of the United States was finally persuaded to investigate, looked at all of the evidence. There was no new evidence, but looked at all the old evidence and concluded in a report which it has already announced in which it will report in detail about toward the end of this month. But its conclusions have already been published that there was a conspiracy to kill John F. Kennedy. That for 15 years your government has not told you the truth nor has your news media told you the truth about that conspiracy. But in all probability, the Congress said after it's two and a half year investigation that there was a conspiracy to kill Dr. King as well. But the FBI misled you and your news media misled you there. Events are moving very quickly now in the middle East and Iran and Africa and Asia we no longer have the luxury to be patient to wait 15 years to learn what happened in Jones town as we did in the Kennedy case or a decade as we did in the case of the murder of Dr. King. We must be impatient with our government now and with our news media now. We must become informed and we must insist. But now all of the facts be made known about this latest American tragedy. And that is a responsibility which no one person can carry. I don't mind the attacks I expect them. And I expect to be fully and richly really rewarded when we finally get before a jury because of the falsification of the record by the news media and the greatest reward will be seeing Mr. Crewdson and Mr. Brill and the rest of them testify. Because I tell you one thing when you get to court and your raise your hand you don't so easily make false statements as you do when you read a newspaper article and they're going to be great. There'll be a great moment for them when they have to decide which way they want to go when the evidence is presented about what they have done but this is not a job for one person, 900 of our sisters and brothers died a long way from home in search of a dream. And we, all of us have responsibility to find out why they died. Why the government of the United States sent Congressman Ryan into Jones town not knowing that he would die, but knowing that he might die and why they deceived him and getting that information is a responsibility that all of us share. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Thank you. Wayne we thank you we will wait. I think in view of the hour, a few minutes for those who wish to leave to leave those who wish to ask questions stay, the chair will open with one question while the people are going. The second in command, Tim Jones, was that the name? What was his fear about the loss of people that he so thoroughly sold to Joe?\r\n\r\n- You made the statement that if he had, if he had, it was he who had convinced Jim Jones that if one lot left, all was lost, what was his motivation?\r\n\r\n- Well, by then, Tim Stone had turned, had left people's temple and was, and was basically in charge of the campaign to destroy Jim Jones and people's temple, why he was doing that, I don't know but that's what he was doing without any question. He was one of the people who went to Congressman Ryan and urged Congressman Ryan to go to Jones town. He had to have been responsible newspaper articles attacking Jim Jones and people's temple and had developed great hostility toward Jones. And he was able through Tim Carter to convince Jones that if one person left, they would be destroyed. He was the adversary and predicting victory on his part if one person left. What his motivation is, I don't know but it's the central question I think and I can tell you this, that I did a television program with Terry Buford in Memphis, Tennessee and which I outlined the role of Timothy Stone and Terry Buford outlined it much more clearly because she had been his aide for seven years. And I ended up by saying where as law enforcement? This man was an Assistant District Attorney, where is law enforcement in this country? And I received a visit from the Deputy Attorney General of California, Timothy Riordan, who told me that based upon the statements that we had made and the questions we had raised and other information which they had secured, they had established a task force on Timothy Stone to deal with the very question you've asked, why did he do it? And what did he do? And Terry has given them all the information her possession about Stone, so have I, and it's an ongoing investigation. It's very, it's difficult to ever predict what the result of investigation will be before it's completed but my own feeling and meeting with Mr. Riordan, the Deputy Attorney General of California as he is conducting a serious and responsible and will conduct a thorough investigation. And I believe that the answer to your question will be forthcoming perhaps when the attorney general issues his report or some other action is taken in California by the Attorney General's office. Yeah, any other questions from the audience, yes.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, what I don't understand is that expecting the government, please add on the information provided by the hospital. And yet it was for insurance. Do you a couple of days before you traveled down there do you feel that anything would happen if you were there that Reverend John would take any action?\r\n\r\n- Yeah the question is, I guess you didn't hear it back there. Question is, why do I think that the government should have acted upon the information which they had secured when in fact, Terry Buford, who was source of information to me told me that she didn't think there would be any violent action against any of the guests and visitors. I'm not critical of the government for not taking action. I've met with members of the families members of families who have lost people in Jones town. And they're very emotional about this and very angry about it. And they are critical of the government for not taking action, but I am not critical of the government for not taking action because I can't think of anything that could have done. These were mostly adults, no unattached children so far as I can see adults who brought children with them, they voluntarily left the confines of the United States, content of the limits, went someplace else knowing something about People's Temple. They went there, they were living in a foreign country. And if everything the government heard about them 200 weapons, 300 weapons, beatings, all of that. If all of that were true, I don't think there's anything United States government could do. Legally, I don't think there's anything they could do. Guyana was a, is a socialist country, not unfriendly in terms of its relationship with us, not all that friendly either, we could have asked the government of Guyana to do something perhaps. Government of Guyana had its own concerns. They were very anxious to encourage people to move into the interior and to develop the interior of the country. Nobody was doing that except Jones town, except the Americans who had gone in. What could the United States government have done? Terry Buford told me that she believed that 90% of the people in Jones town that nobody was really happy there because the food was so bad and the hours were so long and conditions were so difficult, but the 90% of the people would have fought to the death in the effort by the United States government to make them come back. If they were invited back if they felt they were free to return and they went voluntarily, that would've been one thing. But if the Marines land and try to bring it back, she said that she'd fight. She thought they would fight. Well, what could the government do then? No one had been harmed. That is no one could predict that. Very likely everyone would die if the Congressman went there, if anything else happened no one could predict that. How can you expect the administration to look at a situation where they're getting reports? But there are no very serious problems there, to go in there and send a military operation there in which people would die. And certainly we would all have been very critical just suppose the mask would not taken place. And instead the Marines had landed, try to liberate some people, shots were fired and a lot of people were killed. They'd be moved to impeach the president, but that actress I'm not critical of the government, for not doing anything. I don't think there's anything they could have done other than to wait, just let nature take its course. They would've gone to the Soviet union, I believe. And if they'd gone to the Soviet union although that would have been very embarrassing for us they could have left the Soviet union to come to the United States if they want it to, there'll be no guns pointed at them. Americans can leave the Soviet union to come back home. Lee Harvey Oswald did it. State department paid his way, even after he renounced his American citizenship and the American embassy in Moscow the state department paid his way back. So I'm not critical of the government for taking, for not taking action. I'm critical of them for taking action. All they had to do was say to Congressman Ryan, there's a problem, don't go. I tell you, I was telling him not to go. It's true Terry told me, she thought in all probability nothing was going to happen but she wasn't sure, there was enough of a doubt for me to not wanna go. And if it was up to me as to whether that delegation was going to go or not go I assure you it would never have left the United States. And I made that position very well to be known. It was only her telling me that since the delegation was going that I might be useful in calming it down. If there was a problem that made me go. So I'm not critical of the government for not taking some kind of action I'm critical of them or precipitating the situation for and that knowing that Jim Jones was somewhat mad knowing there were many weapons there, were failing to tell Congressman Ryan the truth. And for sending him in there ill prepare it to meet the problems. Yeah, any other questions? Yes. Well, I've represented a lot of people who are, I'm a lawyer. I represent people charged with murder. I've represented people. I must confess who committed murders. We all do that, ll members of the bar, who would try criminal cases, represent all kinds of people, but that's part of the answer. But there's more than that. When I went in there in September I saw how nervous he was, how upset he was. And I was concerned about the other people that were there. And I was concerned about a program to destroy him. It just drove that operation. My only criticism now is that I didn't give up everything else to devote every second of you waking second of my life from the time I got out of Jones town to a freedom of information action. I didn't because of a number of reasons because they said they were gonna provide documents to me, which they never did provide. And there were reasons why I couldn't proceed. I had other commitments to James, et cetera, but I'm I'm only sorry that if I had known what was going to happen not only would I not have walked away from representing Jim Jones, I would have brought everybody I knew in the country, every lawyer I know into a massive action to the freedom of information act to get information, to reassure him. So he would not be brought to that point. I mean, it's easy to walk away from difficult situations but it's not always the proper thing to do. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- What was the motivation of the guards?\r\n\r\n- What was the motivation of the guards? I don't know. I've thought about that cause they were pointing those weapons. They may have thought about that since that time, they were committed. Now, I don't know. You see one of the problems about the failure of the government to, the United States government to pick up the bodies and conduct autopsies and make identifications at once, is that to this day we don't know who escaped and who didn't escape. More than 100 people who were there are not accounted for. Debbie Blakey said that there were two to 300 weapons in there, semi- automatic weapons, they found 40. Now either she was wrong in her estimate but I don't think she could have been that wrong in estimate or some people left with weapons. I saw three people walking out. I know three other people walked out and had some money and some guns. We heard about that cause they were picked up by the Guyanese police, what those, who those guards were why they were involved in that action. I don't know. If whether there was an intelligence presence in there? I don't know. One of the witnesses said that after, that he was hiding out in the bush, that after the shooting had died down after many had died there, he heard the guards cheering and organized hip Pipper cheer which went on and on. I don't know if that preceded them killing themselves which I'm inclined to doubt or proceeded their leaving, who they were and what they were doing. I don't know but that's certainly most important question. And that's one I'm anxious to get the answer to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah about the adoption the child, Jim Jones the child was never really adopted. Jim Jones said that he was the father of a child which took place as a result of a union between himself and Grace Stone. Grace Stone was the wife of Tim Stone who was the counsel for People's Temple. Tim Stone in an affidavit said that that was true. That he was happy that Jim Jones was the natural father of that child, that he had asked Jim Jones become the father. The problem with this is that while Tim Stone assured Jim Jones that he knew he was the father and therefore he would never try to take the child away from him. But in many States, including California the law is quite strict on the question if man and woman getting married and on the wedding night before the marriage is even consummated the husband goes off, surface a soldier, fortune somewhere and comes back 10 years later and finds that his wife now has eight children. He's the father of all eight children in most states. These are laws designed, in the interest of public policy to protect the sanctity of the family. If the wife has a child, the husband is the father whether he could possibly be the father or not he is the father and what Jim Jones I think did not know that and felt this was his child. He was the natural father. He was going to take the child with him. And Tim Stone said, it's perfectly, all right you are the father. Grace doesn't want the child. I want you to have the child. And he left the child behind in Jones town. Anyone who knew Jim Jones would know that, that that commitment, which Jones had to his own flesh and blood would be overriding over everything else. And that if any effort was made to take that child from him which is what Tim Stone then tried to do. Tim stone and Grace Stone said they were living together which was not true as husband and wife they had separated, and that they wanted their child back. And the courts in Guyana, following established English Common Law ordered Jim Jones to surrender the child. Is that clarified? Oh, Tim Stone's motivation for doing it. I think that it's possible that his motivation was to destroy Jim Jones and destroy Jones town. Okay just one more question. I'm still okay here. Well, are there any investigations going on? Yes there's several investigations. The Grand Jury, a federal Grand Jury is meeting now in San Francisco and has been for some months. And we'll continue on with this investigation. However, that Grand Jury cannot look into the role of Tim stone, which I think may be central. And the reason they cannot is that Tim stone is a good friend of the U.S Attorney of San Francisco. And he'd served with him in the District Attorney's Office the City District Attorney's Office with Mr. Hunter. And in fact, when Mr. Hunter was made U.S Attorney for San Francisco he offered Tim stone, the job of Chief Criminal Assistant. That's how close he is. So he's not permitted to look into the actions of Tim stone. In addition to that, there's an investigation by the San Francisco District Attorney Mr. Fritas, but Mr. Fritas had hired Tim stone to work for him. And so he is prescribed by law firm, from investigating the role of Tim stone. And it's sort of, I think like examining the role of the Nazis during world war II but never being able to mention Adolf Hitler's name. I think it becomes difficult to conduct these investigations without even making reference to Timothy Stone. However, the Attorney General of California is conducting investigation into the actions of Timothy Stone. So those are the three investigations which are ongoing in addition to the house international relations committee which is conducting an investigation and which is now in Guyana, I believe, and which we'll probably hold public hearing sometime in the near future. I don't have a great deal of faith in any of those investigations with the exception of I've a great deal of hope for the investigation by the Attorney General's office of California. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- It's been interesting to watch the faces. Mr. Lane held his crowd and what's left here two hours and a half, which is longer than a full length movie. And there were no real signs of boredom. We thank you Mr. Lane. We're adjourned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43871/file/116937#t=0.0,3785.35184"}]}]}]}